Interview with South Bend mayor Pete Buttigieg on his campaign for President in 2020; Interview with Rep. Liz Cheney on the shutdown negotiations and Syria troop withdrawal; Interview with Sen. Chris Murphy on the Virginia scandals and the Green New Deal;
Virginia in crisis, the top three officials all Democrats refused to resign. One calling for due process and denying to allegations of sexual assault. The embattled governor says he wants to atone for his past racist behavior. But will that be enough? We'll have the latest details on the campaign trail a growing democratic field floods zone in early primary states. I am. This. The way me with love voters looking for a fresh face the mayor in the midwest in his thirties democratic presidential candidate mayor Pete Buddha. Jets joins us live deadline looming. President Trump heading to Texas to rally support for his border wall walls, save lives. But with just days to stave off another shutdown lawmakers strike a deal, except we'll talk to Republican congresswoman Liz Cheney democratic Senator Chris Murphy in moments. Long Jake tapper in Washington where the state of our union is focused on twenty twenty Democrats are hitting the campaign trail across the country this weekend traveling too early primary and caucus states is two major contenders. Enter the race this weekend democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts officially launched. Her bid Saturday challenging the system she says rigged for the rich and calling President Trump a symptom of which wrong in America Senator Amy klobuchar from Minnesota is expected to announce his running later this afternoon twenties also clearly on President Trump's mine Saturday. He lashed out at Senator Warren on Twitter alluding to her past claims of native American status for which she has apologized. The president appeared to make a joking reference to the tragic trail of tears relocation and genocide of native Americans one unexpected issue. The twenty twenty candidates have been forced to confront on the trail that continued controversies rounding the top three officials in Virginia. All Democrats are now two women accusing Lieutenant governor Justin Fairfax of sexual assault and late Saturday. Both women announced they would be willing to testify in any impeachment hearings. Fairfax maintains the encounters were consensual and says he should be given due process. One twenty twenty candidate who has had to respond to all of this on the trail, the mayor of south bend, Indiana, Pete Buddha jet. She's a Rhodes scholar navy veteran who served in Afghanistan and who's running to make history as the youngest president ever elected and the first openly gay man to serve in that role. And he joins me now. Mayor judge welcome to state of the union. Thank you so much for being with us. Good morning. Thanks for having me. So I wanna start with what's going on in Virginia. You said you don't see how Lieutenant governor. Fairfax can continue to lead anymore after these two accusations one of sexual assault one of rape Fairfax's calling for an investigation. Adding, quote, I'm asking that no one rushed to judgment. And I'm asking for there to be space in this moment for due process. What is the standard for you to call for someone to step down is is the accused entitled to do process before? He's forced to resign. You're certainly entitled to do process in. Criminal investigation when it comes to the question of holding political office. I think it's really a matter of whether you can affect lead. And when you have somebody, especially at this very sensitive time for the office of Lieutenant governor when you have somebody facing multiple credible accusations. I just don't see how he can continue to serve. Meanwhile, governor rough north them is fending off his own calls to resign after he admitted to wearing black face in nineteen Eighty-four. He told the Washington Post yesterday that he wants to focus on racial inequality in areas such as housing and healthcare over the rest of his term is that good enough for you is is a is a gubernatorial term atonement and racial reconciliation good enough. Or or do you still think he should resign? Well, it doesn't seem to me that he has the confidence. That's required in him in order to continue to lead the state. Unfortunately, the way he handled those those allegations and revelations seems to have made things even worse. And I think that's why you see a pretty strong sense among leaders in Virginia. And by the way, this is of course, something for Virginians to figure out, but they seem to be pretty unified that they want a new governor and leadership that can carry that state forward. Let's talk about some issues. Several twenty twenty candidates or backing new resolution, which outlines what's called a green new deal. It was introduced by congresswoman Alexandria, Akasa Cortez in the house and Senator Ed Markey. In the Senate this plan calls for quote, removing pollution and greenhouse gas emissions from manufacturing and industry as much as Technic logically feasible with a ten year outline, obviously something like that would completely overhaul industries across the midwest, including an