Keeping the Right Company with Tamiko Kelly- CR64


The longer we stay and toxic environments. It really makes us start to believe that we aren't capable in that. We can't do things that we are not successful. You're doing yourself more harm. Standing in a situation that is no longer serving the welcome to career launch the podcast dedicated to helping you reinvent career. My Name is Joseph. Liu and I'm here to help you gain clarity confidence and courage to overcome the challenges of making changes to your career so you can do more meaningful work and truly enjoy a professional life in each episode is feature people who've decided to step off the beaten path to reinvent their careers and do work that matters we talked through the unique personal stories the challenges they overcame and the lessons they learned along the way to help you understand what it takes to launch her own career today. My guest is going to describe leaving her retail career behind to become become a baby sleep. Consultant will discuss moving forward without a fully formed plan and the importance of getting yourself out of toxic environments afterwards during today's mental health. You'll all talk about how much the places I've worked affected. Ym Hello from Barcelona. I'm back here for the next twenty any four hours hosting another personal branding workshop but wanted to make sure I got this episode out the door and today I'm speaking with Meco Kelly. Who's the founder of sleep well wake happy and the creator of the field like yourself again? Baby Sleep Solution as a certified sleep consultant and holistic health practitioner to MECO Niko helps tired. MOMS feel like themselves again by teaching them how to get there baby sleeping through the night prior to doing this work to go spend her career working in the corporate world doing retail L. Merchandising at some well known brands including Banana Republic and Nordstrom now I found my conversation with D'Amico really refreshing because she's so honest and real about her career journey and also because she touches on some really important points about how much our work environment managers and colleagues can affect our psyche and belief in ourselves. She also also reminded me how critical it is to get yourself out of situations that drag you down instead of lift you up you can get all the show notes from today's episode at Career Relaunch Dot dot net slash sixty four to go spoke with me from Austin Texas good afternoon to Meco and welcome to career relaunch. We're we're going to talk through a few different topics today. Including what made you WanNa leave your retail career behind and how you decided to start your own business focused on as you put it helping tired parents but can you start by telling me more about what you're focused on right now in your career and your life just to get started yes so right now. I am make it a big shift in my business where I'M GONNA be out of the day to day activities focusing on a new offer for our company when you were just super exciting and then personally I am about to start the moving process which we all know can be a little crazy but they're not my hands around me because I'm starting a month early with the prep-work say it will be easier for me and I'm excited about place now. I know you said that you are removing on a little bit in the nature of your work and at the same time I would be curious to just hear a little bit more about what you had been doing even before making this transition for those people who aren't familiar with sleep consultant. Does what exactly have you been doing for parents out there. I helped L. Tired. Moms feel like themselves again but teaching them how to get their babies sleep into the night. My clients call me the baby whisper and basically since two thousand eight. I spent over over-fifties. Gaza ours is public closer now to get on the eighty or ninety thousand now but sitting around time teaching babies how how to sleep in helping their parents be super excited and get a good night's sleep as well. I have not made a baby who I couldn't teach sleep through the night. Also also were toddlers and older kids as well so allergy. Katie can't sleep on definitely the girl who can help you and it all started back in in two thousand and eight so it's been a long while crazy right now. I know that you have not always been asleep. Consultant and I do want to come back in here a little bit more more about exactly what you have been doing asleep consultant but we go back in time and go all the way back to your days working in retail and then we can move forward from there and perhaps we could start with your time at the gap and could you just explain what you're doing when you kicked picked off year retail career at the gap so I used to live in the Bay Area San Francisco for our folks are not in the US and I I graduated for IBM which is Institute of design recognize it in San Francisco and my first job out of that and Sacra at my bachelor's degrees as my second degree was working at gap is a strictly contract position and all I was supposed to do was is to help the pipeline which is no longer existence. We help pipeline this organized their inventories so back in those days actual hard goods sample sick from on the vendors that we use to service in we had a sample room and so my job was has to go into that. Samper Room actually create inventory organization because what would happen is that our team would take pictures of all of the pictures for the actual show website so that people could see look why and videos of back wearing shoes the no. She has had to be somewhere so that was my first stop. Stop Gap. How did you like that. And how did you see your career at that point in time progressing. I loved working at Harper Line because it was literally a startup. It was brand new. The team was excited. I'm a superman time because that never gone into the business before so a super exciting for the whole team to kind of be in the inaugural division of the company basically proven ourselves that we could be profitable etcetera we could actually we do the work and actually make money. Selling shoes had no idea where one of my career to go. I've been in retail for so long that I was super excited to be an actual actual corporate. Anybody who is in retail retail you understand the grind causal store level and I was excited not to be this anymore so I ended. I did not here with job store. It's so hard