"Happy F*cking New Years"
Hello and welcome to hysteria. I'm Aaron Ryan This Week Eliza Master Monica and I look ahead to twenty twenty and how we're going to keep ourselves in fighting shape for the most important election of our lifetimes. Then t n Tran Kerlin deal and Priyanka arab-indian join me in studio to look back on two thousand nineteen from what we love to watch on. TV To what we read in speaking of reading. We've also got an interview with author. Julia Leah Phillips then instead of hills. We're GonNa talk about all the ways. Women stood up to president trump this year. You'll love to see it. Hey Are you guys ready for twenty twenty. You might think that it's going to be a bad year. What with the eleven months of escalating shouting culminating in the loudest election in our lifetimes times? But I actually think it will be good for example. Twenty twenty is perfect for those New Year's Eve glasses which means the year won't start off with people trying to figure out a way to make eye holes holes in the number one which was a disaster for ten years so for more on how we're getting ready for a very important year. I'm going to call my friend former White House. Deputy Chief of operations under president in Barack Obama and the Generis Garin of grouchy looking cats Eliza master Monica Hello Aaron what was that accent. was that an accent. It sounded like Liverpool. That accent accent is sinusitis. You sound like one of the Beatles. They don't be jealous. I'm totally jealous. So end of the year is a time when a lot of people start kind of assessing what they've already done which is stressful because everybody feels inadequate when they're like what have I done this year. You know whatever but I think what's exciting about the end of the year is that it's a good time to get ready for what's coming in what's coming in. Twenty twenty is a lot of really important stuff The most important most important election in our lifetime is coming up and we have to. I guess be in good good fighting shape so I'm curious what you're GONNA do to get yourself ready to run the eleven month marathon that we have to run next year. I mean honestly I'm taking social media vacation. You are no way we know when I'm going to try. I have to try. Because here's the funny thing. Is You know. Oh I was in Bavaria for a family vacation and the upside of being like eight hours ahead of the east coast with three three generations of your family is like. You're not checking twitter all that often and so I get to my hotel room at the end of the night look at the TV. And be like it would just be like angular merckel miracle being like and then in America Today Huahua and move on and I felt as much better slick. It's not like I forgot. It was fundamentally terrible but sometimes we don't need to be. He reminded of how fundamentally terrible it is all the time because it does make you hopeless. Feel like you're not having impact when we are having impacts. were all having impact packed. It's like get up. You go to work every day you You help take care of people you help all ladies across the street you help support moms demand action Shen you help like support women's rights to reproduction or you know what I mean. Yeah and we're all helping we're doing but sometimes you just need a break you can't it can't just be the negativity in your face all the time because nobody wants to say the news doesn't WanNa say we're winning or we're having an impact. It's like not good news right now laying so we. That's what we I should do. Just needs to take a little break right. I mean you don't WanNa watch the sausage being made. Sometimes I think the news cycle can be really corrosive because you know you see see people coming with. It's a very very bad faith form of entertainment because everybody who comes onto your cable news screen is they're no they're not there to have a discussion there to represent talking points for the most part. They're there to repeat things that they've been told to repeat and they're there to to create a moment for themselves and that doesn't have anything to do with what's really happening. I think what's really happening. A really important thing. Is that the things that are happening. Things that are important are the things that are going on right around you. In addition to what's happening in Washington. Obviously but you can affect the things right around and you. You can't affect the fact that Neil Gorsuch is going on Fox News and and that's gross You can't affect the fact that The RNC is buying hundreds boards of thousands of copies of Donald Trump. Junior's book so that you know Daddy's little propeller hat boy can be on the New York Times bestseller list. Those things are infuriating creating but what you can affect is like you know. Do you talk to your friends and neighbors. Are you taking care of yourself. Are you making sure everybody's okay. Are you representing what your viewpoints viewpoints are and what your morals are in your own communities. And I think in order to be somebody. That's like an an local advocate. You have to you don't want to. I don't want to be like shaking my finger. I know that if I am being a local advocate I have to take care of myself and part of taking care of myself is is Do on my resolutions Eliza. Yeah let's hear okay so kind of along the lines of your social media vacation About the the last first half of last year I I read a ton and not like news. I read a ton of novels and really beautiful writing. That didn't really have anything to do with my day to day life and I found it to be a really incredible escape I found it to be A really great way to feel connected to people's experiences that were different than mine. And I mean I know whatever. I'm not like a kid who just learned how to read but it was really really helpful for me so going into twenty twenty. I'm always going to be reading a novel. And here's my trick back because I know it's sometimes hard to find. I was going to ask okay. So here's the trick Because I used to be like why is it taking me three weeks to read this book. It's only three hundred pages and it was. I would have like ten minutes a day where I would just like sit down or I would read before bed and pass out. Here is the trick Instead of when I find myself just aimlessly scrolling through social media. I'll be like you know what I'm doing the thing I will set a timer on my phone for twenty minutes. Turn my phone upside down. Pick up my book and I don't look at my phone. I don't look at anything but my book for those twenty minutes and usually when the timer goes off I'm like ten more minutes and then it only takes me you know a week or so. Oh to finish a book if I really liked committing to like that. so that's like a trick. That's very important because I think I'm reading fail because I try to do it before bed and the truth with is I just pass out and then I feel like I've lost my brain in what I mean. I feel excited about myself so then I stopped taking the book. Because I know I'm just GonNa Fall Asleep but I think that is a very very good option. It's actually how I wrote my second book. How did you give to turn the Wifi off? You turn off yet. Yeah because the problem is when you're writing the book you're usually on your computer right and so all of a sudden you're getting like pop up notifications and so there's an actual APP. You can download but I just just use my fingers and I would turn the Wifi off and set a timer separately. That was like four an hour because after an hour your brain needs a break anyway and I got so much done and so. I'm actually going to try that with reading because I'm I am feeling a bit. I'm feeling a bit dull. Look I could I could use with a solid you. The couple of books to plow through between now and my birthday. Let's say I mean it's Yeah I've I've I've found that reading has been super helpful. Also win reminded. When's your birthday again? And on the end of February okay. Good so I've time to assemble embarrassing. Present please do. I'M GONNA creeping up on the forty four or this year you leaks. Oh my God. You're DELLERI now double numbers. I don't know what that means. Let's pretend it's lucky. I also have found. This is gonNA sound really like Pollyanna but I've found that when I'm feeling really sad. It helps me to do something nice for somebody else that needs something nice. Nice done for them Yeah so The other the other day So I have my sister-in-law just had a baby and the