Indiana. Do you have any concerns about how the green deal might affect your? Constituents or your state. Well, like a lot of other things that have come along and impacted us in the industrial midwest trade comes to mind, we gotta make sure this time around that it's done in a way that benefits us the benefits workers more than it harms them. Look, there's always going to be changed and disruption as a town that grew up around the auto industry producing Studebaker until the nineteen sixties. We know firsthand what those disruptions can mean. But there's also tremendous opportunity here. Look, we're not only being disrupted by economic change. We're being disrupted by climate change. We have had multiple cases two different cases of floods historic floods here in south bend of the kind that we're told to expect every thousand years or so and they happened within eighteen months of each other. So this is a national emergency in the I think the elegance from a policy perspective of the concept of the green new deal is it matches a sense of urgency about that problem of climate change with a sense of opportunity around what the solutions might represent even. Right now. One of the biggest recent announcements in our county of added union jobs in the auto industry was facility making electric vehicles. I think green new deal would promote that. And so that could be good news for us here in the industrial midwest, do you endorse the Marquis Cossio Cortes, green new deal? Yes. I think it's the right beginning, look, it's a framework, obviously, the green new deal as we've seen it. So far is more of a plan than it is a fully articulated set of policies, but the idea that we need to race toward that goal. And that we should do it in a way that enhances the economic Justice and the level of economic opportunity in our country. I believe that's exactly the right direction to be going in. Everybody's going to have their going. Everybody's going to have their own twists or features. They're going to add as a mayor. I'd like to see it funding more things that would help our cities become sustainable, and there are other developments that are going to have to come along to establish exactly how we can meet those goals, but they are the right goals, especially if you come at this from. Generational perspective for me. The question of what the world is going to look like in twenty fifty four which is when I'm going to reach the current age of the current president. That's not a theoretical question. That's a personal question. And it's very clear that we can't go on like this. I mean, these weather extremes. We're experiencing now are what we were warned about to expect in these years in the seventies and eighties by science shudder to think about the fact that God willing I'll be alive to see the consequences in the twentieth. Fifties of the predictions that are being made right now you've said that young people don't see as much conflict between the concept of capitalism, and the concept of socialism as past generations have seen President Trump has been pretty clear that he's going to try to use the idea of socialism as a point of attack against Democrats. Take a listen to what he said at the state of the union address. Here in the United States. We are alarmed by the new calls to adopt socialism in our country tonight, we renew our resolve that America will never be a socialist country. Are you worried at all that that might be an effective attack against Democrats? I think he's clinging to rhetorical strategy. That was very powerful when he was coming of age fifty years ago, but it's just a little bit different right now. I know if you grew up during that Cold War period, then you saw a time in politics when the word socialism could be used to end argument today. I think a word like that is the beginning of the debate not the end of debate. Look America is committed to democracy, and we are essentially a market based economy, but you can't you can no longer simply kill off a line of discussion about a policy by saying that, it's socialists. If someone my age younger is weighing a policy idea and somebody comes along and says, you can't do that. Socialist. I think our answer is going to be okay. Is it a good idea? Or is it not? And that word is also lost its power, especially when you think about the way it was applied to characterize, for example, the a Nigeria that was immoral conservative before it will. Obamacare, invented by a conservative think-tank relying on market principles implemented, first by Republican governor. And they said that was socialist. So I think the word has mostly lost. It's meaning and certainly lost its ability to be used as a kill switch onto bait. Earlier on the show. You said that you'll be President Trump's age in twenty fifty four. You're thirty seven years old. You're the youngest candidate in the democratic field. If elected UB the youngest president ever, President Trump is the oldest president ever elected president. You've said it's time for a quote new generation in American leadership. Does that inherently mean that it's time for the older generations politicians over seventy their time has come and