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Although Ben lines playing a big part in the Senate, Bob because his friend gave Polsky who set him up with his wife at the canned film festival that Strobe revealed other documentaries called in search of greatness, Gabe is the director Ben is executive producer go to insert your greatness dot com to find out where you can find the documentary, which is one of the best. Of the year, an excellent films agape is going to join us and talk all about that. No lines din. Do we have an every man, Dan Stanic? Yes, we do. Excellent. And Rick pass or do we have an indefens- of? No. But I do have a review. Excellent. As always go to itunes and give us some love Eric movies at a former police, please rank them in five stars and leave a review I checked a recent review stinging rebuke of Rick Passmore's role on the podcast. But that's all right. Because you know, what when Ricky asked for a raise at some point go, listen, the razor is making zero money. I'm gonna go pass more. 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I mean, I'm going to watch the myself, and then burn them in ever watched them again. But I have to go out to the movies, of course. And it's so good to see a movie in a theater, if you get that opportunity, especially when it's a small independent film, which may not get an all love or maybe because the Oscar consideration it will. And I'm talking about can you ever forgive me? That's a new film from Melissa McCarthy stars and Richard E grant who is seen stealing as her barfly. The story is this. It's based on the true story of Lee, Israel, who was a writer of some promise you had a couple of successful novels, but then wasn't able to publish anymore biographies, and what she was focused on. She couldn't get anybody. Interested. In and her agent had said to her listen your whole like let's make this clear. You're not a friendly person on a nice person. So even if you have a book, that's good or worthy. No one's interested in it. Either have to have an incredible subject, but you don't have or have to be a nice person, which you are not. So you can complain about John Grisham getting all these fees. But this is the way it's going to go. So she rather stumbles upon this idea, and the movie sets it up beautifully that she's one of these caustic cat women. You know what? I mean. This is not fun loving Melissa McCarthy. This is not warm and generous you normally see she is a crank who lives with her cat and his miserable. And one day. We'll do some research. She comes upon old letter from a famous author and realizes she hatches this plan of what if I forged letters from long dead authors, and then sold them for a price to memorabilia. So soon enough, and this is actually an example what a good writer. She is because she has to emulate these long dead writers by reading one of their notes or novels and trying to imagine what they would right. In the letter. But the plan goes while she sells it to one. Memorabilia collector gets hundreds of dollars cases, another one. And as so often happens whenever you're involved in any sort of crime. A once you get that once let's keep getting away with it. And so then, of course, the story knows you're eventually going to be win over your head, and you're gonna get caught, but the real strength the movie is McCarthy's performance because listen prior to this the best thing she's ever done was crapping in the sink in bridesmaids. And since then she's done a lot of movies where I think just kind of repetitive of her persona being big and bombastic, and now this is a real character while not giving up the humor because even though this is a drama and the headlines going to be Melissa McCarthy's going straight so to speak in terms of dramatic theater. But the characters still has humor to it. And because she's caustic as I said, she's got a real sarcastic bite in her line readings which I think is a comedian. She's able to deliver. And this isn't the first example of a comedic actor showing they can be dramatic actress Steve Corrales done Jim Carey's done it and so on and so forth. So as she's developing your plan. Meets up with her old friend, Richard E grant who if you're wondering who he is. He's only as actors you've seen these movies all the time. He was in Bram Stoker's Dracula. He was great in score says he's age of innocent platelet, Larry Leifer. It's he was an Elliot's story. I loved him with Steve Martin a real stretch of the early ninety s and he's one of those guys I said always pops up, but he's never had a role as big as this. And it was so good to see the movie because it's a real a showcase ninety for Melissa McCarthy. But also, Richard E grant and the first thing he comes in like, bam. You already got it. You know, he's he's this guy. Who's just looking to get after it. And the here of Melissa McCarthy is he said he becomes her barfly. Her confidante. He's the only one who knows about the scheme. He starts helping her with this game. And his performance is a real joy. And I'm really happy that it looks like she's not only gonna get nominee for best actress. But he is a really good chance at best supporting actor nomination. It's nice. When these actors have been acting for thirty years, they finally get nominated for the first time. So the strength of the movie is the performances the characters these if you wanted to the true story, I'm sure you can Google e Israel and find out what happened to her Tiber wrote a great review in the Boston Globe. He spoke of how New York now. It's so gentrified, and then you have to remember a time where people are moving out of Brooklyn, rather moving to Brooklyn. And this movie is a good reminder of nineteen Ninety-one me. It's because it's the return of that great movie archetype, the mean nasty New Yorker we haven't seen them in a while. Appears they don't exist anymore McCarthy really nails that Israel so check. Okay. Never forgive me. I'm giving it three and a half Maple Leafs. Mike Golic junior of all people after I saw the review also tweet the he really loved the movie as well. It's definitely up. Dan stands. Exactly. Yeah. Real quick on Melissa McCarthy, and forgive me, if I've asked you this before but had a little debate with some cousins and friends months ago. You know, how there's like a lesbian lists whatever. Celebrities. Where would you say Melissa McCarthy is I think she's A-List because she can open a movie her movies make millions and millions of dollars. If you give her a script to, you know, high concept comedy, boom, I said like be plus, but okay, I thought I think she's just if you just looked at sheerly the track record of remove all, right? Even when they stink. They do make a ton of money. I she has to try to dramatic chops before Saint Vincent as movie I liked a lot with Bill Murray. People keep saying it's the first time ever seen or dramatic way. Well, she actually did it before at Saint Vincent's a really good movie. But this is the first time as a lead role a secret for second way to recommend is what they had sounds familiar while Robert Forster's in it. He spoke about onset of foul. Hopefully, you can check out the interview having listened to it. But the movie is about a family dealing with Blythe Danner. She's the mother suffering from Alzheimer's, Robert Forster is the long suffering husband and Michael, Shannon. Hilary swank play the siblings were trying to figure out what the best recourse is for mom. So the story starts out with mom. Having an issue. She keeps leaving the house disappearing. So Michael Shannon plays the Duda. Full son. He's there in Chicago calling. Hilary swank the daughter to say going to come up here. I need help. We're going to think what to do. So Shannon, say we're going to confront Robert Forster put her in a home. Of course forced to the husband does not want to do that. All he has in his life is his wife. He can look after even though she's disappearing and clearly her condition is deteriorating. But he is very staunch and that he wants to be the one take care of her and the Hilary swank has caught in the middle. You've seen stories like this before in terms of Alzheimer's and family strife. But I thought it was particularly well done. The first two thirds is a great scene between Hilary swank, Michael Shannon, in which they're fighting the way siblings must do. And it's never an easy situation as to figure out what to do with parents. And even though it's a heavy watch. There were some moments of levity the along the way, even my my moment of disappointment those that the final third of the movie isn't as strong as the first two-thirds the first two thirds feel like a four maple leaf movie while those all classic kitchen sink dramas great cash Academy Award winning a Hilary swank Academy Award nominee, Michael, Shannon. I