A Year After Parkland

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Support for this NPR podcast and the following message. Come from NBC's new drama the enemy within Erica shepherd betrayed her country. Now, she's the FBI's only hope in stopping America's greatest enemy. But can she be trusted Mondays beginning February twenty fifth on NBC? This is one A. I'm Todd's will sitting in for Joshua Johnson. In Washington Columbine, Virginia Tech, sandy hook parkland Santa Fe high school mass shootings in schools are a nightmare. We've experienced on repeat in this country. Tomorrow Valentine's Day marks the anniversary of the shooting at Marjory stoneman Douglas high school in parkland, Florida that let's seventeen people dead some of the survivors of that traumatic event turned their morning into action. So curious what David Hogg one of the student leaders from that school said shortly after the shooting? I don't think we're superheroes. I think we're whatever American should be or people that are standing up and becoming politically active and our democracy in our own way. And I I think what we saw last week with that walkout has since we're walking out of school. But now they're going to walk into the polls when they're able to vote, and they're gonna vote these people out of office of the work of MS D students. Emma, kansallis David Hogg there. Cameron Caskey and many others marked a change for gun laws in our nation. Their activism struck a chord nationwide. According to a Gifford's Law Center study last year lawmakers in twenty seven states passed sixty seven new laws aimed at restricting gun access. We asked for your stories of turning trauma into activism. Here's some of what you left in our inbox, Debbie, and I'm calling from Virginia in may of twenty seventeen. My eighteen year old daughter was hit by a drunk driver. Head on on a beautiful Friday afternoon when they were coming home with the beach her best friend was killed and my daughter was lifeline to a level one trauma center with serious injuries, including a traumatic brain injury in the beginning. We were obviously fighting to get her back, and well and dealing with the legal issue now that those are done I have been able to focus on making something positive come out at a so I've become a local resources for other people with traumatic brain injuries. I've started a support group. And I'm in the process of writing a book to share a story and try to help other people. This is the best way for me to deal with this tragedy. It's to help others this stuff. So from Saint Petersburg, activism, definitely has a great impact in my opinion on traumatic experiences one way to channel anger sadness grief. Confusion and fear is through activists activism through active was what saved my life during the aids crisis from nineteen eighty seven to nineteen ninety one I felt nevermore exhilarating when I was storming the FDA and the NIH in Bethesda Maryland and in Washington to release drugs for people dying during the Reagan administration and Bush administration. Thanks for talking about these young students and their activism and thank you for sharing your stories with us. Joining me now to talk about the movement born out of the park land school tragedy is journalist and author. Dave Cohen, he wrote the book Columbine, and is now out with new book entitled parkland birth of a movement, Dave Cullen brings us close ups. Inning time with the families and those students affected by the parkland suit shooting he's often called upon to analyze school shootings because of his experience. Dave Cohen, thanks for being here. Thanks, thanks for having me. Well, Dave a lot of people are familiar with the students for Marjory stoneman. Douglas, high mentioned them in the movement that they started after their school was terrorized. A I want to start near where your book ends, which is the twenty eighteen midterms. The combination of a difficult and painful year of organizing and activism was twenty eighteen victory for the March for our lives students. Did they get results? Yes. It was a huge victory. It took it took a few days for that to sink in because expectations had run so sky high by November. The unthinkable. Maybe we'll flip the Senate to even though everybody said that was impossible because of the work of a map this year. And so it wasn't a complete miracle, but it was an incredible achievement. I can run up through a couple of things. They flip the house. Collectively flip the house forty seats. Which was about double the rosiest estimates. Democrats in the house races won the popular vote by eight point eight million votes, which was even more than the post Watergate landslide, which no one thought would ever happen. Again. There's so many different ways you can measure this turn out under thirty was crucial. Because that's who the March for lives kids targeted. It was a fifty percent. It was thirty one percent turnout this year versus twenty one percent in the previous mid term. It was the highest ever recorded for people under thirty right astronomical turn out for people under thirty. There's no doubt about it. There were so many other issues in the mid terms, of course, Donald Trump and his presidency investigations. We know all that stuff. You say in the book though, that in twenty eighteen people were finally voting on the issue of guns after try after try after try from gun activists. What's the evidence that in this election, people