baby is. She was born at the into November and I was trying to figure out what to buy her for the holidays and I tweeted. You know what is a good gift for a new mom that Oh I saw that that people well didn't think to give you and they're all these people that had all these great ideas and it made me think. Actually that's something. A lot of them were things you could do for a new mom or somebody who's busy. Who has like a lot not going on and not a lot of time there like things that you can do for people that you know and care about that will mean a ton to them and that won't be a huge sacrifice for you So like if you have a friend WHO's a new mom offering to babysit their kids because being around kids as mega distracting. Like it's really hard. It's really hard to be mad about the news when you're watching like you're trying to keep a four year old from killing themselves. It's great so I mean offering to babysit somebody's kids and being like you're going to go get a manicure right now and I'm going to sit with your kids and not think about the dumbness of the world. I'm GonNa think about how cool your kids are or how crazy your kids are I think like doing a little something like that for somebody that you know is super nice thing to do. I think that is really nice and you know unrelated but related a couple of weeks ago. I have really only been suffering with what I think are hot flashes. And it's like the more you think it's happening. You're like Oh my God. I'm only early forties. Is this really menopause. Like what's going to happen rush and I was really just like by myself on the Internet and just going down the rabbit hole and I was like fuck that and so I tweeted and I think that one thing that is nice to due to and that I want to do more of because people were so nice to me is like sometimes you just have a real question and you want to crowd source so I tweeted at menopause twitter and was like clashes. Start mock you about them and can I tell you I got the nicest most fucking helpful answers that you can possibly imagine so when I see people tweet things like that. I'm going to take time to write thoughtful a replies so that you can pass it forward pay it forward because like honestly some of the stuff I was like. Wow Wow. That's really easy like I can do that. And it helped Yeah 'cause we're not alone. Yes nobody nobody's ever I mean that's the upside and the downside of the Times. We're living in right now is nobody's ever alone. Nobody's ever alone like two sides of that. Let's use it to our advantage when we can. Yeah and we're especially really not alone going into two thousand twenty because there are many of us as we proved in two thousand eighteen and we just need to keep ourselves healthy and in good fighting mm shape and make sure that we're taking care of each other too. And I think we can do this. Eliza I think we can do it you know what in the immortal words of a man. We don't see enough anymore. Yes we can just came to me. And I told myself I am also tickled and let's end the conversation version on that happy New Year Eliza and looking forward to a great twenty twenty feet Zane by about a month ago we asked you to submit pitches for fake be level holiday movies the likes of which you might see on lifetime around this time of VR. And you guys responded in such force that we are quite frankly worried about you. We got hundreds of pitches and people are still sending them to the point. That Carolina is quote quote getting mad unquote as promised. We picked some of our favorites. And Right. Now you're going to hear some of the hysteria crew review of them. And in the meantime make sure to look out out for video versions of these pitches hitting could media socials. You definitely won't regret it. Unlike Caroline who in one hundred percent regrets agreeing to having this contest in the first place hope Hope you're ready. This is all in one for Christmas. Is You written by Rachel. Carol is a high I power working woman in the big city. She returns from her family. She for in Shipren Montana for the first Christmas and alone she does. She should since mom recently passed ask. Dad is on his own trying to return to her quainton idyllic hometown. She sees her childhood best friend. Tom Sensitive Guy. Man's Smith is now helping her. Dad runs sheep farm. Oh and he's a widow with a ten year old daughter named holly but the trouble and they need something big or or a large evil corporation will take over the farm make an automated jury. Can Carol Save the farm will she. Tom pull the wool away from their eyes. And realize your against one another with a large sweater sale one musical number that is completely unnecessary. And the help of a plucky general and Santa. It just might happen. Oh baby lamb on it. Tom's Christmas hello everybody. Welcome back This is a thing I feel. You need to be honest with you people. This is something thing we've recorded like a week ago. You're hearing you're hearing are old voices but we're going to do a special episode for you about the end of the year things we enjoyed in two thousand nineteen gene and things that we found to be good in a year of a burning garbage. So let me introduce the panel. WHO's here to help me try to end the year on a high I note first off? She is a comedian. In the head. Writer for CBS's diversity showcase. It's Dan Tran. Hella back so great to be we hear again again. ooh The magic of behind. Don't even yes. I think it was on an airplane with members of beach. Yeah I was in found out what this means. What does it mean there'd be a little? It's a tiny. It's a hard about this pan from blue. From from sunnyside. She would always do that. And and Moses were both like why she was putting up that money sign it was always like it every pictures like cash money and I was like. Oh I don't know anything about Capon. Okay up next yes we have. She's an actor comedian. You can see her on sunnyside on. NBC Dot Com. It's carrying who and Hulu NBC. Hulu Caesar Taylor and last but not least special guests. I think you're the most frequently appearing special guest on Hysteria Elia like Lovett. You've got squatters rights. At this point it it is crooked media zone Priyanka Urban de thank you so much for being there for having me as always loves panel. It's fun it's fun approach. How was your year my year is ending better than it started? I think that's good. That's bad it's like I feel like December has been busy and fun and we'll just kind of just be like yeah. It was fun shark totally. I remember one time I talked to you. And you're like I feel like crying all. Yeah that was. That was a dark days. Yeah we've moved past the look now doc. Is that this short days. I'm not crying in my car anymore. Like we're good so good teeth from you. You're a crying is bad like in New York City. You never have any alone time and I remember like learning that in New York you just cry out in the open. Oh Yeah it's like putting on the odorant you just I do it. You're just like well. There's no place for me to do this. You're sitting there like walking eating like a euro and crying. It's just a normal but I'm glad you're not crying anymore to sometime. I I believe you've never you'll never again. Well because twenty thousand nine had so much news was bad and annoying. Yeah I thought that it would be a good way for us to end the year by talking about things that we really liked in two thousand nine hundred and we're going to start talking about stuff that's like normal stuff to like and then we're going to get weirder as the conversation goes on a dating APP outline all your favorite like the Well I think it's a good thing about twenty. Nine thousand nine is that there was a lot of good art. Made like you know I was looking back at two thousand one For just like normal reasons just because I was like listening to a playlist of that Arab because I was was trying to write about something happening in that era and I was like wow culture was trash in the year. Two Thousand One and it's actually pretty good. Now you know. Politics are bad but culture. Chur is is getting better. What was bad in two thousand and one thousand wash low rise bell-bottoms means With women back apparently Arrellano over my dead body coming back. They're not coming back. But it was like you know like Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears and like the Spray Tan and frosted frosted lipstick and it was just like it was just like everything was like orange