can't EMMY award nominee Robert Forster, Blythe Danner. Like, you've got this great actors really tearing their teeth in a really good script, which is Cobra. Written by Nicole hall of center, who's your really good writer and director. She did a movie I love with James Gandolfini and Julia Louis Dreyfuss called enough set. But the final third movie ends up letting excuse me, Elizabeth chomp co wrote the script I'm thinking about another film. But what ends up happening is that the story kind of. I don't want say it goes paint by numbers. But it actually it's the rare film that needed a little more length. You know, it's a it's a ninety three minute movie. It's the rim. We that probably should have been about two hours because the first third sets up what to do with mom, what to do with mom what to do with mom fighting between dad funding between son fighting between son and daughter that eventually the final third kind of ties up loose ends. I think in a movie like this. If you're going to tie up the nuts, which you probably have to have some resolution. I would have liked more time given before we got to that point. So it's the rarely that I think should be a little bit longer. However, I do recommend it primarily for the performances of why Michael, Shannon. Not nearly as psychotic is normally at this time playing more every man guy. I like, I said a dutiful son. But it's a good movie. I'm giving it three Maple Leafs router Forster's fantastic. I mean, God I. I just got him on the podcast because he was available and I wanna talk with Jackie Brown. But he was right. I know he was very price for the of the film. But he was right. What they has we worth watching. So hopefully, you can go check it out last week before we get to our interviews of gay Polsky a twin Bill here for you. If you will Orson Welles when the great filmmakers of all time, a new movie on Netflix and a new documentary on Netflix, which when you want I want the movie you want the documentary, go moving movies a disappointment. It's so misshapen in so unfocused so all over the place. I can't properly recommend it. Although Ryan Johnson the director. I saw just tweeted because it's one of the best movies. It's an absolute masterpiece. And you know, he directed on the Star Wars movies, and he was this should be seen for years to come. And I'm like, listen, maybe that's the opinion of director because they're so in love with Orson Welles, and there's moments of Wells' bravura, certainly and John Huston plays. The lead speaker Robert Forster, the if you listen to the Robert Forster interview here in Sinophile, he doesn't John Houston impression. Then go watch the other side of the wind because John Huston plays the lead role. So I had even more enjoyment from the film because. Picturing Robert Forster doing an impression of him and the best line the movies and John Huston. You the end says you can kiss my sweet ass, but the movie as I said a so misshapen because it's two stories. So the one stories about a director in the last Dave is life is he playing Orson Welles. Maybe that's John Huston, and he's got Peter bogdonovich there who's playing a young director who doesn't Prussians, and there's a female film critic is probably based on Pauline kale, and they're all Custer riding him and his final day of shooting and the other half the movie is the movie he's making which as the documentary makes clear is like an imitation or a parody of those European art house dramas that were so in vogue in that era like Antonioni film. And so the problem is that the stuff of the Houston and Bogdanovich and the Pauline kale s characters fine. Because as I said, it's it's watchable, and it's interesting, but then he cuts it up with seems to the movie, and the movie makes no sense. And I understand that's the point is that this director is making a movie, which is so ridiculous. And so trying hard to court that art house audience, but as a as a viewer, you just go this is this is just too all over the place. Like Rick pass for may take something from it. I think Ricky might enjoy it because it's on Netflix, and why not give it to watch. But the documentary is outstanding. It's one of my favorite movies of the year in my favorite talks. The it's so good and anybody who knows me knows how much I love documentaries are stories about the creative process. That's where the Larry Sandra Garry, shandling dachshunds me. I enjoyed so much injured apple, but this is about Orson Welles in his life, and particularly this film. And it's got one of the great titles of the year. The love me when I'm dead, which Peterberg Donald said Orson Welles said another actress has no he never said that just sounds like a good line to say, I like the fact Morgan Neville did a documentary and says, well, we're making a tunnel the movie, which I also want Dan stands it to say at my funeral when I get killed by a bus in a year. They'll love me when I'm dead. That was verse believe he said it every day of his life. He would say on the pocket. The love me when I'm dead shrew was the head of my tub, but Wells' stories amazing for those that don't know. Of course, he you know, he did citizen. Kane. He was twenty five years old. It's the Grassley of all time. But to think as a person wherever you are in life, whenever your occupation is if you peak at twenty five with the rest of your life must be when you're chasing. It's always like a drug actor chasing that high that you can never actually get again, if no chance of ever getting there and the studio the studios studios plural in Hollywood punished him for it. Because the fact he had a certain amount of chutzpah to them in a certain amount of arrogance to him. He was going to do things the way nobody else did. Okay. I'll get punished then magnificent Amerson, which is an excellent of family drama, very influential, Wes Anderson loves it, Royal Tenenbaums. He says is in very much impart based on his love for the magnificent, amber Sens, the studio re cut it because they did like wells as version of it and they massacre the movie ended up being his appointment years later wells was able to re cut it and that versions the one most people can see now. And it's a great film touch of evil is a great B-movie wells plays the villain it at the the opening shot. When I was at Ryerson, Billy nobles might great teacher. He was said something about great tracking shots and right away. Goodfellas obviously the COPA shot. He's a who. Here has seen touch of evil. And I'm like, oh, yeah. He's the first the first shot touch of evil's amazing, if you'll forgive the fact Charlton Heston is playing a Mexican in the way, which is a bit of a reach. But. Wells as the villain is amazing. Just as this corpulent sweaty sheriff is so or the movie, and the directing is awesome. So on the basis of those three movies wells is great. There's other moves f for fake and criterium released. In addition of that, they say they love there's other films of his that. Now, you know, if you look at it, I think over time people enjoy them more. But those are the ones that are major ones. So other side of the winds the movie he's trying to make in the late sixties? But he couldn't get any money. It's crazy. This guy is one of the great filmmakers of all time. He can't get mine to make this movie. He's got John Huston story, and you see clips from talking to reporters saying John Huston. It says if heaven exists I should definitely get admittance into the pearly gates because I gave John Huston the best role of his life. And this new movie called the other side of the wind, and they're like Orson is I could've played the role because it's based on a director. I could have done it. But I'm giving it to John as a gift to show. How magnanimous I am. And like, do you think this is the best meal you've ever made? He's no my next move is gonna be the next the best ever bake hit a funny guy good sense of humor and the documentary shows not only him filming. Way. But also talking about the reporters and agonizing over it and Peterberg Donna vici became a good friend of his who in his own right wasn't acclaimed director early in his career. But never matched that his best work is Elliott on the sopranos, but he never was able to match his work of those early movies and he directed, and he ends up becoming a good confidante of wells. And so again, if you have interest in movies are about the creative process if you have any interest in Orson Welles, you should definitely check out. The love me when I'm dead the documentary currently available on Netflix, along with the film the other side of the wind, and it's not solely about the making of it. There are certain sections of it. But there's a good job explaining Orson Welles is life may very torture family left. I didn't realize what hap- with his parents since the very