Toni Thomas: Growing up w a civil rights activist mother in the 60s, Toni talks about why 50+ years later we are fighting the same fight and how it must change or we will implode.


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Leith interviews availables audio podcasts, so listen to the Vlad TV podcast on iheartradio. APP APPLE PODCASTS, spotify or wherever you get your podcast. In. Just. No one. Is. So I'm really thrilled being here with Tony Thomas. He is my friend she's my neighbor. She is an incredible realtor in Nashville WanNa just give that shoutout to. Looking for Realtor, where can they find you Tony? Well on with parks, I'm on the east side and I can actually put up my information at the end of this so that everybody can get in touch with you need a house I specialize in our neighborhood, so it's perfect. Thank you need to realize that tiny. She's awesome in the east side is the best side that's where we live. Right now I just signed Tony before we started this interview, I really feel called to use my podcast to talk about what's going on in the world to be a part of the change to. Just, it's important me to use this platform as a tool for learning for everyone who listens and. Tell stories of amazing women, and their journeys, and so Tony Outages love to talk to you about your feelings about a dislike, your upbringing your life. How where you came from what you got from your experience now now the black lives matter movement being a black woman in Nashville in with everything going on all the cry for change in the world. What are your thoughts on everything? I would just love to hear your perspective. Well first of all, thank you for calling me. That means a lot It's taken me a couple of weeks to really sort out might feelings. It hit me a little harder than I thought it was gonna hit. To be quite honest and. I'm really I struggled with a lot of things I did really well with the Kobe. I thought I was doing great with that I did really well with what was going to happen in the real estate market. And I was. At a really. Peaceful easy. Moment in my life, and then this hit again and it hit me hard. It hit me really hard. I come from Philadelphia. that's born raised, so that was really a hotbed of racism in the north. My mother was a civil rights activists. Into the school with Coretta Scott King and Martin Luther. King last she was part of the whole movement. Yeah, and this was her. Her. So for all of this will again. It brought up everything it did. And, it brings up a lot of conflicting emotions. You know I'm to hear about those if you'd be willing to share. Sure well first of all the most important thing right now is is the dialogue that's been opened up and the conversation, and it's an awakening. Or to use a little bit of dialect, it's woke. Everybody's woke right now. And I think that's really what was needed. And that's probably the difference between now and the sixties I got to live a little card of the sixties, so and it was also in my household, so I grew up that way. I actually lived quite a privilege life. I went to private schools. I grew up in condominiums so a lot of things I didn't have the deal with directly, and I was having a conversation with a friend the other day. Another black successful woman and we both said that life it becomes so comfortable that we head almost become lazy. And didn't have to deal with a lot of things. And the fact of the matter is it's it's been there. It's always been there as much change as we thought we had. The bandaids been ripped off. And we have so far to go that at times. It's frightening. But I also have hoped with what's happening now. So, yeah, I think that's great, and I think the way that you started as through dialogue. You have to acknowledge I really. Do you have to call it what it is? You have to acknowledge it, and then everyone needs to accept their part of responsibility in carrying forward and how we're going to change it. Why we have to walk I agree what has come to the surface for you that you said you had. It felt like you had maybe become lazy. What has? What has resurfaced for you that maybe we all had been able to turn to turn night, blind eye to for a little while we'll I think one should get comfortable and you. You don't have to deal with the everyday things like I. Don't worry about whether going to have a roof over my head. I don't worry about where my next meal is coming from I. Go out. Nice spend ridiculous amounts of money on food because I think Oh. I'm going to do local shopping. I'm going to buy this certain lettuce and. I have these options so therefore it made me really lazy and thinking that this is not an everyday thing something that should be equal for everyone I've now taken for granted especially especially for the black community, and I'm not giving back enough and I'm not walking back and helping my fellow brother and sister, because that's really what it takes you have. You have to be an example and you have to act like an example and shame on me for not doing that. So I had a lot of guilt there. You know. I think we've all had. I think I've had a lot of guilt because I thought. Just being non-racist I didn't even know that I had I didn't even think about being on racist because I just am non-racist, that's just the way I live. My life never been a part of you. I am so I. In my mind. I'm like okay. We live in America and it's the best time to live in like everyone