May 20: Tech-ed Off


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battle the technologies of the future figure of speech morehouse college student describes his tiers after a billionaire users commencement speech to wipe out the graduating class of student debt lights camera election australians are heading to the polls after the head of the government's right wing party in caught on film offering public contracts were political support live from new york it never mind remembering the late great gilda radner thirty years after she left us laughing as always we will hear an interview with her firm after a monkey business primatology just take a deep dive into the mating habits of male bonneau goes and finds it much much of their success can be attributed to pushy noble mom end if you'll like the way it looks very much a park official in iceland says she has been offered bribes from visiting fans who are desperate to trample the canyon where justin bieber shot one of his music videos news as it happens the sunday edition radio where where sorry believers but you will likely be asked to be leave here if you use your cell phone made by while way you almost certainly use google products that could soon change google just told bob way the world's second second largest smartphone manufacturer that it will restrict the company from using google android operating system that means a google apps like g mail youtuber maps may no longer be carried on future hallway phones google says it is complying playing with a decision made last week by president donald trump the president added while way to a list of companies that american firms cannot trade with unless they have eighty license emily taylor is an associate fellow at chatham house and specializes in international national security we reached her in london taylor first of all how big of a blow is this while way it's definitely back there's no doubt about it is that one of the weld so why provided a dominant position in many hats off to a market you just think about it complications like you choose my g mail which has so heavily used throughout the world all that said probably says the google they could while way technologies a nice boston handset provider in the world and just lost dammit hit two hundred million units it least stroll in markets that had growing like developing countries and among young people says i think all around that need but what does it matter i mean what happens if it now if if google i can't play with walk away and of course a lot of of of his devices already while we devices already have android there interconnected already out there so what now actually happens to people who have while way products or are planning to buy them so i think people have always times already at the set and reinsurance they will still be able to update the phone and and update you know make vital security patches chair essential in today's world so they cannot be planning bio away so not less clear there's elements of android cut from the team does not mean the end he provided throughout the world any forty commute that helped but it's being home fashion that is in the wall way now and which sued in very very popular but i guess you are saying well this is okay is not great but others are the language that the press is using is quite extraordinary i mean they a one article is describing is one of the most dramatic moments in androids history another one is that this is the equivalent of a kind of tech cold war with an iron curtain outs descended between east east and the west how far would you go that's definitely being an escalation intention and take kelly with the backdrop of the u s china trade negotiation that being a loss to the wall way and speak see with regard to five g the news to foster mobile broadband you know great it's a it's hard to know how they will 'em wind if they measured stay in place it's gonna hug not just usda's mrs but also consumer around the well those outside to see you at who just happened to own a wall they hand that and like using google product and when you have that kind of destruction i think this hind the unit or ridi could be directly impacted by the tension being played out in in other for a and what's the target here i mean this is the trump administration by putting while way on its so called entity list which ends up by banning the company a firm acquiring technology from usa firms without government approval and so this is why google has been caught up in this and google has now said it has to comply with that so but this one really the target or is it something else going on here while way is definitely being a lightning rod and we've seen that since december twelve th whiskey arrest in canada of some of the chief and i love the meg lunges on the detention of canadian national in china but i think they they overall contextual going on the teen c u s china trade negotiation go she ation but one thing u s just having come to tubs it's something it's not hot lift weights before which is not being the world meeting technology provides everything he ideas china he's saying technological champion like wall way heart mayfield threatening the united states at the time in this moment on so if you follow the money on this one who benefits from limiting while ways access to western markets when you have dramatic measures like see sometimes they could backfire and sometimes they could create outcomes but no dvd intended so definitely be ideas to po always development is set provided to each noma county but just say well case this provides a new opening full self track provided who have previously been shut out like google dominant and by being taught she unin numerous competitors so wall way will not truly ton to pot domestic providers such as audi balboa such as by doosan ten tend to have very capable in these markets so it'll be very interesting to see whether they have that the trump administration all hoping for but then what happens is far as because entered a google so intertwined in the world right so if you're getting this idea the iron curtain does it end up there there are east and west there are two worlds and they have very little communication