interesting watch. I'm giving that for me beliefs. I'll give on the other side of the win to Maple Leafs. Just because it is interesting at times. But I don't think it's nearly the epic. We're all hoping for I lasted the Grinch peeling. Peter Travers is pretty much nailed it. I mean, it's fine. I'll give it to April Leafs. Good time waster contended kitchen app with the kids colorful, animation Benedict Cumberbatch fine FIS nine. Exactly Jim Carey, if you know, the story of the grant, you know, exactly what happens, and that's about it gave Polski now in search of greatness, check it out. In search of greatness dot com is where you can find where the best documentaries of the year. Find out where it's playing there you oddly enough it's titled in search of greatness, and it comes from documentary filmmaker Gabe Polsky conifer. Join us right now. It's in a found gave thank you so much for the time today. Yes. Think what I know first and foremost my boy cabbie the star. Because last Friday in Toronto, I'm filling in for Stephen a Smith, and Ben lines is frantic his we need to host in Toronto. I said my guide cabbies the best. It was going to go the documents screening anyways. And then he went and sought along with DJ Bennett. I hope it was a great crowd there in Toronto. He told me Mark Shapiro. Is there the Blue Jays vice-president, he talked a lot of analytics and creativity. Just tell me about that night back in my hometown. I. Yeah. It was cool. It was cool. You know, obviously, I was really excited to bring it to Toronto because you know, Gretzky, and, you know, just the whole country, and you know, it was it was great. And you know, the fact that surprise came was was interesting. I didn't know that he was in the crowd until you're until cabbie pointed it out, but he was he was very intrigued who's kind of scratching his head afterwards. And you know, it seemed like he was in some kind of deep saw. But yeah, he started talking about how. You know, that you know, basically superstars are kind of self evident. And you know, you don't really use data. There's it's you know, you can't really analyze that superstars. Right. But then he sort of talking about how the guys below that that, you know, you kinda need this data. He was saying to to kind of because the the difference is so small, and and you know, that you kind of have to look to the data to understand who's gonna kinda survive in the league. Basically, that's what he was saying. That's interesting. That would be his take on it because you're right. What part of it? And what's great about the documentaries that you picked guys in Wayne Gretzky, and Jerry Rice and Palay their the focus of the documentary of guys who do not look like superstar athletes at first glance. And what's most interesting about Gretzky? And you know, this haven't been you know, college hockey player at Yale. And I know this being Canadian knowing grassy stories. Well, as anybody is that when they do those strength and conditioning tests Gretzky was always last like it wasn't like he's middle of the road like on the Oilers terrible at doing pushups, he can do any of that stuff. And yet as he explains the documentary with skills, like, anticipation, and creativity and famously parking behind the net. He was off the charts. Just explain though. Though. I mean, I I'm sure, you know, this though, it's almost like a rule of thumb like the stronger, it it's strange, but you know, college I felt the same way. It's always the guys that were last in these tr straight tests that were the best players. It's it's it's really strange, you know, and and and the reason, you know, these guys are the guys that are less they rely on other skills. And and and like you were saying at this patient and just talent. But talent just like come out of the blue. It's that they were, you know, practicing those those particular skills, you know, creative skills, the the show manship all those things that that are just not, you know, within weights don't do anything for right? And it's always the opposite yet coaches there. So, you know, adamant that you, you know, prove your strength and conditioning, and this and that, you know, but it's not really the skills that you need necessarily. I mean, everybody needs a certain level. Base strength. You know? But yeah, that's that's a very it's a very interesting. Kind of fact, you know, one of the best things that your documentary teaches that you need to have creativity in sports, and there's way too much rigorous teaching being done almost it's far to discipline. Like Gretzky says, you know, I would just be out there skating, and just, you know, messing around playing Jenny and just learning things Jerry Rice again playground. Like, we need to do more of that stuff. It should be less structured less joining the kids heads, and particularly, you know, you think about what soccer, I guess pale. You could symbol. Yeah. Isn't that? What guys you're doing? But when you look at what these coaches are doing Gabe. And you know, this now firsthand from like, a fundamental youth level, it's so structured it's so regimented, and it's still year round the go WI with any of these kids want to play any of these sports because they turn them off so young by these coaches, and it's interesting when Gretzky mentioned that he had good coaches, he talks about his dad, and he said, well, how much did he know? And he goes he knew enough which is a really good way of saying that most dads. They know their kids in well enough. They can teach them enough, right? Exactly. I mean, you couldn't nail. They're kinda hit it on the head. I mean, you know, that that's sort of a problem with they're saying with USA soccer that everything's so regimented structured, and you know, really if you look at where all the town is coming from Brazil, and all these other places these are kids that are playing on the street and just messing around, and and really kind of developing their improvisational skills and showmanship, and and you know, all those little little skills that you get when you're just sort of messing around and playing one on one against somebody. It's not in drills. You know, that's not worth greatness comes from, you know. So it's it's just allowing kids. Enjoy the sport, and and experiment and fail and use their imagination and creativity. That's where greatness comes from. Now. You know? And so, you know, it seems like our society. Listen, I don't have kids of that age. So I'm not seeing it first hand I will because I just had one. But you know, from what I'm. I'm hearing and seeing in parents is that it's becoming insanely structured and the pressures are getting higher and higher and parents want to feel like they have control over this that they're doing the right thing. But they're looking in the wrong places. You know, and I think the more pressure you put the worst performance, you know, kids get turned off, you know, 'cause it's just it's just not fun. And and really greatness is about having fun. If you look at all, these athletes, they're they're they're they derive the most fun from from just playing, you know, what I'm saying. It's not being forced to do anything. We're talking with Gabe Polsky his documentaries called in search of greatness going to insert your greatness dot com and find out where you can see it's really worth the watch. Well, my favorite parts gave in this is such a cool direct to'real trick. You did is when Gretzky is getting miked up. You know, it's kind of soft focus, and you sub tunnel. What he's saying? And I don't know if it's you or somebody who's with you is asking the questions, and he goes, no, I'm better when I don't know the. Questions. I keep thinking about that. I thought that was so cool. You know, the people who are the most gifted I find in life. Maybe I'm making to a extrapolation can certainly research has to go into something and preparation is important. But people were off the cuff are best at that. What did you take just from that limit? Why did you included the documentary? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think what he said, basically, I asked him if he knew what the film was about even because you know, I spent you know, almost seven months just trying to get Gretzky, and, you know, talk with his management that I thought for sure he knew what it was about. And and you know, all that. Because why would he sit down with me, you know, he doesn't need to. So it was very surprising. When he said, I don't know anything. And I don't wanna know what it's about really before. He sat down and interviewed me. And it just shows that listen, you know, the more. He's basically I want to think about anything. So that that's kinda inside the mind, and it wasn't meant to necessarily being the Phil. But I felt that it really kind of brought you behind the scenes about how these guys think inside their head. That they you know, there's a level just sort of improvisation like you're saying off the cuff that makes not just the performance better. But you're not in in your head. You're you're you're in the moment, you know. And that's what the best performers can do. And they don't like they enjoy that moment. And they it has to be kind of natural spontaneous. Because that's when the best performance happens. Not when it sort of planned and rigid. You know, we you have to react in the moment. You can't you don't have time to think when you're playing, you know, and I think the same as with interviews. You should just sort of, you know, there's a level spun natives enjoy that when you know when somebody stomps or just, you know, there's a sense of naturalist to it. You know, right. It's why you appreciate that. I didn't tell you the questions. I was going to ask you, look how your flowing right in. Exactly. On something else about Gretzky. And he's got the tape typical Canadian humility, we all have we keep mentioning locks is assigned a great coaching. Glenn say there. It was the perfect timing which is true hockey at that time was very free wheeling he was surrounded by great players, messy, curry, etc. You could score eight two, and that was just a, you know, an average result any points out luck. And maybe today's game would be a lot harder as you. And I both know the game hockey's different not offensive is in years past. But greatness is always there and the case of Jerry Rice. I look at the numbers he'd put up, and I think a journalist is playing now, he even more ridiculous. He's the greatest wide receiver all time. He might be the greatest football player of all time. And yet is he says in the documentary. I was never the fastest. I was never the strongest. I was just a great route runner. I was so precise with my routes. And again, you can say lock hit Montana. He had young Bill Walsh. But greatness, decifit survive. Don't you think rice would even better in today's football? I agree. Totally agree. I mean, I. Yeah. I mean, clearly, I mean, listen, it's more offensive, you know, so he would just put up better numbers. But it's it's interesting that jury. You know, I always I listened in a lot of his interviews. And he just, you know, just I'm sure you agree with me. But he's always just talking about his work ethic and just that he just worked in work and work. But in the film, he does bring a different side were, you know, he he talks about how he just loves the, you know, the performing, and and and and you know, putting on the greatest show ever he talks about how he loves the way. He, you know, he paid a lot of attention to how he dresses and just just the showmanship creativity. You know, and he it came out in the film, but he just he loves to harp on just this work. I think we all know sort of. But I I guess he he just does not want to. What's the word? He doesn't wanna come off of that idea that he he just he just will not accept it. Anyone even worked close to heart as he did, you know? And I guess he just wants to keep hammering that home. You know? But, but he did Jerry was a beautiful athlete to watch. I mean, he didn't you know? Then those years just amazing things creatively on the football field. And it was just beautiful to watch and play you agree. Absolutely. And I think that you're right. He had that kind of elegance that transcends. What generation he'd playing? Speaking of allegance. I'm an enormous Roger Federer fan as anybody. Who knows? I'm wondering if you have any chance trying to get federal for the documentary and another guy cabinet texts about is Steph curry, speaking of a guy who's unassuming, and yet creative, and brilliant and a guy and he. Yeah. Feller curry? Yeah. So two things you know, fatter. I did talk to his manager a few times. And it just didn't you know, he he's sort of so focused during the siege. Season. And that they don't guys never stop. You know, that I just he just said it's just impossible basically to get his attention. So I tried you know, and then and so I tried to include included fatter, Michael Jordan. Serena news people I tried to really include them at creative ways. Because clearly I mean, listen fetters kind undeniably the greatest tennis player now. And you know, what he's just so he embodies the concepts of the film, the sort of beauty and creativity. And like you said elegance. And you know, as far as Steph curry is concerned, you know, I really kinda kept it a rule of thumb that I wanted kind of undeniably, the greatest of all time, and in the film, you know, like like rice and disposition Gretzky and and Pele so with with Steph curry, it's kinda he's clearly incredibly creative. And and really embodies themes in the film, but not not he's not the greatest yet. But I do appreciate what he's doing. And and think that he's he brought again a new dimension to the game. And and it's sort of used his weaknesses and just really was able to, you know, bring a new element to the game and be creative. And really, you know, selling outbuildings performing is he's he's a showman. He's he's unbelievable. He does things that you know, that you sort of double have to double take. You can't believe, you know, talking with Gabe Polsky is documentaries called in search of greatness going to insert greatness dot com to get all the details there curious game because just an interview because I love the fact, you know, you put yourself in the dock not obviously in a way like like, a more would say, but you hear your questions you can have. I I in Red Army. You're great documentary. You install Fatih Soffer going back and forth. Little, but he gives you the finger at one point you concluded that the movie was there ever a moment with rice or Gretzky or payload that you asked a question that maybe they didn't care for. But they just didn't know how to react. You're just come in different exchange. You expecting? Yeah. I mean, I'm I'm kind of a strange guy a little bit. You know, just my my nature is a little bit strange, and you bring that up. I mean, I when I started directing docks, I didn't necessarily want myself in there, and you know, sort of timid and shy didn't want, you know, to draw attention to myself. But then, you know, basically one day one of the editors I was working with at that time kinda try to couple interesting things, and you know, at first I was like this is no way like sound like it it is. And you know, I don't want us in there and was embarrassed. But then you know, I screened it. He said, you know, let's screen it. And then people started laughing and thought it was kind of funny and interesting. So I kind of realized that it just it makes it feel better so way, not just that. But like, you know, sometimes it's just the way people react to a question that that that sort of draws out something unique and interesting about that character, you know, and it's not. So you need the question in there as well to kind of illuminate this side of their character. And so I just started. Kinda allowing that to happen. A little bit more than people found it funny. I mean, a lot of times, you know, when I was a kid people thought, I was funny. I I didn't even think I was fun. You know, laugh at things I said, but I didn't even like wanted to be. I didn't try it for it to be funny. I it was just weird or you know, what I'm saying. I think people sometimes just realize that they're what like verte Herzog. It's it's kind of a funny example, like I think he's the most hilarious guy. And I've worked at them. And and spend time with them. I don't think he knows. He's funny. He doesn't think you know, what I'm saying. He doesn't think he's funny. But he just is. 