relying was a super exciting time for me for sure and then you you made a transition. Is that right to work in a high end clothing retail. What happened during that chapter of your career. What made you want to make that shift. Actually after pipeline I was recruited by another division of Gap Banana Republic to come and work on their team specifically work on the men's business in visual merchandising they have had so much experience in visual merchandising. I was actual stylus so I worked with magazines in photographers in Russia's it says dressing laws and all that and so they were super excited to have that experience on that team basically a Banana Republic our photo studio and so my job there was us to help the stylist again keep all the merchandise organized that was my first road within as I was on the team and again promoted to actually work on the digital man's Arjun because where I was working with at the VP of activation and we were actually setting up the visuals that the entire a company with us and we had a studio and I was basically set up the visual merchandising for that part of the business and basically at that time he had about two hundred stores person so also under stores use the work that we produced to set up the visual merchandising so if you guys shop at Banana Republic all of the mannequins the table's awesome awesome it was done by team like when I was on and that was Super Fun super exciting definitely left my time. I'm working in corporate and then after gap was an entree in to Nordstrom and actually got to open up a fabulous fantastic so actually our the norstrom mess backtrack. Here are the Nor'easter before the Gab actually because I opened a store in the Houston Galleria to my folks who work at the gallery is door and I opened the store back in two thousand and three. I believe it sounds like you had such a good run in the retail space and you've got a chance to work on some fantastic brands like the gap and Banana Republic and Nordstrom and I was just curious how you went from that to focusing on the sleep I from a long line of Entrepreneurs Joseph so for me. It was a super easy transition. I knew I always wanted to own my own business. I didn't have any idea what I wanted it to be. I used to have a jury business back in the day the balcony. I'M GONNA open up a retail business like I thought it was true to do something. In the retail world tried my hand at many things nothing really felt right to me and it wasn't until I was in San Francisco and and started to date nights that the light really got switched on my head. I was like I do families. I really do like worked with babies. I've been in the any literally Mahal entire life so maybe this is the route that I need to take and it was with literally there that that's when it started Cisco now when you you say date night. I know you and I talked about this before. We did this recording. What do you mean by date night. I think you said you were a date night. Nanny when we talked before yeah so I'm basically parents nights would hire me. I still con- Valley so if anybody who doesn't doesn't conflicts full of lots of executives who work super duper long hours and basically you're always always were hardly come in and give them in their partner date nights a bit go out enjoy dinner and hang out on the town without the kiddos basically Asia Kate their spouse against so important date night. Nanny and you're helping couples rekindle their their relationships post children and then what happened. What made you then decide that you wanted to turn this into something more than being a date night. Nanny and you wanted to become asleep consultant. You know one of my clients actually said. Hey I need thought of taking what you're teaching mead aid and putting it online is folks have to understand. Is that back in the day when I was doing this. There was no online course that was not a thing back in two thousand the three four or five illy not even industry back then so to have somebody say to me. Hey what do you think about that. I was like what are you talking about. I even even know what she was referring to. She basically was just like hey. I go to school. All my classes are online. It's great for me. 'cause I'm able to do it. Whenever I'm available. They have to go to an actual campus. I think this would be great for you as well as because she mentioned that to me is the current and I was like Oh maybe I can turn this into an actual business and not just random date nights here and there and all of that and so it was through that one conversation Asian that basically the train left the station with conversation so when you went into doing sleep consulting it was in the form of online courses purses than is that right now. It was actually in the form of in-home consultation okay so you went into people's homes one at a time. Can you explain what what that was like to go from working in the corporate setting where you're working with all these like high end brands to then going into somebody's home whether struggling to to get their infant or baby or toddler to go to bed by eight o'clock or nine o'clock yes so. I worked on my think something alongside alongside of my job so it was basically a side hustle for me for many years I would work incorporated and then after work and on the weekends is when I did because hopefully that was really elite driving up and down the bay area. I mean literally. I did the entire so from Novado all the way to Dublin pleasanton. I Live Matteo anybody who lives in the bay area area. You will ask driving families so I did a lot of work to be area and it was through all of the hours I put in working with families in that one on one capacity that I was able to develop our online course many years go to us. If until twenty thirteen is when I finally develop my course okay so five years into doing this work okay and what was the toughest part of doing this kind of work whether it's the self employment aspect of it or the sleep coaching coaching part of it well in the beginning. I basically worked for anybody who had who didn't sleep. I had no. I had no kind of filters who I would work for an all that stuff in I think in the beginning I was just happy to help people as I continue to do the work. I realized okay so I the only WanNa work with people who have X. Y. Z. As I think the hardest thing for me in the beginning was turning away business because I had this fear that if I didn't