between that's the risk so imagine a scenario way you have you'll while they had set and you have a choice of chinese providers and i do all of those functions like male messaging video streaming amend indeed way do you have a west and provide food and all of these a usa a giant tech choices that provide a very different experience which we haven't really seen before to this extent now of course in every country the white people easy internet net will be different but actually google and facebook the number one and number two website in in most of the world except way in countries like china weather has been historically protectionist policies the to be cleared the firm those market okay so it might just change the shape of things crew create create friction in the single global network which is being such an enormous benefit the communication access the knowledge but it's the same internet whether you all in single pool or canada will be ninety king and anywhere in the world be an enormous unprecedented before maybe this is something that listing they are coming to an end all right well they missed heather thank you thank you very much emily taylor and associate fellow at the chatham house and the editor of cyber policy journal we reach ms taylor in london and we do have more more on this story on our website cbc dot ca slash h commencement speech is they could be hit or miss can't they they often contain cliches platitudes bad jokes they have a tendency to run on a bit however yesterday grabs at morehouse college were treated to in a specially memorable commencement speech delivered by tech investor robert half on behalf of the eight generations of my family who have been in this country were gonna put a little fuel and your bus i've got their alumni over there and this is a challenge to you alone this is my clients twenty nineteen in my family is making a grant to eliminate their student loan yes the billionaire promised to pay collective student loans of morehouse college is graduating class and estimated cost more than forty million dollars among the graduates more houses aaron mitchum a twenty two year old finance major we reach mr mitchum in atlanta georgia okay and see what's your opinion do you think that is possibly the best commencement speech you've ever heard oh most definitely it's funny because we asked that obama couple of years so i feel like dow's up there with obama's not it probably top now what he had to say we just played that did it do think can immediately well it's so funny 'cause i sat there for a moment like wait what happened a what's going on in here's a start rolling my eyes and i'm just like you're paying off my loans i'm debt free oh my goodness i'm debt free i literally stood up in my chair an i just thank god it was the most amazing moment of my life i'm feeling them goosebumps myself as you say that so i'm reaction among other people what was it like so a lot of other brothers had a lot of student loan debt in people were hiring people were calling their parents in the middle graduation my parents based on me saying well they serious and we're all just thought we all thought that he was he was playing tricks on us end then we got we got news on her phone that it was true and we're like oh my goodness he is serious i understand that even the university did know he's gonna do that right right and it's it's it's it's funny because when i when i say thank you a million times anna kept walking over i walked one of my professors and she helped me they're like you're debt free congratulations like look what god has done for you congrats in that that hit hard for me she knew my situation what's going on how much debt how you can go where you carry 'em close a two hundred thousand dollars for how many years in in college 'em out for years in college i got out and for years unbelievable two hundred thousand dollars that how much of that was you tuition so it's actually pretty interesting if you break it down to seventy five percent of that was my tuition and in a quarter of that was housing 'em and then i took out the full entire amount freshman year and also a first time w safer housing an a tuition and it's interesting 'cause i'm literally after they graduate she told me hey that that sallie mae low you took out has almost doubled so i was like wow did you family help you get those loans yes so i feel is thicker my sister my brotherinlaw my mom my dad my grandmother in my on all coastline alone throughout the entire time by a mind matriculating drought morehouse and now you're paying it off are are credit score or arise and it's amazing anderson you're grandma's us out that oh yeah it has my grandma got covered a summer school as well even though i took out of georgia thousand hours off limits are for the past couple of years i mean i helped a little bit but also as many people know they interest rates so high end is a class compound interest works is really meant to keep you and you're alone so even with me stay with her reminders that more out i still had twenty thousand dollars that taken out you know when you compare the two canada i mean we could canadians students are i i know lots of people graduating and they are just shocked by how much that they're carrying nothing like that i mean tuition in canada averages around four thousand year averaging just looking at the minimum you'd get his ten thousand year and tuition it supports in private colleges like yours is thirty five thousand dollars a year front undergraduate i mean how did anybody getting an education it states that that's exactly especially because one thing for us as they use something that people don't realize that it's it's hard it's really really difficult 'cause you're going off the meeting with great company great graduate schools and you have this huge burden of alone in debt an it's like nobody it's like nobody could really help what's in milton what's hpc you historically black college and university and also more houses also private colleges and yes yes exactly if you're at a private you at college i why do you think that this man robert smith is billionaire jones you're school 'em so i feel like he thought he saw in us what he