August 10: Pressing on

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Tonight pressing on journalists in Hong Kong say they won't be deterred from reporting on politics and the regions pro democracy movement despite an alarming rate on a major newspaper and its founder Competitive Advantage researchers in the UK compare thousands of soccer matches from before and during the pandemic, the head researcher tells us he may have figured out what home field advantage is really all about ship wrecked oil pouring from a damaged cargo ship near the island nation of Mauritius has turned. It's clear blue waters black. Our guest says it may be about to get much. Worse. Laying the ground when India's Prime Minister laid the cornerstone for a controversial new. Hindu temple our guest says he was also laying the groundwork for the further mistreatment of Muslims in the country we remember singer and performer slow me bay. She died over the weekend at the age of eighty six a friend and colleague tells us what made her Canada's First Lady of the Blues and Kitty quitter key political operative in the Foreign Office has resigned surprising his many fans his duties included photo ops with visiting dignitaries and killing as many mice as possible. As happens the Monday edition radio that nosy pounds of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Staffers at next digital and it's apple daily newspaper in Hong Kong. Say they'd been expecting some kind of crackdown but that didn't make today's police raid on their offices. Any less jarring this morning officers stormed into the building questioned reporters rifled through their belongings and left with more than two dozen boxes of documents at the same time. Police arrested next digital founder Jimmy Lai along with a number of other company executives and political activists. Mr Lies is the highest profile arrest yet under Hong Kong's controversial. Security Law and Chris Young says, it's a frightening attack on press freedom Mr Young is the chair of the Hong Kong journalists. Association we reached him in Hong. Kong. Chris. Tell me about today's police operation. We're talking what hundreds of police officers involved right yes. What we bought until hundred. Is. Unprecedented I, think we had never seen such A. Massive safe police raid at the media organizations. In Hong Kong full full full many case I. Myself have never seen such an in his horrifying I think to a lot of journalists are having seen. Police officers around every corner of the newsroom. In addition, of course, to we had the raid on the apple daily offices, Jimmy Lai, number of others were arrested. What do we know about the other individuals who were detained today? most of them are senior executives in the bowl of a Nixon. Media Group Of course, the details are unclear at this moment all of. The the main thing of course will be initiative security law which carries. A maximum sentence of life imprisonment. and their case at least ten years in jail. If convicted it just happened at the police arrests in a student leader Atlas Child on suspected rich of a national security law. So it seems that now about one in the Hoffman's all after the there should security me fat they have kind of intensified the the enforcement and perhaps more cases of arrests follow by prosecution will follow. This almost this exact scenario is what everyone was so concerned about when this new national security law was was passed and was introduced a I mean you know Jimmy Lai's made no secret of his criticisms the Communist Party he's been arrested many times in the past with this new law in place. What makes his arrest? So different this time. the the low I think will become a pretty powerful say political tour to send to jail because I one major crime, you will be facing his collusion with foreign forces which is illegal define and be say politically manipulated. To say, coca a case. We don't know whether it will be at the case will be even a how in local call it because under the law, the the mainland authorities have say decision to say I have power designs say whether that case should be Okapi Hendel in Maine Courts but even on call 'cause the the protection to say defendants is highly questionable because the law. Is being written in the way that is well, you get serious trouble deal. If you face if you face charges of those crimes, all what what do we know at this point about what this raid really means for his media company next digital the apple daily newspaper I mean are they going to be able to continue publishing? In the short run of course. The they have a lot of support in this society is a protest and there's a sense of crisis. So one indicator, of course, is a share prices up sharply because of supporters buying the shares and and some even said that they're going to buy the newspaper moral you even you carry nothing but just right paper. So I think that's the kind of a sentiment. Among their supporters and among the Mauka support us here. But that may be short run in It probably won't take long for the newspapers to face be. Hot. Times in for instance stabilizing their stuff sentiments. giving promises on how they're