Side Stories: The Ted Bundy Tapes
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Pack your banana hammock and your quarter gun tropical cocktails premier sped ury. I at midnight on a dull swim. That's tropical cocktails premiering February first at midnight on a dull swim. No place to escape tunes. The loss casts on the left side stories. Glue cannibalism started. Doors. In the saddle back in the saddle back in the saddle there. Marcus's voice. I tell you what I'm going to ask you, boys. This because I feel like we have talked about this maybe hammered and in private, but I'd love to just put it on blast. I mean to be fair we could have been hammered and in public. This is true. But I always consider us in a cone of silence. Maybe that's bad. It is I've had to chastise you for multiple times. Right. Right. Right. I'm a natural born entertainer, and I was trained to speak from the diaphragm. But I I was at a urinal recently. And I went to an look we're going to the bathroom. You're not are you going to the bathroom or you just at a journal? No, I wasn't reviewing urinals by look and tastes using. But I walked at aathroom Alice a little Niba rated and I'm grieving sitting there. Okay. I cannot believe in using Kevin's death or whatever you're about to use it for right now. And I'm grieving, okay? I went, and I was like, you know, really pushing out some because I hate the thing where it's like you go multiple times. Whatever the, you know, our our tubes are getting worse and worse as we get older. I'm pushing him pissing. And I just sit there I had a fart, and I thought about it being like, well, I mean, I'm in the bathroom swat, just let it go. Just standing there with a bunch of people next to me. And I gotta look this guy. Like looked at me. And I was like this is the bathroom. I feel like if there is a place where I can fart openly it very here. Well, the real that's a milestone, congratulations in rear officially an old man that, you know, one of those people we would go to the bathroom and be like hope none of those are in here. You are the one that no one wants to see the urinal hope I don't have a forty old fucker sitting right next to me when I go pissed today. Yup. Rather sit by Larry Craig in an airport bathroom. Oh. So that's why that guy who looked like his name was Ralph came and clap me on the back. I was welcome to a club. You are. Welcome to it. Welcome to the show, everyone this at sides. This is. Stories. I'm Ben Kissel, Marcus parks is joining us today low we've untethered him from his desk and given his fingers a small break. Let me see are. They calloused enough. They are calloused very good continue to work. And of course, we're able grape Scotties at the end of year. And of course, Henry's browse ski. So we've got a lot of fun stories to get to the word. But I want to say philosophically. I think I'm correct, right. You can find it a urinal. Yeah. Of course, you can fire to your, and I think the I kinda like it when people fired a urinal. It's funny. It kind of gives it a little bit of levity to the whole situation. If if what is it Robert Robert Durst can confess to murdering two people at a urinal you can fart at the year. Don't even worry about it. Or is that Robert Durst? No, Robert dirt. Susan, Lynn biscuit. Durst. I give my Durst Saul confused. We have a lot of stories that involve murderous women today, just just coincidentally, but that is brave of women. And I know we've said this before when we talk about it when did Eileen worn. Awesome. We've talked about it. We did the other the female Syracuse episode being like take the helm get up. There. Sturt murdering where people if you want an equal place in society. Well, I don't think that that's the way to take that. But it's okay. That's the exact wrong lesson. They're here. All is that you look at my lessons on life. And then you do the opposite. That's how that's how we talk. That's going to do is because he listened to the show, but there's a couple of people professionally I reach out to just to see what they say. So you could do the opposite. All right. Well, first of all we're going to talk a little bit about this docu series that just Deb built on Netflix. It's only four episodes not very long, you can kind of cruise on through it Henry and I finished it yesterday. And I think Mark it's got a couple of Epsilon. It's confessions of a killer, the Ted Bundy tapes, and I just want to have a little round table here. Get everyone's thoughts number one. I've got thoughts. My number one thought is he is George W Bush. They look the exact same. Yeah. Exact- save you remember when we did the the Bundy episodes, so many years ago, but way way way before we had any fucking clue what we were doing. We ended the episode with the conspiracy that George W Bush and Ted Bundy or the exact same person. And I think what they said happened. I think someone said that they switched him back. Four right before Ted Bundy like because there was a Ted Bundy. And there was George W Bush and Ted Bundy the real Ted Bundy was like good do like he was fine. He went to all that like he was a good Republican. But I think he got I think what was like he got mixed up with the Republicans when he was working in politics. And they know it's like my God that guy looks just like a little W Bush, and so when Bush started fucking up they switched him. Yeah. And so Ted Bundy went down, but George W Bush went free. All right. Well, one got lay have residency because of Florida and one got elected to heaven. I'm going to say, I may say hill, I'm gonna see the same kind of flappy little smile and one thing that it hit me about this documentaries number one. Netflix feel is doing the very classic thing. Which is I feel like we kind of sprouted out of like as a reaction to of in some weird way the series does feel like I'm supposed to root for Bundy making him sound, very very impressive keys, the most unstoppable monster that every will ever was. And I do understand that he is obviously a very dangerous person talked about this before us probably one of the dangerous most dangerous people to ever exist. Oh at the same time the way they lauded his attention the way the lauded his ability to evade police and to do his fucking Machiavelli and deeds. It's it was like we're supposed to be horny for it. Like right opposed to watch this thing and be so scared of him and he cooked every cop that he was around where they let him take over the whole show. And I feel like Ted Bundy is in another realm right now jerk. Off at how fucking scared everyone is because of this Documenta in the things about this documentary is that it's really no it's it is an a in the serial killer docu show, wrapped up in a really pretty package because it's beautiful because it's dumb, but well done it's done the same guy who did the paradise lost trilogy. Right. These guys know what the fuck are doing. They know how to and that's why it's somewhat disappointing. How much they glorify this guy. Or how scary herb it. It really that's kind of what pisses me up because it's one of the things we've been fighting against the show for so long is, you know, making him such boogeyman like, here's here's the boogeyman be afraid of the boogeyman keep watching so you can be more frayed of the boogeyman, and it's a beautiful. It's a beautifully done documentary like all the archival footage and all the quick shots. And all the cool. It's really cool. It's very well. They tell you really well, the build up really really, well, I didn't the build up was great like, for example, when he was working on the, Dan. Evans campaign. No idea who the hell this guy is now, you know. It was interesting. I didn't realize how well liked. He was he was doing fairly well politics and his I oh, it was interesting. He built for politics kessel. Unfortunately, when you're out there in the world mixing with these politicians half of them got fucking bodies in their base and half them jerking off just thinking about if they did. I mean who knows what? I mean who knows what's happening to the bathrooms at