and shiny shiny and leathery in a way it kind of is White House yes void and it's played out now it's playing out in politics. Boy Bands unlike rap metal. Like which is so so much worse than I remember. I listened to Po Dino's like this isn't music shouting so let's get started on some of the good except happened in two thousand nine hundred and I'm going to start with you Karen since you work in TV on the camera what what do you think it was the best show that you That you watch. That might not be like one of those shows. It's mentioned in Lake Award Conversation. Oh it's a it because I really I know but she won all of them. I really did think that that she was I mean I. I think that we know who she don't even say her name. We all know it was like I mean. I'm sure that there was a divided. I I'm sure it was a divided place slash slash room and all that stuff But I think at thoughtfully bike season two and the first episode of that and the way it was like a parallel of the last supper upper was just so stunning one that I've seen one that I've seen that I think is really terrific. That other people might have not seen He's incredible in this is Paul. Bitney is in a Discovery Channel Show about the unabomber. I don't know if it's from this year but he is insanely good. He is like it's a testament to how if you don't have the right network behind you To like push you through the award season but you have great content like if that was on. HBO It would have been the will of HBO. It was it's not perfect towards the end but his performances just she's stellar he's absolutely stellar. And no one's heard of it. I hadn't heard of it and then somebody told me about it and I was like Holy Shit I left a the gathering with real humans whereas like I gotta go finish. Watch Paul Right now. What what happened with the unabomber getting? It's a cliffnote spoilers. Aaron felt about Chernobyl. It was like oh I don't want to do these in boyle the way Craig Mazin who created and wrote that show used to be Ted Cruz roommate in college. He's the roommate of Ted. Ed crews always like fuck that guy like yeah also and then he wrote a show about Chernobyl go figure I mean he also co wrote the hangover two. So he's he's had quite complicated. I I was in a room with him and he is also just like a lovely man. So it's one of those things that you're just like. Oh all Craig so glad. Here's your findings. You're the greatest Couple of shows that I saw that I thought were under song. Did you guys see undone on Amazon Amazon. Now this animated and it's Super Weird and Bob Odenkirk isn't it and it is about a woman who is she gets in a car accident in and after the car accident she like thinks that she sees her dead father and her dead father is like telling her how to solve his murder. And it's like so weird and it's not perfect but it's really weird and good and it's one of those things I'm like. I'm glad they tried this a couple of Jack Horsemen people made it and it's really interesting interesting. The main character has A disability she has a cochlear implant and she like will remove it sometimes it like plays into into the show and she also is a very flawed person. It's really really good so I recommend undone no my would be okay off of animated animated. I loved to Coon Birdie Did anybody I was just thinking about them. I really love that. Show it it only. It only had one season. But it's It's cartoon voiced by Ali. Long in Tiffany Haddish and Stephen and it's just such a smart funny cartoon about women I'm in and they also like take on some serious issues I don't WanNa spoil it for even watch it but it's so funny so smart and beautiful it's beautiful I think it's it's it's Lisa Hanna. Wall right yes okay and then the other show would be. But I feel like it's always a flea bags do but Penn fifteen. Yes so good. I haven't laughed out loud at a show in so long in that made me laugh out loud. I was crying and laughing at the same. Yeah Yeah I'm not like cry laughing. I was like like emotion crying and also laughing aloud at the. There's a scene where they're at a school dance and that and I was just like Oh. It's the concert recital got me. God's watch the last two episodes about a week ago and I remember you talking about their so amazingly as in your Ira Ryan and it was. Like I watched and I was like their incredible. I can see this is excellent excellent. It's like A. It's like a beautiful indie film where these girls actually like really ground into it and it's funny and it's very poignant and the voices so specific it's really wasn't so good and it gets that's better yeah you forget that. They're like thirty something year old women playing these teenagers. Sometimes you can see that they've like strapped yet physicality and like it's so amazing. What makes it? So that's what makes it like. That's what helps to heighten the ridiculousness like how insane all of the emotional stuff that they're going through is is anyway. It's so good though. Shut up what were your shows. The mine is decidedly a little more trash Asia. But I love trash TV you. I think which was a long winters that okay right yes. Yeah Yeah Oh that is actually for some lifetime which I think no one watched and then it got on Netflix. Right around the New Year's is the first show up. Yes because it's crazy. It is a bat. Gotcha crazy show. I Love I feel like I am weightless into TV and movies and the rest of town. But when I do watch I'm usually with like my roommate or friends. It's very fun show to watch with people especially if you're like a person who will like screaming freak out like kind of like get scared by things and react if you were like a reactive person to hear TV Yeah it is a trip and the second season's coming out Right after Christmas and I'm very I think the day this podcast error. So that's what I'm going to be doing. It is a crazy show. It is definitely one of those shows that seems like it has a self awareness to it it. No it's like playing to the audience. Were it like knows that you're gonNA freak out about it is over. It is ridiculous. It's ridiculous it's the craziest show you watch television with others like it's the year two thousand. Yeah Yeah Kinda like my roommate and I were great. We're both home like let's go watch episodes whatever. Oh yeah that's what I used to a bachelor when the I just like I saw depressing to watch and I'm like yeah I do that with the Ellwood. I'm trying to see the new L.. Word in a group right now I was trying to watch. How is trying to watch an episode of the Bachelor? 'cause I got it real curious because people have been talking about on this podcast. I don't have a we'd watch it. It's not on the Hulu Dollar TV antenna and like connected to your ATV and you get free TV. What am I queen? What are you talking about your Ryan? Let's move onto movies that we really liked. I'm going to start. I okay so let me. Just start with my thesis on movies. I think that the only interesting movies that are being made right now. We're in the horror and thriller space. Oh has those movies rely on novelty and surprise and so by design they have to have something surprising about that. Like Hollywood can't worm its way out of it. Like Hollywood tends tends to just make shit that already worked and do it over and over again until they've beaten to death and you hate every version of it but like with horror it has to be new audiences audiences needed. That's why get out was so successful. It was new and surprising us was so good because it was like a new thing In that tradition I think midsummer was one of my favorite movies. And I'm a wimp about her. I have to read the Synopsis Before. But I thought it was a really beautiful piece of filmmaking and in an incredible examination of like grief resilience survival and And I think the way that it was shot the way that it's like it sounded was just incredible so we haven't seen I mean there is some mallet violence in it. So if you're sitting down me out very sensitive live to Mallet valley where you're like you're like you never surprise in any movie but I have to read the Synopsis Go. It's like because it's like. Are they going to do this. Because there's is no I read what happens and I was like okay. I get it. And then there's the same thing with this With the directors other movie hereditary where. It's like I knew it was super scary and I read it and I was like okay. I'm ready for this and I was not fully ready for it. Midsummer's I think really