gone? They shouldn't run. Well, I think there's an opportunity for different generations to come together. It's one of the things I saw firsthand when I was in Iowa over the last couple of days talking to voters the only group that was more interested in generational change than the youngest voters. I met the voters who were about my parents age, and I think that shows that if you're from an older. Ration- you care about the world that you're leaving. If you're from my generation, you're thinking about the world that we're going to continue living into I do think that those of us who are from younger generation have a very personal very direct stake. And I think it's not an accident that the whole country right now in terms of our policy debate is responding to proposals put forward by a member of congress who's even younger than I am. All right, mayor Buddha. Jess, thanks so much for joining us today. We appreciate it. Thank you. 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I'm Jake tapper President Trump is heading to the border town of El Paso tomorrow. Trying to keep the focus on his border wall. Just days before the government is said to partially shut down again over wall funding on Capitol Hill. Lawmakers are trying to seem hopeful that they can come up with a deal that the president will agree to the latest Goshi center around about two billion dollars for border barriers. That is short of the five point seven billion dollars. President Trump said he wanted joining me now to discuss this much more the third ranking Republican in the house conference chair. Liz Cheney the congresswoman joins us from casper, Wyoming, congresswoman, good to see you. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me, Jake, great to be with you. So the federal government will partially shut down on Friday, if President Trump and congress cannot find a compromise on the president's border wall. Do you think Republicans in congress can convince President Trump to sign off on about two billion dollars for border barriers? Or are you more skeptical? Do you think we're headed for another shutdown? Well, I certainly hope we're not headed for another shutdown. I think the president's been clear and the Republicans in the house have certainly been clear that we absolutely got a secure the border. You know, I thought it was interesting when you watched the negotiations that have been going on between the are bipartisan and bi-cameral committee when the committee members had a chance to go visit the border when the committee members had a chance to to hear from border patrol agents themselves testimony, it really made a difference. I think and I think that there's there's bipartisan agreement we got to secure the border. I think there are some members of leadership on the democratic side in particular speaker Pelosi who really is out there on her own saying things like walls are immoral and she will only allow one dollar for a wall the American people want the border secure. So I'm hopeful that this committee will be able to come up with a proposal that we can all support that the president can sign, but it's going to have to include funding that will allow us to secure the border, and it'll have to include funding for some sort of a barrier. So but two billion dollars. Radically. You're not agreeing right now at anything, but two billion dollars for border barriers would would be a compromise for you that you would be willing to accept the radically. Well, you're not going to be surprised Jake. I'm not gonna go sheet about it this morning on your show. I think it's going to have to be sufficient funds through, you know, an agreement hopefully that we can reach that will enable us to know that moving forward will be able to to have a wall have a barrier on those parts of the border where it's really necessary. And you know, I think there's been a lot of of mistrust out there about this. You've seen the Democrats try to suggest that we wanna build a two thousand mile long wall. That's absolutely not the case. But what we're talking about is something that's very practical where it's necessary where it's needed where our border patrol agents say that it will help us control and stop that the flood of illegal immigrants across the border. We need to have a border wall. I wanna turn to foreign policy ticket. Listen to President Trump at the state of the union address. As a candidate for president. I loudly pledged a new approach. Great nations. Do not fight endless wars. It is time to give up. Brave warriors in Syria, a warm, welcome home. So President Trump said he's probably gonna make a formal announcement. This week announcing that the US led coalition now controls one hundred percent of ISIS territory in Syria. You're on the House Armed Services committee. Why not bring the troops home? Well, I think several things number one. We've we've done tremendous work both in Syria as well as an Afghanistan, but in Syria, the issues, not the territorial control in Syria. The issue is whether or not we're able to ensure that ISIS doesn't reconstitute and we've got about we've had about twenty two hundred special operations forces there. They've been doing