News Corp. But it's interesting because they interviewed his buddy. And I forget his name. Now he's much older now. But it basically was the dude who got Bundy into politics, and it was the guy who had he had a beige Volkswagen that guy like she and put the whole thing seemed interesting to me because that was Donald that's that's who Ted Bundy was emulated Bundy wanted to be or at least it was like that's a person that's respected or thought that was interesting in that guy loved tell them that story is like, you know, Fundy he got the idea for the Volkswagen pugs from me. We'll all like that. Don't all fucking like that that sheriff from Tallahassee that that whole rundown of that guy is cream in his jeans trying to talk about how dangerous Ted Bundy wasn't that ma- the incredible work that I did were they just mopped up. Everybody else's fucking fuck ups essentially by the end, they did good cop work by tracking him down. But still right whatever one thing, I will say. I'll take back for also Ted. I take away from this series to Ted Bundy is not even attract enough to be an actor. He's really not that attractive. I don't know. I mean, if you look at the the do that that picture the courtroom picture where they do the sketch where they went. But when they were looking for him when he was just Ted when they were looking for him. And you realize like, oh, it's true. They all mentioned that he had one eye higher than the other and one was closer to his nose. And when you see the picture he'll just like that police sketch, and you're like, oh, wow. I can never see him the same ever again that focus up on his eyes boat being fucking on even he looks all fucked up. But you know, I will say he does have a chameleon like face, and that's why he was able to just turn his hair ever, so different. And everyone's like who is that new guy in town. And it'd be like it's the same guy from yesterday. Well, that was the big thing with Ted bundy's that all of the sketches looked wildly different from each other. You know, people that saw him on the same day even gave different sketches of Ted Bundy, right? And even. But that's the thing is that when the sketches started coming out after the girls disappeared from lake sammamish. So ma'am, ma'am, lake semantics when he kidnapped and killed two women and one day, his friends, we're looking at the sketch and the paper, and that's the thing is that like it will it said this guys named Ted Wright, here's his sketch. He drives a Volkswagen bug and all of his friends were like, oh, it's like you jed, right? And you have a full swing. Volkswagon bug looks like you. But the funny funny. So over taken by who was because I mean, really, it is he was horrified charming like he was able to fool people like over and over and over. I mean, he always able to convince people he had a he had a problem with a yacht on dry land. Yeah. But but the worst, but really the worst part of of the the docu series, and you know, and I didn't get to to see the whole thing. But Anne who is my research assistant for the book. She sent me an article last night that said that they don't talk about any of the murders in any detail whatsoever. No, the no do they jump around the time line quite a bit. Yeah. They again, but they mostly stress to be honest. How good he was it serial killing thing about the documentary that I don't I understand. But I don't particularly enjoy because it's there they are very impressed by his process, but I want again punch. When the beginning all Dhaka series shows that I mean, the reason why became zero killer like we learned with Mark Mitchell likely talking about with fucking Dr Mangla, and then it comes from very intense mediocrity comes from somebody who literally cannot do he could not make friends he couldn't fit into society. He was sort of good in politics, which does I guess take somebody who is a hollow shell of a human being yet. A lot of mediocrity. Yes. That's not a bad thing to have yet to be a Republican in the late seventies early eighties. Definitely takes a fair amount of media or at least early to mid seventies. Takes a lot of mediocrity. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, obviously he did get into law school, but it was a small school. He didn't get any of the steam that he wanted he had this version of himself that was just grander than who he was. He was really insecure about not having money, and he was such a he's lazy. And that's what he wanted to leapfrog hard work by Marion really wealthy women or he was attracted to wealthy women glassy women. But then he was be like, but I can't date them because they don't have. Enough money. So that it was this really vicious cycle of wanting to be in a class that he wasn't in. But didn't have the work ethic to then get there the right way. And speaking of you know, marrying wealthy into speaking of the the woman that was supposedly the what does it the victim prototype who was known for years as a Stephanie Brooks? I don't I didn't think anyone actually knew who she was before this like, it seems like this documentary blew the lid off this woman's fucking life and showed her name showed her picture, you know, because Stephanie Brooks was the name that and ruled used in the stranger beside me, and you know, as far as I know people use the name Stephanie Brooks for years and years and years because this woman has no there's no reason for her to be involved in this. And she's a victim. Just like. Yeah. She I mean, she I mean to hurt had bunnies. Bad ex boyfriend. You know, there's no reason I it seemed classless to me to just say like here's this woman's first and last name, and here's a picture of her. And here's all the things college. And it just tell you what it it seemed just it seemed really sleazy it is a running gag that. They also just did with the fire festival documentary where they essentially paid image. They paid fuck Jerry again to make money on the disaster that they helped produce that they then basically double made money, but then producing the the Gotcha documentary about the people that the about the crimes that they were also technically involved when involved in even with a French the Netflix at this point is like trying desperately to scoop, they want a scoop. Oh, you wanna do that kind of show, which is I don't know how to feel about it. Because I understand the want. I understand you wanna bring new information to the table. We've been reading about Ted Bundy for years. So you want to add like new things. But in the end, it's like, what are what are we losing also in that was nothing and now. It was interesting though, you know, when you just when you think about the escapes the double escapes that was fascinating seeing the jail cell where he sat salute. Absolutely out of. And when he traveled all across the country, literally one coast to the other. I mean, it was it was fascinating to remember that you could do that number one. And number two when he like I forgot that he went to Michigan. Yeah. To watch the Michigan football team to fight at the bar. Yeah. Because he was such an asshole that he does to. A fist at a bar. Well, he was also at that time in the middle of a manic episode. Oh after he because that that is that story his escape because I I don't know exactly how much they they tell because I didn't get that far into the documentary series. But that story is amazing where he breaks out of prison because he's what he did was he Doug or he cut a hole in the ceiling of his jail cell. He lost weight. He purposely started sleeping later up until like, eleven o'clock. So the jailers got trained to not bring him his food until about eleven o'clock every day. So what he would do every night is he would go in and out of the hole every single night run. Explore the jail to see what the best route will escape was. And then once he finally got out. He started hitchhiking. He got a a ride from a guy. He told the guy. Hey, my wife is going into labor in another city. I need to get to the airport right now. And how he got the air. Port Texas because since