innovative and it is shot. Really he like it's sort of like overexposed and sort of like hurts your eyes to look at it and there's also there's like mega violence happening on it and just like it's a really. It's a good movie not for kids but has anyone else. I need to see on my list. I is scared. I haven't I been bad about watching movies this year. Okay I may look man was like meal like ooh. Okay right okay. So you're like an do you WANNA go. Yeah I have well. I my every the movie. It was parasite it's because it was like such an incredible movie viewing experience. It was truly the most like novel movie watching experience. I've ever had the other movie I'm going to do is the farewell. I haven't seen the farewell. Yep Oh my God absolutely loved it such a good the film have you seen it. Yes it was what I was gonNA say so because there's a couple of things number one is that I haven't seen that many movies this year from this year. I if I'm not on it and then I was gonna say that because I have seen it and I was like it's small. It's a tiny little movie but like they did the they did the important stuff Ryan woman directed directed at right. Yeah yeah directed and wrote it while it's a tiny little sundance movie. That's kind of a little engine. That could that is kind. It's she. I mean just given even the David Goliath filmmaking and the budget she was working on and stuff it's just she just she just did the most. It's like when you see beasts of the southern wild they'd against the they hit the relationships the relationships are done in such a way. It's like Oh yeah this is what a movie is about at its core is like human connection and like yeah. There's something really beautiful beautiful. It's funny and I started weeping from the jump cried through like just waves of crying. You Got Janka disease. Just wave of crying throughout the whole theater Aquafina really good in it. I would argue that. The other characters are like the grandmother is incredible the grandmothers phenomenon nominee. The grandmother stole the show is so for that alone. Go Watch the fair. It's time also an independent filmmaking. Lor Lulu weighing. Who is the director of that movie is dating Barry Jenkins? I know it's like lower couples like very hot power all the talk of Chelsea Peretti and Jordan. Peele I'm like really you guys really GonNa concentrate all that town and that one household you guys are a little vacuum genius share yourselves. Just Kidding Priyanka. What was your favorite movie with who fiancee-caddy with whom get more into let's go? Let's go deeper into that. That was your twenty nine in mine was book smart. Yeah I love a little coming of age Camilleri. Very heartwarming sweep but also like super fucking funny like it was like very like actually laugh out loud. Funny good I I just loved it. I loved it. It was the the scene with the swimming pool There's a swimming pool scene. That has a song Shoot who music. The whole movie is eight is really good. Yeah there's there's a swimming pool scene where it shows like these. This girl who like her crush she thinks her she and her crusher like undressing the. And they're gonNA GONNA jump in the swimming pool and she's looking for her crush. Yeah and it's like it's so it's such a beautiful shot scene. It's so good I I really like them. Also beanie Feldstein. Feldstein is so good. She's great they both are they're both incredible. Delta Delta Airlines edited that Queer Seen One. Yes 'cause 'cause I was like it was the first time I had seen it. I watched book smart on the plane and then I was like oh this is such a sweet scene and then I came home on American and the guy next to me was watching it and I saw a completely different. And you're like like this got cut out of the delta. I I felt bad movies. How do you know what you miss you have no idea w out Delta Delta the hallmark of the air? Yes yeah I have one so this is the other one is this is from two thousand sixteen but I do think that there is a lot of poisonous in the way you can watch movies now. Park Chan Wook the handmaiden. Hasn't even I know but I've been wanting to do stunning and the cool thing about this is it's an adaptation that's an F.. It is an adaptation From a British like novel or something so it's like he made it it's subtitled but he made it and you know like like and like adapted it the other way which I thought was was really fucking boss of him like you do it. I'm going to watch that. Get it you get it park all right before we get to the fun ones certain books. I know you're a reader for what was your favorite book of the Philly. This'll probably be a lot on a lot of people's lists already educated. I thought I read it the very very beginning of the year and it is just crazy to me that the woman who wrote it. Basically if you don't know much about the story she's she grew up I think it's survivalist or something. So they're basically like isolated from society and like the middle of I think Utah Perner family. They don't believe in modern medicine and like they don't go to traditional school any of this And they have like they deal with health issues mental health issues all of this stuff and when she's seventeen she goes to school for the first time and she's like learning about stuff like like the Holocaust and all these things like way later and like her sense of what the world is this is so vastly different than what any most people reading it is and I feel like the experience of reading it actual book. It's like so beautifully written. It's the awareness and leg. The all of it is incredible. And you're like it is so the feet of you writing this book like what it took to get to this. The point is incredible and not only that the story is moving and emotional and good and like blue book so quickly and told everyone I knew about it. I just wanted to write down. It is good good ten PM favorite book. I'm always I'm always behind on books so I'm like trying to catch catch up with the classics and reading things so the book that I read this year that I had had been my list was a sympathizer but I know that's from like a couple years ago. Has Anyone read the sympathizer. It's on on my list that I have not sparked it's written by Viet done that and win Vietnamese author and it's about how called the sympathizer Won The Pulitzer in two thousand sixteen. I think But it's about a Vietnamese man. Dan who was a spy for the via Kong a spy in the South Vietnamese army and then he leaves Saigon and come to the states. And it's Kinda about how his life in the United States states is all complicated because all of his friends are in the South Vietnamese army but he has been working for the BBC. So it's just like whose side like doc who is actually against who in war and it's I remember reading it and I was like sad couldn't put my finger on wires like sad and upset and forlorn for like five days after he. And it's because there's like a whole section of it that's about a reeducation camp and my dad was in one but he never talks about it and I. It was the first like portrayal of one that I had read and I was so upset. And then my partner was like Ah Yeah you just read this book. That's like about your like an related to your dad's experience and you'd never talked about it before I was like. Oh that's why I'm sad that day but it's a beautifully beautifully written book another memoir. No no fictional actually fiction okay. It's a fiction book here in. What was your favorite book of this year? I struggled this year with books. And I'm looking back over my notes because I was given suggestions of books from other the people so I'm just gonNA say ones that haven't gotten to yet that I haven't read that I heard her excellent There's a book called home going That's also my list right and then Less is supposed to be really. I mean obviously less is supposed to be very good but And my sister serial killer is yet. Yeah my sister. The serial killers was very very good last the last the last like novel that I like. I like I like love with my heart was the sellout by Paul. Oh Betty Bady them saying his name. Right what is what is the settle at the sellouts allow which is like I. I mean it's it's so funny and sarcastic it's satire. It's a man in Los Angeles who owns slave. He's looking the last guy to own a slave in in like I think it's like south central Los Angeles and And he is in a Supreme Court case where he's like making the case for it and it was just one of the most original things I've ever