Day 1,205: Trump claims without evidence COVID-19 will go away without a vaccine
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Twelve hundred five of the trump administration. One hundred seventy nine days to go until our next presidential election. And let's set the scene. I tonight today. The president welcomed Republican members of Congress in the state dining room. The president was seated directly in front of the fireplace and just beneath the inscription from John. Adams that says may none but honest to end wisemen ever rule under this roof and from that place the president said this about the corona virus quote. I feel about vaccines the way I feel about ten. This is going to go away without a vaccine. And we're not gonNA see it again and that is not true as we go into this weekend with close to eighty thousand dead in this country after we lost just under two thousand people just today. It is more important than ever to point out. This is not just going to go away and from that same room. The president went on to say some people. Don't want our country to come back for political reasons. Then he said quote the real people and he defined the real people as those who want this country to be great and great again. They want to get back as he puts it more on the president's comments in moments but as we delve back into the real world now we tested three hundred thousand people today in our country of three hundred. Twenty seven million give or take and the death toll tonight stands at seventy seven thousand nine hundred seventy four the state of Georgia. The first day to undergo a so-called reopening is currently seeing a forty percent spike in corona virus cases. This is the weekend remember. So many states are poised to relax restrictions part of the president's campaign to reopen the country during an active pandemic and on a day when we learned of a second positive case in the president's circle in the West wing of the White House more on that in a moment but first here. Just FOR CLARITY. Is the president from today again beneath the quote left behind for us all from John Adams the first president to live in the People's House. I think some people don't want really to come back for political reasons which is sick but the people the real people the people that want this country to be great and great again. We can say they want to get back and we're going to have embers. We're GONNA have fires. We're going to have things to put out. We'll put them out. We learned a lot. You know things that we had no idea two months ago. We've learned a lot over the last couple of months and we're going to do a job like like nobody seen before. I feel about vaccines like I feel about test. This is going to go away. Some diamond for all years have flare ups. Maybe maybe not but according to what a lot of people say you probably will be able to put them out and now to the damage. That is behind the drive to come back. The virus has already wiped out a decade of job. Gains were now in the throes of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression Labor Department says more than twenty million people lost their jobs and April. That's the largest one month drop in. Us history unemployment rate has soared to fourteen point seven percent the worst since nineteen thirty three when it reached twenty five just this morning. The president predicted a swift rebound. Those jobs will all be back at. It will be back very soon and next year. We're GONNA have a phenomenally. That view is not shared by a lot of economists. As we mentioned there is another case of corona virus within the trump inner circle the press secretary for Mike Pence Katie. Miller today. Confirm she tested positive. One day after testing negative. She happens to be married to. Stephen Miller speechwriter architect of the trump immigration policy. Tonight the White House said Miller had tested negative for corona for covert nineteen. Just yesterday we learned a military steward for president. Trump had also tested positive tonight political reports. Fda Steven Hahn has tested negative after coming into contact with Katie Miller. But tonight we are told he is still quarantining nonetheless. Here's a photo from a pence event. Yesterday showing on the right and unmasked Katie Miller speaking to members of the traveling press corps trump said he hadn't come into contact with Katie Miller and said he and Pensa both tested negative our network reports. The White House has now adopted new measures to try to safeguard against further infections including offering testing and contact tracing exactly what so many municipalities would very much like to be able to do keep in mind only roughly two and a half percent of all Americans have been tested. These new measures also include requiring White House staff who served the president who are close to him throughout the workday to wear face coverings. Trump himself was again without a mask today while honoring World War Two veterans on this the seventy fifth anniversary of the day the man in addition to being treasured American citizens of course happened to be in a high risk group due to old age. You're with seven American heroes earlier today. These World War. Two hours all in their in their nineties. Did you consider wearing a mask when you were with them? Because I was very far away. Appreciate the question hour very far away from them as you know I would've loved to got up and hugged them because they great. I had a conversation with everyone but we were very far away. You saw plus. The wind was blowing so hard and such a direction that have ever reached them. Might be very surprised. The wind was howling. And I didn't see anybody with