he was working as his own legal defense. He had a credit card that he could use to make long distance of Mon calls. He's used the credit card to get a plane ticket to Chicago. And by the time, the by the time anyone knew the Ted Bundy was gone he'd been gone for seventeen hours, and he was one thousand miles away. I didn't realize that the guards the it was the jail. It was the jailer the he had an apartment above the cell. Yeah. Of there were a couple of strategic mistakes would say pleding of that present he dropped down to the jailers closet because he started crawling up there. And he could hear them having dinner below him. I raised it is interesting because I don't want again, I don't wanna blow up and say that he was this devious mastermind, but there he put a lot of work. And there was a lot of blind eyes turn towards thing. It also it had quite to do with his looks. And it's part of the reason why he was allowed to do what he did. Because he just looks like a normal kind of Unasur. Coming man like, he's vaguely good looking. And he just kind of has this kind of affable. Like, I hate the smug laugh though. All time. Yes. Natalie actually, put it through you're watching together. And like, I don't, you know, like, it's it's hard because it's a it's a it's a hard thing to bring up, but it literally is the the full extent of white privilege where like to be honest, you're watching the story being like you guys aren't going to wail on him. Really, even the you really could have just he could act Beuys. It's like there's any time. It's gonna be a little bit of police abuse little bit of maybe some of excessive force I feel like maybe we could grab them and fucking like beat the shit out of a couple of times after he was wanted for a bunch of different murders and all kinds of shit. I understand. But it's like once you really realize the extent of his crimes, maybe good for somebody kinda give them a fucking whack on the side of the head. And maybe he was a little disoriented of it will be difficult for him to be constantly planning to escape. Absolutely. They could have done a little polish family reunion right there. Of course, they could have had some violence. There's no denying that. And it's interesting to that point when he got arrested the first time, it was the first time maybe the second time when he spent away from the office. After the officer chases him down the officer talks about he got into a fight with the guy. He tried to go for his gun. The officer hit him in the head with his revolver just old school. Now, it is three in the chest. Ventilated? Lay them. That's what they should have done. A can't believe how much did he got away with got away? I guess that's part of it. He just got away with so much shit. And it was like they did that big. They showed it in a third episode where the the sheriff of Tallahassee wanted to publicly indict him. And so they put him out. No handcuffs on. No hint. A press pool. Hang out, they read it Tim on live television. And he then it's like you just gave him a platform. He is loving this shit. You just kept giving him the these this this stuff you gave him all this ammo to run with. And then you gave them a recorder. And that's where he starts to remind me of BT K because she loves the sound of his own voice. Absolutely. Does. I did not the new information that I got from this though. And I'm not sure if if we covered this I obviously that was years and years ago when we spoke about this, man. But when he cross examined the man who went into the sorority house. I and Tallahassee. Yeah. The great detail that he made him go into about how the bodies were placed on the bite marks is a calendar of it was so eerie. Well, that's the interesting. The interesting thing about that incident. Is that Ted bundy's? Trial was one of the very first televised trials in American history. And everyone across the country watched the Ted Bundy trial, and because he was charming and because he was kind of good looking. The American tea because was TV friendly, and he also dressed TV friendly like what he'd wear those fucking like Seattle SuperSonics, sweaters war. He wore a belly shirt in one of the pictures. And because he was so TV friendly America was kind of split on this guy. Like he was at Ted Bundy was like a little popular. And they're like, well, I don't know like, wow. And really like at the end of the day the science, the what is it the tooth bite sciences kind of junk science like it's not right? It's not great. It's not really that. Good science. So people were a little apprehensively like, well, maybe maybe he didn't do it. Maybe this is just bad luck. Right after that cross examination after it was obvious that he took this guy after it was obviously he took this police officer up to ask him all these questions because he made him do all these details. Made him talk about all of his over and over and over again, and then asked no follow up questions. Right. And then just sat down because it was obvious. He just wanted to hear it. But then he had manage. To flip the whole thing to be a Knicks an expression of his horrific crimes and lay them out in front of everyone and everyone gets to witness it, and he's totally in charge. She's Maka Belling, devious pieces shit. Don't you see how evil my deeds are all it is is making them harder and harder. Yup. And he really thought he was going to get away with it. I'm firmly believed that this story also had in my opinion, other than Ted Bundy who is obviously the worst character in the story, Carol and Boone that was the woman on to under oath testified that she was just driving me insane. They ended up having a child because the the Russians officers turned his way turned his back and let them have sex. I thought they snuck come out. No, no. Ron visits Hanjour, go visa, we could actually do it. They actually could Faulk. I didn't get to the very end. They actually did it. So they had a oh that dude. It was a family picture. She had a son from another relationship. But she was so you had the first so we had to escape we had mass murder so beautiful girls being killed. Now. We have a fucking dude Machiavelli unlike like like Bundy in engagement, and then when then of course, it ends with the televised execution. It is the perfect television true crime show. I mean, this is a Ted Bundy it is a amazing story, by the way that they to like this is before like everyone was a reality show producer in their own. I mean, but you're shows that it's a it's like a strain of humankind right on want to mention how many people this reminds me of currently that are also in like, you know, in charge right now. But a part of the the people that understand intrinsically how. To get eyeballs and cameras on them in front of us is one of those guys where it's give he had if again, if he had gotten positive allegation and other realms he technically would have probably also kill people, but would have been a very successful, TV producer. I mean, it is possible. I mean, even the one thing that bothered me about this was again, they didn't focus enough on the victims the victims families and what the victims went through. They did show. What the judge said however to Bundy, and as we did talk about this. I didn't quite realize how much the judge truly loved the judge like in does absolutely smitten with Bundy. And when you talk about privileges, Henry mentioned without a doubt. Like, the fact that that judge looked at him and bin Laden was like you would have made a great lawyer. It's a shame. We didn't get to work together. He was more concerned with the waste of Ted bundy's potential all thirty six people. They're all meeting him with kid gloves there. They kept calling him special and go fuck yourself. He's not. No did that the easiest thing in the world is to it's to give into those dark impulses shit to do and you all the all couldn't get over yourselves to more. So to talk about how evil he was. But then it was fascinating. Because at the end when they show all the students that were there in Tallahassee when they finally