read. I laughed so much because it's such a commentary on what capitalism is sounds like a Mel Brooks Ian. Lift to make that funny your. It's like when I heard the premise is like no. And then I started reading and the writing so fucking good so good I mean I hope you enjoy i. It's like I always could snobby about like a really snobby about pros. I want the pros to be the same thing I wanted to. I wanted to sing. I just want the pros to be like. Oh aw I wanNA feel like I wanNA feel gysi Ghankay. Okay that's noted that's going to be your expect the blurb on the back of like something you have a friend who writes a novel Dot Dot Dot Gysi dot like moist very moist east very moist. When you write your book? I'll read it and then let me get let me get out. Not although I don't know if my I dunno my pros would make you moist. I don't. I'm not sure that I have that gift. Oh jeez UNIFIL really dry moist is a good word. Somebody's gun hill. It's been fine it's take it I don't hate it I just I just. I'm tired of. I'm tired of the debate on subscribed not not not making eye contact more like she's moving on. I one time I have a like a friend confront confront me and she was like you know you make people feel very judged and I was like what and then I realized I. My mom has that quality two or sometimes she'll just be like I don't think so and it's like she's not trying to be anyway. I sometimes do it so that was not my intention. I read a lot this year and some of the books. I read a lot of books not on purpose. Just just so happened that I was like. Oh this sounds interesting. That sounds good. A lot of them were by Women and people of Color and queer people which was like a cool thing. When I was like looking down at my I was two books that I've read One of my favorite works of fiction. That was kind of a light. Read that kind of sneaks around and punches you in the back of the head Ed Fleishman is in trouble By taffy bulldozer ackner. She is a New York Times writer. Profiles are like incredible. We interviewed her for the show. She's it's just wonderful. The book is like very fun and like it's an effervescent type of pros. It's a fun. Read a book. That is a really heavy read. That will not take very long as Colson. Whitehead's the nickel boys. It's about a reform school in Florida during this during segregation and These two black boys were there and and just kind of trying to live and survive and it has to give anything away but there is a part of the book where I did not see it coming in any way and I had to put the book down and go on to walk. It was like it wasn't like a graphic like it wasn't a scene of violence or or anything like that are wasn't like a particularly traumatic likes. It just was like so crazy. It's a great book I loved a book by Called Miracle Creek. By Angie Kim a courtroom thriller about an immigrant family who runs a treatment facility for kids with autism and special needs. And there's an accident there and the you know the whole book is unpacking with the accident was at first I was like I don't know if I would like this book it is. It's so good I lent it to my dad and my dad loved it and it's not normally his thing. Also Julia Phillips wrote a book called Disappearing Earth which is probably my favorite book that I read this year. It is a somebody described it to me is like a magic trick. I agree it is a book about two. Little girls go missing on a remote peninsula in Russia and every subsequent subsequent chapter takes place in the months after the disappearance and they follow different women who live on the peninsula. And when you're reading it you're like why am I at a party with this this girl and then when you get to the end realize every story had important clue about what happened and like at the end. You're just like Oh my God like it's it's really really incredible and I'm delighted to announce that we have an interview with her That is going to be on this episode of this podcast where we talk about that book. It's it's Soga. I have a copy myself and bought a copy for a family member for Christmas. And it's like it's so good trips always going to digest triple staying with it like when when you switch around from like sometimes I find like when I have to switch from voice to voice like it's hard for me to connect between character sensors. The sense of place in the book is so Oh intense that that it keeps. You centered on the plot itself like the peninsula that come chuck to peninsula is like super remote. had been totally cut off from the rest of the world during the Soviet era and that it's also like volcanic and there's all this like you natural beauty and danger to it so you really. The place is like what keeps you in the story. It's it's really really good We have to take a break but when we come back my conversation with disappearing earth author her Julia Phillips. And now more of your bad movie pitches. This story is a season of joy written. I carry a Martha Stewart. Type celebrity name joy goes to a small town for inspiration for a Christmas book. She has a warm public image but in real life she's cold and she spends a good amount of time at the beginning of the movie holding her phone up to the sky trying to get signal to get email and make this miscall. She meets a handsome local farm-to-table chef name. She falls in front of him while searching for signal he teaches her about what is family Christmas recipes and about slowing down to really enjoy spirit of Christmas. They fall in love. They Co author occurs the night by Christmas all right I am super for stokes to give you guys a treat. The author of one of my favorite works of fiction. This year is in studio with me and I could not be happier to introduce to you. Julia Phillips Phillips Hi. I'm so thrilled to be here so Julia let me. Just get this out of the way. Your book disappearing Earth which came out in May rocked my face off it's Eh it's one of my favorite things I've read and I've I've been really i. I've been real not to brag but I read a lot 'cause I'm lonely and have no friends but it it really impacted me and I think I read it in June and months later. I'm still thinking about it. So thank you for writing this book. First of all that makes me so happy. Thank you for reading. It blows my mind still that people read a book that I wrote when you were writing it. Did you feel like you're kind of in a room by yourself like all work and no play Mc Jack Del blowing over and and over again. I definitely wasn't a room by myself a lot of the time And I was sharing pieces with people. But it's so hard when you're working on something to convince anyone to read it at any any point so it's really hard for me to imagine you know I would be like. I have these short stories in the literary magazine. Does anyone want to read them and people would say no thank you never so. This is a very different experience. Well Oh you also were playing the long game with writing this book in that. It sounds like you spent years living in the Senate. The setting of the book come check Peninsula in Russia. I'm is going to struggle with it. I'm like when I first opened the book. It has all these Russian names and I was like who boy I know here. We go with Warren piece. But it's actually. It's not as hard to follow as like say the rush investigation. So you've been wanting to write a book obviously set in this place for a while. What was the germination of love that idea? I was Larussa file As a teen and in college I studied Russia tonight studied in Moscow Geico and I for me studying Russian and wanting to be a novelist which was always my ambition we're really divergent interests and I couldn't figure out a way way to tie them together and finally I thought okay if I can go to Russia and write about Rape Fiction about Russia in English. Then that'll be the way to sort of like scratch. Both these issues is at once so I started looking for a setting for a novel and I didn't know what that novel would be but I thought there are certain things I want that setting to be like I would love it to be in in eastern Russia because I spent a lot of time in western Russia I would love it to be not as centered around Like a huge sort of urban and dense population. Not as much about city life. I was living in New York City. At the time I had Spent a lot of time in Moscow and I wanted to be in a setting that was more rural or more more connected to nature and I also wanted to be really attractive. I thought if I'm going