Day 1,344: Trump's own FBI director contradicts his election attacks
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We'll bring you any breaking developments either in Louisville or across the country where there are other protest taking place today is day thirteen, hundred and forty four of the trump administration with forty days to go until the presidential election five days now until. The first presidential debate and just moments ago the nation's surpassed seven million confirmed corona virus cases. The president is in the midst of an election firestorm of his own making ignited by his public dismissal of one of the cornerstones of American democracy. The peaceful transition of power. He's refused to promise that he'll carry it out if he loses raising fears of a constitutional crisis, tonight trump held his third rally of the week in Jacksonville Florida. But avoided the issue sticking to generally encouraging his supporters to get to the polls. Friends family get your neighbors. Get your coworkers and get out and vote. We have to win this election most important electric. Early voting is already begun. Don't wait. It's safe. Go out and vote. He'll sit and brecca places frequented baseless assertions that mail ballots are rife with fraud and will cost him the election. But after the rally, he tweeted quote cheating on unsolicited ballots by political hacks or anyone else is against the law we are closely watching. The controversy over trump's comments on the transfer power erupted yesterday when he answered this question during a press briefing. Drawl in this election, will you commit today for a peaceful transfer? Of Power after the election. Has Been Rioting. There's been rioting in many cities across this country read and your so called Red and blue states will you commit to making sure that there is a peaceful transfer? Of Power after the election. have to see what happens. You know that I've been complaining very strongly about the ballots and the ballots are disaster and. People rioted do you connect to making sure that? They want to get rid of the ballots in you'll have a very. I have a very peaceful there won't be transferred frankly there'll be a continuation. There will be a continuation today before Donald Trump left the White House for Florida. He dug in on his position and cast doubt on the integrity of the November election. We WanNa make sure the election is honest and I'm not sure that again be I don't I. Don't know that it can be with this whole Situation unsolicited ballots, they're unsolicited millions being sent to everybody. The White House tried to back up the boss today the chief of staff and the press secretary speaking simultaneously although not quite the same tune. Governing, very and very simple question if the president loses this election, will this White House will this president assure us that there will be a peaceful transfer of power it's a very simple and then brandon. The president will exact accept the results of a free and fair election. Clearly are the results legitimate. Only the president wins the president will accept the results of a free and fair election. He will accept the will of the American people. Loses and it's free and fair. He will accept answered your question if every ballot is counted and if it's a fair election, we have a history of a peaceful transition of power. Here's the other thing that we do know and bluntly is that we're continuing to see a perversion of the electoral process with mainland ballots that are unsolicited. So that was of you from Pennsylvania Avenue. But on Capitol, Hill Republicans made an effort to distance themselves from trump's comments without criticizing him, and while also reassuring voters Senate Majority Leader Mitch, McConnell and unwavering trump ally who's working hard to fill the Supreme Court vacancy today posted this message quote the winner of the November third election will be inaugurated on January twentieth. There will be an orderly transition just as there has been every four years since seventeen, ninety, two today while under oath at a Senate hearing trump's FBI director contradicted trump on the issue of fraud and voting by mail. Is, voting by mail secure, we have not seen historically any kind of coordinated national voter fraud effort in a major election whether it's by mail or otherwise. Now in Michigan, one of the states where early voting is underway the idea of trump refusing to commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses to Joe Biden did not go over well. How could he? Not? If you're voted out there, you gotta just walk out you know what I mean you. You can't just fight it why what's the Child You know mean he's acting like a child hearing that affect your decision to come vote in person as opposed to by mail or some other way Yes yes. Jesus board he does things to get attention and to. His. Accu from other thing. Meanwhile. Political reports that even if trump isn't planning to leave office, his staff is well into planning a potential transition amid all of this trump did take time this morning to pay his respects to the late juice justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg as she lay in repose at the Supreme Court, the reception he received from the crowd. Was Not warm. I. Vote him out is what the crowd was chanting. Later, the president seemed to try to dismiss what he heard. You'll have some of. That was going on outside. Four. Hours. And fulfill a Fokker win. Well I think that was just a political chant I could we could hardly hear from where we were somebody said there was some Jan thing but They were right next to the media, but we really hardly hear too much. We heard a sound, but it wasn't very strong. Tomorrow Joe Biden will pay his respects to Ginsburg she lies in state at the United States capitol she will be the first woman to be granted