ended up executing him that made my skin crawl a little bit too. Well, we just the the, you know, fry fry Ted spectacle that it became I do own a burn Bundy barn. You wanted one? Literally take it out of his trunk at burnt burnt body burns like I wish headed in black. Why is that? I don't wear white shirts. Got me a burn Bundy burn t shirt for what is it for my birthday this year? Because I mentioned that I wanted one back when I was writing the Bundy chapter in like June. That's funny varies. She's very very sweet with these about this information to is that it, you know, they billet as, you know, the Bundy tapes is all new information. This is based out like the book was written in nineteen Eighty-nine. It's called only living witness like these guys and the based on these tapes like this is nothing new that maybe these tapes have never been heard before. But it's on the other end, you know, it's Bundy saying shit that doesn't really matter. It doesn't just the gives, you know, new insight into it's I mean, it is a cash grab the just it is a cash crab that is meant to. I it's piggybacking on the Zach Ephron movie. Looks weird as well. Yeah, they're making a kind of like it seems like it's kind of like a comedy. It's kind of like a higher energy kind of thing where they're trying to give it some possess. What someone who saw it said that it is like a seventies rock bio-pic like with needle drops in like fat like fast cuts and shit. Like that. I don't and I don't know. And they'd better because that's the thing about both this documentary series from probably the movies. Well, I don't know. But there if they don't go into the actual murder, right? Because there's a there's a reason like we don't go into the actual murders in the details of the actual murders. Just as you know, morbid like murder Torres. Like, we're doing to show you what these guys actually do what they do. This is what they did. This is who this piece of shit is this is who these people are like it's showing people what the fuck hap what the Conroy of these things are and how buckle they're not cool. They're not sexy. Because that's the thing you watch Ted Bundy this entire you watched that documentary series, and they don't go into him sawing off ahead and throwing it into his girlfriend's puck and fern thrown in his girlfriend's fireplace. Or you don't talk about 'em put makeup on severed heads or having sex with or having sex with a corpse over a series. Like four days or possibly keeping a woman alive and raping her over and over and over again over a period of days out in the woods or the two girls after sim salmon sammamish, those two girls how we took him both to afar mouse, and he raped and killed one while he made the other one watch you don't go through any of that shit. If you don't talk about that should then yet, Ted bundy's is sexy figure came a rock and roll God raucous. It's just murder because oh, it's just murder murders five murder murders. Whatever, you know. It's a cult figure thing becomes and Billy the kid or something. Yes. It's exactly what it is that a lovable outlaw all and all of a sudden, you're in the middle of this being like are you trying to like watch in the Sears me? Like, you're trying to tell me to root for this motherfucker like supposed to act like all of this. Like, he's Robin Hood or some bullshit. Like, no, man. He's incredibly dangerous person that just happened to be a flawed enough as a human being to act. To activate that part of his mind and make it run make it like put it on the world. And of course, perfect timing. Just technology wasn't there yet. And he worked with the police departments previously. He knew the behind the scenes work. He knew how to he knew exactly how to get away with it for a long time. But absolutely that was one of the things that they definitely should have put in. They did tell the story about the woman that he kidnapped who is able to get away which is horrific, but obviously was going to get a lot worse. But yet they don't really go into that. They mentioned the necrophilia a little bit at the end of a little bit at the end part of it and the article, you know, the article that I mentioned earlier that you know, talks about it. It's by Katie Dowd. Published at San Francisco gates called Netflixing Ted Bundy documentary is almost everything that's wrong with the true crime. John rut. It's a it's a really it's a good read. I recommend. Yeah. Any any Senate over to me? But yeah, it's it's a really good reason. Yeah. The these sorts of crimes that that these people do the actual details. It's not it's not about being morbid. It's about showing right? These people actually actually fucking are. I doubt I doubt. There would be as as many girls talking about how nice Richard Ramirez is hair looks if they knew about him his carving out the eyes and putting them in a jewelry box and taking them back on the Cecil hotel and laughing later, I think it would really turn them off as the Jala toasts of recess because that's the thing. That's never actually sexy. Never no one actually misconstrued that. But again, you know, this is people are going to do what they're going to do. And people handle these news the way that the new right? You know, I don't really understand. I mean, I you know, we were looking at pictures of what the bitch from Buchenwald. Hey, I mean, you'll see is a kick and I'm not into her. Yeah. Like my like tall busty? I'm not into her. No. Yeah. You'll see that was that was Ed Giddins lady right there. That relationship just wait for the book. Honestly, I can't look because normally in a man's mind away. I could maybe just separate to Bubis from the thing. But I can't with her. So I think that makes me better. And then also I mean, even with Casey Anthony, I would have to be very hard pressed to date her very hard pressed who date her. Wow. What about what about just general like still going Greece? Just see meet-and-greet say say Hello. We're in a we're in a parallel universe. Where were you and Natalie never met, and yeah, you're on this is three years. Single Henry, and you're down in Saint Petersburg, visiting your parents and in walks. Yup. Casey, Anthony depends on what kind of Tuesday. It is. There is a him. Is there some guy just playing acoustic guitar some like some hot is slick like some some fucking early Santana. Maybe Saint Petersburg on a Tuesday every bars got a guy with an acoustic. That's what I'm saying. Yes. Yes. I'm just glad you know, J Simpson because he was at the same fucking bar that he his bars the same hotel that we stayed at for our wedding. Was that have been fun? Well, honestly, you might bump into OJ at some point. He's out and about or about to go out. All right. That's that's basically little synopsis on the Netflix series, Ted Bundy. Yeah. Remember the crimes, I would say, you know, watched the document docu series. You will pick up some stuff. That's interesting. I was interesting how he could only shed light on his crimes in the third person. You know, but it's all. It's very interesting also in the book that came thirty years ago, but at the of your visual learner like me, I like watching it. So obviously, I would still recommend the docu series. It's pretty thorough. It's just remember what you're for me. I'm I say to myself. I remember what you're watching while you're watching it. I'm watching it essentially watching it for this show, and I'm watching it because of my general interest in true crime. But it did once it slides into this area of like treating him like he's Batman than I'm checked out. No. I know I it turned into a the story of a failed lawyer, and what he would have been also. Hey, man, burst MacArthur. He fucking pleaded guilty. Eight counts this morning. So he's he's going to the Canadian slammer, which we know is human now strict that is. Oh, yeah. No putin. No Putin on Mondays are eight. But on Mondays sometimes guy. If you're good you. But normally know Putin on Mondays Putin will be served regularly in hot from through Sunday. Oh, that's nice. Bruce, Bruce MacArthur, of course, he