to move to a place I wanted to be a beautiful place and when I learned about come chuck I thought this is it. This is like so much more everything I wanted and so much more so so it sounds like you're writing about part of Russia that is itself marginalized from the rest of Russia and within that you're writing about people who are marginalized. You're the stories that we follow in. The book are stories of women who for whatever reason are sort of pushed to the edge. You there's a woman who has a cancer diagnosis. Who's also an asshole? But she has a cancer diagnosis. And you feel very bad for her. And then there's a woman becomes a widow for a second time was the the choice to make the stories about women deliberate or did you just kind of feel the book pulling you in that direction. It was deliberate. I the stories pulled me in that direction and then I went all in from the very beginning so I Started trying to go to come Chaka in two thousand nine. I got a grant that let me move there in twenty eleven And once I got there I found you know. Come Chaka so isolated. It's it's on the Bering Strait sort of a huge picture that tale of Alaska swing it swings into Kamtchatka and it was a region that was a military base during the Soviet the Union. So it's totally closed to outsiders and still it's really difficult to get two dozen any roads that connected to the mainland. It's effectively an island and I went all the way around around the world like twenty hours of flying time from home for me to get to this place that was so separate from. It's the rest of its country and yet when I got there all I could think about. Were concerns. I had as an American fears I was experiencing and bringing with me from home. I I couldn't you know wherever you go there you are. I couldn't leave those behind and a lot of my experience in the world. To that point and a lot of my experience the world now is shaped by gender and shaped by it and the and and by being a woman by for me being White by the experience of clearness in the world all of these things things were so present in my life and I brought those with me and they completely filtered how I perceived everyone come Chaka so the structure of this book which is Abou All these different women's stories in the context of this one. Big Crime like how these different women are impacted by this one disappearance of these two young sisters sisters. It's about for me exploring that that range of what Violence against women looks like what harm women's lives. Looks like and how interconnected we all are and yet how we have this very different experiences based on how we see ourselves and how other people see us in the world The crime that kicks off if this story is a disappearance was it inspired by anything real. In this age of true crime it was inspired by A couple of cases says one of which was inspired by a lot of different cases Some of which are so close to the crime in the book. That publicist assistant. Stop talking you know. But I I'll say that I while I was working on this I was going in really deep on the Jacob Borderline case in the dark podcast near there is so. Did you listen into the dark. I couldn't it was it was to like it completely. Affected my whole child like everybody's childhood around that part of the country it was really consuming and makes so much sense and I think the the this reflective podcasts as a really good job at facing the trauma the ongoing trauma of what happened that you know for his his parents like or that doesn't go away that doesn't recede as the headlines received But they also looked at the the scope of the investigation and to me that was so fascinating to situate this crime This very personal very individual crime inside a system that can be really easily misdirected. And an everywhere that you put your research if you're putting your resources for toured for example on national search then you are not going to be dedicating as many resources to a local Search you just don't have limitless time and money and people to do that and sometimes you go with your gut and your leads you the wrong way and to me. That was a really interesting thing to look at How these systems function and what collateral federal damage that creates for the people involved? Though you know it's funny as you're talking I was thinking I see some patty wetter laying in the mother of the girls Like really really they do. She was such a she was a figure who is Pretty prominent literally for for a long time and yeah. That's that's a super interesting and it was also such I think you and I are around the same age and the missing child Motif was such a thing growing up And it's such a fear. Is it a fear that people have in in Russia. Also do people go missing in the Wilderness to people get kidnapped is there you know. Is that something that happens. I was so there are a couple things I can say specifically about. Come talk to me. It was a real education to come chocolate because it has relatively little infrastructure Russia's so big it's it's a sixth of the populated activated land on the world and come Chaka's really far from the seat of power Russia's really centralized So most of the wealth in the population and the infrastructure and the resources are sort sort of gathered in and around Moscow and come Chaka is Forty five hundred miles away from Moscow and and so it's for example It doesn't have many paved roads. It doesn't have Train tracks it doesn't have a- all sorts of different infrastructures that can create Connection and also create a safety net among people people who live there and because of that. And it's also a very it's a very dynamic Even geographically ethically dynamic place. So there are. It's it's on the Pacific Ring of fire so it's really geothermally and seismically active. It has volcanoes Gino's at how hot springs It has a pretty challenging climate. Because of this in the same way I think that is true. In many places in the north and many places with little infrastructure sure Sort of the boundary between life and death is thinner and There are lots of ways that you can be at risk and lots of place place ways that you can be hurt even if it's not at the hand of another person so so Def is kind of closer and more present If I get drunk for example example in the streets of Newark and like stay out all night. Something bad might happen but it might not if I get drunk income Say donate like freeze to death and that is not Often something that people talk about in New York where I'm from like the idea that does say you're freeze to death like that is just. Not The I dea. Death is not so close At least in my social circle right I was interested in that. How how much more acknowledged knowledged Danger and death were and I am also really when I was there. I happened to be there at a time when I first I guess I was there in two thousand eleven to twenty tall and then again in two thousand fifteen. When I first went there there was a serial killer operating there at the time which I didn't know okay? Okay and then he was there were there. Were like missing girl posters around and then later I think by I think he was arrested rested in twenty four teen And ended up dying pretty soon after his arrest so that case case was ongoing and in the background and and posters were there and I think a sense of alarm was there and yet it was something that was not yet spoken about public. It wasn't yet Acknowledged as a thing does. Smoke was there but nobody was quite like. There's a fire behind the smoke. That may I ask that makes you have. There's a chapter in here about A female character. WHO's Gay Did you when you were in Russia preparing pairing to write this book Did you get to know any people who are gay who experienced similar anxiety to the gay female character. Yeah I did I met a couple of their Of Two young women who had very similar concerns to that particular character in addition From the way that it manifests in the plot is quite different but their concerns were were The sort of thoughts that they were voicing are similar to thoughts batch. She has While I was there there was also like they're also people being killed on Kamtchatka for being gay a which is not Or for being suspected of being gay or queer which is not a something that's particular to come Chaka or to Russia by any means I mean that is something that is is currently happening still in communities in America and and that kind of Community unity