going to carry on their work without facing threats to the personal safety of journalists. They have already faced problem in getting advertisement and for many years because also the political trouble Jimmy Lai was was facing saw. Advertised says a fear of offending China so avoid putting ads in the newspaper so they can only survive on say street sales and also supporters and others also. So the major source of advertising revenue already been cut because of political reasons. So they they will face mall both difficulties He knew well, even in the short runs, the change that we're seeing has come. So quickly I mean over the summer, we've seen a bunch of arrests pro democracy candidates disqualified from elections pro democracy scholars fired from their jobs the upcoming elections been delayed by year, and now all of this when you sorta pile all those things together, what do you now expect to happen what's coming next? I think a lot of people here in Hong Kong now just don't have high expectations that the well live will return to normal in the near in the Niran Be We're going to face a lot of unknowns, uncertainties, supplies says. And Anthony ugly scenes. I like what we see now today in in the newsroom in this building journalists have expect that what have happened in a society like Hong Kong people here I will rations they they build up as a very successful Hong call from nothing, but it seems that within months we ain't what we are doing a lot of south destructions. Of what we have done. In the past case food hot work and diligence and and an enterprising spirit of our older generations. Very Sad. It's very sad development phonecall. It's It's been quite something to watch from afar as well. Chris. Thank you so much for making the time today. Thank you. Chris Young is the chair of the Hong Kong. Journalists Association. We reached him in Hong Kong and for more on this story visit our website at CBC dot. CA SLASH AI H. It's by far the worst oil spill Mauritius has ever experienced on July twenty fifth Japanese cargo ship ran aground on a coral reef just off the small island in the Indian Ocean and since then nearly a thousand tons of oil have leaked into the ocean and onto the shore, the spill has damaged important ecological habitats and left the island scrambling to save already endangered animals. Now, residents fear that the ship which still has oil on board is about to break into Senio. Dorka sing is a former global strategist for Greenpeace and former member of parliament. He's been taking part in the recovery efforts. We reached him incur- PEOP-, Mauritius. Do Arcus and you've been at the site of this spill. Can you describe what you saw when you were there? What what I saw was like a horrible stream of black substance. Coming ride from the reefs and and slowly dispersing around on the shoreline and this was like heavier very thick. Nostra smelling heavy oil was deposed. You did on the shoreline of Mauritius more than fifteen kilometers of Costa shoreline has been. Impacted by pollution and can you give us a sense of what kind of damage had? This has already caused the ecosystem? Where they shipped wrecked The she's in the locker room the largest wounded we have on the island. Like who used to be a query and two thousand one when sentence extraction was. Banned and what during San, extraction all these like and coral were killed. It was literally dead everywhere, and now after fifteen years we saw course regenerating in this whole going. So I see an hour this spilled we might be losing the stock will again. Citizens have really answered the call when this emergency struck, they've been taking it upon themselves to do what they can to protect the coast, protect the wildlife, paint a picture for us of what people are doing. What first of all, it was a sense of revolt. When this happened because you should as most you know that the shift wall stay on on on the reefs and twelve days no offer these government didn't react to it to anything about a lot this wreckage I don't know why what they were waiting for to act. So that created that was sense of revolt when when when they will this. But then their first reaction was lettuce mitigate the pollution and by themselves and by the by the by the changes spirit the built up locally made a booms out of sugarcane strolls, using plastic bottles and all and stop it. Going inside the lagoon and relate on all these locally made boom so that a pretty to prevent further spreading of the oil that was already in the water and that was very very, very effective I can say, so yes, the society is very, very much involved. It's their country it's the island it's their beach. So they love their places and they want to fight against disposition. You talk about these locally made booms that people are. Making to to try to to to control the oil that's in the water I I read somewhere that people are actually cutting off their own hair to to help create these booms. What's going on there? Yeah. In fact, in fact it's known technique. It's known technique that Gross Hale and like you know stores and all the hall of the Military and capacity to contain all I, think one Kiddo of and