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Barbara McDonald here hosted the brand new podcast from h down the hill. The Delphi murders. This is the story of teens. Abby Williams and libby German and February 2017 they went for a hike in Delphi. Indiana and vanished. Nearly twenty four hours later their bodies are found also found Libya's phone which chaz video and audio of the killer who remains on the loose. You can listen now on apple podcasts out front next breaking news. Fire trump firing his handpicked European Union ambassador. Gordon Sunlen this. After he fired another key impeachment witness and his brother from the White House today plus sanders sharpening his attacks against Buddha judges. A new poll shows the race tightening. Here in New Hampshire. Is this now a two person race. The Biden campaign. Downplaying chances in New Hampshire. So what's their strategy tonight. Let's go out front and good evening. I'm Erin Erin Burnett. Welcome to a special edition about front. We are live tonight in Manchester New Hampshire where the twenty twenty Democratic presidential candidates are about to square off in their next debate. And we're GONNA and have more on that in tonight but but I we do have breaking news and I want to get straight to it just happening moments ago. President trump exacting revenge on ambassador board and silent. Who of course I was a key? Impeachment witness silent has been fired is releasing a statement reads quote. I was advised today that the president intends to recall me effective immediately as united United States ambassador to the European Union. All right but that's not the only one I mean. This is happening now across the board and other impeachment witnessed Colonel Alexander. Vitamin has been been fired from his White House. Job source telling vitamin A decorated veteran was also escorted out of the White House today by security services. Were no longer needed. His twin brother was was also fired for the White House supposedly because he's his twin brother. Well what drew the president's ire. Why are we now just after his acquittal? Getting all these firings well. Here's what Orden Sunland said under oath. I know that members of this committee frequently frame. These is complicated issues. In the form of a simple question was there a quid pro quo as I testified previously with regard to the requested quested White House call and the White House meeting. The answer is yes and Alexander Van Minh he was was on that July phone call that president trump had with Ukrainian presidents alinsky. What did he say under oath? Listen for yourself. It was inappropriate. It was improper for the president to request and to demand an investigation into to a political opponent opponent especially in foreign power where there's at best dubious belief that this would be a completely impartial investigation. Fired they're both fired now. It was purely presidential payback. According to a statement from Vin. Men's attorney he writes quote. There is no question in the mind of any American. Why this man's job is over? Why this country now is one less soldier serving at at the White House? Colonel Vin was asked to leave for telling the truth is honor his commitment to write frightened the powerful he did what any member of our military is charged charged with doing every day followed orders. You Betas Haute served his country even when doing so was fraught with danger and personal peril and for that the most powerful felman in the world do we buy the silent the pliable and the complicit has decided to exact revenge when you think about the people who have testified. You had two of them fired today. The brother of one fire today to others immediately retired. It's incredible. It's going to the White House now. Caitlyn what else can you tell us about these expiring. That are happening today. And obviously we're just moments ago finding out about ambassador. Sunlen will Aaron what we are seeing tonight here at the White House. Is the president wasted little time and getting retaliation against two of the most prominent witnesses in the democratic impeachment in Korea. Of course Gordon Sunland and Alexander Vitamin the lieutenant colonel. Who was the Ukraine expert at the National Security Council? We're just finding out moments ago about someone's departure being fired from his job after he returned back to Brussels working as you you ambassador for the United States despite his testimony that he had one of the most damning testimonies. You saw the Democrats really utilize what he said against the president more than anyone else but also it comes directly on the heels of that firing this afternoon. Not only just a one impeachment witness but also his twin brother who was also an attorney for the National Security Council that is of course the two brothers who are now expected to go back to the Defense Department. But essentially what you're seeing is a president who feels emboldened by the in fact. He was acquitted this week. And now he is going after two of the witnesses that he has complained about the most since they testified last fall about his relationship with Ukrainian radiant president essentially saying that they believed he was undermining