'cause I don't know the way he sees. Thanks. So it's an interesting thing. Does that make sense it does? Now you've opened a can of worms with hose because grizzly man. I remember I thought it was hysterical. And my. Yes. Such a funny movie. Even though it's, you know, this story the subject line is terrified tell me about working with him because it's amazing to be. Yeah. I mean, it's it's just so interesting. Because he's just such a different guy. And like, you know, his viewpoint has porn, you know, the way he thinks about the world is so kind of different. And and and, you know, obviously wise in in a in a lot of ways and just super interesting. So like everything he does he. He does it with this sort of unique perspective, you know. So what do you sit down with them, and you know, have dinner, whatever hang out, you know, it's just super interesting. And and you know, I don't know weighs on you. Or, you know, allows you to kind of also see the world a little bit differently. It's just it's just a rich. The guy was so much experience. And then you know, has dealt with seen so much and his life. And and and and put himself in situations that you know, are super interesting. And that that that's why it's such a great storyteller. Because he he really. He really, you know has seen a lot because he's put himself in in those positions to see a lot, you know. So it's just it was awesome to work with him on on ballot tenant. And then he sort of you know, stayed we've stayed you know, friendly, and he's been kind of incredibly supportive to me the thing of a bad Lieutenant, and I love the the tell able original is that burn hers like city wasn't making a remake which I never understood. Why be call it bad the tenant? Yeah. I know. Well that was because he don't actually. Yeah. It's kinda like, I know. It sounds crazy. But like JAMES BOND, where it's just, you know, each one would be like a different, you know, just. It's kind of a similar character. But in different worlds different story. You know what I'm saying? And so you're not remaking the first one you're not like, you know, what I'm saying. No. It's just another story of of this guy this badly tenant. You know? Develop it, and like, you know, people. Well, what do you call? Yeah. I mean badly, but it's a different story. You know, right. It's going to be even Lieutenant he just gets really nasty it's against Costa different level of that. I you're great college hockey player at Yale. When you win the Academy Award for inserts of greatness, and we have ESPN and the hockey department is as you know, John buccigross, Steve Levy me and Linda Cohn can we get a game together. And if so if we're going to pick teams, can we just make it clear that you and I are on the same team that will be great. I'll just feed you the puck you stand in for the net. Are you? Are you pretty good? I'm decent. I, you know. I haven't skied in a long time. And as you know, the key has tell the everybody hockey is skating like, you know, everybody that I've ever met my life if they can actually play it's because they can skate and those that can't skate are no good. So my point in this is I used to be much better. But I can still skate. So in essence, I still got the wheels game. All right. Well, I'll I'll find you. Yeah. So that'll be fun. We'll have Melrose coaching or do you want? Melrose to play. What do you think it'd be more advantageous to us? I don't know. What's he like, he was tough guy? Right to say, you know, what we should it'd if it was you me, and Melrose would be good because you know, I can skate. I know you're the best player on the team. Melrose because I- chirp too much when I'm Chirpin boots. Your Levy, Melrose will come in and clean up the mess. Yeah. They'll be interesting. Yeah. Well, I I look forward to that. Have you ever come to use PM on the way? Seriously. I know I have never been there. No, you're gonna come seriously open invite whenever you want to come. You're gonna come because I know, obviously, your big awesome. Yeah. You've had these sports themed documentaries. Not only Red Army. But in search of greatness, go to insert of greatness dot com. And check out a terrific documentary. I know it's kind of Riverview Scott Feinberg, a high reporter semi message much. He loved it. One to have you on the pod. So great stuff man all the best. And I know Ben lines is always indentity because he met his wife. Mariah I believe the post party for Red Army. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he keeps telling me that store. I didn't really do that much. But yeah, we had a great partying Hannah was just. It was rocking and rolling on the on the water there, and there is all sorts of people there. I guess Ben ran into his future wife there. And so I guess he's always indebted to me. I think that's absolutely accurate. The great game Polsky. Thanks so much of the time. They a pleasure. All right. So that was Polski, Dan. Don't you think gave polcy interesting guy? Right. Yeah. You know, he's not trying to be funny. But people think he's funny. Very interesting the Kate different. Yeah. Because like I'm always shot into the cannon. And most people I feel like when they do these interviews there junkets interviews like when I liked the vitamins, he's kind of got a it's not a draw. But it's a deliberate style of speaking. Yeah. Definitely the opposite of you who talk you talk faster than anybody. I know. No. I think the fast, you don't know why she works in sports. And if you knew her, she's the fastest person. Vera passport is that is very he's unreal housing. Wow. But I do talk guy Greenies up there as well. We can also talk very fast. Yeah. Password. Would you take from Cape? Pulse. Could you have you seen Red Army? Have you seen in search of grains? Not I have not going to chance to watch either those. But I will I will definitely check out in surgery, and it's obviously being a sports guy. Yes. Can you DSP n I feel it might be required viewing for us. But I will definitely check it out. He seems to have his finger on the pulse from what I've seen from trailers and stuff like that. Yeah. Of really kind of. Breaking down especially nowadays. How sports have changed especially for youth? And that that's the one thing to me. It seems like how the the grates that we've talked about Gretzky in Jerry Rice and whatnot their preparation versus how the grades currently prepare and the different dynamic and generational changes of how sports evolved in who you deem is a great player. Yeah. Well, the best parts of the dock Gretzky says like as a kid he goes, I would just skate. I would just be just my now just set up in it. And I just I played like six hours. That's where I just I can't put this stuff on my own didn't have structure in have drills. And the point you make a preparation won't buy gave acid going over game planning goes. Oh, I don't know. I was I've played ping pong until six fifty five. I screwing around Goma guy like that. It's a Gretzky's like the the far example of a guy who clearly was just relying an instinct feels like I know he must Morgan art. We does not make it sound. Like he was looking at. All right. Patrick wa scouting reports. He's go, right. Let's do this. Can we talk about your hockey skills because we were talking here as you're selling yourself? This is great hockey. Are you good? I got I'm not the key is skating, and the I haven't skin is you're probably like happy Gilmour without the slapshot or the physicality is that fair not fair. And I'd be better than any of you. Then it's clearly I would destroy all of us already. I'm good. I've been ice skating. One time in my land. Dance is also not proficient skater. No, I'm actually banned for life from a in Syracuse way what happened. That's going to tell the story charges still pending statue of limitations van for life. Idell poll skill ever come up here that they Bucci garages legitimate, great hockey player. He's also in great shape as well. All right. One other interview here for you as big a sports again a sports theme documentary. Peter accident who had the pleasure meeting at Sundance reached out to me and said if you heard of free solo I I haven't heard of it. I can't wait to see this thing. And definitely want to see on the big screen, which I do not have the opportunity to do because time is tight as I watched it on my ipad. But seriously, if you have a chance to watch in the theater, the stories this, Alex Honolulu is a crazy, man. He's a mountain climber. He actually climbed El capitan in Yosemite, which is three thousand feet and free soloing for those at all done is that means you do without a rope cat was a part of the action Stephen Smith when we read them on Friday. In fact, and John Vilma was also part of the interview seal here Vilma in there as well. But Alex Hanell three solo is the documentary. He climbed a mountain, and he did it without a rope. He didn't have his fingernails and his feet and guts and guile. And here's the interview for your. Enjoyment free cell is they the doc if you're a smoker, you know, switching isn't easy. You've tried vapes. And e six they just didn't deliver the satisfaction. You expected jewel is different. It's not an e cigarette it's vapor product that actually satisfies plus Julie's simple to use. And there's no cigarette ash and no lingering odor as a smoker, you expect a certain nicotine experience right jewel delivers give jewelry. Try check out. J U L dot com slash sports. Switch NBC satisfied. Yes. You can do both. Warning. This product contains nicotine nicotine is an addictive chemical. Real pleasure. Walkman. Alex huddled who is an absolute animal. The movie is called free solar documentaries available in theaters everywhere. Now coming from National Geographic, and Alex is an absolute animal for this very reason. He climbed three thousand feet Al copy town in Yosemite national park without a rope. It's