help everybody that I I would literally not have any clients but it was through that filtering process that really was able to hone my skills and cartwright brought a better Mitch from myself is under the game which is hard to say no in the beginning which anybody new business can totally amen me from that one definitely if somebody is listening to this to me go and they've got some sort of skill or strength that they want to utilize in the form of creating creating their own business and they're hearing you and and they're hearing you say wow I was turning away clients. Can you explain how were you even finding your first first clients so when I first started we didn't have facebook. We had the yahoo form so Yahoo. Groups was still them back right. I'm in Silicon Valley so though exciting I mean just to kind of let people know when I was in the bay area I wanted to I think fifty people to even use twitter. This was like literally my back in the day. Yeah that's right. When twitter two thousand eight was right when twitter her was released to the public like the first fifty two people who even got access 'cause I somebody had to invite you even like open to say hey go come and get on twitter so I mean this was literally when I was starting my business and so we had a yahoo group in basically I helped one mom issue on that Yahoo Group root for San Mateo Game in literally screaming my presents from the tops in front that one post literally my phone rang and then even getting all aw all day every day? I'll be on conference. Calls in meetings will be blowing. Oh get over here. It's very interesting yes. I didn't have any kind of marketing strategy was it was literally our started. The other thing I was hoping to hear about is is what the toughest part. I know you mentioned that. Turn away. Clients was tough. was there anything else that was tough about running your your own business and this sort of service based business you know for me. It was like finding time for it all because I was still working `corporate and it was on the side. It was really elite trying to balance everything there are some days where I was working twelve hours at work and then I would have to his house at night and then get up the next morning to work against I I mean it was just trying to balance it all without chilling myself so much work which I made people buy a good thing. It is when you have a system for that work. I literally had no system of virus pants so just in general that was hard and I think also it was hard for me in as far as rates that was always a hot button topic for me because I didn't know what the charge I just is picked number off the skies at this price and I didn't have any kind of formula system for that and so whenever I decided to increase arrate hours very like Oh my God increase rates and I was very nervous people would pay and they were just like we don't care just can you can and you do what you can do. They will pay you whatever you want us to pay you and so once people told me that it released me from all the pricing chain was given to gap pricing is a really tricky thing because there's so much wrapped up in that not just the financials of it but also. I guess like perceptions Sion's of self worth and the value offer and how much your time is worth so yeah. That's that's really tricky. And how did you know that it was time to turn this abyss from being a side hustle to your full time job so two things when the income started to become very close marketing corporate on a part time basis I I was. I'd okay girl like you have got to really look at this because you're basically almost salary working part time like just on the weekends and at night so could you do if you didn't have corporate at all in the number two. I just got sick of reading corporate like I had. I've had some horrible oh bosses in my career Joseph who really in always say like well we have a moral boss that is God or the universe or whatever you call it giving us the lesson that we need to have a plan in our life and the lesson I had to get from my office when I was incorporated. was you qualify if these idiot monkeys can do their job and get paid all this money to be basically a holes. You're a nice person. People love us so there's no reason why oh you can't run your own thing and be highly successful in it so I think once I kinda got my head around that that I was capable that I am confident and I'm able to be successful in business. That gave me the confidence to be like okay. It's time to lead it. Is I will tell on you. I did not have a game plan. I know a lot of people are like Oh. I'm GONNA have expired our stage and I got a have X. Amount of crimes I didn't do any elderly just said I'm done working. Today is my last day at about two weeks today. I had no money saved up had no backup. Plans like Allahu care. There are just dumb. We're getting I literally left and I got my first twenty. K. Client hours of leaving living in that's what I knew that this was not supposed to be doing. That is a great transition to me. Go into a couple of the last things I was hoping that we could talk about which is what you've learned along the way from making your transition from the corporate world to running your own business and what you just said there about making a leap without having a concrete plan in places. I think quite interesting for me because I'm somebody who struggles to move forward without a plan. What did you learn from doing back from making the leap without having a plan that you could now say at this point in time that maybe you didn't realize at the time looking looking back. I think that I learned that I can do anything that apple ninety like anything that I say I want to do. It's one hundred percent possible. I don't have to you battle with the Dow anymore because I've proven to myself time and time and time again so for me. It's the best thing I ever did. I'm looking back stating proper way too long dealt with way too much yes. I should have left many years years before I left. It's also a reminder of myself to stop holding on so patently tightly to things that are no longer serve me for the fear what may happen in the future and just do what I need to do and just trust at it's going to always work out because it literally always do you have any advice for someone out there who may be listening to this and is feeling some of that same doubt that you were feeling the time and holding onto a job