national security. That's what Vincent testified about that phone. Call that the president had where he asked that Ukrainian leader to bring up those investigations into the guidance. And of course someone who we should remind viewers donated one million dollars to the president's inauguration. Not certainly a stranger of the president's and he has also been recalled from his post in Brussels tonight because of what he said in that testimony he draws a pretty clear line to it in his statement to the president but also goes onto the president and the secretary of state for his time here. So essentially Erin. The question is are any other witnesses going to be fired. We are checking on that not right now because there are at least several others who went forward and testified against the president. We should also note that when the president got back here at the White House today from North Carolina. He did not answer Are clearly audible questions about if this is retribution. For these witnesses testifying against the president. I do one thing in wake of that. We did have a Defense Department official Laura Cooper who was testifying about win. This aid was withheld. The questions she had about it. We reached out. We don't have a comment yet. But I should note that the defense secretary said earlier today there would not be retribution for officials who testified at least in his eyes and I guess as far as he can control them. Laura Cooper seems to be the only one the question is tonight and and right now are they're going to be more witnesses. Who will be fired all right? Thank you very much Kaitlyn is. I know we're all trying to get more information on that but I want to go straight now to Mike Quickly Democrat from Illinois. He was on the House Intelligence Committee which is of course heard from all of these witnesses right when this was broadcast to the country. When you I heard Vincent when you heard Sunland when you heard Ivanovich and everyone else Taylor Morrison Homes Williams? They all appeared before you sir so let me get your reaction. We just found out moments ago ambassador. SUNLEN fire The president obviously waited for his indication in the Senate. Do you think things would have gone any differently. Had He gone ahead and fired these people for the vote. This done anything for the listeners. Who Seem so willing to support him? Look it's a rough day after a bad week for our country. I feel like someone should apologize to a colonel van man. He testified twice before committee. What was striking to me? He is what he said when he said I knew I could come forward because I knew in the United States the truth matters. Well I guess the president is showing him as far as ambassador Sunland goes. It took him a while but it's never too late to do the right thing. He did do the right thing. He told the Truth Lincoln ahead his team of rivals. Apparently this president wants a team of synchophant. So let's talk about Sunlen. He testified that Zielinski was willing to do whatever trump wanted including investigations. He said there was a quid. Pro Quo we all remember the president. Of course this this was a guy who donated a million dollars to him right after the DESDEMONA trump. was you know beuerliein right. He was saying Oh the guy said everything I wanted to hear. Well of course he didn't and now he's gone Vin Men also said the same thing right there was a quid pro quo. The president wanted investigations and that his actions were inappropriate. His twin brother was also fired. His twin brother is there anything that can be done about this or is this just some people might be outraged. Some people might not care and move on you know. I hope that at the senators who said that this was a minor matter or that the president has learned his lesson. No he hasn't what I would tell the Republican Halloween senators who covered up this cases. You have in bolden a president who borders on autocratic presidency. You have given him this opportunity to feel like he can do absolutely anything and that ought to be very scary because the president has very tough decisions to make and the best of times and now more critical than ever. But it's clear that there's nobody out there who can say no to him. What's clear is what the Senate has said is if you were president in the future and you have the Senate in the majority if you're partisan the majority of the Senate then you are above the law? All this does right now is is. The president is reinforcing. The case against him. He's going after the witnesses that helped convict him in reality in the house and would have had it been a a fair trial in the Senate now. Of course you would. His defenders have said earlier about Colonel Vitamin and. I'm sure some will say about sunland that this is his right. People work for him. They work at the discretion of the president. And if they don't say things he likes and this is within his rights. What do you say to them? Sure do you really wanNA present United States. That just wants people who tell him whatever he wants that that forces ambassadors like Ianovich doing a good job out of the way so we can do is dirty work move forward with the scheme to go after his political rivals