crucially important work that you can only do from there providing air support providing artillery support helping to work with the local forces to really help ensure the defeat of ISIS, it's got to be an enduring defeat though. And so when you got a situation like we have now where you're you've seen the caliphate. As the president is saying there will be this. Now, isn't that the caliphate has been one hundred percent taken back? I hope that's right. But but you cannot be we can't be fooled into thinking. You know, if we just withdraw the troops. Now, we come home is is won't reconstitute that we've got to ensure that we do everything necessary to prevent them from forming safe havens, we know that there are. Significant numbers of ISIS fighters still in Syria today, and we we don't wanna have to go back. Again. I think that would come at much greater cost of lives and treasure. So this you an your philosophy at odds with President Trump you've defined victory in the Middle East as quote that we don't have another nine eleven adding quote that may require that were there for a long time. How do you respond to the president's criticism? Your approach essentially means having US servicemembers in Syria and Afghantistan indefinitely. I think first of all President Trump has had tremendous success across the board on a whole range of national security issues. He was absolutely right to withdraw from the Iran nuclear agreement absolutely right to withdraw to announce that we will withdraw from the IMF. He's had tremendous success in his Dengue's actually, the right thing in terms of resources for the Pentagon over the last two years. And so I support very much what he's done there. But I think that in the same way that we saw with President Obama. You do not end a war by withdrawing from the battlefield. And when President Obama did that, and he was ju- our forces from Iraq precipitously, you ended up with civil war in Syria. You ended up with the rise of ISIS you ended up with the caliphate. I don't wanna see us go down that path again. So I think it's very important for us to remember, the Taliban al-qaeda is embedded with the Taliban enough ghanistan, the Taliban will not live up to any negotiated deal. That we set with them the notion that were somehow going to have an ago, she ate a deal. With the Taliban that we can take their word that they won't allow al-qaeda to have safe havens, again is is in in my view irresponsible. We've got to ensure that our forces are there based on the conditions on the ground not based on frankly, what has been rand Paul's approach. Which is you know, what I've just decided? It's too long. We're gonna come home. You don't win wars that way. You don't keep the nation safe that way, I wanted to take a look at something. The president tweeted last night he wrote quote today, Elizabeth Warren sometimes referred to by me Pocahontas joined the race for president. Will she run as our first native American presidential candidate or has decided that after thirty two years this is not playing so well anymore. So you on the campaign trail, Liz that were trail in all camps apparent reference to the tragedy the trail of tears just a few weeks ago. The president also made a reference to wounded knee and joking manner when talking about Elizabeth Warren you represent thousands of native Americans in Wyoming. Do you have concerns about the president joking about these horrific tragedies? I have concerns about somebody like Elizabeth Warren Warren pretending to be native American. You know, you're absolutely right. I do represent, you know, thousands of data Americans here in Wyoming, and the notion that that anybody of any political party would pretend that they were a member of tribe or pretend that they would have American and would do it as she seems to have done it in order to get benefits that is in my view the disgrace. And so I, you know, she's made herself laughing stock. You know, you I wonder whether or not anybody around or saying, you know, it's time to say this just isn't gonna work because I think at this point, you know, each time she sort of tries to take one more step to show that she wasn't claiming membership at tribe or Laming that she wasn't eight of American in order to get benefits. We see that. It wasn't true. So what you're saying about Elizabeth Warren? But what about the language the president uses and the joking references to genocide against native Americans. Elizabeth Warren has made herself laughing stock, and I don't think anybody should be surprised that that that's been the reaction to to her and to her continued claims and we saw just last week. You know, that she she said she was a native American on her application for membership in at least one state bar association wonders whether or not that's grounds for disbarments. If you misrepresent yourself on your application to the bar. I'd say it probably is grounds for disbarments. So you know, she she's made herself laughing stock. I think the longer that she's out there the more that people are going to be talking about this. And it's just it's clear that you know, she somebody who can't be trusted. No comment on what the president of the congresswoman Liz Cheney. Thank you so much for joining us hope to have you back again sometime soon have fun in Wyoming. Thanks, take good to be. With you Saudi Arabia's denying any connection to the league of Amazon CEO Jeff basis text messages to the National Enquirer. So what exactly debate us mean when he referred to a Saudi connection, we're gonna talk to a member of the Senate Foreign Relations committee next stay with us. A book dotcom vacation includes a beautiful all inclusive beach resort with all meals, all drinks, including alcohol activities taxes. 