mascot. Or No. Maybe they were but they were great conversations with them but I was standing as you noticed. Would you say I was quite far away? Meanwhile the Associated Press has new information tonight on a story broke yesterday regarding. Cdc Advice on how states should begin. Reopening the says it has obtained internal government emails that say quote the decision to shelve detailed advice from the nation's top disease control experts for reopening communities during the corona virus pandemic came from the highest levels of the White House files also show that after the AP reported Thursday the Guidance Document had been buried trump administration ordered key parts of it to be fast tracked for approval. Our network has not seen these. Emails has not confirmed the story. As we mentioned most dates will be reopening in some form or fashion this coming weekend. Ask For New York the epicenter of the pandemic in this country. The Governor says finally. The beast is on the run. The good news on the overall is we're finally ahead of this virus numbers coming down in New York. I get the emotion. Everybody would like to see everything reopen tomorrow but you tell me what the viruses doing you. Tell me the facts on the virus out. Tell you what we can do in terms of reopening here for our leadoff discussion. On the last night of the week John Holloman National Affairs analysts co host of the circus on showtime editor in chief over at the recount Shannon Petty Piece of veteran journalists senior White House reporter for us at NBC News Digital. And we welcome to our broadcast Neil Irwin. He's senior economics correspondent for the New York Times where he writes for the upshot the time site for analysis of politics and Economics and the intersection of each Shannon. I'd like to begin with you now. It's close someone close to the president. Someone close to the vice president testing positive. The president among all the staff members refusing to wear a mask. I'm tempted to ask what could go wrong but mostly I'm tempted to ask how much closer visit need to get well. This is almost as close as it can get aside from being You know having a member of his direct family Infected the valet who we reported earlier on this week was infected with someone who is serving the president's meals who was in very close contact Sources tell us throughout the day up until the day he was sick Katie Miller the vice president's spokesperson is someone who is in on the Krona Task Force meetings on the president. The vice president said they don't have close contact with her. But you can see there in that photo traveling with the vice president Just yesterday So many of us have experienced this where someone in our family or someone in our workplace becomes infected Get sick and we know that feeling will. I'm told that the feeling that's going on in the West Wing right now that that things finally got real in the White House this week and I don't think we know yet what the full changes in ramifications of that are going to be But are reporting indicates that the president was very upset when he found out about one of his ballets infected earlier. This week felt his staff was joined enough to protect him. And now we're seeing them. Put some measures in place. Like having staffers where math than There were some reporters who were tested today. One of the few times. They've actually may testing available to reporters But I next week we're going to see a little bit more of what sort of could have on the president perspective on all of this John. Indeed it got worse tonight kaitlan Collins over at CNN reporting that the personal assistant to Ivanka has tested positive for covert nineteen The upshot is at least the White House can boast about having the best testing anywhere in the United States though John Mask wearing has devolved like everything else into things red and things blue were seeing a blind quotes emerged from the West Wing this week. That masks are for panicked liberals was this to be expected hundred percent. It was be expected. Brian and I think you from the moment that the president that verse time came out and said I won the back on the daily Corona virus briefings. We're still happening. And he was still attending them on on a daily basis. He came out and said you know maths or a good idea You should probably wear one but I'm not going to. I think no one watching that day did not think to themselves. This is going to lead to a bad place The president is you know having covered a lot of White House. The president sets a lot of has authority of many many many kinds in the White House in the West Wing and one of them is the power of example. And when you see the president you listen if you work in that building you listen to what the President says you also watch what he does and I think especially in this west wing where the the people there are although they often leak and they often backed by they often backstab. They're very loyal. And in some cases. Agile Tori towards the president. I think as soon as they looked at saw he was going to wear one. Most of them are not going to wear them either. And that of course as you say now as part of a larger political cultural ideological overlay around the country but the prices now going to get paid no one is immune to this virus. You pointed out a number of times the viruses Nazi red and blue and the White House. Learning right now neil are one. I have two questions for you right off the bat by way of welcoming you into our humble confines number one. How bad does this get? I'm guessing everyone asks you some form of that question and number two. How many of these jobs to quote the great lyric ain't coming back