that honor here for our leadoff discussion on a Thursday night. Shannon Petty Senior White House reporter for NBC News Digital Bio Wiley Former Assistant United States attorney for the Southern District of New, York at a veteran of the New York. City. Mayor's office now with the new school here in New York and former U. S. Attorney for Alabama Joyce Vance who spent twenty five years as a federal prosecutor good evening to all of you shed and let me just start with you because. I want to go back roughly a month. To Donald Trump and the examples a that he has given us about why this is not going to be a legitimate election talking about mail in balloting to bring us up to speed with where we are today. Let's listen to this. THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA lose this election is if the election is rigged, remember that what's going on with balloting will prove to be one of the great catastrophes in the history of our country from there with the balances, the people sending the ballots in the people, counting the ballots, and who were they sending them to where they being sent those paper ballots. You talk about a bad thing, counterfeit four, Jim do whatever you want. A very serious problem faked ballots, millions, and millions of ballots, cheating those ballots, all of those unsolicited ballots as millions of balance. This is going to be the scam of all time. They're trying to make our numbers look bad this fraud, this missing ballots, there's going to be fraud. It's a disaster what they're doing a hoax with the ballots more than the great embarrassments. In the history of our country they're setting it up for chaos they're doing is trying to sow confusion and everything else I think it's going to be. A terrible time for this country. Shannon what's going on here is the polling that indicates the president that he is trailing in this election and the. Either he's trying to distract from that or he's trying to motivate his people to get out or. What is he doing? Well. You know Allie you and back about a month if you go back a little bit further than that. Two or three months the president was talking about. All Mail in balloting absentee balloting any any ballots sending through the mail he was saying we're susceptible to fraud. Then his advisors senators who are in tough Senate races. Governors started telling him listen. We really need people to be mailing in their vote so they're not going to vote for us. We're heavily reliant on people voting by mail. So then he shifted his argument in the White House shifted their argument to talking about universal, mail in ballots. That's where everyone in a state is every registered voter I should say in a state sent a ballot in the mail you don't have to request that you automatically get it well. Nine states and the District of Columbia are expected to do that, and only one of those states Nevada is even remotely swing state the other States California Oregon Washington New Jersey. A president is expected to lose by double digits like he did in two thousand sixteen. So he is raising an issue with a form of voting that is taking place in heavily democratic states where he has no contest however, the White House continues to try in mush the two together. While, they talk about universal mail in balloting. In the same breath they are talking about Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and raising some sort of bizarre unsubstantiated claims today about. A random ballots being discarded or found in a river the president said. So comparing the two. So people at home with thank that in Pennsylvania millions of people are getting ballots and so if the racist close there, it has something to do with with the idea of every registered voter Gideon valid in the mail. So it's an interesting it's an interesting needle. They're trying to thread between raising issue and the type of voting. That's not going to have an effect on the president's results, and then trying to put that on top of states that just have regular absentee voting like we've had for decades a lot of places and Maya in doing that, he's now added this component of. Not. Perhaps, legitimising the outcome of the election and then not necessarily leaving office. Senator Bernie Sanders was on with Rachel in the last night at the nine o'clock hour. Let's listen to what he told her. While I am worried in have been worried. For a long time. That we have a president. Who will refuse to leave office if he loses the election? And what I believe we got to do is listen Catholic to what he says I know there are people out there. All trump's crazy says, he says that God, they come seriously take him seriously. and. I think most of us can agree with Bernie Sanders on one listened to what he says because the often follows through what are you supposed to do with this information? How are you processing the information where Donald Trump has been de legitimizing the election for well over a month now and now says, maybe I will leave office. Though I process it in a couple of wave. First of all, I process it as a sign that Donald Trump feels very vulnerable in terms of his reelection bid. So vulnerable that what we also thought tonight Jacksonville with some. His usual lies and misrepresentations including about ethanol and. Why was he talking about ethanol and Iowa because he is worried about losing Iowa. So what he has to do then is try to tell the American public not to believe they're lying on right. This is something that's not new for Donald Trump and I think this is the point about mail in balloting, and we should make this very clear. We only have good data about the reliability of mail in balloting. For the most part, we have five states that have been doing. Mail in balloting before twenty twenty as of right meaning you just get a ballot in the mail and you vote by mail. So