eighty of oil. So, and and if you see pictures of these booms, really are really effective. My goodness and They've they've done something. Fantastic. outs off. As you say, the ship was on the reef for like ten or twelve days. What do we know what this point about how this happened? Well how this? Is Very strange story and and we don't know much in fact it's now that that enquiries being carried out because the staff and I think the captain will he can in current time. But what I can tell you is like what we what we learn is like. They entered our water our national goes Scott. Tried to reach out to the captain and for two hours continuously. The country wants not answering any phone, call the only phone, call the captain answered according to our National Coastguard. When was when she was already on the rich to see to send an SOS or I'm grounded now on the race but this inquiry that have started will window more in the days to come. We've already seen and you've described this horrific damage that's taken place. But the the concern now is that this ship that's already leaking will literally split into two and spit even more oil into the water how devastating with that be let me tell you that since yesterday there has been no leakage from the. Reason being that the tank that was damage has been successfully emptied by the local authorities, but they'll still two tanks on the ship and where you still have two thousand, five, hundred domes of your and heavy oil they are. So if that is not being removed and by by any accident in the days to come. This oil is still on the shape and she breaks into which is most probably going to happen so. If that happens and if we haven't cleared all the oil from this, the remaining oil from the tanks. I I just imagined what's going to happen I'm afraid. I'm afraid of when I when I tried to visualize that scene. How are people on the ground reacting to seeing what kind of devastation can be caused by a spill like this they sense of revolt in the country. If you look at the social media, if you look at how people are reacting and claiming that the minister, the minister responsible must resign and go so they sense of revolt but that sense of revolt was overtaken by this love for the country and tried to save it first. So People House like turned down there the anger in to trying now to Perth even trying to prevent further damage to way because he's Stanford managed to our show line you don't it was like so -vivor instinct but that sense of anger is still there. All right. We'll have to keep an eye on it but thank you so much for making the time to speak with us today. Thank you. So Neil Dorka sing is an environmentalist and former member of the parliament. We reached him incubate peop-. Mauritius. A Long. Long. Wait no we each. I'm just a woman. Who? Only When you should feel. That is Salami basing I am blue from one, thousand, nine, hundred album I like your company Salami Bay had many talents as a performer. She was a singer and actor a writer and a director or work in music and theatre won her many awards the of Canada and also the reputation is Canada's first lady of the Blues Salami Bay died this weekend. She was eighty six years old here. She is speaking with ski and morningside in Nineteen eighty-one. BLUES IS A. Something that we all get I'm not saying, we can all sing it. But It's it's commenting on. What is down feeling in our lives I mean. They can be a happy approach to the blues. Also, you can talk about my man show loves me and I love the way he loves me you know and that's nice. And I think we can all. We can all the blues. What is it is it is it partly that it's so close to real life that it's folk music in the real meaning of folk music that makes it so rich and to to sing into listen to I. I think that's it. I mean you know like if if I go into a club and I hear a Etta James. Or? You know whatever one is considered as jazz one is considered as blues once considered as rhythm and blues and an I get the same feeling. To me these are all categories they put us in I guess this full commercial reason you know, and then this is a folk music country and Western and I listened to. Willie Nelson. In a wasting saying blues, but it's called country and Western. And I listened to somebody else saying blues in its call Rhythm and Blues and somebody else saying, blues as call pop. So I don't know I don't know I. I myself get a little turned off with all these names. Salami Bay speaking with Peters ski the host of Morningside in February nineteen eighty-one. Ms Bay died on Saturday. Daryl ally was her production director for many years. He was also her friend. We've reached him in Toronto. Their unsold. Sorry for your loss. How are you doing? I'm doing. Well, thank you very much. I'm so glad our producer found that clip of Salamis speaking with Peter Saskia morningside what was it like for you to hear your friend talking about the blues and what it meant to her? Well it brought back great memories because she was so much of a champion of black music in general and trying to break down barriers was also pack of. Disease she really enjoyed explaining those things. Because Basically