has equal opportunity like in my mind is just like I felt like. It was. One for all on offer one and I didn't realize it was all these layers happening that I was unaware of completely naive, and that's where I am sorry for not being more educated so. I feel like I am trying to educate myself. Have these conversations because like you said? We have to have dialogue and I feel it's been so. To talk about this because. Nobody wants to talk about it because it's just awkward. But. It's just like we've got gotta get over the awkward part in just talk about stuff in like. How can we all help you know? And I think it really does begin with. Offices individuals, and then it becomes teaching our children and then living our lives. Living by example, and then living it within the community, and then not tolerating it, and the biggest thing in the quickest change is going to be policy reform. Because this is systemic racism, which is for generation after generation after generation after hundreds of years or hundred years, plus this is been in doctrine. This has been ingrained, so we don't even realize this is how we. Will you know? We don't even. Will you explain to me from your good? If systemic racism because I, feel like that is the word that has bubbled up during all of this that all of us are like what what what systemic racism and now it's like being broken down. We're going to see. Like the all the all is coming to the top in your perspective. What is? Racism and how does it exist in our country? So I love that question? And before we started this I decided to look up. The word I decided to look up the word racist I decided to look up the word racism and I decided to look up systemic. Racism for some reason, it's OK or someone. To say racism, but when you say cyst that's like. Oh, no, but I. Not that but a racist is someone who practices racism. Simple as that. I mean it's really easy that there is no difference in that is the difference. One is the action of the other one is the person who does the action. And I think systemic racism that word. It's institutional racism, and that has to do with everything that has to do with the inequality of education the N. equality of power, the quit the inequality of transportation housing. Down to small things of food, if you look at a poor black neighborhoods, what are your food options? Your food options are dollar general. Where if you have ten dollars to feed your family? You're going to go out and you're going to buy food. For dollar. oodles of Noodles Cup of noodles things that have high sodium things that have all these additives in it, so guess what that feeds into that feeds into healthcare. There's an inequality in health hair. Most people aren't making enough money to afford healthcare. Now you're talking about now. You're in the poverty level now. You're talking about jobs. What's the greatest equalizer education? Education in poor black neighborhoods is equal to education an our neighborhood. You and I live in one of. A neighborhood, where we have one of the best grade schools where people are fighting to get into this grade school, and it's by ZIP code rather than being everybody should have access to the same equal and good education, so there's small things like that, and that's ingrained embedded in our society. And those are things that are changed through policy. Change the way our justice system. Our criminal justice system is gear is not geared to the black community. It is not geared to help to. Rehabilitate it is geared to lock up. Throw away the key and get it off the streets to deal with it anymore, not realizing that we have a big heart and responsibility in that. So there's there's all sorts of things such a massive problem because it's been going on for four hundred plus years. In Here's a great story on Saturday. I went to. The farmer's market. And I crossed over. The veteran spreads Korean. Veterans Bridge I forgot that I wanted to go to Germantown. Farmers Market, so I made a right bias, end and I went through a yellow light, but I started at the beginning of the yellow lights went to the light. It didn't turn red until after I went through an all the sudden I see lights. Go on behind me. And I was like Oh my God and instead of thinking I haven't done anything wrong and just pulled to the side and see what's wrong. I started going through the checklist. Because now I was driving while black, I was like okay. I need to slow down turn on his signal. Lack exactly turn on my signal. Put my hands on the wheel when I stop and I'm like I need to get my license do I. Get my license. After the police officer gets the window or do I. Get it. These are all the things that are going through my mind, and I was petrified petrified. And you know what happened. Police officer drove passing really. Wasn't meeting. And all the sudden I just started crying. Wow! because. For. The first time in a long time. Being black was dangerous for me. There was a fifty chance had I been stopped I could very easily wind up like any other black person. That has the news right now and I had not. That wasn't even. And I wasn't even stopped. And I really that just hit me so hard. And I went home devastated by that because I had had the privilege of not having to deal with that aspect of it in so long, and not even have that come up in my mind, but when it happened the first thing that went through my mind was only God. What are the steps at a