that maybe they feel is exactly right for them any any advice for them about making a change my rest to leave like I think that the longer we stay and toxic environment. It does something to our psyche. It really makes us start to believe that we aren't capable that. We can't do things that we are not successful. I personally have office who sent the most horrible things to be the most horrific things to me and if you're in an environment where people are constantly negative. They're constantly bringing you down. It affects you in ways that you don't even know thank you to your Alabama even realize how ridiculous is being treated until allows no longer in that environment in look back and I was like what in the world are you. Would you life so I think you're doing yourself more harm standing in a situation that is no longer serving you now. Some people may have families. They can't just do like I did this piece out but that a game plan and I can in totally respect that what you have to ask yourself though is can I come up with a date that I say this is the date that I've done. Regardless regardless of what's happened in the business regardless of what my boss expected me. I'm done on this day and put it in my notice on this date and and then I'm GonNa have quit day party like I'm GonNa. Put My notice a mistake and then on the last day. I'm going to have a quick Papeari because whatever you're meant to do your during that waiting for you and the longer that you sit in a position as serving you the less people that you're able to help that is really great advice and and it is so hard. I think to walk away from something. That feels so stable so that's just a really good reminder that yeah you're just burning time and it sometimes you do you have to move on and I think you know know Jarvis stable. I mean literally time Bali during the real estate boom and people who were making millions of dollars from having that always happens zero dollars literally overnight and I just think that you have to realize that civility illusion having a stable job as an illusion and the longer that you keep telling yourselves these lies the longer. You're preventing yourself from doing but you really put on this earth to do. I'm as strong advocate for entrepreneurship because I know that the freedom is giving me. I'm supposed to be that I have in my life that I've never had or anybody who works at retail like you know how crazy schedule is like you literally have no life and so. I am all for us from new ship and all about finding free them on your terms for sure well. Let's wrap up with what you're focused on right now. What is next for you in your business. So what next to me and my business is. I'm working on on on on the new offer that I mentioned in the beginning. You know I'll be able to have other people who will be able to help families that I can't get help or just you know I'm retiring from nights nights for over a decade. Now I just think it's time I pass the baton somebody else and so finding people who can't help my clients who desperately need help with nights without me having to be the person to to do that. I'm I'm and then you know helping new care professionals because in my industry it's a predominantly female oriented industry and so many of the living I'm a meat in conferences and other groups they are just struggling to make ends meet and so our coaching several of them and and so in our our idea of coaching network professionals on how to build sustainable businesses that don't during the life how you freedom and the life that you so desperately want so. I'm working on that too okay and now I know you've also got some workshops that you run and can you tell me a little bit about your workshops. We'll wrap up it basically walks parents through by system right tips for helping tonight we in your baby so they have to be up all night every night feeding your baby every hour and so you know to get your seat now workshop chop sleepworld dot com slash workshop and the MOMS who have join me on that workshop has completely have their lives changed by what they learn so so if your mom lives baby won't go to sleep without a bottle or breastfeeding on that long that you definitely don't want to miss this workshop fantastic. Thank you so much for sharing that a resource to me. Go and just really appreciate you taking the time to share your story of leaving the corporate world to start your own business and how you navigated the challenges along the way and again. I think you're doing really great work out. There and I'm sure there are plenty of parents out there who really appreciate what you're doing for them. So thanks so much for sharing your career our story on the show and best of luck to you with your new endeavor. Thank you so much so I hope you enjoyed hearing some useful perspectives from D'Amico about the importance of starting somewhere somewhere even if you don't have your plans fully mapped out and letting go of the things that no longer serve you now. It's time to wrap up with today's mental fuel where I'm going to explain how much your work environment. It can affect who you are. Thanks to fresh books for supporting this episode of career relaunch fresh books is a user-friendly simple invoicing an accounting tool for self employed it professionals and small business owners. Try It free for one month by going to career relaunched dot net slash fresh books. This is the part of the show called mental fuel or I finished the show with a brief personal story related to one of the topics we cover today and rep with a simple challenge to help you move forward with your own career goals for today's mental fuel. There were a a couple of topics I had thought about covering the I was about self confidence which to Meco mentioned was something she had to build up before she made the leap into self-employment but that's a topic we we covered quite a bit in episode forty nine with Heather Monaghan the author of the Confidence Creator so if you want to hear more about the topic of confidence feel free to check out episode forty nine instead. I WanNa pick up on something to me. Go said about how being in a toxic environment can affect your psychology and self belief and how important it is to get yourself out of situations that no longer serve you and this got me thinking about how much the people we surround ourselves with an on how much the work environments where we spend most of our waking