it is simply not true but it is because he believes he will lose that he's hedging his bets and threatening and I absolutely agree with Bernie Sanders because my Angeles said it best if someone tells you, they are believed them the first time he's tearing up. Joyce one of the things that I think we are getting close to wanting to hear although it seems strange to even say these things is is, do we want hear from the Attorney General from the Department of Homeland Security from the Joint Chiefs of Staff and people like that to to understand what role they will play if Donald Trump doesn't do the thing that the constitution requires of him to do if he loses the election to whom now do we turn for guidance in for direction? So, trump is said something incredibly dangerous. It's the opposite of the basis of our country where every four years. Since George Washington left power, we've had this peaceful turnover of power. It's really one of the jewels in the crown of our democracy and I think your question is the right question to ask. It's absolutely incumbent upon the press to reach out to everyone from Mike Pence on down who forms this president's cabinet and ask them do you support a peaceful transfer of power and and here's the problem and we heard it in your comments in the opening I think from Mark Meadows the chief of staff, and perhaps from others they want it, they wanNA cage this. And say, well, only if the election is free and fair, will we agree to turnover of power and the problem is that Donald Trump is setting up a fake narrative that the election will be unfair I mean he has a remarkable crystal ball here. We are still several weeks out and he already knows that the election is going to be unfair even when his own FBI director has said, historically, there's no nationwide fraud type. The president by the way is alleging that would a indicate that the results of an election would be suspect. So the entire problem here demands consistent statements from everyone in the Republican leadership. I, for one as a citizen would like to hear those. Every day from everybody who will be involved in the peaceful transition of power, which is a cornerstone of our democracy. My Wiley, you've been involved during your career in policing and civilian supervision of policing. We have demonstrations again in Louisville. Tonight we heard Donald Trump say this about about protesters? Let's listen in for. The Democrat Party's war on COPS. is putting the lives of it. Is said police officers endanger last night as you know, do police officers were shot. In Louisville Kentucky every year dozens of courageous police officers lag lay down their lives for people that they never met people that own. Not We're glad to hear that the two officers shot in Louisville Kentucky. They were not was not life threatening. They seem to be on their way to being mended, and we definitely hear a police getting shot for just doing their jobs. What's missing in this conversation right now because the the city of Louisville settled with Brianna Taylor's family acknowledging that there were policing shortcomings that led to her death up to lay people like me that. Indictment was very, very strange. Someone got indicted for wildly shooting into a neighbor's apartment but no one is being held responsible whatsoever for an innocent woman's death at the hands of police what's missing? What's missing here? Alley is a recognition that demonstrators are trying to point our attention to which is that the system is broken because it is working as it is designed to work, and that's what we have to understand Brianna. Taylor is dad because she dumped a boyfriend who apparently may have had problems with the law but has no criminal record of her own and that she died in her apartment shot in her apartment and back if something that we have to ask ourselves, what were we doing there what what demonstrators are saying there is no consequence to the loss of black lives at the hands of police and that is in and of itself an injustice. A settlement, there's no restitution paid by the officers. There is important components in the settlement I don't want to send that suggests that the settlement doesn't have value. It's just the point about justice. Is that just because you wear a bad doesn't mean you can hide behind it. When you kill someone, you should have taken greater precautions to protect and what black folks. And all kinds of Americans of all races, all classes, all all all stripes are saying is something really is broken because it is working the way it was designed and we should change that stress you and I've talked a lot about the suppression of First Amendment Rights by this president, the amount that he takes joy in talking about suppressing reporters right in Louisville. Three journalists were arrested last night too from the daily caller, a conservative outlet that is usually very very supportive of the president and in particular of police in these in these uprisings but they were arrested and held after identifying themselves as press and after the daily caller. Spoke to the Louisville Metro Police Department told them. that. They were police. Now the fact that they're friendly to donald trump friendly to police shouldn't have a bearing on this matter the a first amendment applies to us all equally but there does seem to be something afoot in this administration that is making its way down to local police about disrespecting in dishonoring the press that's dangerous for society. Gets set at the top on this and it's always been a certainty that the White House. That's not say that in every administration, there's been one hundred and five percent support for the press. Obviously, there are always issues of give and take, but there's a fundamental commitment to the First Amendment and the problem that we're seeing now filter into cities