saw him so growing got a lot of are stories are are kind of similar in the sense of where the smart black kids on the school bus like he talked by the amendment speech 'em were smart everybody loved display we acted but when it came time to pay for college go to school you know it was it was hard it was rough because are parents didn't have that that five twenty nine plan you see a lot you're not already a friends have or money saved up because you know you're parents were working long hours and just make ends meet so his story was similar to a lot of are so he he also in a seesaw greatness he thought he saw it with moral saunas this whole time but he also is a challenge do doesn't he i mean he says that that that you've been chosen fear classmates to pay it forward what did he want you to do really surely i feel like is from two different aspects of things so from a financial aspect now the we have no loan paying for instance of financially that now we gonna start helping out people who are class right now the people were coming up the next generation of morehouse men and then from more ethically standpoint he's he's more so talk speaking of hey what are you gonna do out here to change the world and give back year college in a non financial are you gonna come back and speak are you gonna come back and mentor somebody are you gonna help me get through more how are you gonna be there for them when they have some type of mental mental health issue not one black man holding another department in fact he said in the commencement speech because we are enough to take care of our own community right exactly we could sustain are sells it just that we just need a little help and that's where he did eat a whole generation of black men and turned it around you know one thing about this though is that it's such a generous gift from a wealthy cnn but the message that many are giving politically is that this how much debt american students carry so much debt that you can't expect philanthropy or patrons to pay for it to be government i mean there's you have forty forty four million students who were carrying a one and a half trillion dollars in student debt in your country and that may be someplace where the government to step in and make this easier for you what do you say that i definitely think the government should definitely step up you have too many people have student loans and what's gonna happen it is gonna be kind of like two thousand seven two thousand eight is gonna come back and bite us in nobody really recognizing that somebody has to step up and do something but we could see if it's an investment is a man that young people can do better get better jobs they could also afford to be buying houses and studying families and starting businesses and everything exactly yes so i know a lot of guys who were still in apartment up to forty and fifty years old they're like why would i why would i got house i can't afford a house i can't afford to go out so really having and that right there is just boosting economy if you take care of college because you need some type of education to make america especially as a black man and when he gonna do what's this education we're gonna do you have a job is ending lined up so right now i'm actually currently with a couple of financial institution would like to work in the financial built as you see i i'm pretty good at doing analysis and selling yourself it's only about size right hey i have reservations let me now right aaron i wish you all the best in the end congratulations thank you thank you so much with interview by by aaron mitchum is a twenty nineteen graduate from morehouse college one of four hundred grabs who will see their student debt covered by philanthropists robert smith we reach mr mitchum in atlanta algae our hulu ferrari is eight picturesque canyon in ice one but it has become so popular that officials have been forced to closed to visitors some are blaming popstar justin bieber for that explosion in interest in the music video for his song i'll i'll show you where he could be seen frolicking about the kenyan hunt johan's daughter is a ranger with environment agency of iceland was tasked with turning visitors away we reached her in boondoggle dollar iceland hannah i have now joined millions of people who have watched this justin bieber video and have to say they the video the pictures are quite stunning what is it about this canyon if you could describe how beautiful it is what would you say it's quite fascinating canyon it's just part of the vet for the last hundred thousand years and it's pretty amazing idea it's a tough kenyan with some more river run and get after it and must cover cliff cliff it's at you and in the end of it the sophomore what the full well we we see indy they video the justin be remakes he is walking along those very narrow cliff he's sitting on the edge of them he's rolling through the modest he is skateboarding he is swimming you jumping leaping over fences it looked like there barriers where you're supposed across so how much of the area has you covered by the end of this picture he only covered some the beginning of the kenyan in his deal and then he went down to the table and when you see in the river but yeah it's it's not good for the most to walk in it because it's very sensitive and if you walk on a diet and takes hundreds of years to hail back also the case that it's a actually eight fifty on your it's whether you stories so it's pretty dangerous go up also since the video has come out what effect as it has on people visiting not canyon some people that come here come close to him but they're all kinds of reason that people have with the kenyan and unfortunately some people just wants to take the same pictures of themselves as he did they think that that's not very good because now we don't have anymore or vegetation ominous clift it's just ruined but people do a lot of stupid things for the perfect instagram photo you've had actually closed to visitors this point is not right it is closed has been closed this winter due to falling conditions the weather conditions for this winter has been freaking bet that's been raining and freezing second date and then