Salami understood that Blues Music was at the root of American Popular Music that the Georgia Sea Island singers were as important as any pop group that America had produced and that you could find it and as she said in Willie Nelson her and country music and folk was always there sort of underneath everything else of course and I, mean when we think of liquor? Richard Buddy guy he's A. Completely different styles of music. In the sense of what they represent, but the root of it is exactly the same music, the same cards. And the same type of expression. Tell us about the first time. You saw slow me Bay perform what what do you remember about that night. I remember being pretty much thunderstruck mid I saw because I had not met before I had not known. Anything about it as a matter of fact, her husband who was a friend and associate wanted to me go and see my wife performing namely pseudo. Maybe she's at Global Village. and. Introduce yourself afterwards back snitch. And then here comes this. punning. Black woman with African features and the most middle diffuse contralto voice I mean. She could go from deep deep down all the way up and from a whisper to a scream with tremendous range and. For me, it was mind blowing would probably be the best expression. No I mean her talent of singing translated into musical theatre as well. Tell us what you remember most about her her contribution to. Well I worked. In a drama at one stage radio no music whatever and I remembered how no-one's to performance was and how careful she was about going about doing that and then of course, I worked with with indigo which was the groundbreaking a shattering. MUSICA in. TORONTO. which transformed. For many of us, black performers, black artists, the industry because here she was she was writing this thing for a long time and I remember doing backers. Additions is five, seventy six. We're just my cellphone Haina microphone under like a follow spot. She pushed and pushed and decided that I wanted to do this with all those black artists in town who don't get regular jobs in. Because I know them. I know they're good and we're GonNa do this rich she refused to compromise. What was it? Was it just that sort of genuine nature of it what was it about the production of indigo that just made it so successful I think one of the things just the energy indigo a bathroom. None of the songs in in Indigo, when you in that sense too many people were known but to us, they were not mu. But because of what Salami had envisioned, we had a collective energy that decided that we are going to make this great and we found ways. To inject that energy into the show at every level of the show and that was it audiences game and rural appreciation. Every night we were sold for thirteen months nonstop. Just Mathis. This tells us so much about the artist about the performer. Tell us a bit about what slummy money was like off the stage as as your friend. She was so marvelous I. It's amazing. She was complex. All off offstage she was Djamil. She was quiet almost shy. Sent to to to speak unless she actually knew she was guided but she was devoted to family and friends. She was tender She's also very political for example, with Indigo said, we have to make this statement about like artists in Toronto. We have to show them that we deserve a spot in the brake light like everybody else, and that's how I got my break and that's how. Many other people got their breaks because Salami pave that road and insisted that will good enough. Let's show them who we are P was busy with. Organic Sushi was. About the environment about civil rights about mankind about humanity, she was that company and at the same time she was a hurricane force. When we look back at Salamis Legacy, what do you think it will be Canadian Blues and and Canadian music I am overjoyed already see what she has left I'm sure people like her contemporaries perhaps younger like. To Borough tabby. Johnson has always had a good career jet Jackie Richard Soon the Sean Jackson's The. Are Speaks Dan Brooks they all came through that seventies era and they all got more notice after indigo. We all did and today when I hear Julie Black. Some other young black senior I go. Thank God. Salami was to make that breakthrough because before that don't forget doors were largely closed. We did pieces of Indigo in the Eaton Centre, as at lunchtime to make people we don't. Go you were doing. Yes. We we did off all sorts of stuff like that. You know. But we needed to break. We needed to break down to do and that we really exist and we could actually do. As. Well as anybody else in performing. Well, it's an amazing story and it's an amazing life and Daryl I'm just so grateful you're able to come on and share some of these stories with us today. Thank you very much. I appreciate the opportunity and I still continue to live in the inspiration that just left by me and live with a commitment to delivering the best that we can all time. She was. No doubt. All right. Well, thanks so much. You're welcome. Thank you very much. Good. Darrell away is both a friend and former colleague of Salami Bays Ms Bay died on Saturday she was eighty six. The. He