so this is extraordinarily bad unemployment numbers. We got this morning. Are really the tip of the iceberg. These are numbers based on surveys from the second week of April. That's already nearly a month ago. It's gotten worse since then. This is a catastrophe of unemployment across the United States. Your question. When will these jobs come back when how? I think? This is really not something that economists can answer. This really depends on. To what degree CAN PEOPLE FEEL SAFE? Going to work going to stores going to restaurants and as long as that's not the case we're going to see depressed employment we might see a little bounce back as some of the shutdowns ease in some states but the idea that this economy will be anything other than depressed a long as. I don't feel comfortable engaging. The routine routines of commerce is is really a pipedream not how it works and is there a percentage to put on these job losses. That are as economists. Like to say hopefully temporary so officially there are numbers. How many people think they're temporarily employed? It's something like eighteen. Million Out of the twenty million people who are who are currently unemployed in the last report came out this morning. The problem is in normal times. That means something if people say I'm just temporarily not working but I still have this job to go back to but what we don't know is how many businesses won't exist in a few months if this goes on and how many of these jobs people think they might be able to go back to are not going to exist. If restaurants all kinds of organizations companies go under or have to radically scale back from where they were just two months ago and so I don't take a lot of solace in that the White House did you know. There's some reason to think that Oh eighteen. Eighteen million out of the twenty or temporary. But these are not. These are unusual times. And I think there's reason to think that is going to be a more lasting kind of damage than we've seen him ask for sessions so Shannon petty piece from your vantage point covering this White House. What is left in the president's toolbox To other than talking up the economy talking up quote getting back Especially since on the unemployment and death toll front he's been of late using the Scorsese and it is what it is. Well I mean I think that Kinda hits the nail in the head that we're now in a stage where there's not that much the White House can do really they've really. I mean. Of course everyone can come up with things they can do but they pulled a lot of the big levers they can pull economically There's things talking about liability waivers so giving companies protection so if they reopened and someone gets sick they can't get sued but that's not necessarily something they can do with an executive order for the entire. Konami others tax cuts. That seems to be the president's really go to move now let's cut the payroll tax cut capital gains tax Force that requires Congress and this administration has not shown that they can really bring people together and build bridges in Congress to get a big piece of legislation. Passed on and on the front with the virus You know they've they've shifted so much focused towards reopening the economy That I didn't even really hear that much. Talk within the administration. About what are we going to do to try and get these numbers down these twenty five thousand cases that were still seeing a give or take a thousand every day John Holloman. I'm going to read to you. What Matthew Dowd tweeted earlier this afternoon and I quote exactly. What can the incumbent president run on? He can't run on the economy. He can't run on healthcare. He can't run as a moral leader. He can't run on bringing the country together. He can't run on leaders he put in power. He can't run on justice. Exactly what can he run on when I posed that question to someone already actively involved in the anti trump campaign effort I got a two word answer back China and Mexico you concur? I do Brian I think there's something close to that simple. I think he no. This isn't going to be. This election was already setting up to be an election where donald trump was going to try to change the terms of the election from pure referendum on himself into a choice between him and Joe Biden and then seek to disqualify Joe Biden. That's the standard unpopular incumbents playbook. It's Barack Obama did to Mitt Romney in two thousand twelve George W Bush to John Carey in two thousand four Bill Clinton did it Bob Dole in one thousand nine hundred ninety six. That's what he was going to do. That's when he when he had a strong economy to run on and had that anymore. And so now you have the same playbook except on the economic side trump making some kind of a hypothetical prospective theoretical argument that as he says over and over again. I built the world's greatest economy an odd moment. Wanted to rebuild it. That's one side of the argument and the other side is Joe. Biden is horrible and a big chunk of that will be about China and we saw the president's ads this week. The big ten million dollar ad by they did this week. That is all focused on Biden China. But there will be other parts of the disqualification attempts on Biden. Many of them much more personal and many of them much more vicious than that nealer when The Tel on when the president has learned a new phrase that has been said in his presence. Is He then uses it daily? I'm going to play this for you. What he has learned to call the coming third. Quarter of twenty twenty. I think that Third Quarter. It's obviously a transition quarter. Third Quarters Transitional. It's a translating into. But it's a very transitional period. I