we had arrests in Birmingham during Blm. Rallies where we had reporters arrested that tells you that it's spread all across the country. It is because of this tolerance if not encouragement that the president offers for viewing the press as the enemies and we need to remember that the free press is all that stands between us a government that shrouded completely so that it can do whatever it wants to do without having any sort of light shined on its procedures. Justice Brandeis, used to love to say that sunlight is the best disinfectant the press they're the people that bring disinfectant to our society. So losing that would be terrible discouragement to the constitution and important for Americans to remember it's not about the press you like about people who write the things you like the First Amendment, is for all of us. Thank you to all three of you this evening. Shannon petty piece. Maya Wiley Joyce Vance coming up with five days to go until the first debate campaign veteran David gives us his take on just how consequential that face off is going to be, and later we'll ask a retired four star general who fought for our democracy about the president's refusal to commit to a peaceful transfer of power the eleventh hour just getting started on a Thursday night. On Friday October sixteenth how one man saw the presidency will change how you see the world focused features and MSNBC films present the way. I. See it based on the New York Times number one bestseller from the producer of the Academy Award Winning Free Solo and director Don Porter. This new documentary offers an unprecedented look behind the scenes at two of the most iconic precedence in American history Barack Obama and Ronald Reagan as seen through the eyes of renown official, White House photographer Pete. 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Some of the president's supporters are already bracing for a humiliating loss new polling released by Fox News shows former vice president Joe Biden leading in three key swing states trump trailing in Nevada Ohio and Pennsylvania where the president has been spending a lot of time. Tonight. David plus former Obama campaign manager and senior adviser to President Obama is also on the board of directors of the Obama. Foundation. His latest book is a citizens guide to. Beating Donald Trump. David, I wanNA talk about the debate, but I want to talk to you about this business about not committing to a peaceful transfer of power I can never gauge for myself because I'm so in it what's newly outrageous or aware on the outrage rank something sits but this one stirred something in me as a citizen not as a journalist I'm an immigrant to this country and I I held that thing the transfer of power to be a thing that sets most modern democracies apart and certainly America apart. Well it got to Ali. I think you know this is. A threat to the entire enterprise, you have a sitting United States, press president threatening to ignore the results of an election. And two. If you read the Atlantic article that came out yesterday as well you know things like establishing a rival electoral college slates though in the state legislature is now I think a lot of that listen the strategy behind this I think is to suppress the vote. Trump in his campaign are trying to make it seem to Democratic voters who may be on the fence about voting the maybe the election won't count. So I don't think that's going to be successful I. also think he setting up if he loses you know he kind of wants to be the president of an exile. Someone who is wrongfully defeated. So listen if Joe Biden win this election by one vote or one st a, he is going to be the next president of the United States but I think the message that we need to send you know not just Democrats independents Republicans care about their country is a stinging defeat, donald trump and his enablers because I think we really can get numb to this The lies the racism I mean I've hardly say that he he but every day he's out there being racist being misogynous lying threatening the press but this now has crossed the line and actually think it is going to hurt him in the election. Because I think there may be twenty five percent of the people in the country who would be fine if we ignore the election results, but the other seventy, five percent including a lot of Republicans do consider this to be the most chairs thing in our country. Is that going back to George Washington we have a peaceful transfer of the president's. David let's talk about the debate Donald Trump has from a very early point in this campaign long before, Joe Biden was the candidate talked about sleepy Joe and discussed his his mental state things like that. He's he's been managing expectations that. People might be surprised by debate night. I think. So I mean the bar there's low for biting. Let's let's be clear. There are voters in Florida in Wisconsin in Arizona weather. They are truly still swing voters and really haven't checked into the race or voters who may be a Democrats of, but not sure they're going to register a vote and they haven't really seen by what they might hear some of this stuff is Biden really up to this. Kenny hand trump could handle the presidency. And they're not watching all interviews and I think it's been pretty crystallography weeks. So Biden I think as a low bar to cross but the pressure here on trump Joe Biden has had a significant in stable lead all the way going back to pre pandemic the polls you just showed Joe Biden over fifty percent in swing boats. Trump has to pull vote away from bite net is just a mathematical reality. So trump is the one who has. All the pressure on him, he has to disrupt the race next. Monday next Tuesday, and if he doesn't, I'm not gonNA, suggest that the next three debates aren't important. But if Biden does well next week and trump underperforms