were actually going to the polls on that issue? Right. That is crucial and first of all understand the setup. Asymmetrical voting is what really had stymied this movement and allowed a tiny minority to overwhelm the majority for a generation very small pro gun side because. Robert Spitzer is an expert on that says anywhere from five to ten percent of people normally vote on guns, very few people, and almost all of those gun owners pro pro gun people voting. So it's completely offset by anything on the other side. So even a small number on the other side of setting that would be a victory because then representatives would vote the majority the and gets got so much better than that for the first time ever gun safety registered on the exit polls it came in fourth the head of global warming almost everything fourth is just no one was expecting to come in fourth. I mean, it'd never registered before. And of those people sixty percent said they were favoring gun safety this time, which is complete reversal seen before. And even this is a stunning forty two percent of gun owners said they were pro gun safety, which this not a majority yet. Although it's it's close because there's a lot of undecideds in there. But. Forty two percent. That's a massive fed as on heard of even in gun country. There's now about half of the gun country. People are finally coming to the table and saying we need to do something. We're ready to compromise with you. Let's make some kind of deal. So that's some evidence of a fundamental real sort of political metrics that you point out. And then that leads to the to the question that gets back to how the students organized in got started a what get how'd you get there? I mean, what was fundamentally different about parkland different from Columbine sandyhook Paducah, I could go on. And fortunately with the list there was a movement after sandy hook it ultimately failed on the legislative front at least in the Senate. But there was something different in the aftermath of parkland. What was it? Well, there are a whole lot of different things. It was kind of a perfect storm. But the number one that I would start with well timing was crucial. But really the biggest thing was the messenger. We did not realize after. Each of the tra- biggest tragedies on the most horrible after Columbine Virginia Tech and Newtown each time. We felt something has to change Newtown was the one that was really gonna put us over the top. It was so horrifying for those little kids six year olds. And we thought that doesn't change it nothing. Well, we didn't understand was it wasn't about the degree of the horror because we were shocked horrified by all these we needed the right messenger. So after after Newtown, we thought Barack Obama was the best messenger. The most powerful key was once in a generation person. He made it a focal point of his state of the union address. He made a big push avert. The you know half the country was behind didn't work that was the wrong guy. And first of all probably couldn't have been any politician because we're we're locked in. This off them, you know, red blue we just choose sides so half the country is going. To be immediately against your side. But also, I think politicians are no longer really are our leaders in what we really needed after sandy hook was also the parents of the kids speaking out. And and of course, we thought that's great spokespeople. This is incredibly powerful person. Someone who lost a kid? You know, what adults can never be the spokes people what we needed was this is horrifying for me to say these words, but we needed to target when we see David hog or Gonzalez or any of these other kids, we don't just see a kid who escaped with their lives. We see the face of future victims and everybody was a kid in school everyone. I'm not a Deb nieces and nephews, and I work with so many kids. Everybody's got a sibling friends that cares about kids. They see another kid who's going to die. And when when Jackie and David and Emma and Cameron all these people speak to us. We know they're speaking the truth, and we see the future victims, and they're going to die people like them are going. We've allowed people like them to die for twenty years and done nothing, and that's powerful and the truth hurts, and we realize we've been kind of despicable, and we have left these kids down in that never happened before. So the right messenger, really changed everything the right messenger. And in many cases, the right messenger with access not only to the media. But social media we're going to stick with us. And we're gonna get a little bit inside what it was like for the kids in the aftermath of the shooting when they organized, and when they reached out to others across the country to make their movement. Not just a movement of wealthy white kids in south Florida. But a movement of all students across America who don't wanna face violence anymore. Stick with this one. Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from legalzoom if you want to make twenty nineteen the year, you finally start a business or secure your family's future. Legalzoom can help with their network of independent attorneys. Licensed in all fifty states legalzoom can help you navigate your legal needs from wills and trusts to LLC's trademarks contract, reviews and more and the best part is legal zoom is not a law firm. So they don't charge by the hour. More at legalzoom dot com slash NPR castle mountain high is different from a lot of other high schools this student. He got shot four times to stay outside and like Hege bullets. He ought to go to my head. I'm Sam Sanders. One year after parkland, we talked to kids who faced gun violence every single day. Listen on it's been a minute from NPR. This is one A. I'm Todd's will sitting in for Joshua Johnson. Today. We're talking about the March for our lives movement and the activists who led the charge last year, Dave Cullen, you made the case at the top that we haven't advanced zero feet zero inches that the that the park land kids did make some progress even in their first election, but let's go back a little bit. Take me inside those very early hours in early days after the shooting. We all watched the horrific sort of aftermath from helicopter television cameras in cable news when news of the shooting broke on February fourteenth. And then in the hours afterward, David hog and Meghan solace and camera Caskey and others there bewildered, and they're traumatized understandable. And then then what what happens. Well, there was a quiet explosion of going on on social media that afternoon that evening where the the Park Lane. Kids were connecting with each other in realizing the sense of outrage, and what was what was going on? And that they were kind of formulating this idea of they needed to fight back this time and really rejecting that whole thoughts and prayers Bs and needed to do something and really three different kids set out on three different courses, which would be merged in a few days that they had no idea something the other because we're doing something completely different. So Jackie corn started organizing this trip to Tallahassee for to do something immediately within the first week to take busloads of kids to Tallahassee and confront the governor. And the state legislature. David Hogg was getting on TV and being the first person out of the box. Really starting this uprising on national television. And speaking out came in Kaski, did something really probably most important of all he was posting on social media and saying this is this has got to stop. This is unacceptable. I'm not sure what to do yet. None of them weren't sure had like the answers. But he said, I don't know what to do. I need help. Who will join me? Come join me figure this out. He went to bed, and he created he credited new profiles on all different social media and said contact me on any of these different places. He woke up in the morning. And his inboxes were full and people were showing up at his house. All these other kids with the same feeling like yes, we need to do something. I don't know what to do either. He organized the team and within two days. He had two dozen kids in his living room. Figuring this out Jackie what his house was that. This house. David was a house Emma Gonzalez who know new was about to blow up as massive star a day later a Saturday. The team was there. They were working out figuring out together on Saturday. Emma, gave that we call ES speech, which just electrified America, all Americans like, okay, we're ready something's going to happen. So they they joined forces with different ideas, and different approaches and different talents. And then they were off to the racist. We got a tweet from mystic warrior in Alexandria, Virginia. Who said are there examples of similarly inspired conservative activism, less affluent inner? City kids have been speaking out for decades. Where is the media coverage of that? And Dave that goes right into something important in the early days of this movement that that I wanted you to speak on because you talk about in your book, how parkland students realized pretty quickly in this early sort of embryo stage of their movement that their situation wasn't like the violence that many other kids in other environments experience every single day, and I wanna play a clip from one of the student activists that you followed. This is Jacqueline corn. You mentioned her in a speech that she gave at the March for lives March in Washington last March is the heart of this movement. But just as a heart needs blood. Pump. My hometown needs the alliance of other communities to properly spread this message, we openly recognized that we are privileged individuals and would not have received as much attention. If it weren't for the affluence of our city. Because of that. However, we stared the siege today and forever with those who have always stared down the barrel of a gun. Dave Cullen you write in the book. And I'm quoting here. It became clear quickly that suburban students feared violence inside their school once in a lifetime, but horrific and that other kids feared violence getting there at the bus stop on their porch walking out of church it could happen anywhere. And it did. And this is a sentiment that you write about driving the parkland kids to reach out and linkup with kids in other communities, and it was really important for them. I think as adults don't realize quite how tuned high school kids today are when they were watching all the previous horrors these other shows, they were already irritated and frustrated and kind of sick. And that the media went up dick about people like them getting attacked, and we're ignoring for the most part and kind of shrugging our shoulders and not knowing what to do about all the black and Brown kids dying. In south siders, Chicago, Baltimore confidence, so forth. So they