think the transition's gonna be really terrific. A very strong transition beautiful hopefully very good transition verse successful transition tremendous Transition you could almost say transition into greatness. I call it the transition degrade. But that's the slogan transition degrade this Neil What is the third quarter looking like to you There is a real possibility that we're going to get a Yo yo effect so suppose you have something. That's at one hundred and goes to eighty and then it comes back to ninety going from eighty hundred ninety. It feels like a really big increase but it still. You're still way below where you were. And that's what we might have second quarter. That's the April may June quarter. It's going to be terrible licked. Horrendous numbers all across the board there is a real possibility that in the third quarter which is July August September. We kind of come back somewhat. And we have that. Kinda you'll you'll effect that makes the headlines in September October right before the election. Look like we're getting some progress in getting a rebound that said the odds are that the economy is going to be way below where it was for. This all began that we're still going to be functioning at very high levels of employment very low levels. Gdp ended What we're seeing is just kind of a statistical artifact when these things bounce around I that's not what the president means but I think that's. What most economists who really look carefully expect us to see over the months ahead our thanks to nealer window. Shannon Petty Peace and John Heilmann always valued member of this kitchen cabinet coming up. The Corona virus gets as close to the president and vice president as you can get. Will that change anything and later? The struggle over how when to reopen things. We'll hear from two mayors living it when we continue. I think by Memorial Day weekend we will largely have this Corona virus epidemic. That was just April twenty fourth. The prediction probably not going to come. True considering cases are on the rise across our country as we wait for things to get better. Two thirds of our nation agrees. The country should not be reopened. This is according to the latest polling but behind the numbers a stark partisan divide. That will surprise. No-one ninety two percent of Democrats agree and immediate opening is not worth sacrificing public safety only thirty five percent of Republicans agree with that back with us again tonight. Dr Van Gupta. He's an er Docs specializing in exactly these kinds of illnesses. Also an affiliate assistant professor with the University of Washington's Department of Health Metrics Sciences. So doctor we have to positive cases in the West Wing we learn tonight Ivanka. Trump's personal assistant tested positive. If you were White House physician a job where you yes. Take Care of the staff but you basically have one patient. Would you have that patient wearing a mask and taking greater precautions during the workday that only for the president's own health which is important obviously for the entire country that the president remains healthy and safe but also for him setting an example? We need the president to stop the mixed messages on mass. I appreciated the second that you just had because he talked extensively but these mixed messages vice president hence at Mayo Clinic. Senator Paul the only senator in the entire chamber to test positive for Kobe. Nineteen comes back to Capitol Hill. The only senator not to wear a mask governors of wine great initial strength on basks in for reopening of Ohio. Walk that back. We need whether you're red or blue doesn't matter masks science behind it. It's a critical part of a return to normalcy strategy. In it starts with the President I WANNA play for you and our audience a comment. The president made today and have you react to it on the other side. I feel about vaccines like I feel about test. This is going to go away without a vaccine. It's going to go away and it's we're not going to see it again. Hopefully after a period of time what evidence have you seen that this is going to go away without a vaccine? Just rely on what doctors say. They say it's going to go. That doesn't mean this year doesn't mean it's going to be gun frankly by the full or after the fall but eventually it's going to go away the question is will we need a vaccine. At some point it will probably go away by itself. Doctor is it going to go away by itself. Do we not need a vaccine so the doctors that I listened to the experts that I listened to and the lived reality obscene in the I see was that it absolutely is not percival Brian. As we've talked about we're flying blind we have saliva testing now. Thank God now. We'll have home testing capabilities. Maybe we'RE GONNA get to mass testing. That was a piece of great news. We're flying in the blind and any forecasting model says. Look it's GonNa take a while for us to get to hurt immunity when most of the population we think will have been exposed. So when does that time actually What does that actually GonNa Happen? We're not thinking it's twenty twenty two. Potentially we're thinking social distancing may be required intermittently until then some of who the president is listening to when when he's quoting statements but let's their five false. I'm glad you mentioned the new saliva test approved by the FDA proud to say developed at Rutgers University in New Jersey. The question becomes. What's the lag time to market? And what's behind the lag in all of our good intentions? We all want everyone what the president said now months ago everyone who wants a test can get a test wasn't true then isn't true tonight. Where are we in that? So there's