or doesn't shake up the race, which is what he has to do I think you're gonNA see some people tune out the rest of the debate. So next Tuesday is the most important date offer the remainder of the campaign. Saying something from you David Good to see was always thank you David plop coming up a you never never know Florida was once a corona virus hotspot by looking at these pictures from tonight's trump rally and Jacksonville we're GONNA. Ask a doctor who treats Kobe. Patients about that and get medical update from the Sunshine State when the eleventh hour continues. The vaccine will be safe and it will be affected. It will defeat the virus and it will end the pandemic vaccine comes we look at it as an important tool to supplement the public health measures that we do, but it is not going to eliminate the need to be prudent and careful without public health measures. The president at odds with the experts yet again, today over whether a vaccine could actually end the pandemic and as we've officially topped seven million confirmed cases tonight in the United States, we're still learning more about the risks with this virus new data from the city says young adults infected by corona virus set off surges that have sickened older Americans as the New York. Times. Notes quote from June through. August. The incidents of cove nineteen was highest among young among adults aged twenty to twenty nine years. Old Young adults accounted for more. Than twenty percent of all confirmed cases this week after a marathon meeting the fourth largest school district in the country Miami Dade voted to push back in person school reopenings until next month for more on this, let's bring in Dr Eileen. Marty, she's a professor of Infectious Diseases at Florida, International University in Miami she's a former navy officer. She's worked on global medicine with the World Health Organization Dr Marty. Thank you for being with us. This week alone has seen some remarkable milestones seven million cases crossed in the United States confirmed cases. Two hundred thousand deaths, which unfortunately is quite in line with some of the better projections that we've had about. The way things are going, and we still have places in the United States where cases are increasing and we are still losing somewhere around one thousand people a day more than seven months into this. This is just there's no other way to look at this compared to other countries than public health failure. I can't. I can't disagree with you. It is tragic to know that we have twenty two percent of the cases and we constitute four percent of the world's population. In Florida. We at the end of June, we had a about a June twenty second we of one, hundred, thousand cases. Now, we're almost at seven hundred thousand cases. We're doing a lot better we put in a lot of measures. We made a lot of changes in our. In our behavior in in in mass mandates, and so forth in particular counties where it was necessary to do so. And our numbers have come down dramatically no longer at twenty percent positive rate in our testing where now hovering around five percent over the last few days where in fact, we're a little bit below five percent, which is good. So most of the criteria that we had a look at for community criteria in order to reopen schools, which is one of the things that we're very concerned about now happen been met. With just a couple of lagging indicators. So the science can help us get through this and they're a lot of people who think. Schools are not a bad idea because we could monitor them very closely. We can act if something goes wrong but we have to do. So with the understanding that we may not know enough about how the spreads meanwhile the President's adviser in this Dr. Scott Atlas? Seems to be just sort of putting out there the idea that there's no danger with kids either to them or to the people they're going to infect. We know this not to be true. Well you've named an individual that I don't understand why he's a member of the team at all because he's not an infectious disease doctor, he's not an epidemiologist he has no particular background in this field so. And I read the letter from his colleagues at Stanford. Medicine. That are quite upset by the the the disgraceful types of comments that he has made. Let's talk about what's happening in? Florida Jacksonville about three hundred and fifty miles I guess from where you are the president. Held a rally tightly packed like like. So many of his rallies many without masks we're looking at images of it right now. Literally, I mean you'd be hard pressed to find masks in there. What goes through your mind when you see this kind of behavior. I see trouble I see that there is there's people putting themselves in harm's way and. And I think that it is the responsibility of the leaders to make sure that people act in ways that do not increase the spread of a dangerous and very Easy to spread virus. You are you you teach infectious diseases, people I know like you or virologists or? All just this is not terribly sexy work most of the time, but you understand that solving these problems is protocols rules things that have been tried before and putting it forward. Why are we in this position that we're in right now where we are We are now in a position to doubt what are officials tell us we don't even know when the FDA tells us something or the CDC tells us something whether there's been political involvement in that I would like to know as as an American. That this information is untainted. I've had the privilege to work most of my adult life for the federal government I have worked for. The Department of Defense as you mentioned early on. I worked for the Department of Homeland. Security for a hhs in various capacities, and I can assure you that we have some of the finest scientists working in the federal government