already thought this was terrible day one. And so when it happened to I mean, the day negative, whatever. So when it happened to them right away. They wanted to do something about that. And so they were talking about that. And how to do that they weren't quite sure. How to go about it? And they also didn't want to be like the white Xavier's. Okay. We'll do this for you. They wanted to partner with those kids, and they weren't sure how to do it and Arne Duncan actually went to father Pfleger who's sort of like a great pastor in Chicago. Who's a mobilizer of the African American community in an anti gun and said like who are the really smart kids were doing something in Chicago. And he rounded up these activists who were, you know, the peace warriors and kids from an organization called brave and some others who are doing great things ain't getting no attention with no budget doing amazing things in their school on a Friday night on. On March first two weeks later, they got an part in touch with apartment kids and said, you know, would you want to meet with these kids the parkland kid said, yes, we don't want to wait another week is is it possible that come tomorrow because you know, everybody's in high school like they can only do it on weekends. And they didn't want to wait another week. So. Chicago people said, let's get back to you like at eleven o'clock at night hours skiing. Toby, I got the tax, and he said hell, yes, I'll be there. So the church funding got them on a plane. The next day. They were Emma Gonzalez is house that were nearly a dozen kids from Chicago, and it's not just the south side from the west side, and they met at her house and had this amazing meeting back and forth. And totally this stories that learn so many different things. And by the way, we learn about Chicago kids told them up Martin Luther King six principles which made a huge impact on them. But from fifty forward they were partners and working on them. And then they went into many other communities, but especially these kids, and then Alex in the Angelo, we're also appeared at the March for our lives I with neon duct tape over their mouth where they appeared on stage and ripped it off and spoke and sorry. I get choked up at a couple of these things because I mean that was symbolically we have been silo. This is how you have been treating us. They actually told me later on that. Actually was the brave group. They they put together a press conference a couple years ago were they had teachers and community leaders in all sorts of different people in Chicago from major press conference to get you know, the invited national media all the different social X, Chicago, press and. No one showed up, and it was so disheartening, but they did it. Anyway, it was like an hour long program. They said, you know, we're going to do it for ourselves and each other. And that's what they were dealing with. Like, what are they this huge thing? Nobody showed up, and so and the parkland kids are embracing and so they they've kind of emerged these two different movements because the urban African American groups who have been fighting this cause for a while. So hell, yes, we'll join you and you'll help bridge the medium, we'll do this again. And it's been a great to me. That's the most beautiful thing that has happened out of all this, and I had no idea that would be a big part of this. But you know, kids have a different perspective on race in America. Really? And they're like, we're not doing this. We're not just doing this for white kids come out there's this. There's scene in your book where the Chicago kids come to Emma's house. They have pizza they swim in the pool. Then they start to knock their heads together. Either you told part of the story just there the six principles from Dr Martin Luther King the kids from Chicago brought and then the movement on flashing forward comes up with five demands. They wanna focus it down. They wanna boil it down. Universal background checks is one. I think that everyone is familiar with what else? Mattis about let me try to remember a couple of someone like basic things like that. And then a couple were behind the scenes thing that the FDA would be allowed to study this right CDC's study gun violence. There's been abandoned congress for many years. I think there was an assault weapons ban in there as well. A couple of other policy issues, we got this from AC Monroe in Pittsburgh who tweeted ninety seven percent of Americans. Support commonsense gun legislation. Unfortunately, not even forty five percent of American show up to vote. So until we get a majority of Americans who actually show up to vote gun legislation is dead on arrival sad. But true, and Dave Cohen that brings me back to one other just sort of hard political question that came to my mind is I was reading this this this narrative of the kids demands in their political activism. There is overwhelming support for universal background checks. We know the NRA plays it outsized role in politics that politicians are afraid of. A primary challenge if they're not a plus on guns with the NRA is it that simple a policy like like eighty three percent or eighty five percent of people say that they're for universal background checks. And it still can't pass. Did you learn anything about the actual mechanics of that? Yes. Very much. And here's the dirty little secret of politics. It's not just eighty eighty five percent of the public or more. Congress