a lot there Bryan. Let me try to answer that. It's distinct as I can number one. This is already commercial so the question here is how quickly Guinea get at home. There's GonNa be a few week lag for sure as the regulatory process finalizes. That's great news. But if you're the right clinical setting you could potentially get a saliva test now through this ruckers test the big issue the big hurdle here and this is a broader issue is that we're still waiting for certain groups to get tested. You have to be symptomatic. That's the guidance still for the slightest symptoms. So as ice you talk I have to still be symptomatic. If you're the press secretary for Vice President Pence looks like you can get a test any day you want. So we need to widen the criteria for who gets tested whether saliva or still that nasal swab tests. We need to start expanding it to those who are asymmetric. But we'll be going to the workplace just because that's how we're going to start the American economic engine testing everybody. This is a great piece of news. I suspect in the next two weeks. It'll be scaled at home around here. When we go about paging Dr Gupta he responds. Dr Gupta. Thank you as always. It's always a pleasure coming up for us on this Friday night to mayors of two very different cities on opposite sides of our country but they do share one thing in common. We'll talk about that after this with this virus still spreading in many places today the mayor of Boston. Marty Walsh announced that all events that require a permit this summer including parades festivals will be cancelled. Smaller gatherings are going to be considered on a case by case basis. Massachusetts has seventy five thousand confirmed cases and at least forty seven. Hundred deaths blamed on this virus over ten thousand of the cases are in Boston proper across the country in the smaller yet. Hard hit city of Gallup New Mexico famously. One of the stops on route sixty six. A lockdown is being slowly lifted into that city had been closed to non-residents tonight. They're back open. But with restrictions the surrounding McKinley county accounts for roughly thirty percent of all cases in the State New Mexico has over forty six hundred confirmed cases over one hundred eighty deaths thus far we welcome tonight. The mayors of both of these cities to our broadcast. Marty Walsh of Boston and Louis Bone weighty mayor of Gallup New Mexico Mayor Walsh first of all to you there's no bruins there's no celtics there's no socks at some point. It must feel a little less Boston every day. These decisions on public gatherings must be an extremely painful party. Job They really are. I mean we're entering into a time of the year that we didn't have a marathon We didn't have a Saint Patrick's Day. We WE HAVE A LOT OF FESTIVALS. Parades all this time of year at the pride trae cancel shop It's GonNa be a long summer. Means it's been a long spring but honestly with corona virus. And it's going to be a long summer here in Boston. I think when we don't have all these great outdoor events that we usually have Mr Mayor. I haven't been to fenway since the game. When Don Zimmer got toss during the bench clearing brawl but I remember very very tight passageways. It's just it's just an old place. It's not a modern era stadium. How do you go back to socks games? Even socially distant says a crowd. I I know that I been talking to San Kennedy the prize in the Red Sox. They're trying to figure out if baseball comes back and they do that. How do they do it? It's going to be complicated. Obviously I think all of this is not gonNA disappear by Memorial Day. We're going to be lookie dealing with the current. I think for quite some time here and I think is going to be very complicated for people to gather at family or at the Boston Garden or maybe even football when football seasons September. I think that you know for us. It's about testing. It's about metrics but looking at how can we sat to interact with people safely here in the long term. I think that we still have a ways to go. Mayor Bone watched some of the local coverage of year controversial decision out there to put put roadblocks up and have members of your PD. Try to catch people coming off the interstate especially from coming in. I know you've decided to open the door a crack. What was public acceptance like in the end? And what data on the curve? Did you were you able to act on well Basically I have to give you the history of it in a sense Gallup has such a unique community because we sit in the middle of about five Indian reservations. And what happens usually on The first of the month which basically is a is a pay week get an influx of around thirty fifty people coming into the community and because of the numbers that have been showing up We're thirty percent of the of the total number of cases in New Mexico We knew that we got that many people. It one time that we would definitely have problems so it was After conferring with the our Governor Governor Luhan the decision was. Let's let's close off. Let's close the city off in See if we can stop the spread of this epidemic. Now the last thing you want mayor grady is to cut down on your tax base shut down local businesses harm local families. Are you confident? Now that you are opening the door crack that you can you can track these cases and stay on top of it. Well hopefully. That's the thing we've been watching the numbers On a daily basis biggest problem is the testing is so slow. The testing takes about two and a half days. And the we'd love to test everybody in in the in the in the area but that's impossible though the only oust circuit basically is trying to stop spread and the encouragement locker. We