black person does when they're stopped. That can't go on anymore. Yeah. That's intense, Tony but that's okay, but things like this talking about it, and what's going on so I think it's even than black lives matter you know. This is a problem for the black community, and this is about black people and I'm not saying there's not racism against other. Ethnicities, but right now we're talking about this right now. Exactly this is A. This is a war against black people, and it is black people that built this country. So the very people that built this country. We are attacking. And, you know that Ole saying that the head stood. The fish starts distinct from the head down, not the tail up. So we have to start with changing policies the way that we look at each other the way that we think of each other the way that we treat each other, and we have to treat each other with the same kind, kindness, the same passion, the same goal and the same dreams that we do our own children. Or else. I feel like a lot of people who are naive to what is going on in the systemic racism aspect of it. How deeply ingrained in our culture will say their argument by might be well? Everyone has equal opportunity to thrive and survive. This is America. Everyone gets the same chance everyone. Can become successful if they work hard in their heads down like everyone is, it gets the same opportunity because we're in America. I feel like that is a very quick response that someone could say. How do you respond to that? I respond to that by examples I. Saying is education. It became glaringly evident when we went through the quarantine and schools were shut down. Some schools were able to do it because guess what they have Internet. They had laptops, so they could teach kids at home. A lot of poorer neighborhoods and poorer schools number one didn't even have Internet. Let alone a laptop. There's a disparity right their. Education. Schools in certain areas that are black communities. They don't even have up to date books. And now let's talk about books in history. There's only so much history you're learning. You know so that great equalizer education. There's not even an opportunity for kids to get out with that. Institutionalized racism has lessened the value of many black families and children. Most a lot of black children don't expect to live past seventeen. And if they do who are their families, why would they aspire to be a C. E. O., when they can barely go to the store and maintain having three square meals a day. Where the transportation system, here's another institutional racism at example of institutional racism, so of we don't have a proper public transport system. Not Everybody has a car. There are buses that don't stop at certain places and the places that they don't stop or the places. It need it the most or the places where they do stop. The scheduled for it. Someone might have to wake up and start their journey at five o'clock in the morning just to get to a ten o'clock start date. There's so many things that hampered buying homes getting loans getting credit being taught financial responsibility, and these are all things that are at the core of it, and these are things that from generation to generation to generation have changed. That are still the same. There so redlining going on, you know I feel like someone. Say Again I'm just trying to for people listening who are going to have is reflexive. Comments to say back, someone might say. Why does a black male typically fear that he wouldn't live past seventeen? Like why is that? Would they would the? Would it be his fault that he is dying when he is seventeen link how someone might try to put it on the person whether instead of the culture that is happening. How do you respond to that? I think for so long. Black people have been made to feel less than. You're not worthy of. You know yeah. It's it's very evident when I walk into a room when I walk into a room. The first thing that walks into the room is my blackness. Am I proud of that absolutely? But when I walk into when you walk into the room, the first thing they see is a female. The, first thing they see when I walk in is black. And, then everything else falls underneath, and then whatever little programs you have in your mind whether you realize they're going offer not. Have, all the sudden been triggered. And now you're judging, may from that and the sad thing about it is that? Bad should be something a source of pride. That's should be something a Oh. There's a black woman coming in okay, and all we want is equality. That's it so it comes down to how we're precede. The way were perceived on the outside influences away. Way that you feel inside. Yes and I get it. People are like well your choice, you. Could you know you can do this? If you just put your head down, you can make it really. What are you going to get that job? How are you GonNa get that job when you show up in front of someone and there's one black person and thirteen white people. And you have someone who doesn't even realize that. The tapes are going on in the back of their head. Nine Times out of ten, they'll pick one of the thirteen light people. How are you going to compete when you haven't when you don't have the opportunity to have the same education as someone else has? When your qualifications only qualify you for up to this level. And you have to fight harder to get to the now. So I think it's all about equality here