killed eight people in Canada, mostly or all gay men. So it's a he has pleaded guilty and sentenced I didn't follow this story. Wasn't it? Mostly Middle Eastern gay men. Yes. Yes. It was a part of it is the less dead scenario part of it. They're saying that he was picked up because he looked like a very nice grandpa. And they didn't realize he was an fallen did SDSM scene. And they didn't know how to gauge all that. And then you just hit body parts and planters all over Toronto use a Landseer, very boy. Very yes. So he put body parts and the escapes that he the land commercial landscaping. No, we'll be covering him one day. Yeah. Yes. Each of the first degree murder charges. Carry an automatic life sentence meeting when they must be I guess running concurrently because he's going to be eligible for parole when he's ninety one years old of so it doesn't look like you'll be getting out. Yes. In mostly Middle Eastern men. So there you go. So anyway, that's that's a good story. He is he is away as he should be. He sixty seven years old now if you're like me, you're probably deathly afraid of Xena morphs, they are horrified and the fine folks at FOX next and d three go want to put you to the test in a new chapter in the alien franchise in alien blackout available today for your mobile device in alien blackout. 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I forgot about your thing for snooky. Remember you yet we used to talk about Beckham the roundtable times, I've met snooky she had an entourage about eighteen people deep wasn't able to get that close very tiny. She she wrote a book about motherhood. So so we're doing fine Ashley Horning. She is twenty five years old. She's being held on a million dollar bond after Spokane police charged her with second degree murder of Christina Powell, the forty eight year old mother of her ex and the grandmother of her young daughter Zachary Gardner, told this is local news K X L Y has clicks lead news. He Horning had been dating for several weeks when he discovered she was a murder suspect, which I believe is the Michael Meyer, isn't that? So I married. An axe murderer isn't that exactly that premise from that movie? I will tell you. He had the reaction that I could totally see from the students like shoes. Good woman. Tell you obviously, it's hard. For some people to see right now. That's what I'm saying. She was she was attractive enough for him to be like, not all bad. So she's like she let me play the games into. Chicks on chill. So she's like super chill. So it's like Gus you got a murder somebody gets if it gives out your system, you will fuck a hassle me. She kinda looks like Casey Anthony away. This is like the Casey Anthony story because remember the guy that everyone said was from these boyfriend, Tony Tony Tony Lazaro was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The everyone was Casey Anthony's is like no they were just fucking getting high and plane smash brothers for like two weeks. Well for all of this shit went down. She was this woman Horning was doing a little bit more than that. She fatally shot Powell on Thursday morning before going on the run from the police court documents obtained by people magazine confirmed Gardner received a Facebook message from Horning not long after Powell's killing in it. She expressed suicidal thoughts Gardner said he went to meet with Horning who is sitting on the bench about a mile from the crime scene. This is what he says he says long story short though store short picked her up because the full something was off. It was then that he said that Hornets showed him a news story about how police were searching for he Gardner says a stressful situation. And I said, we're turn you in. Agreed Gardner Gardner told the station please where she was. And so he said he said Horton was anxious depressed and wanted custody of her two children who were staying with their fathers. So she your new bro on the scene. Right. Josh you're getting used to. It's like, maybe I could like date a gas. The gushes coal average just. And then all of a sudden, you're like, she's maybe a murder suspect. The guys just the middle Bill. Well. Well, no. Paul like watched a movie on Vietnam and book and told me about it. So people can get killed do. I'll fucking now like a rose powerful shield. Trauma is I'm very Joseph really is. Notre personally that wasn't southern. She would normally be capable of or wrong to do know you've been dating her for two fucking weeks. Dude. She wanted custody of her kids from her father's nothing wrong with Avin kids out there. But my goodness gracious OBE. So apparently the gun that she used to kill this woman. She tossed it into the Spokane river in it's unclear as of Monday if horny had entered a plea of the charges she phases. Or if she has retained a lawyer who could comment on her behalf. She shot her ex's mother. Yes. In the end the grandmother of her child, so he was one. So it's you know, there's some close, I'm assuming the grandmother a lot to unpack here. I'm above whatever their relationship is. It seems like what it is that the grandmother was probably taking care of the child. This woman sounds absolutely fucking saying the grandmother was trying to have the child's best interests, raise my bane. Probably told her stay the fuck away from here allowed in this house anymore. This woman loses her fucking mind and shoots her in the face. So apparently Horning this is she was talking from prison. She says she has no memory of the alleged murderer only realized trouble, you realize what you would sit trouble. So. Yes, strange. How you black that out? Flame shooting up the side of my face nothing. Just simply can't okay? It's tuesday. What am I doing? I'm killing with Brad because he wants to be chilled. We're so we're chilling. I'm good at chilling. I'm super chill. You knows that I'm show. And then it's just Thursday. Madeline Kahn one of the greatest of all time. She realized she was in trouble when she saw social media post ins about her wanted status. So she's got some disconnect going on. And it's just sad. When we are now in society where you don't know your murderer until you see it on Twitter. It's the social media posted. So does that mean that her friends were posting as they? Thank you. Or does. She follow the local police department on Twitter, if I imagine she got a Facebook measures being like, I think. Yeah. Guilty of med. He's like. Oh my goodness. No, one should feel unsafe at home period. Fear has no place in a place like home that's been simply safe's mission from day one. You'll even see a commercial about it during the big game. This Sunday be sure to check it out. Simply safe blankets. Your whole home with protection around the clock professional monitoring mix. Sure police are on the way when you need them. The security sensors are tiny blended in with your home. So you won't notice them the verge. Call simply safe the best home security, and it's a wire cutter top pick as more than three million. 