called free soloing, hence, the name of the doc is called free solo. And we welcome him. Now, Alex, I watched his documentary through my fingers. I was so terrified for you. How in the world? Did you do this? What in the world is the appeal of free soloing for you. I mean, it's a big question. I mean, free Soling sort of one aspect of climbing, and I've loved all kinds of climbing for the last twenty years, but I think that part of the appeal of resilience that it's just demands more from you it requires you to perform at a at a higher level some extent. So it's kind of a nice it's like a test of climbing. That's one thing to be to be attracted the idea of like you said, it's a real extreme level of climbing. But it's one thing to do it nothing to actually be filled. I have the idea of being filmed by Jimmy Chen and his team come about. Yes. The film. So they actually reach out to me Jimmy Chen and his co director his wife, actually, CHAI best. Really? They had just made the film, Mary, which is a great film nearing and an Tina and everybody respected their work as they approach me about making a film and as a professional climate huge opportunity. I was like that's great. And then it was me that that wanted to make it about. Okay. Mostly because you know, someone's gonna make a feature film by you should be about something significant. And to me, the only thing worth making a foam out was okay. And then the more the more practical side of it is that that as a professional climate. I mean, I have a lot of obligations to for sponsors. We're going to events and things like that. And an okay off with such a big challenge for me that I kind of needed an excuse to clear my schedule for awhile and making a feature film with something that I could take all my sponsors. And be like, oh, you know. I can't do any work for the next six months because I'm working on the movie. Smart, man. Yeah. Yeah. People talk about the motivations for the film. But I mean that kind of was one of the practical sides of those like, wow, this is a great cover to work on this big life project that I've been wanting to do forever. But it's like hard for me to get the time to work on a myself without some kind of good excuse, you know, when you were doing this. What was the most agonizing part or the most agonizing moment of the of the whole filming everything what was the most agonizing for. Well, the hardest part of the filming was definitely, you know, shooting interviews or shooting just like having the camera and all the time feeling like there's always something in your space a little bit. But but I think the when you're talking about the grind. I mean, the real grind with all the training like the physical training like I was going climbing all the time. I was doing extra ups, you know, fingertip pull ups and things core exercises, stretching all the basic body maintenance. But I think that with climbing is maybe a little bit more fun than than you know, other sports is because you're not like in a gym working hard. You're actually out in the mountains. Playing doing the thing that you love to do. But certainly I was very fatigued for very long time. And so, you know during the climb your fatigue. No, no, I'm saying like the six months, the six months, I mean because I was kind of preparing for two years at a time. But for the six months directly ahead of the actual free solo. I was going pretty hard. I was training maybe thirty five or forty hours a week, which is kind of a lot. I mean, there's a lot of hours of physical effort. Yeah. And you know, I was just hired a lot. How about the personal focus of the story as well showing you and your girlfriend you guys still together. Yeah. We're still together. Yeah. The relationship is great. You know, obviously making a film butter relationship as a little strain and the release of the film is, you know, been been experienced both of us, but another relationship with great, and we're living together in Vegas and things. Really good. We continue here with Alex hanalei on Sinophile. The Adnan Virk movie podcast. Alex, your personal relationship is examined in the film, and I loved how honest it was in the fact that you're very clear about the fact that nothing's gonna get in your way, it has that been a detriment to relationships, absolutely. It has because you can't have anything holding you back and there's been other mountain climbers. Who have said that you said, listen, a relationship will hold you back. You should probably be single and you do this. Because to put a fine point on it. You've seen people die how many people throughout the career melt climbing seeing it'd be good friends theirs. But you've seen die twenty thirty people on and how much does that affect you and your personal life? I mean, you had a tough question. I mean seen seen accidents in meet around climate accidents. I mean, it's definitely hard. But I mean, I actually kind of reject the idea that you have to distance yourself from from relationships in order to perform well. And I think that's that's one of the core elements of the film is is Sanni sort of my my girlfriend's Johnny pushing back on that whole idea in like, well, why why not have both why not have a good healthy relationship and still perform at a high level. And and I think that that's something that you sort of see through the course of the film is that the ultimate they I am able to do that. And and I think honestly is better for my life in general. I'm with you because I often hear people aspiring whether it's sportscasters are musicians or actors saying, well, I've gotta just focused on the music of the can't be held back. But I'm with you. I think a relationship helps to inspire one. I think it gives you more. Yeah. Fulfillment. Right. Yeah. I kind of agree. And I mean, just on a practical side and a lot of ways having a healthy stable relationship and makes the rest of your life so much more. I mean, yes, stabil-, I guess, you know, I find that. I eat better. And I sleep. Better in my training is more consistent. You know, basically, my life is healthier. And so I think that having having a good health relationship like helps in a lot of ways with performance a free solo in theaters nationwide. Couple more for you, the most gripping part, I thought it was when this show you going through the steps that you're on the rope. Obviously was you're practicing so to speak, and you got chalk, outlines, etc. And there's that one move. You gotta do and you say, well, if I- karate kick it that'll be effective. But if I miss it all die think about for anybody who there's nothing you can have in life to say, well, this is probably the practical way to do this. But if I miss it, I'm going to die. What can you just explain to me what your thought process has to operate with that? Because in the movie, you don't to the chronic wreck. No. I do the karate do. Are you do if you miss it? You're going to die. No, no knows. Maybe you confused. So there were two ways one of them is a jump or the karate kick. I mean, if you fail with the crazy kick, you you dial. So, but right, but the jump is a little more dramatic because if you jump, you know, basically why you're flying through the air. It's like you're going to die unless you catch with the karate kick, it feels a little bit less extreme. But but yeah, I mean when you as what I was thinking about that. I mean, the key is to do all the thinking while I'm hanging there with a rope, you know, to spend the preparation ahead of time. So that when I'm actually doing the climb. I'm not thinking about anything. I just execute. I just perform, you know, it's like, yeah. Like a gymnast doing their routine or something you just do it. And lastly, the exaltation the emotion like just seeing the smile in your face because if I may say, I don't think you're the most outgoing guy thinking, you kind of let everybody in, but you're focusing the job, and you're not the most you bullying, but that emotion like when you're finally you climbed a mountain, man. Like, he climbed to seventy what was that. Like, oh is it was amazing. I mean, you know, in the film. I was delighted I mean, you can see the big you can see. The big smile on my face on top. And honestly, I had that smile for you know, week or two at least and even now thinking about it. I started a small. I mean, it is it is a climb that. I'm very proud of. And and anytime, I think about it. It still makes me pretty happy. And certainly anytime I see the end of the film. I'm pretty heavy, and here's one of the thought to just the amount of suspense to this movie. Because if somebody says, well, Irena what happens I heard you talk to Alex, obviously. But, but when you called it off like I said, oh, man, like how much doubt was there to say, you know, what it's in the middle of the night. And you see