smashed pretty much every billboard and streaming record that matters it has already been streamed more than a billion times people still to this day point to this is the moment everything changed. But whether you agree with those claims are not this podcast isn't really about him either you're not an astute businessman or you're inherently racist when it comes to black music in this country, this is not a drake podcast available now on CBC listen or wherever you get your podcasts. That I'm wrong. From you. To. US Once Mall. Man. Giant wheel. But I do wish to say that official that I'm wrongfully right now. Uncover season seven. Dead Wrong. Killed Tipple if they ask ninety nine. Available on CBC listen and wherever you get your podcasts. When professional soccer players returned to the pitch this summer they were greeted with silence. No cheers claps certainly no ole-ole as soccer during a pandemic means once packed stadiums sit empty and the rowdy chance from home supporters are replaced with the sounds of a ball being kicked around field but researchers at the University of reading saw an opportunity in the strange spectacle of covid era soccer they compared more than six thousand, four, hundred matches played before, and during the pandemic with the goal of finding out what effect live crowds have on the home team's chances economics professor James Read was part of the study we reached him in Didcot England. I read what happens to a team's home advantage when there aren't any fans in the stands. is a little bit less noise huge amount less. You might expect it to be a lot less especially given. There are no funds, the shouting and cheering especially wedding Germany all the known themes couldn't win, but we're looking at seventeen countries and six thousand matches. We find out you the effects is is not fight bigotry. And yet the one area that did seem to get affected was the behavior of referees showing what have we see fewer yellow cards to way teams. There's enough. The awaiting seem to be less harshly punished if you like they get still yellow cards in these matches, not fact he's really quite struggled really quite significant suggesting that it is the referees while there anything else because we're looking at these are the specs of the game the goals scored the outcomes even red cards. the same kind of effect it seems that the batteries are being influenced at being influenced by the crowd. Laugh or not when the crowd's not there. What do you think explains that? Is that just the crowd getting on the raft to try to goad him into into to calling yellowcard. There's a lot of evidence or quite a bit of evidence out there about social pressure on vessels. So when this? Crowd President, it does have some kind of influence. So the studies of how Directories Watch fouls on Games. With the sound turned off on a video number determined turned on and they call more fouls when the sound is turned on the example of the researchers looked to injury assignment and do games, and if the home team's losing with a bigger crowd, the home team gets more injury-time turn things around. So I mean people are going to pour over this data to try to figure out where they can get an advantage. What does this tell us about what factors might give a team? Any kind of home advantage in a game? Well I think the main thing to say is that it appears to be there for your influence. So we've tried to look at the idea of familiarity as well. So one of the explanation as to why a team will win off when he's playing in its home stadium is more familiar with the surroundings and so one of the audience especially when Germany we started. Was it. The players weren't familiar with playing without fans and low behold once it became more familiar, they began to win more dame's now that might that was certainly true for Germany but is not true over the seventeen countries that we looking. And so the only real thing we left with this referee effect. I guess teams be ethical. They don't want to influence the referee kind of. Way. Totally show what the policy implications of this are the implications for the organizers sports leagues of. Course says. Are Susceptible to social? Time pressure as well. So maybe we need to think about ways in which we would use that pressure on the referees. So maybe that's the real takeaway finishes for the Sports League organizers while on the teams themselves. This article about your your research was bouncing around a what's at Chap, the group that I'm in, and it was all these fans huge supporters of various clubs that are as you probably know convinced that they have a material impact on the outcome of every game. You Know How many times have I heard these guys say I can't come tonight the team needs me defense actually matter when you look at the data. Well I mean I'm a fan myself. Right. So I think that when I've been in my teams I've played a role as well. Yeah. The thing that says I think I. Think we've got to with. This is ongoing research thing that want to tease out little boys, the different kinds of matches. So the way I look at. Founds come. Shortly be a positive influence when they're really chain behind the