hours can really affect who we are how we behave and what we believe so. I thought I'd just share a personal snow story about how one work environment literally altered my personality just Ella straight how much your workplace can affect who you are in my case. It won't be a story three of a toxic workplace per se that affected my confidence although I did have a couple of those going back to my college internship days but instead. I thought I'd talk about another situation. I wouldn't say positive or negative impact on me but just shifted how I thought about the world around me so I don't know if you've ever taken the Myers Briggs type indicator test also known as the embiid but if you're familiar with it it's a well known personality questionnaire that gives you a sense of how you process the world around you. It's a popular test that in a nutshell gives you a sense of how you operate across four domains in your our life specifically how you draw your energy process information make decisions and structure your life. I'm simplifying a bit here but but that's the gist of it so I've taken this test several times in my life a couple times as a child once in college and a few times when I was working in the corporate world because it's a popular team building exercise to understand how people operate on your team and every single time I took it throughout different life stages an an ages. I always typed as a strong. I N T J which means I'm the type of person who's more energized by time alone alone rather than with others focused on conceptual ideas rather than details logical rather than emotional and planned rather than spontaneous is actually the third heard rarest personality type out their accounting for about two percent of the general population the one exception to me typing as an I. N. T. J. was when I took the test. After spending a couple of years working at clorox which was the first large corporate company I worked for back in my brand manager days after doing my Mba yea and when I took the test their how I processed information changed for the first time in my life from an en to an s flipping from being focused on high level ideas and intuition to details and fact base analysis which made complete sense because the NBA is certainly focused on data analysis assists and Clorox was also a company that relief valued analytics and data driven decision making and planning a few years later when I worked AH GU desserts a startup in London and took the test again. I actually shifted back toward being an N. again which also made sense because Google was a startup back then and a lot of marketing decisions were made based on Gut feel and in tuition so I'm just sharing this as an example apple of how much I've personally been affected by those environments where I used to spend the majority of my waking hours and what I found interesting and almost scary about it was that I've always sort of prided myself as someone who doesn't allow others to affect who I am. Peer pressure was never something that I thought I felt and I didn't think I was someone who's personality was so malleable or driven by the environment around me and yet these places. This is really did change me and this specific case. I wouldn't say it had a negative or positive impact on me but it did alter who I was. All the way back in episode six featuring marketer turned interior designer Nas Massawa. I shared this quote by Jim Rohn. Who said you are the average of the five people you spend the most time with. I really believe that and so with all this in mind it's worth thinking about the company you're keeping during your work days. The people you're spending the most time with at work especially your managers and the behaviors they're encouraging or discouraging your organization and the actions and attitudes values and rewards while it may not seem like one person's opinion of view or one way of working or one aspect of your company's culture would dramatically alter who you are the cumulation of those things especially especially over time can have a significant impact on how you view the world how you think you should act and be in order to be considered successful and ultimately. Camilli what you think of yourself both the positive and the negative. How are your colleagues managers and work environment affecting you. Are they lifting you up or are they constantly holding you back. It's so important to take stock of what impact your environment is having on you and what is and what is not acceptable to you as you think about your own professional health. This brings me to a quote that I couldn't find the author for but really Lee rings true with this topic. Make sure everybody in your boat is rowing not drilling holes when you're not looking know your circle so my challenge to you is to think about the company you keep thinking about what specific impact the people you spend the most time with are are having on your own personal and professional wellbeing. Write it down if they're having a positive impact great but if they're dragging you down all the time you just have to ask yourself how long you're willing to tolerate being around those people and if you feel the time has come to get yourself out of that situation what it's small steps you could take this week to lay the groundwork for moving somewhere else. If you WANNA learn more about that Myers Briggs test all include cluedo linked to some more information about that questionnaire on today's episode at career relaunch dot net slash sixty four where you can also find a summary of all the key concepts from today's conversation Asian with tobacco along with links to those past episodes. I mentioned during today's mental fuel segment again. That's career relaunch dot net slash six four in our next episode. Soda Career Relaunch. We're heading over to Detroit Michigan where I'll be speaking with an automotive industry professional who bounced back from being laid off from her job not once but twice we're going to talk about how she bounce back from those moments and what she learned about what truly matter to her thanks so much for listening to career relaunch an especial thanks again to to Meco Geico Kelly for sharing her honest with us today from Austin Texas. This episode was mixed by Richard Pennington Electrocardiogram wrote and performed our original theme song. I'm I've just flew at all. CNN time

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