achieve on the next election just because he has the legal right to do. Something doesn't make it morally right and I hope this is an education for the entire American. Can people just what took place this week. This is the aftermath the Shakespeare at its worst. Thank you very much congressman Quigley Wrigley. I appreciate your time Sir. Thank you and next. Our coverage of the breaking news continues trump's Friday night purge. Is this this just the beginning. Three people who testified under oath about the quid pro quo fire tonight and here in New Hampshire tonight no clear leader when it comes to the top candidates so who has momentum coming into the debate where we are in New Hampshire and biting shaking up his staff. Will it be enough. Is Deputy campaign manager is out front this hour. Hey Everyone Andrew Freiden here host of the brand new podcast from H. L. N. down the hill. The DELPHI murders I. This is the story of Abigail Williams Liberty German. They were typical teens into arts softball snapchat and in February of two thousand seventeen they. It went for a hike on a warm day in Delphi. Indiana and vanished nearly twenty four hours after that hike. Their bodies are found in the woods. They've been murdered and the police began working a crime scene. They say they'll never UNSEE also found libby cell phone which has video and audio of the killer who three years later remains on the loose search for down the hill. 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The State Department Laura Cooper at the Defense Department David Holmes at the embassy and Ukraine Jennifer Williams worked for Vice President Pence Transitioning to another State Department job as well chief political correspondent her national political reporter for the New York Times and Ryan Elizabeth chief Washington correspondent for politico. Join me now thanks to all of you so it was already You know than men being fired and his twin brother being and fired. WHO's a lawyer for the National Security Council at the White House but his brother and now all of a sudden Gordon Silent Guy Trump loft said? He's a great guy. Right million dollar donor. Listen this is this is one of those situations where he technically at no. He officially officially has the right to do all of this. The president right. Of course he does and that was actually one of the court arguments that the a lot of the people who were supporting him made about firing revarnish. He has a right to decide who was ambassador is and who who who listen. This is obviously a much different scale. The timing of it is trying to send a signal. I mean it's not like it's thirty. He's being subtle here. The president is sending a signal. You mess with me. You testify against me. You can't work for me and in some ways you could understand if he's donald trump or anybody else. Why would you want to have the people working for you? But at the same time you also have Republicans on Capitol Hill promising that the president learned a lesson and then now this is just another example from the rally in the East Room to several other things that he's done since he has been acquitted that this shows that doesn't necessarily he's on a signal but he learned us less mistakenly sense terrifying everything. Dentist says is true but the reality reality of it is is these people all said the same thing you could if you were Republican senator decide. You didn't think it rose to the level of impeach ability or you didn't think it was a big deal but you couldn't say they all lie. Why and so what? He's saying that if you went out and told the truth I'm GONNA fire you. He's not making factual argument. He's making a political one. He is saying that impeachment speech was not a question of the country or question of the the members of the State Department saying the facts as they saw them he was he was saying it was a referendum on him that he projected. This asked this whole time what we're now seeing a combination of those rhetorical efforts. He is saying now that I am acquitted. I'm able to which again is within his power to fire those folks immediately. That is not just trying to send the signal is a clear message to anyone also swiss-based they have tried to say this was a deep state attack these or members of the State Department orchestrating against the president. The president has clearly taken that you acted on it even over the concerns an I and historical norms and they can turn the facts mentioned you know people listen realize these people especially the ones who had spent their careers working the government. They did so because they love their country. I've talked to several of them as a as evolve. You since all of their testimonies they genuinely are doing what they believe is is right every day and when they talk in their testimony about how they believe what they believe about this country and why they were there telling the truth. Here's what a few of them sat. And I think it's worth playing as a young man. I decided to spend my life serving. This nation gave my family that gave my family refuge from authoritarian oppression. It was with great pride and conviction that I swore an oath to uphold and defend the constitution. I come before you as