team and pumps in the team is the underdogs Welt but equally you, we've all been those kinds of games where stadium's half empty and your team's not doing as well as it should against pops Amisi opposition and certifies can build their own helpful towards the teams outcome. So you want to look a little bit more the real nuance, the kind of the intricacies in the relationship between funds and outcomes. We have to matter to some extent. Of understanding a bit more out the detail of that relationship. Now, a lot of the matches, a lot of football matches and indeed the NHL. The National Hockey League are playing matches in neutral venues. In the NHL, we've had to hub cities one in Toronto one in Edmonton both of the host cities were actually ousted from the play in round in the playoffs to play without them. Is there a sense of playing in neutral venues that might actually benefit the underdog in in some of those cases? Thing. Home advantage would help is, of course, the home team is up then the hunting an extra edge. Home advantage so they can remove that home advantage. Obviously helps the team it would away in the first place. So I'm familiar with Edmonton the oilers so I guess they'll play in Chicago and. Some element of of play a game behind closed doors, it used to be in football a punishment funds bathing, bobby twitter's a punishment. There's a belief that it must affect home advantage. Of course, police often end up being self fulfilling them play differently in play differently in these kinds of circumstances. So I think it has to happen to affect. It's just the great thing about I hate to call. covid nineteen a great thing but it's giving us a lot of data a lot of natural experiments to look at about the way in which playing in and out of that natural surrounds playing in different circumstances in football most substrates, drinks, breaks. So on also significant changes that would allow us to analyze think about the ways in which different influences on behavior and actions of some kind of impact. Do. You think is, is there a way we could better insulate referees from the kind of influence that fans do hold once they actually get back into the stands at some point in future. My. Senses. Dalil. Way To do that is is technology and of course, during technology properly as well. So they are in England hasn't been particularly popular. The been lots of controversies you have these has breath humble oil's in place being offside by the by the armpit and things like this But the point is that they are technology takes up pressure away from the officials. It has to be done properly as I say because in football, you've how this situation where the fans in the stadium don't know what's going on. Aiding things and not saying anything actually leaving the referees more the whims of the of the anger of the crowd technology is the way to do it but hopefully you in the right way in trump's bound kind of way. But nonetheless. JUICES THAT SPLIT Second. Free. Has To make a call. Listen, you've inspired some global debates around this stuff were grateful to get you on the show to talk about it. Thanks for doing this today. Thanks very much. James Reid is a professor of economics at the University of Reading. We reached him indeed caught England. Manitoba remains in mourning today on Friday at Tornado touched down near Verdon killing two teenagers. Carter Tilbury, and Shayna Barnett ski were both eighteen years old. They died after the tornado through them from their vehicle and both were from the town of Melita in southwestern Manitoba. Aaron Jack is an amateur storm, chaser. He was taking photographs of the storm on Friday. Night, he spoke to CBC Manitoba's Bryce Hoy. That moment, the tornado had just across the road and hit just hit the farm that's just across the field here from us right now, and so I had run across the road and into the field I wanted to get on the other side of the power lines view at the monster out in the field there. It was remarkable and. I wanted to get that shot that's been really resonate with people have been the one. And it obviously bid had touched down in that video but. What was it like for you to bodily to be so close something like that that as we know today was fatal it killed two people. Yeah. You know a lot of times around tornadoes you get violent winds and whatnot I can expand quite a ways out and this tornado the winds were more compacted and closer the tornado kind of an eerie calm there but will sticking. With me, the most is I know. I. Just witnessed the tornado hit the farmhouse there months clean the house want to get back to that farmhouse and make sure no one was injured or whatnot but I didn't expect when I got to the house. Actually the fine cars have been thrown off the road and fortunately no one was home at the House and the house was okay. Did do some damage grain silos and whatnot and so when I walked up to the car I yelled out the safe anyone was in there and sure enough I heard from the older gentleman that was in the Red Grand. Cherokee there is upside down in the in the ditch me he yelled out that you need help and so I sat there and was talking to him you're. Kind