for trying every day to do the right thing and to and to provide us with the right science I've never before seen the kind of political pressure on our federal agencies in something that is so vital and so important to our health as I've seen. In the last few months and quite frankly it puts us in a very awkward position. It puts all of us in a very awkward position because when information is posted to a webpage belongs to one of these agencies that we rely on to give us good solid data and those of us who've been studying the science in know of the risks in and review all the work that's going on and see our own patients realize. Is Not workable and is not practical and then we have to go to the people that are the decision makers in our units and explain to them why we we have to go above and beyond what the CDC is recommending And why it's it's an extremely unfortunate thing us but it's also horrible for the United States and for all the citizens because. When people don't know what to rely on they stop thinking they stopped acting in a way that based on critical thinking and instead base their judgments on emotion in even base their judgment emotions they're very easily swayed by individuals who don't necessarily have their best interests at heart a threat. The number of texts and emails I've gotten from people with no medical training whatsoever sending me information on what we really need to do when in fact that information should be readily available to all Americans from sources like you and the people like you who work in government truly Mardi thank you for the work that you do Dr Ali. Marty is a professor of Infectious Diseases at Florida International. University, in Miami coming up more on the president's take on the transition of power with a man who dedicated his life to defending democracy we're going to hear from General Barry McCaffrey when the eleventh hour continues. Higher everyone it's joy Reid. I'm so excited to tell you about my new MSNBC show the readout every weeknight I'm talking with the biggest news makers about the most pressing issues of our time like Joe Biden the words president matter and so as President United States the first thing I'm GonNa. Do is stand up and talk sense and be honest with the American people level with them. Atlanta Mayor Keisha. Land's bottom. We need as many voices as we can have. As possible sounding the alarm encouraging people to wear masks and to take all precautions to bottle the science and the data Senator Comma Harris We send folks into war wearing camouflage. So what is going on here when you said camouflage uniformed officers into a city and many more, you can listen to the readout as podcast by searching for the readout. That's R. E. I D. O. U. T. One word wherever you're listening right now and subscribing for free. Thanks for listening. But it reminds him you are not in North Korea you are not in Turkey you're not in Russia Mr President and by the way you are not in Saudi. Arabia. You in the United States of America it is a democracy. So. Why don't you just? Try for a moment to honor your oath of office. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi today when asked about the president, not committing to a peaceful transfer of power should he lose the election? The New York Times points out quote trump for his part does not seem to mind all the criticism and appears intent on sowing doubt about the legitimacy of an election he is in danger of losing. And quote with US talk about this General Barry McCaffrey a decorated combat veteran of Vietnam of Iraq of a whole lot of places. In fact, I was going to unite general we have talked for years but I I was looking up all the places you've been in the world all the places that are forces were because of unstable governments governments that didn't accept. The Voice of the people and I worry today that we have introduced this into our lexicon here in the United States for the first time in our democratic history, the idea that we will de-legitimize our own election and then the president will not be willing to move off. Before eighteen sixty with Jefferson Davis. But literally in modern times. You're entirely correct. There's no pressure the United States hip dared to call into question the underlying principles of democracy free and fair election. So it's a very dangerous situation, and by the way when you're trying to understand what someone would will do in the future, you should take into account their words, what are they saying and what are they writing? So I think we ought to take Mr Trump. At, face value listen to what he's saying in writing and be extremely concerned the other side of that. Equation of clearly is we have institutions that will protect us that won't buckle which saw the FBI director talk frankly the Congress who We have some very I think strong minded people in government they're going to have to speak up in the coming month. So this is what I want to ask you about general because we have a lot of political commentators on the show, and then we have people like you decorated soldiers. We have military people with you have worked for government and in the military. At this point who are the voices we need to hear from who represent the institutions that you? Assure will protect us. Are we looking for the Attorney General for the Defense Secretary for the Department of Homeland Security? Secretary, who needs to tell us don't worry about all this stuff will make sure this goes the way it's supposed to go. Well, I think we have a lot of trust in the civil service. Professionals throughout government, we ought to have a great deal of confidence in the armed forces. To obey the constitution, we have to trust at the FBI federal law enforcement, Will Bay the law. Having said that you know it's clear to me. To my astonishment, some of these Republicans who I know