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So I want to start with this crisis in Virginia with the three top officials. And specifically I want to ask you about one. That's very pressing this weekend Lieutenant governor Fairfax has called for an investigation into the allegations against him from two women citing the need for due process. He added, quote, our American values don't just work when it's convenient. They must be applied at the most difficult of times. Many Democrats have called for him to step down in light of these allegations of sexual assault in two thousand four alleged and a rape alleged in two thousand what's your standard for determining whether or not somebody should have to resign. These very serious allegations talking about sexual assault and rape. And the question is whether you can continue to perform his duties, well, he is trying to. Litigate these very serious claims. And I tend to defer to people like Tim gane Mark Warner when it comes to Virginia politics they've called on him to step down that certainly seems to be the right move for me again, these are very serious allegations. And it's just not clear to me how he can continue to do his job. Well, he's trying to contest these claims. I guess the argument he's he's making here is he deserves to process like anyone else deserves process. And I just wonder what the standard is because I don't think we've really ever had national conversation. Obviously, it's great that society has evolved. And now, we're taking accusations made by women seriously, and that didn't use to be the case. But by the same token is just one credible accusation is more than one credible accusation where does due process fall into it. I just don't think that there's any one standard. Well, I think the nature of the allegations do matter and these allegations are serious one of these allegations is an allegation of rape. That's a crime that you can go to jail for for a very long time. And so I think you have to look. At the circumstances of every case, these are serious. Meanwhile, the government's just five days away from another potential government shutdown. Democrats have previously vowed not to give the president any money for any wall. But there's this group of bipartisan lawmakers working on a compromise that according to sources couldn't include up to two billion dollars if not more for border barriers whatever you wanna call them a wall border barriers is it fair to assume that Democrats will end up supporting at least some funding for some sort of barrier at the border at the end of the day. The budget Bill that we passed in the Senate through committee last year provided for one point six billion dollars in new border security money, and of course, members of the Senate voted in the past for border security money, including barrier funding. I think the problem now is that we've only got about seven months left on the fiscal year. So I don't think the president can actually spend much more than two billion dollars. But of course, we're willing to compromise. Of course, we're willing to put more money into border security. I'll be interested to see. With the compromise looks like before I commit to voting for it or against it tragedy. Here Jake is that we should be able to do a bigger comprehensive immigration reform Bill and the president two years ago had the ability to take twenty five billion dollars for border security in exchange for fro protection for the dreamers and didn't take it. I hope we can have that bigger conversation sometime soon. But I think he would argue that it was authorized, but not appropriated. But I don't wanna get into the weeds of all that back in October you and the rest of the Senate Foreign Relations committee invoked the law that requires President Trump to determine whether or not the Saudi Crown prince B was responsible directly or indirectly for the death of journalist gem alpha Shuki that deadline came and went on Friday with no response from the White House. The White House saying that the president quote maintains his discretion to decline to act on congressional committees requests when appropriate your response, this isn't an informal committee request the law requires that when the chairman and the ranking member of the foreign relations committee ask the PR. Residents and make a finding as to a human rights violation overseas. He has to respond. Yes, respond. That's what the law says. So he doesn't have an option here. Now, I understand why he doesn't want to make this determination. His intelligence services are telling him that mama bin Salman was