an American citizen who who has devoted the majority of my life thirty three years to service to the country that all of us love it has been a privilege for me to serve our country and the American people for more than fifty years. This is the truth. And they're doing they're doing not only what they thought was right but what. They were taught as civil servants to do to speak up if they think something's wrong to go to Congress which has oversight authority over the executive branch and to tell the truth before Congress. So that's what you were trained to do as a government employee. I think it's useful to think about out. If this were a foreign country. We were watching this play out. How would we view this right minutes? Easy to sort of sit here and we think of this as sort of everything you know. Democrats Republicans what is happening in Europe. Somewhere we would be pretty shocked bites. This is the president sending a message. Everyone in the executive branch that loyalty is the utmost quality that you need to have if you work in the in the executive branch and that you can forget about Congress Congress as as an institution that you can go to to tell the truth is that won't protect you in the end and this is probably not. What's the end of this right? There are plenty of people who are involved in this that Still have jobs in the executive branch. What are they thinking tonight right? Should they going to work on Monday. So Oh look. Republicans especially leading Republicans say Chuck Grassley. Who spent his entire career as someone who cares about the rights of whistle blowers if they won't speak up if they allow behavior to go without any consequences then this will continue? You know what I was thinking as you were Kind of laying out. What has happened the last day with with these people being removed is that there is a difference between Gordon and Colonel Than men or carnival or Jennifer Williams or Maria Vision who are career civil servants as you said no maybe the president and his supporters call them the deep state but their career so there are people who have devoted their lives to the service of this country obviously in the case of women? He has shrapnel in his body because he paid a really hard price. Serving in war Gordon. Sawn Lynn was a sycophant Gordon political. Yeah exactly and he so in so in that case You could almost understand more. That he turned on the president he was supposed to be the president's guy. The other cases are different and more troubling I spoke to one of the people not want to today but someone else who testified after and the person told me just the struggle. They felt about the oath. They took to the person that they served and the oath they took to the country. And do you do you. Do you make a decision. Do you go to Congress. Do you speak and how hard and gut wrenching that was. Ultimately they decided ready to go and testify and speak the truth and now you look at the price that they might pay a personal price a political rice. We are seeing a president who has not cared about kind of norms indifference on this front saying not only even if you disagree with me even if you speak against me I understand that. There's kind of a larger thing at work here. Their systems of government. That must be protected here. And so I'm GonNa put that aside. That's not the view of this administration. That's not the view of this president. It is their belief in. We're seeing these actions actions today that the impeachment. The speaking in that procedure was an act against the president. And in that you he wants to he feels he can do whatever and retaliation allegation trump and Republicans today but in the long term we are defining. What is permissible for the executive branch? And there's no no reason that a Democrat who one day in office might not just think you know what I'm going to take all of the things that Donald Trump and Republicans decided we're now permissible and do the same thing. So these these things tend to be like an arms race rights once once. I breaks norm eventually. Even though Democrats may decry I now it becomes bipartisan. It also people WanNa tell the truth and I believe would tell the truth but when you're looking at losing your job and your family You know your healthcare everything that goes with that as as a regular rank and file person and as much as you go forward right next thing or do you. You say you know what I'm just going to keep my head down. Price will pass and the thing is is that those are all concrete things but it's so much harder than that. I mean. We know what has happened to did these. Two people who come forward in this day and age of social media of this tense partisanship with the kind of scrutiny. Scrutiny and dangerous sometimes they are in school i. It's really remarkable and very fortunate. All right thank you all very much. our breaking news coverage continues. And also tonight we are here in New Hampshire getting ready for the Democratic Debate Right now you've got Bernie Sanders watching one of his biggest attacks against Buddha judge. Do you think that when people receive money from palpable special interest that they're really going to stand up to those special interests