people are really educated people. It's at least that number or more of congress. Most Republicans one of vote for these these are sensible things the list of five demands are fairly moderate most people in congress. They could vote their conscience and just do what they wanted would be overwhelmingly voting for this. But the NRA I don't know if it's appropriate, but really had gun to their head and then threatening for a generation that we will end your political career if you take us on and it has. This bowling tactic. And it's been this threat, which which blew up this year. And really looking at the numbers at an event is only part of the story the much bigger story is it. Evaporated that punched a hole in that paper tiger. No one believes that anymore, including Republicans who are running on it. And a lot of Republicans in swing districts, like bucks county, actually opposed the NRA and ran on a gun safety agenda. The NRA could succeed. I was shocked by the numbers. They only spent eleven million dollars this cycle. That's pocket change in politics. But by intimidating most of the field they they can only run in a few races. They intimidate everyone. So they're afraid of a primary challenge. So they get their way by scaring, everyone into it. Now people believing that myth has been bust, and you talk about intimidation, and we talked about the social media activism of the park students. So let's go back to the early days of this activists and the NRA goes quiet for a while. And after the attack it's according to their mass shooting playbook, they always do this. And then the group goes on the attack right around the time of the Oscars in early March. There's there's tons of vilification and attacks on these kids as soon as they speak up in this debate. Here's a little bit of sound, for example, from an NRA TV YouTube host calling out the students March on. Acknowledge the heroism bravery of blank Gaskill, the Maryland school resource officer who stopped the mass shooter in his tracks. And saved the lives of every innocent kid in that school to all the kids from parkland getting ready to use your first amendment to attack. Everyone else a second amendment at your March on Saturday. I wish he hero like Blaine had been Marjory Douglas high school last month because your classmates would still be alive, and no one would know your names this kids ought to be marching against their own hypocritical. Belief structures they hate machines that caused death except hold on. No, you ain't never gonna take their cars away. Dave that's pretty tame compared to the Twitter at mentions that a lot of these kids had around this time, just take a quick minute here. Walk me through how the March for our lives students adapt and respond once they get attacked in their mentioned start blowing up on the Oscars. I thought we were gonna play the the sort of times up hourglass thing. Dana is it where does Dana Loesch. Yeah. Did the kids saw that. And they. They like, okay, we need to respond to that. And they had this kind of amazing response video but also went viral, and I think got more than a million hits the first day everybody thought that was kind of great. I see the backstory on that these guys I call the memes man, which I met a month out when Jackie and got to prove to let me into their secret headquarters, and I was kind of amazing she'd give me a quick toward media hadn't been in there. So she's just showing me like, you know, everything's like here's the bathroom. Here is the you know. You know of storage room. And here's the writer's room, and I'm like the writer's room, and I didn't say anything at first because I try not to like intimidate sources are and then, you know, Matt dike who I met who seem to running a lot of a mexic- who's this guy? So I asked if I could talk to me he's like, oh, yes. Comeback. It. Let's do it in the writer's room. Like, okay. The writer's room looks at me. He's like, what do you think? This stuff is writing and self. Oh, and then I talked to Dylan buyer lane. Who's really the kids like creative with all this stuff? And I hit him walk me through their to most effective means including that one. So he's talking about the scripts in like, oh, so it's real it's a real. It's a real operation. We'll take. 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If you think the news is a joke. Wait till you hear our show new podcast. Episodes are available every Saturday. On speaking with David Cullen, author of park land birth of movement, Dave Cullen, you took us inside the writer's room of the early days of the March for our lives movement is they were constructing their means getting on social media. One of the recognizable faces you've mentioned him as David hog young man, nicely quaffed hair. Very good on television. It should be said that David Hogg does or did. At least take the bait in these debates, not only on social media, but on television. He's a debater. He's combative by nature in dozen always play by the rules that the group agreed upon when they're doing this. Right. David the most trouble. So one of Martin Luther King six principles like the biggest one they focused on is that when there's an injustice of the person is not your enemy. It is about the it is about the system or what's causing injustice. Not the person in do not demon. That person and these kids had strict rules about that and dividend David struggle with that the most because he is kind of pugilists