responsible and because either of a personal relationship he has or a business relationship. He has with Saudi Arabia. He is declining to make that finding congress. But this isn't his general executive discretion. He has to under the law. He didn't make it a germination and he didn't. So what? So what now I mean as I soon we can go to court to try to make the president comply with this law. We can raise political pressure as we will this year or we can just move forward with sanctions. And I think that's probably the most appropriate step doesn't have to wait for the president to fill his duty. We can just make it a termination ourselves Zamman. Zamman ordered these Motors. And there should be some kind of penalty and repercussion for that. Speaking of murky situations with the Saudis, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos wrote and extraordinary essay on medium this week accusing the National Enquirer parent company of trying to stored him over explicit photographs sent to his extramarital girlfriend in that essay basis refers to quote, the Saudi angle he seems to be suggesting he and his team seem to be suggesting the Saudis had something to do with the National Enquirer of -taining these explicit photographs what do you make? I really don't know what to make of it. So I'm hoping that the Saudis nothing to do with a very oblique reference. So it's hard for policymakers to understand. But what we do know is that foreign governments are constantly trying to infiltrate the American political process and one of the reasons why we worry about President Trump, and I'm taking a stronger stand on what the Russians did in two thousand sixteen is that it seems to be an invitation for others to try to manipulate our political process. Other ways. So I don't know anything about Jeff basis is sort of openly claims. But I know that this is a constant problem that we have to vigilant about you cosponsored a resolution outlining a green new deal in the Senate this week. It calls for a sweeping overhaul. The entire US economy in ten years by quote meeting. One hundred percent of the power demanding the United States through clean renewable in zero emission energy. Sources a fellow Senator who caucuses with the Democrats independent Senator Angus king of Maine as well as Obama former energy secretary Ernest. Money's say, they don't think that this plan is realistic. I think it's absolutely realistic. I frankly think we need to set our sights high. There are a lot of people who said that it wasn't realistic for the United States to get a man on the moon by the end of the nineteen sixties when president Kennedy Kennedy initially outlined that goal, but we did it. And I think we have to set our sights high. I have a ten year old seven year old global warming is an ecstasy central threat to the planet. And so if we don't. Don't come in this country thing big about saving our nation and our world from destruction that I don't think we're going to get close to meeting the Mark. All right. Have a lot more questions about the green deal? Hopefully, come back. We'll meet during the week or another Sunday. Senator Murphy, thanks so much for being. Thank you. President Trump wasted. No time attacking Lisbeth Warren over her campaign kickoff does that mean the president things? Warren is the one to beat will discuss next with us. Hey, your confidence is important and sometimes one change can make all the difference hair. Club knows this and they're inviting you to become part of the hair club family to see how getting the most out of your hair can change your life. 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Senator Booker Jila brand to two thousand twenty Democrats in early voting states this weekend, both of them responding to the scandals plaguing Democrats in Virginia many of them calling for Lieutenant governor just in Fairfax to resign. Fairfax says he isn't going anywhere. At least not yet. Let's with our experts who you're and you're the former attorney general for the Commonwealth of Virginia. What's going on in your state, top three officials all Democrats under fire? Well, all within a week all of these things exploding and literally almost two day increments. Starting with the governor. Of course, with his black face pictures was what took this national. It isn't what it started in Virginia. And then Justin Fairfax only two days later with the first sexual assault allegation. And you saw two twenty twenty democrat contenders their reference the second alligators. But when the first one came out he immediately came out and was shooting at the accuser rhetorically speaking, of course, in the Washington and using the Washington Post as. Shield and they immediately called him out on that. So he is really violated rule number one when you're in a hole, stop digging. And now he's saying I'm not going anywhere. But tomorrow, I expect Democrats to submit a resolution of impeachment in Virginia, and that will begin a process that has not been used in Virginia in our lifetimes. Are you worried in all congresswoman about the effect? This is having on the twenty twenty candidates on the Democratic Party on anything having to do with