rage at people perceive to be other I think is really strong Both there and here and something that made a big impression on me makes a big impression on me. Yeah it seems like one of the things that kind of kind of goes through. The entire book is a sense of is a sense of that. Something really bad just happened in is about to happen again. Like in a horror movie you know in like there's a jump scare and then you have little lol in you know if you've seen enough horror movies you know that the lull is there to calm you down so that you're the next jump scare makes you even more. I want to talk about the process of writing novel which to me as someone who's never done it seems like horrible And I also wanted to tell our listeners. That the reason that you're on the show right now is because after your book. I tweeted about it and we communicated over twitter and I also found out through twitter after I read another another book that I liked Miracle Creek by Kim that you and Angie are friendly with each other that we just had a sleepover this past weekend thing to me. So my question is You know in novel novel writing which seems like a very solitary pursuit which we talked about before. How do you find community and do you find that other women who do what you do support each other? And how does that look I. So I I before I wrote this manuscript For this book for disappearing Earth I wrote a different manuscript and they wrote it totally in isolation like I was alone all the time. I wasn't really sharing my work with people and it really damaged Not only the final product. But also because I wasn't seeking feedback or community at all but also so my wellbeing while I was working on it. I I think to write anything. You do need to have some private time. And also some shared time where you're collaborating with people and hearing the ideas and hearing feedback even if you don't end up incorporating it for whatever reason just to understand that if you want to share your work with the world as a final product you you also WANNA share. Share your work with the world in process to some extent So while I was working on this book I was really really grateful to have writing groups and to have workshops and to be able to share my work with people who offered feedback. That was huge for me. I have been even having trying even trying to teach myself that lesson during the writing process that that sharing is so important. That collaboration is so important. I've been completely blown away. Since the book came out about how how collaborative and support the rating is certainly women. Writers Women. Debut raiders like Angie but also like everybody. Everyone is so generous Chris with sharing resources and looking out for each other and celebrating each other. And it's a really really beautiful thing that I think of how many years I spent bent feeling like there was a cool kids club that was going to kick me off their lunch table if I tried to come over and and it doesn't feel like that it doesn't feel like there's a just lunch table that you're allowed to be at and everywhere else is rejected. It actually feels like a really joyful dance party. There's like no cool kids like anything anything. Anytime I've I've re enter entered a different sphere of my career. It's like you know I'm working at a a blog. Oh this is the cool kids and I start working there and we know we're all nerds Zucchero desperately about what we do and then you move into like journalism all the cool kids of journalism. Oh no they're nerds. Who Care desperately about what they do? TV writing same deal like it's cool to hear that novelists are also well see all of the work you do so when we were mentioning on twitter I of course completely fan girl all over you and because all the work it seems to me to be the most challenging thing which is sort of writing on deadline or writing as with the novel no one was saying to me. Oh please write your novel. I need to have it in the world so I could spend all all the time I wanted to make it however I wanted and I feel like that sort of responsive writing where the audience is there already that seems so challenging to me. I don't know if you find it. Just as a grass is greener situation now. Because if you're making something and you're constantly getting feedback eventually you start to feel like you're losing your center. And you're like Maya crowd outsor- sourced person I mean. Everybody has a crisis and the crisis of the person who's doing like quick deadline turnaround. especially if you're doing that stuff so my crowd source is all all of this just generated by what gets garners the most positive attention and I think if you're working on something longer the challenge would be that you're just sort of you announcing in the dark and and that you don't quite know what people because you don't WanNa just write something that's totally to your tastes that nobody's really going to care about because the purpose I think of art is to communicate ultimately So it's a I feel like it's a balance between like how do I communicate effectively in a way that people will want to consume and then also remain true to what I'm trying to do with my actual vision is and it's I think it's just hard no matter what you do. Yeah Yeah it's a really important question with uh no answer and sharing his so vulnerable like you know when you're talking about working in a writers group it's so hard to put something out like a first draft of a script or a first draft of a a piece or you're like I have a germ of an idea that's the most vulnerable feeling world. It's like walking naked into a meeting and everybody else is wearing close. Yeah so It's really cool to hear that. It's something that I guess. People who work the way that you work people who are novelists have to kind of muster that courage over and over again to like do it. And that's like it's cool and it's cool that you've you've done it and you've put something that has been so meaningful to a lot of people like doc. We were reading reviews actually our producers because I they put together a prep paid for me even though I wanna see that I was like. Here's some reviews and they were reading reading the reviews and today they're like we were just like we have to read the because it was it was so well received by so many people so I I'm really glad that you came in today and I have one more question. And there's about the title Because I just I'm fascinated by the way people go about choosing titles for things because it's always the most frustrating process. How did you choose the title so so I chose the title based almost exactly of what you just said before off of of this sense that at any moment something else could be lost so the the book kicks off with this big loss with the girls going missing And they right before they go Missing their two sisters one tells the other story about as soon Nami hitting Kamtchatka and washing away a town and in her telling. There's clearly this piece of earth that that disappears and then just a couple of pages later. They are also swept away by something out of their control something they could have never anticipated and I wanted the title to refer to that specifically typically that soon Nami story but also more generally a sense that as you said for these people For these characters anything could change at any moment. Anything could be lost that they're really building their lives on unsteady ground and and I wanted the title to speak to that that being said before I sold the book you know I was working in a long time and sometimes when I was working on the script meet someone they would say. Oh you know what's the name of the thing you're working on and I would say disappearing earth and they would say what I would say disappearing and they'd say sorry and I would think like I gotta find a better title you know I gotTa find like Lagaan girl I gotta find a really punchy girls gone girls that should have been but You know something. That's a little less poetic sounding a little more clear and and memorable I never found it. We sold sold the book we all at the Publishing House kept looking for a better title. We never found it disappearing earth what it's remained and still the other day said at some of these disappearing. Girth yes and I was like I wish I would have sold a lot more book. Julia Phillips thank you so much for joining me all the way here on the opposite opposite coast where you're from and