and levelling out. The you know the the game leveling out. The field. And that takes work on both sides, but really what needs to happen. This country has to change the way we. Treat black people. It's amazing that when you look at other countries in think apartheid. It's like Oh my God. Apartheid was so bad. I sometimes feel like going. What the Hell do you think is going on here? In this country in the world, we still practice in apartheid. It's just palatable now. So annotate. Have them anymore, but what we do, we segregated. To. Parts of town. Out Wide. Urban housing the way you have it. There's a reason for it. Okay. Let's put this all over here. Okay, and we don't have to deal with. And then what we'll do is your school. System is worse. Your healthcare is were worse. You have more crime mayor. There is no transportation. There's no way to get out. That's just another form of a plantation. That's all, but it doesn't mean it can't change and it doesn't mean that I'm not hopeful. I am because I think this is much different than other. Movements have been because I. Think there's. A larger consensus that seeing this and going well. Wait a minute. Is as happening. Yeah, so, how does this compare this movement? Compared to growing up in the sixties with your mother is an activist. I think they're more people involved with this I, think. They're more groups involved at this. And this has become a huge young movement. It's amazing. They are out there. It's almost like the baton was passed. You know and they understand this. I think the other thing that's changed is that. There's so much. You're able to see more. What's going on Yup Yup with you know we have televisions Yeah Yep. You can't hide it anymore Yup and you can't turn away from it so even if you don't want to deal with it, you're bombarded with twenty four seven, so I think social media's huge change in this within the others ID positive. Honestly, a lot of people say social media's a negative thing, but this. In this case, this is a positive because you can't escape it. You can't. Can't turn it off. You have to acknowledge this happened. Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't mean that you agree with everything that you're saying saying it doesn't mean that you agree with all of the media outlets, but media is there now, and it's in the forefront and I think that made a big difference. I really did because it makes it really hard to sit back and court. And it trigger. And then I think the other thing really is the generation that's really taken over this cost I'm. I'm really moved by how many people are affected by this? 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To Take that right that you have and don't let anyone stop you from doing it and go vote. You don't like what's going on both people out. You WanNa. Law Put into existence voted in. To realize that that one little bit of power. You do whatever you have to do to hold onto it and then execute that power. And be educated about what you want. What laws are? What's going on in your city? So be educated about what you're voting for who you're voting for. What's going on? What do you want done in your communities? What do you want done in your country? What do you want done for you and go out and vote for it and don't let anybody stop you go to a polling house. It's closed fine I'll go to the next one. You're not registered I need this complaint. If somebody's telling you. You can't use your driver's license. Go to a new station. Get them involved. Get the light shining on it, but you get out and you go vote and bats where you can make the change 'cause. At in at the end of the day. We can control. WHO's in office. And what we like and don't like. We even have the power to sit there and go. You know what I'm done with this I. Don't like what's going on now. We can fire you. You know so. I think that's a really big. That's how I would change it and really think about what needs to be changed. HOW DO YOU CHANGE INSTITUTIONAL RACISM? Well, there's. There's A. There's so many things that you have to change. It's not even funny if you want to change about education. Work on changing laws about how your property taxes are used to pay for education. A reason that where we live, we have a great school. The property taxes that we pay. There's a reason why I'm. Bell me. You have great public schools. The property taxes they pay will. Maybe we need to start working on property? Taxes aren't just for that neighborhood. There's a pool where it's divided. And that's the way it works. Maybe we need to think about that, but that's all about voting and that's all about policy reform. Talk to me about Voter Suppression, Hal Hal. Is that still a thing? Yeah it! Isn't that amazing? So, what are the qualifications that you need in order to vote? You and I it's easy, I just take my driver's license, and I go in you now. I, take it if I didn't have my driver's license I'd take. My birth certificate I'd registered abode. I know how to do all this. What if you don't have a driver's license? Out people who don't have mailboxes what about people who don't have regular addresses? Poor people don't live like everybody else lives. You know it's a lot harder to communicate with them. I think he does have if you don't have a license and if you don't have an address really. then. You. You're out. Yeah, and why do you not have the right to vote? Just because you don't have