with the the agenda that you wanna put forward. Well, we need Virginians to have somebody who could lead in that position. And that's my concern. Mike, and there are three three people under fire. The governor the Lieutenant governor governor general. Governor. And what we do need people in Virginia who can lead. We don't want to be distracted. Look Democrats want to talk about our agenda as you meant twin one talk about lowering prescription drug prices when we talk about healthcare having access to care we need to talk about climate change. So we would like to talk about those issues, and certainly make sure we ver- government shutdown or you at all concerned Senator about the image of impeachment proceedings against an African American Lieutenant governor while the attorney general and the governor who have both admitted dressing up in black face escape any consequences. Very concerned. Jake, I was gonna say hope that the legislature starts impeachment for all three of these folks. You know, what a hell of a way to start off black history month, totally law. I'm black three sixty five. But let's just say like history month is in February. We started off with this four hundred years from sixteen nineteen to twenty nineteen the first twenty Africans brought from anger. Gola? They didn't sign up and jump on the boat or ship themselves brought over to this country to Jamestown Virginia ESL. It's my message to non black people. Don't wear a black face look at the rainbow, mosaic the black faces in this country that they're the only black faces you should be talking about. But take you hit the nelin ahead the hell poxy in terms of biz governor thinking even weighed in on what they're not Lieutenant governor. Fairfax should go all three of them need to go. And it is not a distraction to talk about racism in this country because it is in the DNA of this country is the first thing that this country was founded on racism and bigotry, and we just gotta understand. So congress love with the attorney general himself called for the governor to resign. When the governor's black-faced pictures came out knowing that which tells you he thought he was gonna get away. It is very high gree- and four days later, he's admitting himself, and he's still there, and Eric, and there is no daylight on this issue with anyone that we've actually seen that I've said. These people have to go I've always presumed, and I continue I will continuously say this. You are innocent until you're proven guilty. But can you govern can you actually lead the state and start talking about policy issues? Now, remember the first time that we were talking about this governor was on the policy of the abortion issue third. Trimester abortion issue we've gotten away from even talking about that. And we're going into his contempt for life is contempt more people of color, and then now we're gone into the Lieutenant governor this is just a which is actually a criminal accusation. So they really got to just wipe everything clean start all over. So that we can we can govern. Can I just want to add to what the congresswoman saying this is not just about people folks understand this this is anti blackness? So let's make this clear. This is anti blackness black face in the mid to late nineteenth century eighteen hundreds was about mocking black people are humanity. Our beauty our culture what we mean to this country. So this ain't a conversation about people colored. This is a conversation about anti black racism white supremacy in the United States of America. So governor out north came out of hiding and gave an interview with the Washington Post saying that he wants to focus on racial inequality during the rest of the time as governor. Here's what he said quote there ongoing inequities to access to things like education healthcare mortgages capital on for ship. I want to heal that pain, and I wanna make sure that all Virginians have equal opportunity. And I think I'm the person that can do that for Virginia a little too late. No credibility, and I actually fended by that too. Then let me let me fix what's going on here. So let me go and focus on something else. So that people can stop kissing on things that I did when I was twenty five and he wants to have his repentance as the governor Virginia, look you resign, and you go get your own repentance, and you let us continue on in Virginia with actual governance. But people who legitimately ought to be in the question congresswoman as as the elected democrat at the table. If all three of them resign. Then I believe the Republican speaker of the house of delegates becomes governor? You don't want that now, but we need to think about doing what's right? And what's right for Virginians and overall, I mean look at the race issue in today's day with the president at the helm who has been one of the most divisive president, and frankly racist himself is a conversation. We do need to have. But looking at the line of order and say, no, we're not going to do that. Because of the. Consequences is not the right way to do this. And so for me, I would do we need to have this conversation, and we should continue to have this conversation, but it has