of comfort him while Machel at my fiance was also serves as she called nine one one and we waited fifteen minutes while that was all happening and comforting over and some other people showed up the emt came on was terrible that point we do not other people injured possibly deceased that out in the field and the firemen showed up, they came across some people young couple. Very, tragic news from just graduated from school and they found them out in the field there and y'all tornadoes are the remarkable and they're so dangerous like people have to take them seriously and I think people can sometimes get mesmerized by just all surreal it is and they don't. They don't realize that they're in the path of. Aaron J. Jack is an amateur storm chaser. He spoke with CBC Manitoba's Bryce Hoy. Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi made a trip out of the capital last week that was decades in the making. Almost. Thirty years ago in the northern town of a Yoga Hindu nationalists destroyed a mosque that they believe stood on the birth site of one of Hinduism Central God's Rome. At the time, Narendra Modi was a worker in the Hindu nationalist party and he promised to return to your idea when a temple for ROM would be built on Wednesday moldy laid down the cornerstone for that, temple. While, it may be a moment of healing enclosure for Hindu nationalists. It's a very different different feeling for Indian. Muslims. The destruction of the mosque in Nineteen ninety-two led to riots across India in which thousands died. Run you was just nine years old at the time. She's now a journalist well known for investigating Modi and his political party. We reached MISSI UBE in Mumbai. How does it feel for you personally to see the construction begin on the rump temple. Oh you. I was about nine when the bobby must shit which was a symbol of faith or about two fifty, million Muslims in the country was demolished and anti demolition was like a spectacle of fascism in the country I have memories which I wanted to erase I wanted a closure because that demolition led to the carnage of about a thousand Muslims all over India, and me and my family being displaced from our candy over the years we have seen instances of fascism and communal carnage in India, that in the Mr Harijans pandemic. The Prime Minister of the country who since he hazard? Dibaba in twenty fourteen has only guy. Given a least respond agenda three days ago kind of lays the foundation to a temple over a mosque that was demolished in a criminal act and the Supreme Court van der calls it a criminal act you feel ushered in your own country. You feel that you know you have new respectability as an equal citizen of this country and. Like second class citizen in your own country than a symbol of your feet, it's not just demolished. hindu-nationalist led by Brandon has constructed over it, and it's like a spectacle because the images of it a splash on times square well, and images, not just of the temple being built. But of the Prime Minister himself laying the cornerstone how did his visit his? Involvement in in the construction of this temple go over with with Indian Muslims. Last week Indiana missiles are used to the Prime Minister of India active not just did one point, three, billion Indians but as a Hindu nationalist I as a Hindu man in a Hindu leader for us. So Indian Muslims have had a day fair for the last six years we. Must also remember that Mr Moody was the Chief Minister of Gujarat. In two, thousand and two when a dozen Muslims were massacred over a period of three days and the Supreme Court of India called him a Modern Day Niro who look the other way when innocent Muslims and women on children were butchered so Muslims were used to the idea but to see. Him being the Prime Minister of the country actually attack the symbol of faith for Muslims in the country and lay the foundation stone over a piece of land that was criminally polished by Hindu nationalist I. think it said the agenda for the next few years for Muslims. In the country Muslims have been living with inferior in apprehension it just validated older apprehensions. I mean from a political standpoint at this time in this moment, what do you think the president is trying to say, bye bye presiding over the laying of the cornerstone being so instrumental in the beginning of this construction. Since the Prime Minister in the movie came to cover. The first thing he did was revoked the special status of Chamade all which is the only muslim-majority state in India and because seem decades of insurgency and many offense you disappeared the special status was a healing factor for many committees and slowest thing that you do after you're on to. The second German father in two thousand, nineteen followed by adopting the citizenship amendment act read everybody except Muslims from the neighboring states of India will begin citizenship in India and then following up. With something like this key is sketching to eighty two percent Hindu majority because he knows that says would bank he is not walking to work in inclusive in secular. India is walking tours laying the foundation of a Hindu India because he knows