and admire. Have remained mute in the face of what in my judgment is a rogue presidency fill with illegalities with disregard of the Constitution of taking money that hadn't been appropriated by Congress of not standing up to our enemies at Mr Putin A. de-legitimizing the vote, we have hundreds of thousands of armed forces, troops, and their families who will vote by mail. So again, it's a very I think threatening situation and the Republicans in Congress. now speak up strongly to stand behind the law. I think we ought to count on the supreme. Court. The to be a professional into obey the law in the media had better stay aggressive in observant. There's a message to all of us that we accept General Barry McCaffrey. Thank you Sir for being with us as always coming up how at America first approach to covert nineteen vaccine whenever there is one could end up doing more damage than good when the eleventh hour continues. Donald Trump is not the only world late leader in eager pursuit of a vaccine for corona virus. Other countries around the world are also rushing to develop their own. The fractured effort could leave poorer nations without one and that could have a worldwide impact as NBC News correspondent, Carl? Nazran? Reports. Nations around the world or vaccine shopping spree buying up access to doses even before they complete scientific trials and it's wealthy countries like the United. States. Most of the by. The US already securing exclusive rights to at least one point, six, billion doses of several promising vaccine candidates. If all of them proved safe and effective, that's enough to give every American nearly five shots several other countries including the UK and the European. Union also walking in early access to vaccines from various drugmakers. Nearly, half the future supply of a vaccine being developed right here at the University of Oxford the World Health. Organization. Calling this behavior vaccine nationalism, the first priority must be vaccinate sampling own countries rather than all people in some countries. This entire crisis has been a global tug of war wealthy countries, stockpiling scarce resources like ventilators and face masks. Now, with a future vaccine expected to be in short supply countries that can't pay upfront already in danger of being stuck at the back of the line the head of the Africa CDC John. Kanga Song is concerned a vaccine won't arrive in Africa at the same time as the US or Europe. That's exactly what happened during the swine flu pandemic in two thousand nine. Ended the nineties lifesaving HIV AIDS anti retroviral drugs were widely available in the US nearly a decade before Africa. They were ticky to program that the history of what the continent went to. Is. This the best kept secrets in global health to ensure equal access this time the WHO is teaming up with group called Garvey four ambitious plan to deliver two billion doses of vaccines around the world by the end of next year. So the idea here is, can we provide vaccines developed and developing countries at the same time and and try to make sure that you? Cover the key groups that need it. The most more than one hundred and fifty countries have joined the collaboration called Kovacs rich and poor nations pooling resources to buy multiple vaccine candidates and share the most effective once the US is going it alone a trump administration spokesperson saying quote, we will not be constrained by multilateral organizations influenced by the corrupt World Health Organization and China. Public Health experts feared the decision to put America I could leave the US and the rest of the world at even. Greater risk. Carl NBC. News. Oxford England. Our thanks to Carl coming up maybe twenty twenty isn't all that bad. Our continues. The. Last thing before we go tonight is about this year, we are living through the year twenty, twenty, anno. Domini will without a doubt become an object of fascination for future historians, a pandemic political strife, a recession, societal unrest, and much more have led people to turn to gallows humor a lot this year twitter's filled day in and day out with gifts like this one. This is fine cartoon of the dog with a cup of coffee in a burning room which. Seven years old and more popular than ever the phrase dumpster fire has been used so much. It's finally been made into an action bigger, which is already sold out everywhere. You try to find it on live. There are also those joking we think about something from the void of space just getting it all over with from bumper stickers two yard side. You don't have to look too hard to find giant asteroid twenty, twenty merch out there and it turns out. That one has some potential. NASA says today September Twenty, four, an asteroid, the size of a school bus sailed past us at a distance of about thirteen thousand miles above the earth surface that's closer by the way been some satellites that are orbiting Earth but not to fear. They also add vit- even if it had been on a collision course, it would almost certainly have broken up once it entered the earth's atmosphere. So for now NASA says, we're in the clear congratulations or condolences whatever the case may be for you that the bus sized asteroid missed hitting earth today. On. And that is broadcast tonight on behalf of all of my colleagues at the networks have NBC News. Good night. In an election year like no other, there are now less than six weeks until November third election day Tuesday, Donald Trump Joe Biden. Go head to head in the first presidential debate join Rachel Meadow Koalas Joy Reid Brian Williams and MSNBC's team of political experts for the analysis you need on how this debate will inform the final weeks of the election and Steve Kornacki will break down the latest data for you at the big board. The first presidential debates watch Tuesday at eight PM EASTERN ON MSNBC.