a driver's license? Just because you don't have an address, just because you might have a Po box, you might be homeless. Does that mean that I don't have a right to vote? Or who I want an office, there are other suppression tactics that are done. How about long lines? About things like that. How about people can't afford to take off to go vote? And now you want to get rid of mail in ballots. How about people can't make it to Opole. They're all sorts of subtle boaters suppressions, but it's our job as a community as humans to make sure that we get information out there, and that's how go media. That's how mainstream media that's how the news reading things talking to people. GO KNOCK ON! Your neighbor's store. Asked them if they need a ride to go vote. So, yeah, and yes, it still goes on. That was evidenced in Georgia you know when they were shutting down and people and people don't realize that's a pression that goes on all over. So what's really interesting? Is that black? His story is taken out and it's it's separated. Lack history is in black history lack history. Is American history? American history as much of every. It's in those history books that we're teaching our kids. Half of that book should be filled up by lack history, because black history is American history without black history. We wouldn't have in America and it starts with the kidnapping. Of millions of black people, and then brought to this country, and in late start the history there was the Trans Atlantic slave trade. They brought them to this country. Of the slaves, the black people that made it, they were then enslaved in this country. When slavery was abolished. It then took two and a half more years for certain states to even adhere to that and once black people were given property, because the value of a man was equal to the property that you own or the fact that you could even own property. And that was one of the laws. When you were a slave, you were not allowed to own property. Because basically you work a human being. And even when those laws were changed, there was only so much you. The black man was only given a little bit of property. And guess with that said that said you're not quite human. Yeah, so you can't have all this property. And that's the mentality that has gone from decade to decade to decade to decade. That's always been underlying. You're not human, so you don't deserve this, so you can be treated like that. Your property. That's why I think they just did a statistic about how much property black America owns. And it might be seven percent. Either seven or thirteen percent, how the hell do you go with one group of people only owing owning seven to thirteen percent of the property in the United States of America? Where's your value there? Where's your power? So it's an interesting thing. The Look at there's a lot to saul. But like I said I am hopeful because I think. It all starts by the dialogue it all starts bike knowledgeable, and then it all starts by doing what we can do. Recognizing needs to be changed and then change it like a can't stop now. So this is good what you're doing here. Law I appreciate it I feel completely. Nervous like I'm fumbling through this because it's such a big topic and I. Respect the heading of it so much don't WanNa misstep and I don't want to say something, stupid or wrong or ignorant, but like I was talking to my friend tomorrow. She's like you're gonNA. Probably say something stupid. You're probably GONNA. Say Ignorant, but the point is just to start talking, and that's why it's so important to me to talk to my incredible black friends in. In particular right now at this moment in time, because I want to hear your perspective and I want to hear your voice in your thought on it to broaden my mind into broaden anyone's mind. Who's listening to this just so we can get comfortable talking about this in talking about. How can we make changes in our daily lives up to help? Push this movement forward. I think that's a great way to look at it and I love the other part about being messy, so there's that saying that success is messy. It is a what. Ya I don't mind the mess. Don't. And you actually the conversation that you have with your other friend, my friend Mickey Guidon was part of that, and she has been pushing for this for a long time. Being a black woman in the country music scene in wind, she started and having a break into it, and then having the take back. What's hers and make sure this is Her story? Her truth I think is brilliant and I love what she's doing. Mickey has been a voice, a powerful voice for as long as she like you said has been in the country music industry, and she never has quieted herself, and she's never been scared to speak out and I am. So. Just. Amaze in excited to see where her voice will continue to go, because I really do think she's being poised as a leader in country music right now, and she has a message, and she has a powerful song black like me out, and she's acting in love, and she showing us an example of how we can. Bridge this gap just like you are just like Amara is just like all of these incredible black men and women are, but now it's like like you said. All of us need to be a part of movement. We all need to be a part of it. It's going to take us all just to change the way with think or have been. Deep little things dislike you said embedded in us that we don't even realize we need to reprogram ourselves