to be front and center, and we can't forget about the person who is dividing us, and who himself is injecting this in to the country to live up again and coming out again, we haven't seen it be this bed in recent time till the president has really made this race issue. Whether it's about African Americans, certainly he's doing it all over the board with immigrants, but we need to have this conversation. Just can't. Nineteen eighty four nineteen eighty Gucci just a few days ago. This is not about President Trump about racism in the United States of America, congresswoman, I hear you. But on this. We not blaming President Trump. He hasn't has this kind of. Say this. He is using. I am not going to let continue to let politicians use. This man is the excuse deal. Racism in this country is being going on for far too long in the United States of America. We need some real truth Reconsiliation. Yes. President Donald Trump is a racist. There's no doubt about it. But as we have seen Democrats built in racism, as well, we gotta stop making this about who's a Republican who's a democrat. I want to know who's a humanitarian I wanna know who's gonna stand up people's lives starting with black lives because when you take care black last everybody life is taken care of everyone's life is taken care of. So no more about this. These three men it had nothing to do with President Trump. What Lieutenant governor? Fairfax is going through. Don't have nothing to do with President Trump north on wearing black face. Don't have nothing to do with Donald Trump Harrington brought face has nothing to do with Donald Trump. This is about racism in the DNA this country. And I am over our traumatize Jake, and we are sick of it. You know? To stop playing gaming said. It's exactly right. It's about personal responsibility for your own actions of the things that you've done when he was twenty five years old. It wasn't. He couldn't blame Donald Trump for his twenty five years old. I mean, you can't you and adequate monta -bility. Monta -bility for the things that you do. And I think that's a problem with Virginia. Governor and Percy said, oh, I'm sorry that. Yeah. That was me. I'm sorry about the picture, then it was like, well, I don't really remember and his wife is keeping him from actually moonwalking. I mean, this is the person. That's what were the appropriate levels are. I mean, he cannot he can't govern. So it's absolutely time for him to go and wipe the slate clean. And I appreciate by the way, the Representative saying that this has nothing to do with what you know, who's next in line and the risk of Republicans actually taking office this has to do with right and wrong in this. And this these are clearly wrong for the appreciate those comments as well. But I'm not speaking to you. But they're new on the democrat side Ralph Northam. Universal calls resignation. When this became the whole democrat power structure. It got really quiet while they're having been his hearing the hill the second sexual assault allegation. Right. Then it broke loose again. But if you look at that time line, it got very quiet, and it was we might be more accepting of racism rape than we are Republicans. It started to look like that telling the truth on that Jake. I mean, I hate that. You know, Fairfax has the go-to, but when north was running twenty seventeen recall because of a labor union, he wouldn't put Fairfax. Linda tanks and offer being here. Coming up vodka Trump vacuuming up breadcrumbs new work of performance art, getting a thumbs down from the first daughter. That's a subject of this week state of the cartoon next. 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The new performance art piece in Washington DC, Ivanka vacuuming shows the first daughter cleaning up crumbs, the peace Burke, the real vodka who tweeted women can choose to knock each other down or build each other up. I choose the latter. But it got us wondering what other political figures might make high art Vard mooks. This screen could help former chief of staff, John Kelly workout, his rage or master work to highlight the president's signature style may greets famous bowler hand with Jared Kushner, perhaps American gothic might inspire Democrats to get their message out more successfully voters in the heartland. He doesn't seem able to dig himself out of the whole rendition of Rodin, the thinker might be appropriate for a work as he ponders end ponders and ponders a potential two thousand twenty bit. I have been thinking about running for president. The old guitarist from his blue period could serve as a model for Joe Biden who if elected would be the oldest president ever my still in good shape, but my all my faculties mine energetic. And then there is that masterwork the president might feel like he can't escape the gaze of the Muller. Lisa. Car is next day with us. Hey, Sekou Smith here from the hang time podcast. Join me and my main man John's humid every week as we break down, the latest, NBA, news and storylines with. Yes. From around the league, we should've subscribe to NBA hang time on apple podcasts. Spotify an NBA dot com slash podcast for new episodes every Monday and Thursday this season.