Jimmy Johns reaction as call him up. It's not going to happen. Like, the you didn't. And they kept telling you, listen, you'll have to do any point. You can say, no, right. Yeah. And that's the thing with reselling is that really nobody wants you to do it. You know, I was the only person that wanted to to do this climb. Everybody else thought it seemed crazy in that. I probably shouldn't in this seem too risky or too dangerous. But. You know, I mean and free selling should be a personal choice. I mean because it is my life at risk. You know? I mean, it should I should be very confident with I feel comfortable with my choices. We have my adulation admiration not only for the climate also for lying Lewis cameras in there. Because as you bluntly said, you know, if I die and my friends see this that would be kind of weird. So Alison old free solo is the documentary. Check it out. Thanks so much, man. Every family. Obviously, I lead a charmed life yet. ESPN incredible family wonderful job in great friends. Like, the great Michael deepens Onny was in the house rare to have a guest review he wrote a few times. Yeah. Rob Linley reviewed a soccer movie. Mark Simon his favorite documentaries. Yep. Michael Juna recently, reviewed Mandy. But you're the first guy everybody having back for repeat appearance. So strong by Jake del moral killed his Godley review is great. But you're the only one ever brought back a second time because the thought of you was such odd fire. Yeah. Well, the floor was fantastic. And I absolutely loved it. But Dan, just a heads up. I'm coming in hot on this one. So get that bleep button ready. Like, I don't know. I might let a couple, thanks. So preface like I'm a venom fan. I grew up in Spiderman household I loved venom. I love Spiderman I loved everything about it. But I read the reasons movie I knew what was up, right? So I decided to get some candy to give me through this movie. But Adnan there are not enough milk duds in the world to get me through this movie. Again, like, I have somebody feeding them. Me like a Roman emperor. And I wouldn't go back the movie itself. Like, it's not funny. It's stilted. It's just chopped together. It's Eddie Brock is a journalist and give us whatever story there is to this thing. Okay. So Eddie Brock is a journalist. But he's like a bad boy, kind of journalist, I guess, and it's like an eighth graders view of journalism, right? Because the main thrust of the movie the reason he'd like the whole action starts is. He goes. And he interviews this guy would seem re-submit goodn- it. He's he's the has this like casual kind of sociopathic. That's amazing. And it's like a Silicon Valley, bro. The night off. But like the whole the whole reason it gets in trouble. Is he starts doing this? Gotcha interview with them as if it's like being broadcast live on the six o'clock news news, Tom Brokaw. But he's not like, it's just whatever. Okay. So it's just it's very bad. And Tom hardy is bad in this movie. I don't know how he's bad in a movie, but he is zero things happen. He has no plan much like the screen writers who wrote this movie, and I I would not sit through it again. And I love superhero movies. I love everything about them. And I would say from this one how many police you're giving this movie? So I I do movies. I've twenty eight scale baseball. This is this is this is. This is Bill Lawson wears applaud twenty eight scale this is he's the only one in our audience. This is straight twenty. I would never go see it. Again. The best part of this movie is the captain marvel trailer at the beginning. Last point here. Tom hardy is bad. What he's like, he's not funny. Oh, and I forgot to mention this venom. So I don't know if you know anything about comic, there's a whole my brother would know. But he probably would like. The Symbian has its own distinct personality detaches onto Eddie Brock, and they had this awful, laurel and hardy routine. It's like who's on first, except if it wasn't funny and about murder, and it's it's just really bad. And yeah, it was two hours. There's a slog is just poorly planned poorly put together, and it really just needs Spiderman. That's it. It's just the venom isn't a main driver. I guess good a supporting character. Yeah. In the comics. He's great. I mean avenue customer should stay in it. Yeah. I don't know. You're telling me the twenty two eighty scale from Mike Panzani. Thanks. Thank you. He's just an average man within average life came his appeal dictate that I'll read it. My alley before most flaming training. Dan, stands Ekeid's. I thought it was a little little much every mad. We really got update that open. I saw Randy the other day. All you wanna talk to you as Chappaquiddick, which I haven't seen. And then I said I wanted to get to the businessman, which is can you update some of these opens? But just when you see him next go. Hey, how about Chappaquiddick competition about that? And think they can get rid of my remain open. It's nauseating. Good plan. All right. He also big free solo guy. He loves that stuff. Big surprise memories. Strange thing. It doesn't work like I thought it did we are so bound by time by its order. But now, I'm not so sure I believe in beginnings and endings. Any other guest though, it's not the Mentone help arrival. Oh. Two thousand sixteen SCI fi film starring Amy Adams, Jeremy Renner and forest Whitaker, directed by French Canadian Denis Villeneuve Geneva of DO, Denise, okay? This guy. Didn't he Ville new? Is it Denise Avars? It. Denis Savard didn't even trying to get a rank. I got to say it again. And he didn't even knew didn't he Ville? Now. It's worse. Every time I need to say, I'm gonna point to you. And you're going to say, and he Villneuve who also did Sicario and most recently blade runner twenty forty nine. The film is set in present day centers around twelve alien spaceships that have landed in different places around the globe, Denise Villneuve and cinematographer Bradley young described the look they were going for as quote, dirty scifi to indicate that something like this could happen on any given day Adams plays a linguist who teaches communication at an unnamed college whose recruited by US Colonel played by Whittaker to figure out two things what they want and where they're from Adams is taken to an army compound set up next t the Alleyen vessel that landed in the United States more specifically. In Montana there. She works with a theoretical physicist. Played by Renner in communicating with the alliens who look nothing like any other aliens you've seen in movies and TV shows these aliens, look more like a couple of octopuses, but because they only have seven arms they're referred to as hep dapa. Trying to make sense of the hit the pods proves to be a growing process. Speaking words in decoding sound gets nowhere, but Adams and Renner make great strides with writing words on a whiteboard in deciphering pictograms spewed back at them. The seemingly nonstop work starts to take a physical and emotional toll on Adams. She needs boosters from the army doctors, and she starts seeing a string of Boll joyful and painful memories in the compound, there are video screens from the other eleven sites as the world appears to be working together to figure out what the alliens want. And if I remember correctly, one of your Canadian friends is in one of those scenes deep all AWali who also is in Mali's game with Aaron Sorkin. He's a terrific broadcaster. He was also in a rival. Okay. So the world's working together until they had the pods convey what most interpret as a threatening message. There is no unified response from the twelve sites aside from the fact that they all go off line and sees working together. Trying to want to use military force issue this ultimate him other nations prepared to follow suit. So it's a race against time for Adams to prove that something was simply lost in translation. As much as the film is about science fiction in alliens. It's really more about communication collaboration language and a new interpretation of time which elicits a quote from Albert Einstein distinction between the past present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion. It's a movie that makes you think there are and drums terms like non zero sum game, which I'd never heard of and. This. And questions that are hard to answer. There is also classical music that's heavy on the violin. Andy classically pretty Amy Adams who was robbed of an Oscar nomination. I give the film four stars. And encourage everyone to see just loves Amy Adams, Amy Adams, and Anna Kendrick. Those are the wheelhouse of Dan stands what is non zero sum game? What does that mean? It's like where everybody can win zero-sum game is there's one winner and everybody else's a loser. A non zero sum game. The example that use on some site. I don't