listeners if you haven't read disappearing earth check it out it's so great thank you being here. Thank you so much And now more of your bad movie pitches written by Nancy Mary. Ann brought in the other town mistletoe. Mississippi the bills are getting ready to stage their annual crispus. The plans hit a snag. When the group's longtime long time set builder unexpectedly skips town but mistletoe still demands a show so Adele the Queen Belen Star Soprano dumps the the responsibilities of the shore to be disastrous production on Carol Julie Bowen Saga All to Light Alto seemingly hopeless Keiron Keiron serendipitous lease symbols upon local farmhand named Josie? Who reluctantly agrees to help? Build this year set a couple of weeks of hard work later later. The show is back on track. But on the eve of the premier caroline joe discover their new set has been mysteriously sabotage spoiler alert. It was a jealous now. Karen Joe All nighter to fix damage tempers run high together they stage the greatest is Christmas pageant and mistletoe history and build a connection that will last a lifetime that is hot and love to build a set with another hot lesbian. And welcome back. We're going to do something a little bit more fun with a look back on two thousand nineteen eighteen instead of talking about our favorite pieces of art and culture. We're GONNA talk about our favorite clapback because it feels like this year we pretty much perfected the art of the clapback especially when it comes to clapping back at the president. Oh Yeah let's talk a little bit about that. Who are your favorite it women who clapped back at the president in Twenty Nineteen Priyanka? Let's start with Oh excited about it. Yeah okay well I mean in my the first one I thought of is I feel like my favorite until someone at this table comes up with another one that I'm like nope. Never Mind but gratitude Berg sixteen years old old is just out here. Trolling this man. No Way and he like what he says to about. A kid is fucking crazy. especially I mean like. There's all this stuff about them getting upset when baron trump's names men shit like you know there's all of that It's ridiculous it's awful. It's super mature. I mean like what do you expect from this ban but The way she she doesn't get angry about issues makes it her twitter bio every time. I'm just like you know like happy. Young girl like whatever loves so. I don't know it's so funny. Yeah it just. Every single time is like old people. Why are you doing doing this? Fight with teens on the Internet like stop stupid. They will defeat you they will. They will ownership team. They rise up. The teens will defeat. I mean online. It's like trying to beat a Russian at chess like you can't beat the teams online now Yeah it's like trying to beat American women at soccer. You can't do it. The perfect segue okay. Because my favorite clap back Megara Piano Meghan repeat. Oh Oh he called her out for like a little viral video. That came around. Where reporter asked her like? Are you gonNa go to the White House when the World Cup. And she's like no not going to fucking White House I and he she said something back on twitter at her and then she scored two goals the next day and then they won the tournament and she was the mvp she was the golden boot which is like the most goals e score in tournament. Like the absolute best clapback. In my opinion Maghera Pino came to this office At World Cup at the beginning of the week the end of the week she came into office. I've never see like no one. Crooked media has never reacted this way to anybody. We are like all gathered around the door where like cheering. We're playing music. Like she walks in world dislike like standing there screaming like psycho fans. We've never done that for anybody. Who has walked been here ever kind of upset that I didn't know that little hurtful that me and getting that reaction when we walk in full but thank you for pointing out the DJ cal? Poly One guy. What else in an recently put up a video of her endorsing Elizabeth Warren for President and I got the World Cup feelings again where I was like me Ella g Oh my God it was like? Wow Oh my yeah. It was really good Karen do you have a favorite woman who sast back to the president. This year I liked. You changed the verbiage. It's almost like you could psychically feel me googling. clapback this what are we talking about. Can I nap up yet. think. AFC has done a very nice job in her take on facebook. I don't know if that's clapping back. It might might just be known as he's such a Dick to her and she does not shy away from it all she always she always comes back with something better than the thought like everyone. WHO's addict her? It's just like she always has the perfect like clapback like the degree to which the clapback goes. It's never like over the top. It's never like never falls flat. Yeah she nails it every single time. It's never over over the top. Like seen in Penn fifteen where there's a scene in Penn fifteen where like one of the girls is like yelling at. Oh boy she's like and your dad's Day. Oh that's right God your awful called his story so dumb bitch or something like that so fun. She doesn't right she never goes too far she goes g like yeah. It's the it's pitch perfect every time. I mean. Obviously she's great everything she does but like to do that is what scale. Well I was just thinking yesterday. About wind trump told the squad to go back to their own countries and all of them are from the whatever. I mean Ilhan Omar is the only member of the squad that wasn't born in the US but she's an American so who the fuck air anyway. So stupid yeah go back to where you came from Okay Minnesota. She did go back to Minnesota and people cheered for her people gathered in the out. They cheered so I love that. was that people from Minnesota Great. They're great for all the shitty things happened in two thousand nineteen. There were many positive things Totally they they had a press conference to clap back and the press conference them being super calm and collected and cool and on top of it as opposed to his like Elmer fudd style l.. Losing his mind they were sort of like bugs. Bunny ing it you know. They were just chill to and on their carrots and enjoying themselves around that time that that story was happening when the president as an and told them to go back I was holding a tote bag that said Hashtag. We won't go back in an elevator and a white dude was like. Yeah we want you here. And I'm like and just covered her face with both hands. The table discovered. They're like we wanna hear and I was like. I love confusing ally ship. That's here's is one of my favorite moments was when Donald Trump referred to Chrissy teigen. John Legend's filthy mouth. Just I was like Oh yeah the type of person that has. She's great. I feel like people who are totally out of line step to her. She is like good cracks or whereas in his leg. All right you want to do this. Let's do it But she seemed to really relish it was it was very funny. Awesome and great Also want to give a shoutout to share another person who claps back at the president. A Lot I Have A. I made a list share Susan Rice Kamala Harris who was the target of a lot of the president's hate this year. Who always had something I saw your list was just going to be a share club? I it was like she's going to make up for my dearth of pop culture now go to. WWW DOT twitter dot com and shares. Twitter is. It's really really really good domino. And the formatting of her always just so beautiful life all life oil check this out. It's pretty good Okay well that's all that happened in two thousand nineteen nineteen and that is all the time we have for the last episode of hysteria of two thousand nineteen. Thank you as always to Eliza Master Monico for calling in thanks to Kieran. TNN and young for joining me in the studio. Thanks to Julia Phillips for sitting down with me and for writing her incredible book and thanks to you the listeners. We love you guys. And we can't wait to make more show for you. In two thousand twenty hysteria is a product of crooked media. Carolina Reston is our producer user. Our editor is Sarah Barrett and Kyle is our sound engineer. Thank you Juliette. Beckstrand for production support and toward digital team Elijah cone and not enough Melconian when filming and editing video content. Every week you want to go cry Amami to step base in the cooking. Make me from the Momma. Get me some among never talk.