106: Activating Wonder & Fascination in Learning with Danica McKellar


Welcome quick, brain bite-size, brain hacks for busy people who wanna learn faster and achieve more. I'm your coach Jim quick three. Listen. Listen, imagine if we could access one hundred percent about brains capacitation, I wasn't high was wired just clear I knew what I needed to do. And how to cook food? Showman. Welcome back, quick brain. So here's a question today. How do you add more wonder and fascination into your learning and into your life? He heard me say many times that all learning is state dependent that the state that you're in is so important when you listen to a podcast or you read a book or you go to a class or seminar because that information gets tagged in king really combined with that information. That emotion helps you to remember it and recall it, and I'm really excited about talking to you today because we're gonna talk about the power of wonder the power of play some really excited to have danika mckellar here. And we mentioned that name many of you automatically you think about wonder years, and I'm such a big fan when he Cooper and growing up in that time, and but many people don't know, she's a math whiz and my say math. Some people are like love math or some people not such big fans of math. And she's also New York Times bestselling author of a series of. Math books, which I'm really excited to be able to share with our community Tenneco, thanks for being here. Thank you. I thought you were going to mention the word wonder one more time in there. Just just to help prep people for what was coming with the wonder years for those of you watching on video has paid of wonder wonder. I just met Jim for the first time in person. And I'm looking at a shirt thinking. Yeah. I know. I know what that's about it is coming. But this is I think it's one of the most important conversations because I feel like when people have subjects that are interested in whether it's math or something else that if they don't have a deep interest in it or positive association to it, then they're not really going to engage in it. They're not going to learn it really well opposite of not having a positive engagement is actually actively having a negative association with. Jack and math. Unfortunately, has a really bad rap math has this reputation of being too hard to boring too scary offers of things, and that's actually what inspired me to. I write math books over ten years ago. Now with math doesn't suck. Because I couldn't believe after I got my degree in mathematics. How many people say we what why would you study math? You're an actress what are you doing with your life, which is kinda funny? And so I realized I was stunned especially women would balk at it. And tell me people like confess to me men and women confess, suddenly I couldn't do math where I was okay. At math while but then there's this one test or this one teacher this one experience. There was this one point in my life. Afterwards. I couldn't do it anymore. Now is it not to me? There's a coincidence that that story keeps happening again. And again and being told to me again, and again, and I believe that it is because of a preconception of the subject because if you tell yourself you're not going to be good at something and then doing fine during find your just waiting fat piece of evidence to put the nail in the coffin. You already had set up for yourself. So if somebody is optimism about something like math or anything difficult, then when you hit a stumbling block, you will tend to see it as temporary stumbling block. But if you believe that it wasn't meant for you. Then when you hit that stumbling block in math or anything if you have that one test that you failed or the one teacher that you couldn't understand or that one experience that one class that will instead of seeming like a temporary obstacle. It will feel like evidence of what you've known deep down all along. Which is that you don't belong in math. And I think this has plagued more women than men, but it plagues everyone because of the reputation that our society has created for math. We think of math is something. That's just for nerds. Just for boys just for people who don't have socialized and couldn't be farther from the truth. Which is why STAN from the rooftops any chance I get to talk about the benefits of matters. Anybody can we go to math? If you put your mind to it. So math is cool. It's sexy. V A can also be boring and horrible. It really depends on the way it's presented when I was in the seventh grade I had a mass teacher that I just didn't understand. I'll come home and cry. You're naturally good at math. I was in some ways. But I wasn't a genius people. Like to say that. I'm not sure why. But it's not true. I mean, I was a hard worker, and I love the good challenge. But in seventh grade, I had a teacher that I didn't understand it on. I thought it was me students and anyone listening who had a math teacher a math class that they felt really stupid and can probably relate you never as the student imagined that it's the teacher's fault. You assume it's your fault. You assume that you just don't get it why because MAC has this reputation of being so hard, and when your child teachers are an authority figure kind of. Like your parents when you're young enough. You think they know everything being apparent myself? I know that that's not true. But at the time, I didn't know that it was the teacher, midway through the Uber. Got a new teacher and suddenly the same exact topics that he completely confounded me may says, and we're fun. And you know, what she did she made it fun. Like you're talking about having an emotional attachments. It's like a fun emotion in your brain tags your experience with that emotion. Yes. She would talk about functions like they were sausage factories input into value for x and then the function does something to the sausage factory. I it will slice it up. And then it'll squish it together put it in Vining or whatever does. And depending on what ex- you put in you'll get a different sausage. But the factories doing the same thing. So she taught us functions that way, and it was so fun, and it gives you these associations in these pictures in your head. And so I took that same philosophy. And that's what I've written my entire mckellar math line about to help people. Not have that stigma attached to it to shake it off. You know, I use a lot of humor cartoons. Whatever I have two funny stories because I from firsthand know, the difference that the way math is presented will tell your brain how to view it. And how while you're going to absorb it. Because a good teacher makes a big difference can make all the difference. Hurry. We did an episode where I taught people how to memorize para table without realizing it using creative imagination stories. I love that. That's when you use more of that right brain devices road. Yeah. It's fun thing. Something visual something funny. All those things so do not open. This math book is one of my more reason bugs is for ages six to eight and you can tell from the title do not over this math book. I've got an eight year old, and I know that reverse psychology it works. So it's full of comic strips in funny things, and I teach place value, which is a