because we just need all of us to be part of this. Yes and we need to be honest with ourselves. We need to be honest with ourselves. It's not pretty. It really isn't and nobody wants to sit back and know that. They've had a part in this I. Don't WanNa sit back and know that I've had a part of this especially with my mother being such. She was an activist. I don't WanNa sit back. I have my own little triggers. Of Racism. You know how I'd view. Other black people. I didn't think I had racism going on, but I do I can't lie. There have been moments when I walked down the street and advice safe. Four young black men walking down one sided the street dress one way, and I see four non black men walking down. The street dressed the same way. What is my mind say? The street is safer to walk on. And I have to be honest. What is my answer? I don't know now. My answer might be different. But there have been times when that's. The point asks. The good point is to like realize why we feel that way. Why have we? Why did we have those thoughts in her head in? How can we change it? Yes? And that's what I mean by. Everyone has to be honest. And I think that's why it took me the two weeks like really shook me up. I was like what part by played in this has my silence play a part in? It has my being so wrapped up in my life, and not thinking about anything else paid a part of it. Have I not paid my dues? I not been doing what I'm supposed to do. A lot of the answers to that. Was Yes. and. That was a day of reckoning So. What has changed in you since that day. A MORE AWARE More responsible. For how I navigate. And goes to this life and more intentional, and I'm speaking out if I hear something. That's not right. There might have been a moment where I would have been like. You know I'll just shake my head and walk around like YEP now. Sorry. Not GonNa. Let that go by and as a matter of fact, I'm GonNa take the. I'm sorry out of that exactly exactly and it's all true. Exactly. I'm not sorry. It's also discussing it to. Like sometimes, your first reaction is to be angry. And just to shut down and be angry. I'm learning to be still for a moment. Absorb it. And then start the dialogue. That's that's really that's a mad changes. At big of you Tony because it is easy to WANNA. Be Angry, but it's so powerful when you can actually calmly explain. Your perspective, people listen you know, will you? They acted like they listen more. Yeah I think the anger the attention. Yeah, but you have to be something after that now once the anger gets the tension. How are you going to hold the attention? And how are you going to make a change and that's listening? On both sides going back and forth because I believe a lot of this comes out of ignorance. You know an old habits that have just been pass down. Yep Tapes. We all have to excuse. To thing in the world, it's not being intentional checking our own selves in. That's where I feel like we all need to be like okay. What are my beliefs? What do I stand for? How do I WANNA? Be Part of this, not just like what I've. Grown up in order experience that I've just happened to be in like. I'm actually got to take accountability for myself and I. Think everyone has to do that. Take Accountability for yourself in. Do you hold beliefs? Examine them. Clearing Out Then if they need. Clear them out. And it's hard work. It is hard work and it's the work. But guess what that's. What change is all about and most of all? It's messy. Really riggan messy yet, but that's okay, but out of mass comes something better. So we have to go through all of this message this because it's been four hundred plus years of Mess GonNa be Messy. It's GONNA be Maffei. But this is a way of cleaning up. This is a way of realizing what's going on for both you and me and our community. It is it's a great awakening I feel it. I feel like the twenty twenty has been a year of the awakening like it is like. God The universe. A higher power is like okay. You're go into it all. We're going to go Pilaniya liars back and. It's time to deal with some stuff. I like to say, it's like you know when you're on a train. If you pull that terrain, stop and the whole thing comes to a screeching halt yet. That's exactly what happened in the world, but it happened globally in the whole narrowed has come to a screeching stop. In it's like hanging out. Is the giving I guess it's giving the world a chance to bring up these issues that addressed. It's. It's almost like the whole world stopped and not only that, but now it's not just the emperor has no clothes. No one has been close. Everybody's been stripped down. Yes, and it's ugly. It's ugly, but that's okay. It's ugly and it's messy, but we gotta get through this or else. I truly believe that the other differences is we don't solve this. We are going to employ. This is the last chance for the chained. If! It doesn't happen. I! Don't know what's going to be. Left afterwards, we will implode. That's so interesting. As. It has to be addressed like yeah. It, can't we don't have a choice now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, that's big! That's really. That's a great point that's hit. May and we have to end the messes everything. So what I said was so this is. Physical disease, moral disease, spiritual disease, every kind of disease possible if we do not take care of this. That's the implosion. Because it's everything. Wow physical more. Spiritual Health. Yeah wow