sanders senior adviser. Jeff Weaver is out front. Plus a new poll shows Joe Biden in fourth place. Here in New Hampshire right now just a few days before that. Crucial vote Can you move those numbers. I can afford a fourth place. Finish all star weekend laws into the windy city. We are ready to go. Rising Stars ars stayed on all star Saturday night and the NBA. All Star game presented by Kia Sushi. All Star Twenty twenty two February fourteenth to sixty th on TNT. The wait is over coming to H.. L. Ed all new episodes of forensic files follow the evidence and crack the case forensic files to Premiere Sunday February twenty third at ten only on H. L. lead tonight sanders versus is Buddha judge. The senator previewing his attacks on the former mayor earlier today. Listen Do you think that when people receive money from powerful special interest that they really gonNA stand up to those special interests than do. It has to be done for the working class to this country. I don't think so. It doesn't work that way after a neck connect finish in Iowa. New poll tonight shows a very tight race between those two here in New Hampshire as well the NBC News Magazine Poll Shows Sanders. Leading at twenty five percent the judges at two percent the rest of the field significantly behind and if you look at the margin of error four point seven percentage points. You get the point. That's neck and Neck Jeff. Weaver is out front senior adviser to Bernie Sanders presidential campaign. All right. So is this a two to race. I mean you know when you look at that margin of error it is yet again neck and neck Bernie Sanders and people to judge well right but you saw people to many of the public polls in Iowa way down and then at the end you know had a bit of a surge so that could happen here and I was one of the other Hampshire with one of the other candidates as well. So we're taking all the candidates seriously so when when he Bernie Sanders says to think when people received money from powerful special interests. Obviously people like mayor P have received. There's a lot of money from big donors. So that is directly about budejovice. Look he's funded his campaign with a big dollar donors. He has a third party group. That's taking unlimited money. Money comes from executives from pharmaceutical companies from oil companies. A special on Wall Street and other places and say you think he will not be able to up stand up to them. Well compromises integrity. It's not about his integrity. I mean look. Let's just take an example. He was a very public supporter of Medicare for all before he started the his presidential run you started his took a lot of money from insurance company executives. Suddenly now he's against Medicare for all for all want it is what he swear. Well what you know what that means. If you don't have Medicare for all if you have Medicare or you're not private insurance at the end of the year is going to bill you on your taxes up to ten percent of your income. So is that what we're gonNA hear from Bernie Sanders tonight. I mean is he going to go after healthcare specifically. What's going to be the time? We just had him calling out special interest earlier today. Is that what we're going to see. I think you're GONNA see a contrast between Senator Sanders and the other candidates including go to judge on issues of how they fund their campaigns and what their policy prescriptions are for the country so Hillary Clinton has been highly critical of Sanders. Obviously that it's no surprise. Spend sped up and bit amped up recently a yesterday. She didn't interview with Ellen. Degeneres saying that Bernie Sanders making promises that he cannot deliver. Here she is so you've got to be responsible for what you say. And what you say you're going to do. We need to rebuild. Trust in our fellow Americans in our institutions. And if you promise the moon and you can't deliver the moon then that's going to be one more indicator of how you know l.. We just can't trust each other. You know I remember the attack back in two thousand eight about Barack Obama and UNICORNS and all this stuff that came out of the Clinton campaign about Barack Obama. Sounds a lot like what we heard back then. Frankly to me I mean you can go back and run that tape when when when when you hear are things like Medicare for all and obviously Bernie. Sanders isn't alone in that but he was a leader in that you don't think that's promising. The moon he has been honest. It's going to cost a heck of a lot of money if the lesson awesome. We pay now for health insurance in this country. Majority of Democrats supported large numbers of independence and some polls a majority of independent support at some Republicans. Pine this guy. It's why it's pie in the sky because in today's Today's Washington the drug companies. The insurance companies run the show and when Bernie Sanders was president. They won't run the show. Okay so I hear that. They've got a lot of power but what I what I what I still don't know the answer to is. How do you know that it's going to cost a whole lot more out of pocket now but less overall? That's the argument. You're making how do you. How do you really know that because the amount of money we spent on