the choice get sweaty muddy and all kinds of things and heightened past went all in about an people or visit those didn't want to get started at shoes so they stopped into walk outside of that and then they meet them at rv i got bigger and bigger and bigger and then we had to close the deal up again and dry up so you work at it as a ranger that canyon people are determined it coming from all over the world to sit on the cliff the justin bieber's han so what did they say to you when they get there and you tell them they can't most people are just fifty understanding that it's one on one person that everything to get to it and that includes apparently offering you things is that right yeah i have been saying all kinds of things like what the the yeah i have been offered all kinds of food and also that the best offer was probably a trip to buy release it get like an all expense paid trip to do by say if you let them in never yeah and i'm presuming you didn't take it no i didn't say anything tempted you is it been anything where you thought maybe i maybe i'll i'll i'll make an exception here no i would just get more and more stopper when people often you can't break you know but now and of course what you're doing this you protecting this place and and it sounds like it's become so much more popular since the justin bieber song but in general it people more and more people are going to iceland now aren't they yeah they are just for the past ten years it has been a big increase in florida by the year two thousand and ten we had just a little bit less than five hundred thousand wishes but two thousand fifteen when justin bieber came here we had a one point three million there's i think there's some very popular place to go and it happened weight fast and many sensitive places has been bad out of that because they just your just not ready for all all this trouble so sure i it is really beautiful place and a my envy you that you can spend time up there and i hope the damage listen to extensive no it wouldn't be hopefully we create preparing there on the next all right thanks speaking with is an djelic by hunter johan's dot arranger with environment agency of iceland we return budo don north of the new book a huge political scandal unfolded in austria this weekend triggering protest yes those protesters are singing about it'd be saw the spanish island is known for its wild parties and that is where the leader of the country's far right party who became part of governing coalition and it was filmed during a sting operation he was attempting to make a deal with a woman he believes connected to a powerful russian she was not the tape made it into the hands of german reporters and now that politician hines christian staka has resigned prompting snap election rick no lack has been covering this kind of the washington post we reached him in berlin making just again guinea tell us who the players in this little video with key player really is hines christiane casca at that point when it was recorded in twenty seventeen not yet vice chancellor of austria but the men who later became one of the most important van in austria and and he's seen in the video having having a seven hour boozy conversation with a woman he believed to be the niece of the russian oligarchs family he was offering a state contracts if she did a political donations to his party or were invested into media outlets in the country okay so that the little political drama and this is in the end the spanish island a known for why get known for wild parties yeah absolutely it's a holiday island in the mediterranean a very popular among party tourists and apparently of far right politician fucking like a high school i understand you're gonna find politicians tell us who hines just in slack is and what party he's he is would be austrian freedom party that is he a far right party that goes back quite a long time to pretty much the time right after world war two it's a party that was founded by x s s nazi officer so really a party that in its core identity very long had a very far right ideology it has gone up and down over the last few decades in terms of how extreme it was but over the last ten years of something so since two thousand and five and has become more radical again under the leadership of hines christiane strong okay become more radical but also become more powerful what position did he play in the government he was de vice chancellor history of one of the most important jobs in the government end what critics really viewed as perhaps even more concerning was that the far right didn't just have the vice chancellor in office but also she posts including be defense ministry oversight or be interior ministry where one of his allies kick who took over in that was very much seen in a very critical way by by a lot of servers in austria but also abroad so they wrap this resort hines christian stock i is having a conversation he thinks the woman is the niece of a russian oligarch who was she really well we don't really know who that woman was that is one of the secrets one of the mysteries of this video still we also don't know why it was recorded what the motivation behind it was and wide who's only released now about two years later they're clearly days ahead of european elections that will shape to some extent the future this continent and of course we're what a fun ride is under extreme scrutiny as well and so the deal was what he was trying to strike how how crucial is that what would that have done had he been able to have this deal that he thought he was making out with the niece of a russian oligarch well they were specifically talking about her acquiring stakes in the largest newspaper of the country which which prides itself where essentially being impartial end and other parties in the country have tried to to acquire such steaks or at least i have more influence on it but has failed so he he was very determined to make that deal happen essentially to have her choir stakes in the newspaper and then be able to shape the papers editorial line into line with the far right parties ideology or a policy stances okay so now they deem now former vice chancellor this just as that had