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They shared police said Lisa cutting interesting Twenty-one from Jefferson to Virginia with sound here. Making up a name, it's called Jefferson Jones. I ten. No, literally is it really is like, yeah. I'm my name is Robert from Judah for her son. Virginia via she's charged with second degree murder, which I don't even understand for the depth of fellow Radford university student, Alexa, canon, formerly of Roanoke. According to a press release from the Radford city. Police department cutting was being held in a local jail on no bond. Police responded to a nine one one call around seven forty five Thursday during the call police dispatcher said she heard someone shouting and referencing a knife. When officials arrived at the off campus apartment where the wom- resided. They saw cutting covered in blood and cutting put her arms behind her head and said arrest me to search weren't said I killed her cutting said after the police asked her what was going on. I pronounced dead at the scene. If you're an officer what's going up going? I killed her. What is going on guys? Been making some to strawberries Sunday's over your girls night, bend your Thursday. That is how like just utterly shocked the mind, assuming of a male police officer is like she's covered in blood. She says arrest me I killed her baking happening when one's going on here. At least did not reveal the motive for the killing posts on cannon. Social media pages indicate that the girls had a close relationship, I met this girl two years ago online, and somehow we ended up living across from each other for a year and this summer, she was a quivalent to my mom and Cancun an unimaginably. She still puts up with me. And now we're living together next year. A love you more Lou and everyone pray that we don't kill each other this year cannon said on Instagram. Okay. So that is the victim. That is a victim. Miss cannon there. That's what she said on Instagram. Let's pray. We don't kill each other this year a post on cannons Facebook page from July read, so incredibly. The proud of my best friend Luisa cutting for becoming Latino student alliances. President I know you're going to be amazing with everything you do love you more love you so much cutting wrote. But I also was really weird that they all of the knife emojis. Very strange very out of the out of character for so it looks like cutting doing fairly well you're in school. But maybe this has something to do with a mental break parents cutting his on it is on interim suspension at university. That's according to kaitlin Skaggs at Radford Radford university's associate vice president for university relations. This is according to the university statement from the student, Brian helpful. He said, this is a tragic moment for our campus community and the Radford family during this difficult time, we ask that you provide support to your fellow highlanders. So I guess there can be only one. That is a horrible name. That's a horrible name. I just I mean, honestly, I feel like you can feel the tension the murderous tension. When you see back and forth social media posts of two young women saying like love, you love you more, right? Does kind of feel like if you think that you love me more. I'll fucking kill you like and kind of feel that energy. Yes. The statement from the university goes on the days and months to come. We'll be we'll also be difficult as we extend our deepest sympathies as well. As our thoughts and prayers to the family and loved ones of stabbing thirty times an incredible amount of rage. I mean went that is insane. That's that's insane. Like, I wonder what what because specially in the middle of doing it like how do you like, I I'm not going to say I understand. But I can kind of see the impulse like stab or hurt. Somebody do some thing out of a crazy fucking impulse. You're you're emotional basket case, and you're kind of on edge and something happens. You get in a fight come bullshit. But how is thirty stab wounds second degree murder because it sounds like she really wants to do it. If unlike accidentally knocking somebody over a railing or some shade or row or some kind of horrible accident. I'm not sure if thirty to forty I mean, I mean, the most be some sort of mitigating factors going on here. I mean with the well, I it was with something like that. Like, I think crimes of passion things like that is second degree murder like a pop off type of thing. Like in the moment in the heat of the moment believe that's sometimes second degree murder. I mean, depending. But I degree murderers that fully premeditated. I'm going to kill you, planning it out all that sort. Easier to prove as well. Perhaps death penalty would come with. I I'm not quite sure capital murder and all that type of ship with with as far as stabbing someone like that goes as many times from what we've heard what we've read from people who've done things like that is that they keep stabbing Intel the rage runs out. And that's why they keep stabbings that it's not they don't keep stabbing. Because like I wanna kill him. They keep stabbing because the rage that they're feeling is still there, and they don't stop stabbing until the rage has abated. And then that's when you get that feeling of. Oh god. What have I done? Well, that's your Bundy. Right. When he went in. He had the he had the sorority house when frigging totally bonkers and then he killed two more different. That's well, that's different psychology though. Because that that kind of psychology is that serial killer psychology, it is a beserk remote. But it comes from a different place. Like, it comes from a like that kind of rage comes from a different place. It's more of a rage at you know, that what is it? The fuck. What do you call it? The entity. Entity entity. He wasn't the only one who had an entity. I I wanted mentioned this John Wayne gase also had an entity remember the name of his instantly. I don't even what was it called Jack Hanley yet who was a cop because you remember he was like detective. Drive around in his car. Those outfitted like a fucking cop car that was his like shadow personnel. Oh my goodness. Oh, he's the gay one. One right there. All right. Well, let's continue on with the theme of the news stories more ladies in trouble. Now, this one involves a cult leader in New Mexico. The name of this gal. She is her name is Deborah green. She she is impressive looking. I am loving this uniform, man. Well, I'm sure that you are she called herself the general, and you might say well that seems like an awful awful awfully militant name for a cult leader. Or a Christian cult leader. Well, the name of her Christian Colt was quote, aggressive Christian mission training corps, which is the most on the nose. I've ever heard for description of an aggressive. Christian cult dish. It's pretty pretty intense. It's also the aggressive Christianity missions training corpse training. The aggressive Christianity minuting. It doesn't. Missions training corps. Abbreviated ACM TC, which were they call themselves. Also known as the holy tribal nation of free love ministries or the life force team. Those are much better than ACM TC or aggressive Christian mission training corps. Real official. They like it is intense as possible. So Debra Debra grade. She was sentenced to Wednesday in district court in grants right after one of the victims gave him ocean testimony about what was happening on this compound. So the victim said emotionally, she broke me as a child to the point where I where I still today struggle with my own self confidence, myself esteem, and my sense of worth. So she actually got sentenced to the victim S District Court judge James Sanchez to give seven the seventy one year old green the maximum sentence of one hundred and eight years. So she is really she's in it. This is going to be maybe the the future for the dude of the Nexium called perhaps he's gonna look similar years behind bars as well. Well, these guys were a little bit even more serious than the next call because the next call was a little bit more about pleasing, the leader user, people that believe that they were creating a modern Christian army, and it seemed like they have because the they. They were known as generals because her her official title within the Colt was general green in the overall, we call to the back and forth, and it seems to be it's a like a Christian version of Scientology, but they were also armed. Yes. They had many concentric circles of membership. There was obviously many different ranks and the children were raised in children of God. Like quota Ryan free love society. And they also did not believe in medicine. So you say one hundred eight years this woman just seems like the she might have had a rough childhood or something. Well, children of God is the is the right comparison because green got seventy two years. This is again, Deborah agree. And she got seventy two years for three counts of child rape, two counts of kidnapping and one count of child abuse at the start of the trial. It was revealed. Green was accused of convincing her daughter to take a