administrative waste on Bloated Insurance Company salaries on the prophets of the private insurance companies? They're going to be gone. They won't have their profits that will have to be paid out of the People's pockets the -rageous prices we pay for prescription drugs. In some cases ten times more than Canadians paid for the same drugs from the factory. That will be eliminated. All those savings will come into the system and allow us to run a healthcare system that covers everybody for less overall. When you look at the field right now you look at all the people who are GonNa onstage tonight? Mike Bloomberg isn't going to be on the stage tonight. Who Do you see as your biggest I spend the most time? Talking about Bernie Sanders is going to do on stage. That's what he always does. But just talk about the plight of the American people and how we're going to fix it now. There's no secret and you've seen it all in the media the Stop Bernie Movement you know this political establishment. The billionaire class like a pete. He booed ages that funding him if a lot of Franken Vice President Biden's campaign into his Super Pac and they always have the billionaire backstop. Which is Mike Bloomberg on March Third Bernie Sanders mckean's it means makes it through the first four and so we're going to defeat these people and now we're going to defeat Mike Bloomberg Okay and then Mike Bloomberg had said that if he's not the nominee he would help whoever is oh okay is this? Is this the moment where you say you won't take. That money is tainted billionaire money Bernie Sanders has said he will run a grassroots funded general election campaign and we you think we can raise a billion dollars in smaller money in the general elections. Issue that money exactly yes all right thank you very much. We're going to. You always good to see you all right. Hopefully we'll see afterwards. See how it goes and next the Biden campaign tonight. Downplaying expectations for New Hampshire. This evening. Why while the deputy campaign manager is out front next and the twenty twenty democratic debate is about to start? What do the candidates need to say because this matters here in a few days? You've got the crucial New Hampshire Primary Time David axelrod host of the X.. Files brought to you by CNN. And the University of Chicago's Institute of Politics each week on the show. 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What have you done to prepare for tonight? We'll look Joe Biden is a fighter. I mean as you said. He acknowledged he took his lumps in Iowa. But he's a fighter he's resilient his entire entire life he's always been about that comeback story and so tonight what you're going to see from him he's GonNa raise some really tough questions that voters have before them as they decide who they they want to send to take on Donald Trump. You have candidates in this race. Who are self described socialist who are putting forward thirty? Trillion dollar healthcare plans that take away freedom of choice choice from people to decide what kind of health best for them. You have candidates. Who are the mayor of a small town who maybe doesn't have the Voldemort voldemort effect right the people who go on name but I mean that's that's what he's going to be looking at budejovice and Sandra? I think there are some very important choices in this contest and I think tonight right on the debate stage. You're going to see that but you're also going to see him make a case for his candidacy. You're GONNA see a fiery case for the fact that he's the person can unite this party who can unite this country and who can beat Donald Donald. Trump's you're going to see him do that tonight so the campaign change that I reference needed done making final campaign. Decisions is according to The New York Times. What what is the purpose of this happening now? Now when people hear that they say wait is something wrong. We'll look I. I understand the tendency of everybody to sort of overanalyze. A decision. Like this right now but I would caution everybody to not read too much into it. Anita Dunn is incredibly valuable member of our team. And she's been with us since the day. We launched the campaign. She's been an integral part of our senior leadership. So this is not an Overhaul of the campaign structure. This is adding capacity. You know. Growing campaigns are successful campaigns. And so this is an opportunity to bring somebody of her incredible talent inexperience further into our decision. Making how much frustration do you feel about the the calendar. I mean the fact that you have another state you view certainly we saw from. I'm not saving today as not diverse and representative of the country where currently Joe Biden is coming in fourth and polls we'll see what happens. You don't want to fourths in a row. We'll look we go. We view the first four states as a package. I mean we have really. You think we've been very clear about our campaign strategy here. We believe that obviously diverse diverse voices should have their say in who the Democratic nominee is. And frankly since nineteen ninety-two no candidate has been the Democratic nominee for president without the support of African American and voters. So we've you