some things to say what has he said about this scandal well he has apologized to his family to other people he might have church in that video one of the striking things is that he in fact mocked the men who would soon become his boss be current chancellor said busty on cortes who is the head of be a conservative party in in austria and it's a clear bears meant for him but he's been trying to say that he hasn't broken any laws nothing about it was illegal in any way but that is something his opponents would question and in fact it's it's quite likely that there will be an investigation that there will be probes into that evening into that video what does this say about the coalition though that the chancellor sebastian courts had with mr stock what does that say about where politics was when they made this coalition i think that's a really interesting question on the bus young courts do you conservative austrian chancellor with always he faced a lot of criticism for forming a coalition with the far right back in twenty seventeen and especially for handing them crucial ministries but he also was praised by some for trying to team default right essentially showing but they're not up for the task in this story will continue we don't really know yet how it's gonna play out if it actually is going to doesn't change the far right in austria war if it's going to emboldened by believe rallying their core supporters behind conspiracy theories about how that video came out the memo the coalition has fallen apart and i missed a stock is not only a member of the of his party to be facing consequences but i'm wondering what this does as we enter european union elections were in them where a new number of far right parties are expected to perform very strongly will have any impact on their fortunes i think the interesting question jim give that up about four hundred million europeans are heading to the polls were are eligible to head to the polls next week will be how is this going to play out abroad in in other member states end certainly this does come adds it's a difficult time for the far right 'cause they have been trying to portray themselves as as a force across european for study is able to participate in government seriously take part in government in this scandal shows that might not be the two all right i guess is one of those points well we will be watching but rick i appreciate you bringing us up to date thank you thanks so much right by route is a reporter for the washington post we reached him in berlin of all the talent to have stepped out onto the saturday night live stage these names of their original cast members standout chevy chase baluchi ackroyd missing from that list is gilda radner in the eighties sketch comedy was a macho male dominated made it sport and by most accounts the culture at snl is no better that did not phase is radnor the comedian was loved by her male colleagues as much as she was by her fans sheila's versus tile whether she was doing a parody of celebrities you wearing the media or poking fun at her own neuroses is riding her could pivot between character's instead of pasted few could match and in doing so she pave the way for other comedians like elaine and seinfeld or lose lemon and thirty rock here is gilda radner playing one of her recurring characters i'm only pella hard of hearing commentator who frequently interrupted weekend update host chevy chase who she called cheddar cheese oh how much will tell you that my pillow i'm on the air right now could you just sending editorial apply call back later i know too much about hey they had been done i don't blame those little so tell us that what's croatian five perations hijacked plane not crustaceans gration there another form of shellfish misled by jason gilda radner honor as emily heller on saturday night live back in nineteen seventy six gilda radner died thirty years ago today issues forty two years old and in nineteen seventy seven former as it happens hosts barbara from spoke to gilda radner about what life was like an snl and where those characters came from the firm archives here is that conversation with alan maitland's introduction live from new york city it's saturday night live yes live outrageous insane the end hip saturday night is the first new variety show designed for the frozen dinner generation the show takes on topics the rest of television still holds dear nothing is too sacred to escape it satirical review with his loyal and dedicated viewing audience providing smashed ratings even stuffy nbc bureaucrats have to allow canadian producer lorne michaels the leeway to create his own version of weekly saturday night panic since top banana chevy chase stripped onto other things gilda radner has taken over the spotlight amongst they not yet ready for primetime players she's the funny lady who caricature is barbara walters by by why was she calls her and capably takes on the likes of jackie o and miss lillian having lived in toronto for seven years guilt ultimate all her future cohorts the now form the canadian coalition that goes into creating saturday night each week live from new york as it happens is proud to percent gilda radner yes it's nice to meet you knowing we were gonna talk to you we've been looking for all year old fans and friends here to get the low down in the dirt on you you see and they all are crazy about you and they've thrown everything right everything drinking bourbon but in the park in the middle of the night it's just gonna walk to the park valerie brownfield illiterate across rounds in park for me and i think i'd have a drink and i walked through there and i see people in the park and it's like a cocktail party i think at this point people are watching saturday night live because of you really yeah well i dunno i don't think so they're still waiting maybe for some of your care just a comeback but you seem to be the top banana well i don't i don't believe that you don't know i don't think so i think it's like 'em isn't incredible family here you know and it stayed the support and be energy that's created by the comfort in that family you know i'm just precocious i guess on the precautions kid do they set you up did they