newborn baby from Uganda in the nineteen nineties the child. Was brought to the compound where it was physically and sexually abused. This is this woman is obviously completely disgusting. And it's in this is one of the most most agree GIS colts. I can think of when it comes to the sexual nature. That's led by a woman is is that is that unique. I'll tell you what man again big ups for the ladies getting in there. You gotta take up that space in there. You can't be the ones who have the be the cult leaders, man. You gotta get in there. You gotta start two sisters are doing it for themselves. But the only leader the we covered was that one chick who has that compound out there that just kind of witchy it doesn't seem like there's any sexual abuse going on in that does that that's a little different. It's much different. Yeah. There's are. There are other female cult leaders that we didn't even talked about this because we wanna do we wanna do more. Obviously, we love Kelt up. So our favorite shouldn't have face the planet. But because of the deep nature of it how much shit is involved. But there are stuff like the. The woman Silvia Moroz Merano who was co leader of a violent cult called LA Santorum worked. Called the Saint death teams to be they're involved in the cartels. And they do quite a bit of human sacrifices to their God of death to help protect their various drug dealings, actually got believe Carolina covered that one on. Let's croissant. Cray. Ooh. Speak Spanish gave bed that shit is particularly fucking awful. Yes. It's really brutal. And even if you don't speak Spanish, a checkout. What does it just last podcast network dot com? Rights, and she has the scripts in English. Yeah. All all this. Yes, you can follow along. Or if you're just interested in reading about the crimes of Latin America, there's a lot. What's there to talk about? There is a whole thing. It's pretty nuts. It's pretty nuts. There's a budget. There is Chinese cult eventually want to cover called following gong. That is supposed to be that uses dancers much like Shane Rikio till like kind of present how cool and fund their group is seems to be there's quite a bit of that actually within China seems to be there's a there's a couple of female run colts out of China, which is good for them. Yeah. I guess female run called just might not be necessarily an American thing. Because it seems like around the world, you know, there are playing because I mean well children of God. Like a lot of the higher ups. They were but there were women that were definitely involved in the sexual abuse. When you get little Ricky and all of us. Which I don't really want to think about again. But even Jonestown we talked about how important the women were thin the organizational structure of Jonestown, but it was a little bit more. Unofficial which another instinct thing about the stories the location that it's in Gallup, New Mexico. That's right. Where the old route six six six USA star. Oh, they changed it in two thousand and three though to what four nine one. I. Doesn't three but the Gallup is actually really interesting place because it sits right in the middle of four different Indian reservations. Okay. Like, you know, like Navajo Zuni there's a whole lot of different like Indian reservations. Right. So it's very interesting that they choose like specifically that place to run a weird Christian. Militant cult will perhaps the authorities weren't paying as much attention as they would have if it was located elsewhere going back to Deborah green. Judge Sanchez said about her victim a weaker person would not have survived that means you can continue on being strong. The abuse came to light last year. With authorities raided the compound in fence lake near Gallup and found eleven eleven children. Some of them were as young as four years old all of them being held against their will. So this is it's a disturbing story. I don't think we have to put on our feminists caps for this one. I'm gonna say, she's a horrible person. So we could say, yeah. So those eleven kids have been taken into into custody and God, hopefully, they can they can recover from it given the long sentence. She was given the dis. The DA's office is still deciding if it will take this case to trial, so she is going to be gone forever. But yeah, I I know where. Yeah. Snappy uniforms, though that white uniform that she has is really snappy hits interests. I'm saying it's a that's one good thing again to a call you make your own uniforms and everybody gets to be part of a team that you're immediately in charge of you can also do that if you get into a dance club or like if you there's so many other ways to do it. But want the uniform? Hi, guys. It's Carolina Hidalgo from last podcast network. I co hosts a weekly podcast called movie sign with the Mads with Frank of and trace Bellevue. The original mad scientists from the hit TV show mystery science theater three thousand. That's right TV's Frank, and Dr Clinton four-star along with myself spend each week discussing enthused dissecting, a movie, we've recently seen premature show is very complicated. I hope he can pay attention. 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Quickly say the good news story of the week three year old boy missing and freezing weather for two days because he said he was looked after by a bear. He was actually, you know, what I want to take a little bit of a lead on this new story because I got a new story for you guys to to to refute. The bear information bring more. Nice story Marcus you'll be against the narrative the story. I don't know what it is about. You like did about false narrative of bears. If that the story of a three year old boy who said he survived two nights alone in the woods, due to the assistance of a friendly. Bear should not encourage people to seek out their own relationships with bear. Eating earth. Sign expert has warned last week. Rescuers and learnt North Carolina found three year old Casey Hathaway crying, but safe entangled in a patch of thorny bushes. Having been missing in a wooded area and freezing conditions for two nights. Casey told police survived due to the presence of a black bear which kept him company. Why would the boy make it up easily three years old? That's exactly what a bear is a three year old. Three year olds every day. Have you heard of three year old end venue? Team in Hebron fruit and then a rabbit, Gabe. He was an authority Bush who will extorting Bush's bears, and I'm going to say to refute you, Mr. Marcus brianna Hathaway. This is the boy's aunt. She says he said he hung out with a bear for two days, and she wrote on Facebook God sent him a friend to keep him safe. God is good Merrick owes dealing that's to I don't like I don't like fucking shoehorning her fucking evangelism. And her a few you this seemingly remarkable tale of jungle book style. Interspecies friendship was likely a product of Casey's imagination. However, according to one veteran bear expert said Chris servino Abair researcher at the university of Montana. I've never known such a thing to happen bears. Don't do that. While there's aren't friendly with people. I don't want to say he's not telling the truth. He obviously thinks he seen things. Maybe he's gotta teddy bear at home. But I've seen no evidence anything like that has ever had. Oh my God. I feel like number one. He got paid for that interview. I definitely think he's taken money on the dole is making that your money to for some reason, he doesn't want to believe this because you know, he's never been close to a bear. That's right. And he's always wanted to be desperately. So wanted to be friends with the Bayer could never bridge gap because they all funk and know that he's the fucking man. He's a cop could trust him and three I think a part of it is that he feels he needs to say something as a member of the bear science community. This kid is the future Jane Goodall for. Bayer. I don't know if you really want to bear whispered if you want to know about the the behaviors bears and how bears react humans now