the first four as a package deal in Iowa New Hampshire important part of the process. They're not the end of the process. And so we're looking forward to competing in here. Obviously we believe we're going to be competitive. We're going to be here working hard through the primary on Tuesday but we certainly view this as the start of the process and not the end of it so so Nevada and South Carolina. Which of those do you feel better about right now? Well I'm not going to handicap them. I think we believe that. Joe Biden's message. Message is resonating with voters across the country. I think certainly you've seen incredible strength From Him in South Carolina obviously he has a unique connection with African American voters. That I'm not sure that any other candidate in this race really has and so I think we believe that we're going to have good nights in Nevada and South Carolina but obviously South Carolina has a very special place. Jason Joe Biden's heart so by has been arguing. It's arrest to nominate someone who you know as you said the mayor of a small town non-tested mayor. I'm Buddha judge responded. He said it's actually Biden. Who is unelectable and the quote from Buddha Judge to TMZ yesterday? I'm sorry you saw cape for them if your focus is on electability the best way I think to demonstrate. You're a candidate who can win is to go win. Well so I think that there's a really important component here. which is is that Vice? President Biden is a person who has been on. The national stage stood shoulder to shoulder with President Obama getting meaningful change done in this country. He helped pass the affordable care correct. He helped pass the violence against women. Act I mean if voters are looking at who is the candidate who has a record of progressive change who has been in tough moments. Has I've been in the situation room when there's a crisis happening who is the steady hand Who can restore a sense of integrity to the office? I think there's no question that's Joe Biden and I think that there are other candidates like Mayor Buddha judge who certainly have impressive records but that are not That don't stack up to the record that Joe Biden is bringing in part of the reason and he's running his his experience. He believes that this is a moment where we need somebody with the kind of experience that he has and that's not experienced. That judge has all right. Thank you very much from all of what I just heard from you and Jeff Weaver. This'll be an exciting evening to watch. Thank you very much. Eight and next Bernie Sanders fierce supporters but has their top talk to take down Sanders. Critics crossed a line. Drew Griffin investigates. Plus we are just moments away from the next twenty two thousand eight democratic debate. WHO has the most at stake tonight with a no-holds-barred election right around the corner? 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Supporters may attack you personally multiple targets described to CNN an N.. What they call a sanders swarm and online army of supporters on facebook twitter? Read it some. Even digging into their personal lives lives trying to out their identity bully and frighten them into silence. MIT lecturer Michael Try says over and over again the bullying works except the type of harassment. That occurs is deeply hurtful. It's scary it's frightening Personally I've had my job threatened online. Many people have experienced far far worse and unless someone is willing to do more than yes it. It can only escalate because it's effective and outspoken Elizabeth Elizabeth Warren supporter whose daughter with Down Syndrome is just recovering from cancer. Was told your stupid like you retard kid to bed. The cancer didn't kill her sanders. Opponents are told to eat this poop and shut the F.. Up Activists Dying of a LS tweeted support for Elizabeth Warren. and was I was told. Go F yourself when the Working Families Party also endorsed Warren. It was swarmed bloodless scumbag hacks corrupt shameless one user told the group's leader who is black. Slave masters had coerced his endorsement. The abuse so bad sanders had to respond. Bond tweeting that that a LS activists was actually a friend and in another tweet the candidates signal to his followers that this campaign condemns uh-huh racist bullying and harassment of any kind. It's not clear if the Sanders followers responsible are listening in recent weeks. Trolling Senator Elizabeth. Warren has a snake an post after post labeling mayor Pete Buddha judge a rat to victims of this tells cnn they were so afraid of the online attacks they faced. They don't even want us to describe the circumstances for fear it would start up again. They both just questioned the politics Bernie Sanders in a public setting and their personal lives were exposed and attacked. Ben Decker who studies online harassment and threats says it's unclear how all this warm start but sanders supporters have been organizing in facebook twitter and Reddit communities since two thousand sixteen and have only grown stronger and while social media harassment happens across the political spectrum. Decker says the sheer number of Sanders online supporters. There's sets them apart from other followers. I think