it's. But that includes everything social disease everything our environment environmental disease. It's all come to full head at the same time and guess what we don't have a choice. So. It's heavy. It's heavy. It's heavier living through. We are living through a moment. That will mark history right now. And I pray English Shift Yup. We're in the shift and they're only. They're only been a couple of shifts throughout the world and the world's history. When are you just happen to be in the middle? What role I think you had one. I think you had one from even if you want to go back to biblical times. You've had a shift from the Romans. Okay, then you go to diseases, you've had the black plague, which shut down the whole world. Okay, then you've had wars. That shut down the whole world I. Don't know that we've had so many things, said The Globe. It's actually been able to stop the globe. And I think that's what we're in now, and that's one of those major shifts that changes everything. We had a period where we went from the Ice Age. Into this age. And I do believe that there's a time when. The Earth has to change. And there's gotTa be another shift on the access, and that's what we're in the middle of, and that's why it is so difficult, and that's why so many things are happening, and that's why if we do not do what we're supposed to do because that is part of the shift. We won't have anything left to change. You know so. There's just there's no choice now to let's get to work. that's exactly what it is. Isn't even about me anymore. This is about the next generation. It's coming up. And the one after that and after that. What is the new World GonNA look like? What is your hope for the new world? Well! That's a big question. Obviously quality, but I'd really like to see. Humankind. I really would. and. I'd like to see an evolution of the spirit. And I'm not talking login or anything else. Justin evolution of the spirit I think. It's time for man to evolve again. It's our obligation. It's our path. It's our process so what I'd really like to see. Isn't evolution. Of A more developed spirit. Because I think we've been in the NEOM yet. We've been in Louisiana Ortho stage bomb. More just compassion more awareness airforce. Is that what you mean by that? Yeah I mean well I. Mean a Evolution of your spirit. That there's growth that happens that the spirit is more than just you me, and you know my dog, my child, my mom, my dad, the spirit is the collectiveness of everything. That needs to change. That needs to evolve. What is your spirit? What do we? How do we navigate life? Have we live light? What A WE LE- life! What are we giving back? It's their spirit. Because that remains the body goes. The spirit stays, and that's evidence by all of the tapes that we still live. It is our obligation to evolve as spirit and take care of our world. Take care of each up. There take care of ourselves. Honor yourself is. You're so smart. I'm just old. I like to. Soul. I really really appreciate you coming on here and having such a thoughtful dot invoking conversation with me and my listeners, thank you for. Letting me have this conversation I like I, said floor. It's awkward to have these conversations, but it has happened in I'm just past the point of feeling awkward about it anymore. I JUST WANNA. Get in there and talk about it, so I appreciate you coming on I always end my interviews lear light. And what do you want people to know? Well that's that's a great question. That we all feel pain. And we're all here. To convert that pain, we're off to comfort that pain. All feel thing the world the world is full of. So much pain! It's hard to bear. But that you're right, we're all hearing comfort each other's pain, so let's start viewing each other as real brothers and sisters, and not putting up all. Over the place in work as a big. Group effort. Let's be a better team as a humanity. Yeah, let's. Let's just be better. Yeah. I love, I know. My last spot is at my Angelo has one of my favorite sayings. And she says you do better when you know better. I love that saying. One of my favorite sayings him. So let's know better do better. I love that Tony. Thank you I wanNA. Thank you for and I. Really do this meant a lot. Oh, it did and I so appreciate. It Means You come on here and talk to me about this I really appreciate you so mutual admiration club. I love you. I love your heart. Is Conversation and I don't want to end the conversation without telling everyone where to go beneath realtor in national, so drops your Info and then I'll put it in the in my tag as well, but where can people find you? Find You at Tony? Thomas, realtor, so you smell it out. C. N. I. T. H., no Mis Rios Her R. E. A. L.. I. T. O. R. E. R.. At G., mail okay. Or. Call me at nine, four, nine, six, three, three, eight, six, five, eight. Okay, awesome. Yes, thank you so much for joining new friends and. I know that beautiful baby and your beautiful husband I so appreciate you and I love you to the moon in bath right back at you. Thank you so much much loved you Tony Thank you bye I. Young world, the world's edge zoos I AC- the producer of the. Show podcast featuring meant other than myself. Pockets PIPPI keeping you in the know with the latest. He'll fair, but celebrities, current events and providing pre game. Join the top of the town because it's going down the baller Marshall podcast. 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