figure we're the hot spot and so we're trying to do basically is Is Keep it from spreading to the reservation. Which which I think at this point is very vulnerable. Marty Walsh. You can't shut down the hub. You can't close down the city that you're the mayor of the the mayor of Gallup raises the subject of testing. We said at the top of the broadcast tonight. The White House can now claim the very best testing and contact tracing in all of the land. What is Boston doing on making sure that? If you live in Southie Beacon Hill you can get a test on demand. Let me start by congratulating. The mayor commenting on doing some incredible work of keeping his residence. Safe I think a lot of have to make take drastic measures in. I commend him for it. In the city of Austin now doing is We have at twenty one locations around the city now for testing and our goal is to get to fifteen hundred tests per day. I will not there yet. But it's something that we want to be able to do. We have about ten thousand seven hundred plus cases of chronic virus in the in the city of Austin as of today now we have four hundred ninety. Six people lost their life. So we're dealing with quite a bit of a virus here in Boston Massachusetts with number three in the country for positive cases number three in the country's debts so we really really have to as we think about reopening in phasing. It in we really have to think about massive testing anybody testing in corona virus testing. And it's not just a one time test. It might be multiple tasks. So we're ramping. That up here in the city and doing the best we can. We're averaging about thirty percent of the people being tested at testing positive virus in the homeless population. We've tested almost eighteen. Hundred people with testing at about thirty three percent. Rate of positive. Show We we have some work to do still here in the city and we answer a lot more work before we can really move into the opening phase here. Well hopefully tonight. We have sparked a transcontinental mayor Ole Friendship Great. Thanks gentlemen for spending part of your time with us on a Friday night to the mayor of Boston. Marty Walsh to the mayor of Gallup New Mexico Louisiana greedy thank. You mayors both of you for coming on coming up seventy five years ago today. A different sort of enemy was defeated. Pulitzer Prize winning author. Jon meacham on the many historical parallels to what were going through as people today learned a lot from Richard Nixon. Don't fire people. I learned a lot. I study history and the firing of everybody should have in one way but I'm glad I didn't because look at the way it turned out. They're all a bunch of crooks and they got caught. But I learned a lot by watching Richard Nixon and that we thought called for a visit from presidential historian and Pulitzer Prize. Winning biographer. Jon. Meacham he is the host of a wonderful new podcast called hope through history of five part documentary series exploring other trying times in American history. How we as a nation dealt with those crises like the episode. I listened to last night on polio John the President says he studies history. That tell usually is something. New introduced into his life is something he immediately mentions and then mentioned several times again. What would you correct? Perhaps about his view of Richard. Nixon not sure Nixon is if you're an American president facing the an extraordinary problem. Nixon is probably not the most reassuring place to go given what happened in August. Two thousand nine hundred seventy four so I'd start there the other thing that just take him seriously briefly of the thing we remember about President. Nixon immensely complicated man that is almost universally acknowledged to be a great achievement was his going to China Opening the delegations seventy-one going in June of seventy two gave you hate Richard Nixon. You appreciate that. He did that when he did that. He was running against his entire political career. He was challenging the conservative base the Orange County base of the Republican Party the Cold War base that had put him in power and we remember President's most favorably. Not when they simply give their base what they want but when they challenge those assumptions and actually move the arc of history and so to me. It's fascinating that he was look at Nixon or talk to Roger Stone actually to tell you the truth. That's what I thought is that. He's talked to stone at some point this week. Because of Roger Stone's Actually has a Nixon Tattoo on his back. So if hardened we will have seen the Tel we would have seen the tell John. Because I'm the type to listen to your podcast with great interest. It won't surprise you to learn. I made a list today of. Let's call them the darkest months in American history in a centuries time I put down the December of forty one September of Oh one and the most recent entrant we have to say is April of Twenty Twenty. In one month's time we lost over sixty seven thousand souls and twenty million jobs but on the seventy fifth anniversary year task tonight. As is your your your charge in this podcast series. Remind us how we got through the other stuff blood sweat toil in tears as Churchill said he became prime minister in May of nineteen forty in other words. Those months that changed everything It wasn't easy. It's never been easy to look. Back is not to be nostalgic. It's not to look back and sort of see lull Thomas and the march of time as if everything were inevitable is to remind us that people in the past felt faced seemingly insuperable obstacles before and overcame them world. War Two is the defining drama in many ways of Western life certainly global life in so