create barbara while offer you is that you're own creation of the family the first time i did that was at the suggestion of the guys that i worked within the lampoon show that i did here in new york off broadway we were having one of are seeing with the press conference and they have a woman could you do you know and someone suggested barbara walters so i watched her i'm not for women only 'cause it was back then you know and i did her first band and then when she as she became a very public figure since then so it just worked in my ban it that way how dare she like barbara well what am i dunno did never hear from her no not personally i met her once at a at a party she said command command tell me what you do how do you do it that i showed her kind of laugh to his real nice real on did you create emily to yeah you're so so someone says to you can you do something silly can you create a character yourselves so well i think we spent a lotta time appear in the first time sometimes things just come up from sitting around and being silly you know i didn't think when i came to work here that i did any character to be honest with you and then a but they came out of somewhere i fame but the the magic of the night is when you and jane curtain are working against each other yeah she's sitting right across from me now really well that i turn off the show after that really is nothing left after that i know i hope we get to do that again emily jane i gather that that people think emily's been overexposed but i'm not sick of it well she might surprise you oh good i still got the glasses anyway but there's a special kind of tension between the two of you playing against each other that's very unusual 'cause up till now ridi women have played against each other very well from andy i think it's based on and friendship you know like oh my god you're making it sound like an encounter syrupy down there no no i know i'm making a town where but the but it's but it it it is true you know something about the show comes out of all the agony and the un everything of of all of us 'em working together you know why do you were gang how bad is it like in any family there's agonies and and long hours and you know what i mean i sure do you have to do other nice when it does go wrong but there's something right about that too but it's so awful it's wonderful sure and then we also see like something's will peak and dress rehearsal and on the live show they never find that same space but but there's at least it's it's honest you know this is the best of television you know the best possible job 'em there is in terms of being able to be involved on all levels in the writing and creating you know so who knows you know hopefully if i don't go on doing the shark i'm going to do something that says invigorating as exciting would would it be television again if you have you've got something obviously i don't know you sound like emily i dunno i don't know how i feel about his old is emily today why what's wrong nothing just this tired right in the middle like today it's today is the camera blocking day you know and i would tap dance i'm tired did you ever think in detroit you'd be a tap dancer a national world television no never ever you thought you were just gonna be a chubby kid the rest of your life i thought i would just be a dancer in front of my house on my lawn forever in my backyard do you realize we think of you as canadian isn't that awful russo chauvinist will claim anything go right ahead because claim your home it is i lived there for seven years and you don't mind if we claim you know not at all i've always been connected there my dad has had his business and windsor an dumb because i lived in detroit right across and it always the most natural thing that's when i became a land of emigrants bear don't tell immigration we're very grateful to you thank interrupt john attire day no that's alright i wish i could tap on the radio will do one little voice instead well i just wanted to say hello everyone in canada and hope they have a wonderful holiday season that's enough okay is that live from new york who just did live from new york it okay goodbye every okay bye bye thank you barbara from in conversation with gilda radner in nineteen seventy seven the league comedian an original saturday night live cast member died thirty years ago today at age forty two she died of ovarian cancer and her friends established gilda's club in her memory offer support to those dealing with cancer when it comes to robots new thing dissipate that loving feeling quite likely arrival of your mom although while true for you and me it seems that it isn't necessarily the case where some of are primate cousins just ask the scientists who have been studying bonneau bose in congo tanzania you you gotta end ivory coast their focus is on the powerful females who often dominant group of these super active textual apes and also on the rule these mothers play in there's some sexual relationships martin's back of the mock plonk institute in germany describes the role politely saying quote the mothers tend to be eighty social pass support for their son's what mr sort of back means that bano about mothers and make it their business to get up in the business of their own oboe boys love lived mothers drag reluctance sons to what are called huddle of fertile females mom's then wait until junior ginned up the courage to engage one of the females in an intimate acquaintance and then thanks mom but obama others will start charging at other nearby mailed to make sure they're boy is not interrupted before he has completed his reproductive chores which is of course westminster sort of back in his colleagues say that this is all about their reports in the latest edition of the journal current biology suggests that all this motherly meddling manages the boost reproductive successes of their sons and us gives a leg up the passing on the mother is own genetic material for generations to come you've been listening to be as it happens podcast are show can be heard monday through friday on cbc radio one sirius xm listen to the whole show on the web just go to cbc

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