know if it's compete or not. But I was looking at the other day. It's like say it's like a husband and a wife the husband wants to go to a football game. The wife wants to go to the opera. The husband would rather go to the opera with his wife then go to the football game by himself. I don't know if I believe that. And the wife would rather go to the football game with the husband, then go to the opera by herself. So it's a Nazi both get something collaborate. I like Powell Jones I love that's where the word smelt the same way forward. What's your favorite? What is the flyers hockey eerie ladder was the defense? L A T A L N, Joel Otto, great hockey player. OTT? Oh, do you have like an actual word? Now. I just like those race car race cars at terrific found Rome on that note. Denise Ville arrival. Through much of this podcast. I've seen Danny was on his phone for a little bit. And then I saw a passport was immediately feverishly looking up the review. So what exactly did the guy say about you? Did you look at? Have I tunes, but I. Mike. I'm like, okay. I want to read more about this. I promise I will take criticism. Very well. And I take really really appointed. Harsh mean criticism. I liked that as well. Because I think it's humorous that someone's feels that strongly about what I do. I'll find it for. But go ahead give me a review anyway, no in defense of this week because I've kind of been very heavily sedated by red dead redemption to the new game out on the XBox. That's unsurprised. And I almost did it in defense of how cinematic video games are becoming but I decided against it because I just didn't feel like writing it because I spent so much time playing. However, I did get to go see bohemian rhapsody. Oh, in I max last week, which now up here, you can't see in an I max the Grinch is kind of taken over the IMAX theater, which is a shame far as I'm concerned. But. Let me start with the high points of the film because they're existent. But they're few and far between Rami Malik is brilliant. I believe you said you have them as like number one on gold derby to win the Oscar right now, I got a number three. I got Bradley Cooper at one. I've got mommy. Mom, getting a nomination. He'll get a nomination for. Sure. But there are times in the film when I'm thinking now, that's ready. Mercury. That's not an actor. That's tremendous the accurate plays. Brian May Gwilym Lee looks exactly like Brian May the actor that plays Roger Taylor. Ben hardy looks exactly like Roger Taylor circa the seventies and early eighties the soundtrack, obviously, it's Queen. It's fantastic. It's well used the sound design is amazing the Live Aid performance at the end of the film, though, surprised what it is. I can't really spoil it. It's thirty or forty years old almost. The they built the entire set. From scratch at Wembley. The stage is the actual stage. The crowd is CG in that's pretty blatant. Once you see the overhead shot, but the stage itself is the exact stage replica from Wembley Live Aid back in there in the eighties. That whole sequence is tremendous. I'm sitting in the theater about wanting to sing out loud. Like, I'm actually in the concert. It's such a good sound design and such a good sound mix. And it's almost replicated exactly from that Live Aid source, but I believe it's re recorded, and it's just it's a fun movie to watch. I'll give it that. It's it's a little long at almost two and a half hours. I want to say it's like to fifteen but that's about where the good ends. And it kind of plays a little bit with history. Create some revisionist history in the script, and you can see why Sasha baron. Cohen was not, Freddie. Mercury and Rami Malik was picked up to play the role. Because Brian May and Roger Taylor also executive producers on the film and definitely did not want to tell the true story because maybe to them the true story wasn't as fantastic and wasn't as dramatic as someone make it seem. But at the same time, there were a lot of just blatant inaccuracies within the film such as how Queen met and how Freddie Mercury got his start with the band. His aides reveal definitely didn't play out in real life. The way it played on the movie, in fact, it's actually chronologically inaccurate. It didn't happen when it happened and a lot of the drama. They built up was just false and made for drama. So when it comes to just making making something up just to have the storyline. I think it falters there. I but at the same time, I still think it's a fun movie to watch. I think Romney Malik performance is worthy of a star boost on its own. I give it to and a half at the end of the day. I think if you if you don't have as charismatic a lead as you do in Rami Malik, and even in even the other Queen performers, and Brian Willem Lee and Ben hardy, they're fun portrayals of those characters those people, I think it really falters. Even though you have such a fantastical band to begin with was such a storied history as Queen who created these great hits and one of the best parts in the movie as well. And we've seen it in the trailers, and it's not a spoiler because it's it's one of the big poster poster moments of the film is Mike Myers cameo as the fictional EMI. Record executive Alec Baldwin is this show the oddball then show now, which is great in the interview, Mike Marsh talk. But that he said they had to get him. Because of course, well, he me wraps. You is so critical in Wayne's world. And that's a song that Mike can play in Scarborough Ontario as going to believe games. So they said it was very tongue in cheek. They put him in there. But I was the the way a played out was fantastic. Because even the friends I was with I recognize you're right away. I've seen enough. Myers movies him in heavy makeup. The knows like, okay. That's Mike Myers. He's doing his British accent. You know? Okay. This is this is the part where they're trying to sell bohemian rhapsody to him. And it took them a minute to realize because he does a very good job like even in heavy makeup. Sometimes Mike Myers can just kind of disappear into the Easter of his disguise, but the the dialogue shared between him and Freddie Mercury and the rest of the band them trying to sell them on a night at the Oscars. Like, no, I want rock and roll. I don't want this. What is blaming wrath? What's a rap city? Ladies, actually, as an infringement is is like, it's an epic poem, and with all the bravado that you would think of Freddie, Murphy, which Freddie Mercury which actually wasn't, you know, again, another factual inaccuracy that he's not day. He wasn't as flamboyant and bravado of driven as he was on stage. He was much more shy and reclusive in real life. He definitely had a lot of insecurities. But he gets on there. And they're selling it, six minutes. It's too long. They'll never play it on the radio and all this goes on. And you know, we've seen it in the trailer. The joke about his wife thinking six minutes too long feels sorry for an all that stuff. But the one real catch joke of the of the whole exchange, again, you'll want something to kids can just crank the music up and bang their heads to and it's not gonna be book him hymning rep city, and of course, Mike Myers famously in Wayne's world cranked up the music and banged his head to bohemian rhapsody back in nineteen Ninety-one that feels a Queen fans way. Like it a lot. And we'll end with this on the next foul have reviews big Oscar movies here the favorites during MFL, Rachel vise. Barry Jenkins if Bill streak at talk Steve Carell, Timoteo shallow may beautiful boy and a Canadian movie called tiger. All that more coming up in the next podcast here. I do have the review this from hot lunch, man. Once again, go on I tunes and give us your view Iraq movies in a formula beliefs rank us in a five stars. And give us a review. Here's hot. Lunch ban. Love Adnan's interview style. He seems to surprise his guests with the depth of his knowledge and his questioning Stankovic spelled correctly provides a good pop culture counterbalanced to Adnan's inner geek Passmore's a bag of hot air, his reviews rambling nonsense and. And the show would be better without his interjections. So he didn't call you. That's a good news. No. But a bag of hot air. I would have preferred pal expands upon his vocabulary a little bit. Well, that pastors response in the next how to hot lunch ban until that. I'll see you at the movies. Miss out on the next episode of Sinophile. Subscribe to the ad n for movie podcast clicking the listen tab in the ESPN. Smoking always affected my daily life because I was a closet smoker. It really sort of controlled my entire day. My boss is the one that recommended jewel. So I decided to give it a try. You don't get any of the odor of smoking. There's no ash all over your car. 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