many ways but remember. We didn't get in the you wrote down the month. December nineteen forty one. Hitler invaded Poland on September. First Nineteen thirty nine. There were eighty percent of Americans didn't want to even sell weapons to Europe. Charles Lindbergh was the head of something that a phrase that has new residents America. First we got in the war after we were attacked by Japan. And after Hitler declared war on us is one of the great things to remember was Churchill. I think had it exactly right when he said that you can always count on the Americans do the right thing once. They've exhausted every other possibility. And we were dragged into that we did the right thing but we we did it and I think the lesson of the moment is we don't know the lesson yet but we do know this is that is going to require a kind of Marshall Plan of testing and rebuilding out of this Jon Meacham the new host of a quarantine. Essential podcast along with all of his other writing John. Our thanks as always coming up for us on a Friday night and unfortunate consequence of covert nineteen on a specialty industry with an enthusiastic consumer base. Come back A devastating trickle down effect of this corona virus for beer lovers think about it with most bars and restaurants still shuttered. Think of the beer industry their product goes bad. It's sitting in eggs in those bars and restaurants think about sports arenas it's a product that's been separated from its potential consumers and in many cases it has to now be destroyed. It's bad for the big brands. Yes it's especially bad for craft. Brewers we get our report on this tonight from NBC. News correspondent Morgan Chessy poured in stored in kegs all across the country. A GROWING DILEMMA FOR AMERICA'S BREW MASTERS. Though as a small craft for the coveted nineteen crisis. Hit US pretty hard brewery owner William bins shutdown gut and more than half his business overnight. You know one of the things about beer and especially Craft Beers that. It's a perishable product not unlike your loaf a loaf of bread that you'd buy by the grocery store. There is a shelf life on it with craft beer lasting one to three months. Almost all of the nation's seven thousand craft breweries are approaching their final poor wild acre brewery and Fort. Worth Pales pills now piling up without a soul to SIP. Shut off you're just kind of stuck what you have to do. You have more than eight way more and what hurts. Even worse is what comes next when you can't take beard market for a couple of months that leads to unfortunately the dumping of beer a sobering scene straight at nineteen twenties prohibition from Coast to coast countless pints poured out and dumped. It's unfortunate that we have to do it but we really have no choice And it sucks. Bars and restaurants. Don't reopen fast enough. Local brewers like wild acre could be in trouble. A nationwide survey shows up to half of all small breweries doors in the next three months in South Carolina. Aptly named liability brewing. Dumping Two hundred seventy kegs. Business doesn't pick up the loss beers or about seventy thousand dollars back in Texas a brand new problem. The city water supply can't take gallons gallons of beer down sanitary sewer water treatment. Plant full the lane with all their draft beer now headed down the drain. The only hope left lies in consumers grabbing a cold one. We have a bottling line in a canning line so you know at least we can get beer to grocery stores and we did get RPG loan thankfully in the second round so hopefully. That'll give us some runway here in the short time when we kind of figure out how this is all going to shake out until then no shortage of liquid courage here Morgan Chessy. Nbc News Dallas. More approached everywhere. You look this has affected our life coming up a final word about the significance of today. Just ask the people who were around to see it back then. We may allow a brief. I'll rejoicing good day. Victory in Europe Day last thing before we go tonight the generation that came before us walked around knowing this date as day people wept at the News newspaper. Front pages brought out there. Tallest typefaces and while the grinding hot brutal Pacific campaign dragged on we knew having beaten the Germans that the Japanese were next. Here's how it was covered for movie newsreel audiences in this country throughout the world throngs of people hail the end of the war in Europe. It is by Beers and more since Hitler marched into Poland years full of suffering and death and sacrifice now the war against Germany is one a great nation gives thanks for victory unredeemed thousands crowd into American churches to give thanks to God will president. Truman announced the official surrender. This is a solemn but glorious hour I wish that Franklin d Roosevelt had lived to see this day. Fdr had just died on April twelve. Vj Day the Japanese surrender which meant peace on earth at long last. That didn't arrive until August. Fifteenth and proof that politics has always been Kroll Winston. Churchill was voted out of office two months after leading Great Britain victory over the Nazis and saving his island nation. Finally and just for contrast. Look at this. This is our life now. Having Save the world and vanquish tyranny. This is Times Square on the seventy fifth anniversary of the day. Because we're fighting our own battle now and you have to wonder what would ike or Winston or Franklin or Harry make of US right now. That is our broadcast for this Friday night and for this week have a good weekend. Please be well be safe. We need your back here next week. On behalf of my colleagues at the networks have NBC News. Good night from our temporary field.