really important concept for that age. And Mr. mouse is always giving my little danika hard time about things, and it's just a fun dynamic who doesn't wanna learn math from cartoon strips. You know, why didn't I get to learn math? I was going through your books. I was thinking why weren't these available in school, right? They've been teaching the same way sometimes over and over again through repetition and people don't have relevancy of how they could use it towards things which well, and look they did change math recently. But not in a way that most people seem to like very much. It's called common core. Common. Core. Math. And that's actually part of why I wrote Jen open this math book because I had parents telling me, I can't help my six and seven year old with their homework because I don't recognize it. What is going on? This is addition this is how could it be so different and they call everything different. They don't have the same names as not carrying and borrowing regrouping in grouping, and it's just different in the break things down. And I do see some benefit to common core. I really do. I just feel like maybe it was a little overdone. So I even have a new math translation guide for grownups in the back of this one because too much of it just looks different using different vocabulary. Let's try to make things fun for both the students, and the parents, you know, what? As a parent. I love being a parent. You wanna be your child's superhero you want to save the day? You want to have the answers for them and help them get to the next place. And so I'm really excited that has Sony. Parents told me that they love reading this book with their little ones in the cartoons together and making things clearer could highly recommend the books also for that inner child inside of us. He's a little bit of healing along the way we were traumatized because we had to go to as a kid to the blackboard with our chalk and all the problem, and we'd into a well, we have feared numbers ever since seventh grade class and the teacher that didn't make sense to me. I remember this test, and like it looked so foreign I studied so hard, and you feeling in the back of your neck when the hair is kind of glove on that you get a hot, and you just wanna die. You just don't wanna be there somewhere anywhere else. But right here right now when that Matt has handed you, and you don't feel when you're describing it all. And I know people are listening. Going back. Literally going back to that place. The first forgave gave remote math doesn't suck. That's the book that a lot of adults will literally go back and does us just to face those old demons percents, and it's decimals, and it's fractions things that come up into the real world, which also happens to be very practical. And I've had a lot of parents, Tommy and not just parents. But just adults who don't even have kids will say, you know, I got your book. And I feel so much better because I was surprised at bath. And I didn't want to take that to the grave, basically, we're we're talking about fascination and wonder and enthusiasm for things I tell people that these aren't things that you have these are things that we do. And so people wake up and say, oh, I hope I have motivation or have focused creativity today. But then we're on like defense, you know, hope is not a really great strategy. But if you take it and say that these are things you have these are things that you do like their verbs. You don't have focus. You do focus. You don't have creativity you do creativity. And even this conversation. We're having about wonder he don't have wonder you could actually do wonder you could add visualization. You could add stories you get out metaphors, and you can add games. And all the sudden, it becomes much more empowering, whether you're an adult or a child if you're a trainer, and you have a team of people, and you wanna make you more engaging and you want to get them into a literally wonder filled state. You could add these elements that are much more, immagination and creativity and trout. Deji that just make it fun when I wrote methods like which is free sixth grade is that I want it to feel like kindergarten because no matter how old you are. When you learn something you want it to feel like you sound like a game like something fun. I don't know. I'm not as well versed in parts of the rain. Is you are. But I noted engages a different part of your brain. When you feel like you're having fun while you're learning. It's just different the whole experience, it'd be more different. And yet you're still learning and you're motivated to do it also. And I think a lot of people forget the things that he learned in school because they learned it in a board state. If it's information times emotion become the long term memory if the motion level zero anything time zero becomes zero. And then you wonder why you forget the president's or the periodic table or all these things, but you're saying that even students even if the teacher's not teaching which would be wonderful. They taught the way you prefer to learn that they could use their imagination and creativity and turn things into a game and entertain themselves. These teachers are so overworked, and they don't have the time or the resources some people actually use my books for that. And so of any teachers listening tons of fun tips in little stories and things you can integrate into your classroom just to keep the kids awake alive. My mother's a school teacher, she became a schoolteacher because she didn't know what helped me with my during challenges, but we sent copies of your books to my nieces and my nephews. And so there are loving them. So. I played here. Here says exciting, so how do people find out more? We've had this conversation about wonder, and I think a great next step is for people to get the books. So they could get it on was on Amazon and Barnes novel dot com. And if you just want to see what all the books are in gonna mckellar math dot com, and you'll see the mother mckellar spelled with a are at the end basing challenge. Everybody to take screen shot at this video or this podcast episode antagonise both in it. And then one of the ways of learning things fasters teach to other people. So if you take us nap shot of it Taegu's, both and share and teach everybody in your community. Your big aha, like your big takeaway from this conversation as always I riposte some of my favorite, and actually maybe I'll be able to persuade you to sign these books, and maybe we could give away copies to some of our favorite posts. We've got books ages zero to sixteen so depending on your kids age amazing. For six years older. Sixty six years old math doesn't suck or kiss. My math or stew. Yeah. Thank you. Want to double your brain speed and memory power if you'd like to learn rapidly and get ahead faster. I'd like to give you my brand new quick brain exceleron program. You will discover exactly what I teach my clients to learn read and remember anything in half the time. There is no charge is my gift to you for being one of our subscribers. That's K W. I K brain dot com or simply text the word podcasts. Two nine one six eight to two seventy two forty six and we'll send you a directly nine one six. 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