difficult. It is really trade. A bear you read this book called dancing bear. There about dancing bears in Russia bears are quite the particular animal will I ready Facebook post, quote, godsend, Tim, a friend to keep them safe. God is good miracles. Do happen there. Okay. We imagine the flip of this whole storyline. No bear. But it's he did meet somebody in the forest, and it's just a man in a dirty furry. In the woods. Spiritual right. Bringing them Honey and shit. He's like the beam man is a good mean. There's just a fogging drifter escapee from a mental asylum. I don't care. It's like what is the dude from problem child? Yeah. Christopher Lloyd's character. That's Michael Richardson problems over there for Loyd was Dennis the minute. To just surprise. He's not a pedophile characters that every rap stallion boy movie. Maybe they ended in that part out. I don't know Dennis wasn't Mattis as good luck. My man, I don't think that's going to happen terrorists. I I know. Okay. Well, I'm going to believe that you know, that kid got a book published that he said he went to heaven berko Bourbeau got a book published you had a movie didn't it didn't a movie, Hank. It was. Yeah. I saw a trailer for this move in looks fucking awful, they're actors. Well, there's so many famous actors are just so many paycheck performances where these guys are just like. Just like all right. Like, the the dudes that one of the dudes that was in scrubs. Graf? Now, the other guy other guy. Yeah. Yeah. There's there's a lot of people like just looking for paychecks these days doing the shitty Christian film. Well, a little kid got a fucking wakeup call. But how difficult is a write a book that certain burp? Well, yes. Absolutely. And of course, that's going to be for profit that whole story was for profit. And if you want to watch how truly horrible the inside workings of the Jellico community, I watched what was it called? Do you guys of Tammy Faye? Tammy Faye Bakker documentary narrated by rupaul it came on two thousand but Jiri full will did to Jim Bakker and Tammy Faye was brutal really interested anyway. So check that out. Okay. Lasts late. My feel good story. Although it's not really a feel good story. But I just didn't know his possible. Police say a Connecticut woman charged with driving under the influence was drunk on vanilla extract. I guess that has a bunch of booze in very alcoholic new new ideas, yada, DeLorean teas. Can make you chose like am burial. Or some bullshit. I just saw a pioneer woman make her own vanilla extract using a bottle of cheap brandy and vanilla. So this is fifty year old. Stephanie Warner Greis she was sitting in her car intersection. Her eyes were closed she fell asleep. It was four forty five of the afternoon. Rough day officers say they found several bottles of peer vanilla extract inside the car, they said they detected an odor of vanilla on her breath. And her speech was slurred. I just didn't realize that you could get that him off of vanilla extract. But why is she drinking like she's MRs Claus? That's very strange. Let's go thought it was such a funny. It could sit a weird thing to just get hammered off of remember when you were a kid we ever told that likes Norton nutmeg was a substitute for cocaine. We did it. I did it with my friends just like the little challenge with like, I think it'd salt also hurts a lot vanilla extract seventy proof seventy seventy proof little bit more than like vodka. But it's that's the thing though. Is that by volume it's much much more expensive. Right. So that's the interesting thing about this. Yeah. And maybe your body doesn't test for alcohol or something. It's got this parole or some shit. I think she just needed a drink. I don't know probably just an alcohol. I think it's just there were there was vanilla extract around. And so she grabbed it and dry. I know that's that's your theory. It's also my theory that this news story comes from the cops in candy land. And this is one of the things they see on a regular basis. All right. Well, hey, if you're going to get drunk guys, don't do it in your car. You can take whatever you want a couple of things I'm going to say to not do rubbing alcohol is not good for you know, how much you need to get it. If you're gonna relapse just get beers. And then go back into treatment. I don't know what to say no to the boys in part of it. Don't don't pure L. You don't need to do it that way. If you're gonna relapse relapse in a fun way or we're just yeah. Just take care of yourself. Don't do it behind a with no matter what you do. Don't be behind any heavy machinery or car, or motorcycle or tricycle already. Cut a bike. Because every single time. I'm worried about if I can make it I think about this inspirational, quote from Sammy Hagar, you write me up for one twenty-five poster my face want to dead or alive. Take my license. All that jive. I can't drive fifty five. Oh my goodness. All right. We will not drive. There was one dude. I remember alcohol who used to do. He was like. Yeah. The thing with rubbing alcohol. They don't let me have boots in the house. But I have that. And you can you you filter it through white bread. The white bread. All right. We'll take care of yourselves. Thank you all so much for listening to this show. Can we do have some announcements the it's general now for our for our live shows says so get out there? Check on her live shows three nineteen in Nashville. They got three twenty in cincy, needy override three twenty two Cleveland three twenty three and good old-fashioned fashioned Pittsburgh going to school and see to fam- and get wild. I cannot wait. I love those cities. It'd be nice to see the mid west. I never Cincinnati. I have never been to Cincinnati either. I know they got the chili and I'm going to say it's a little controversial. But I'm going to get a chili dog. You're going to get a chilly rowing is. I'm lost no way. But I am I wearing plastic bags and I'm rowaine. I'm sweating. Okay. For you to have some carbs. It's good for you have some could sit and do it traditionally goes traditionally since now Cincinnati chili I believe is served over spaghetti. Yes. We could sit and have a plate of that in an attempt to do show. Sure, we've done this before we got the barbecue in Kansas City. And then we did a show like. Everybody has pretty. Phelan? So check on our patriotic all so much for giving to that this week. Henry Henry, and I interviewed at detective Mike Procter, he's a former homicide detective he wrote the book on stocking. Not a how to how to stop it. So yes, check that out. Thank you, all so much. And I'm just gonna say this can't wait to see on the road and hail yourselves. Hey, live like this. Is it man because it is love like you got a pocketful of condoms and an shoes full lube, and I want you to laugh like you're a man on the way to the electric chair. Okay. Right. You got me. What was his Ted bundy's? Last words were like story for all the trouble something about all. That is something ridiculous space. Did they do? Did. They talk about the James Dobson interview. Yes, they talk about him blaming it on pornography and James Dobson. Speaking of Evangelos, Kohl's watch the Tammy Faye dot and watch the Bundy dock. They are such scum bags. They somehow blamed women for just having boobs still came all around to pornography being the problem. Oh, all right. Elliot's those Helmi pornography's never the problem for pornography is the solution. How I if pornography was the problem, then we would not have survived. The seventies. Literally all of us would be in jail right now of pornography was the problem. I have to have a pornography in general more on around rebids distant it's nice, and they are actually humans make it. They're actually very nice people from those very nice. Yeah. Thank you for being here, Marcus. Thank you. Thank you. Mark. The bare stories. This show is made possible by listeners like you. Thanks to our ad sponsors, you can support our shows by supporting them for more shows like the one you just listen to go to last podcast network dot com.