politically the only thing that will a have him and the BJP survive in follow because the government has not Deli word in terms of development unemployment is at an all time high India's economy is an all time. Miss India ranks number three in the highest number of cases, accord nineteen. So in the absence of any development in the absence of any work, the prime minister stalking majoritarianism to stay in power and I think he succeeded in doing that and you can hear some of that in in this speech, he gave in front of the site. He said, you know this temples an instrument to unite the country that the God roms the basis of all. Indian. Culture. Say then to do nationalists who want to pay tribute to what they see as as a sacred site for them are not building inclusive India by building around temple. We must not forget that in nineteen, ninety, two by the bobby mustard was demolished. It was considered a criminal act. This was not the priority for especially for country, which is still enmeshed in fundamentalism just do these off the the construction of Ram Temple a Muslim man was beaten iten rods and sticks, and he bled on the streets he was made the John. Jesse Dombi is. The number of lynchings between twenty fourteen to twenty, nine, hundred, I'll go up to about hundred in which Muslims have been lynched on the agent at their bill has been pulled off and they have been gold as those who eat beef and have been attacked for the religious identity. So I think what has happened is instructional around with has led to the embodiment off the Hindu nationalists who think that it is now right to humiliate Muslim senator dean basis. The whole world has been watching this story unfold I. Wonder what you'd like to see from the international community and what they hear when when they hear the word, I, O the and and see this temple. You know the world has been complicit in its silence because for the last six years, Mr Multi has been floating his Washington majority data agenda and despite the eggs most world leaders have not sent a statement of condemnation especially ran donald trump was in Delhi dispirited when he was taking part in dinner hosted for game and just betty miles of Muslims have. been killed. In anti-muslim garnered a New Delhi and the next day Donald Trump gets a statement that Mr Moody is doing the right thing and it's not just donald trump one leaders who have an important say have looked the other way as Indian democracy. The world's largest democracy goes down under and that is applicable also to the Muslim leaders across the. World who had given me the highest civilian autos for their business interests and have not spoken would about Moody's complicity in in the enabling of hidden India out owed them to protest always international energy to make sure the wolves dot largest democracy remains seconal inclusive country that again, meaning Hindus across the world should make their voices loud and clear in their. Condemnation of the making of Kim do state as opposed to what India used to be a secular democracy that the dreams of Gandhi at Mahatma Gandhi who we all quote Anhui reveal. This country means the land of Gandhi. So it's time the wall speak southern. It's time Indians advil meaning Indians all over the blog speak up about this everyday decline a fandango fascism. You thanks for speaking with us today. Thank you so much. Ube is journalist in Mumbai and that is where we reached her. As you no doubt been hearing on the news a sudden departure of a high level bureau cat has left the public in the British reeling the resignation of Palmerston chief Mouser at the UK's for an office came out of nowhere giving many pause. In his official resignation letter posted on twitter Palmerston rights of the newfound joys of working from home. He says it was the slower pace of corona virus constrained life that led him to realize it was time to step away from office life the black and white rescue cat has held the chief mouser position since two thousand sixteen and his tenure has not been without controversy. He made headlines more than once for his aggressive political style and occasional violent clashes in particular with Larry his esteemed counterpart at number ten Downing Street. Nevertheless, Palmerston has by and large been a model diplomat often photographed with visiting dignitaries and executing his duties with dedication that was nothing short of Rochas. A colleague reminisced on twitter about the time. He left quote a slightly chewed dead mouse next to my desk end quote in his resignation letter Palmerston noted that his new official living quarters in the countryside of him more ample time to engage the local rodent population are replacement has not yet been appointed, but no doubt will soon since you know. Cats people love them. You've been listening to the as it happens podcast our show can be heard Monday to Friday on CBC. Radio. One. Following the world at six you can also listen to the show on the web at CBC dot Ca Slash Ah. Thanks for listening. I'm Peter Armstrong. I'm Ali Hassan. Dan. From For more CBC PODCASTS TO CBC DOT CA slash. PODCASTS.

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