any time where you have far greater numbers you have greater potential for harm and in the online community there are far greater sanders. Supporters Decker use facebook's data to analyze all the pages created by the supporters of Democratic presidential candidates candidates and found the pro sanders pages have two and a half million followers with nearly fifty eight thousand posts in a three month period. Far More than then. All the other Democratic candidates combined if only a fraction of those engage in nasty comments they're still capable of bullying critics off offs social media and that kind of bullying. That happens at scale is it's it's crazy. Sanders has insisted in several interviews. Those who hate online online are not welcome in his campaign and in a statement to CNN. His deputy communications director says the senator has said loudly and clearly there is no no room in the political revolution for abuse and harassment online. Not Enough say those who study online abuse if you're not condemning it consistently instantly if you're proxies within your campaign are not working against it and trying to do something different than than. That's a real issue and issue of Abuse Abuse Online bullying and even threats. That experts say is only growing Aaron. It's not just some sanders. Followers criticized S. for online vitriol sanders. Speechwriter David Sirotta. Once lashed out at critics is mentally incapacitated and wrote that Joe Biden has a big corruption in problem Bernie Sanders again had to apologize on his campaigns behalf. As I wrote he did not respond to requests for comment and has deleted almost all of his past tweets. All right thank you very much true next. Bruce moments away what to watch for tonight's crucial Democratic Democrat debate once upon a time. This was the news. The Earth is flat devil Israel and that is everything that we know exactly exactly Daniel Radcliffe in St Semi Dark Ages. A Miracle Workers Anthology Suzy's at ten thirty nine thirty central on. Tbs All right. Welcome back to a special edition about front here in New Hampshire. The Democratic presidential candidates are just moments away. Okay from there debate here in Manchester. It's a crucial night. The Democrats are looking ahead. They just have a few days before the primary on Tuesday and Dana Bash is back with me here. This is debate spin room and people can. And here's the buzz behind us and obviously this debate is about to start okay first of all. We should just emphasize this as a primary. I don't even know why I'm knocking on what we will get resolved. Some say it's a primary of the winner is not just the party whose putting on. It's actually the state government right and there's only inviting into voting booth. Yes okay so this is obviously very important The first primary so who has the most at stake tonight when you look at the whole Iowa debacle and the kind of dead heat that you have between sanders and Buddha judge by coming in fourth. It's going to be a different night tonight. Obviously I think everybody except Bernie Sanders. I have everything at stake. You know Joe Biden for example. I know you had one of his advisors on. I'm told that he's been off the campaign trail Aaron for like three days. We did the CNN town hall the other night but but he's been hunker down preparing preparing for this moment tonight. He's been preparing to show what they call contrast with the people who are the most the biggest threats to him be Buddha Judge Bernie Sanders unders talking about electability talking about experience so expect him to go hard because he has to really over perform tonight and that's not me talking people who really want him to do well. It's amazing talking to her. It was very clear it was sort of. You know someone who's a first term mayor or someone who's making promises promises of thirty trillion dollar healthcare plans. I mean you know sort of made a joke about it. You know th the he's who shall not be named but I mean there it's going to be aggressive and then the sanders campaign. They made it clear. Buddha judge people judge. I'm sure it's ready yet. I was asked exactly. I was at an event this morning with Bernie Sanders. And you know he was kind of doing his Bernie Sanders thing and then he stopped and he looked at the podium and there was a piece of paper prepared for him I am maybe. And that's when he did started his line about first of all about Mike Bloomberg which was interesting about buying buying the race but then about the budget about all of the billionaires who are contributing into his campaign signaling. What we're likely to see tonight but also signaling and reminding us where we are in the race that you have Bernie Sanders taking a moment? Don't prepared moment to go after people who judge because of what happened in Iowa I mean it is. It is an incredible thing. And it's going to be an interesting two hours and for all of you so we're not going anywhere. Dan and I will be back at eleven PM Eastern. We'll be interviewing the candidates. After their debate. Anderson is up next. He has an exclusive interview with seven house impeachment. Managers see in a couple of hours a C.. 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