at hard. He strikes back. He's a counterpuncher. So he is short fuse. And he needs to I think today he's much better than he was. But so he tries thir- imperfect doing this. You know, so she's also seventeen. Yes. Exactly. Right. Right. Exactly. Thank was. Yeah. Right. He's seventeen seventeen and like he lost people his sister. You know, this is a bit of an exaggeration. But he said he he started this became active to get out of the house from his sister Lauren because he couldn't bear to be with her. And I spent a lot of time with Lauren, and she was the closest one I sort of the Columbine kids with vacant stares. She scared me and really over. The course of ten months I could see in her face her improvement. Thank God, she kept getting better. But early on being that house with her was really angering him and she lost four friends, and she was shoes she was in rough shape, and he had a visual minder everyday over breakfast and dinner and through this is what this is what this does and it was frigging pissing him off. And so he was always able to to check his emotions play by all the there's the trauma of the. Event there's the trauma at home and the symptoms that accrue after witnessing awful violence and seeing it in someone's faces forget about your Twitter at mentions and people saying nasty things about you on television. You report that these kids traveled around to events and got followed in some cases by counter protests. Protesters toting semiautomatic weapons a show of force. That's that's a different kind of of confrontation. It is group. Followed them across Texas. They decided to spend four days of their summer BUSTER across America in Texas to go right to gun country, more than half of it was in gun country and a group follow them around. Every event was semi-automatic weapons probably loaded or you know, the kids didn't know and the kids point out the last time most of them had seen that weapons was when the swat teams busted into the rooms, which is really traumatizing pointing in a weapons of better heads in case the killer was in that room. Something could struck drop inside back and bother me. Like, whatever I was. You know, it's a stunt something kids it really got to them. I'm also noticing a lot of people are writing in a little skeptical, maybe even some of them a little bit irritated by the positive tone. Maybe that they hear in your voice or maybe of this conversation between you and me a because it was such a horrific tragedy. People rightly feel awful about it. They don't feel positive in happy about it. But your book is one about activism, but also one of hope for the future. I mean, the end of the book is not a period of sentence. It's next chapter twenty twenty. This is a movement built to last or supposed to be exactly. And I take my cues from the victims. And when I was with those parkland kids is like this is their agenda. That's what they wanna do. They're hopeful about changing this. And you know, who are we the outsiders? I know you need to be somber. And like, you know, how dare you react and certain they. Come on. They also they want to change America. They are changes. Like, let's get behind them. Not as adults tell them what to do and how to feel and how to act or that we all need to like not have hope because this is a a sad topic. That was their number one thing. Don't just give us your thoughts and prayers. We don't want you morning force. We want you to do something about it. So other kids don't die. Dave yearbook ends on twenty twenty in. What these kids have in store for the future? They are getting back to college. Some of them are still active. Some of them are trying to go back to normal life. And here's the question that lingered in the back of my head reading your book the whole time, especially at the end what about being a normal kid? What about that being able just to do your freshman year like a normal kid? Yeah. That's a hard thing that a lot of it's up the window. You know, Emma, talked about getting into college as let's face it celebrity and going to a small college in the first day. She didn't like the fact that she showed up like everybody there knew she was in kind of knew about her. And she wanted to be a normal kid. But that can't you know, they'll have normal lives, but for for this segment of their lives, at least, well, I had full of are household names. Maybe the most people don't know most of that. They don't know who Jackie corden is they don't know who L fons has. But they also Vicks hefted that you know, that that's part of what comes with the territory that'll be get to be completely normal. But they're having the education of their lives as normal. No, there's no normal. But the future is bright for them in these kids are working hard to make a future that's brighter for the rest of the country, not only in their community and parkland, but in other communities as well the kids that they've teamed up with I'll give listeners the last word author wrote us on Facebook. These kids are going to change the world. I am so proud of them. Well, Dave Collin? Thanks to you for joining. Dave Collins book is parkland birth of movement. He also wrote the definitive work Columbine on the Columbine school shooting in Colorado. Dave, thanks so much. Thanks todd. And I'm really proud of those kids to well. It's great to have you. So many of us are proud of them a true American activists. 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