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Welcome to the sporting life with Jeremy shop. Over the next hour race favourite. Brad Keselowski lays out he's planned to win. This weekend's Daytona five hundred everything have to come together. Perfectly to win the Daytona five hundred for us that hasn't happened yet. But I'm confident we just kind of stay the course and try to to do everything we can to run up front lead lap and went at it will be dead e sixties executive producer. Andy Tennant describes the principles that guide. ESPN's award-winning morning show thirty for thirty came along they were telling stories longer than anybody else at ESPN and the response was overwhelming. And we started to look at ourselves as storytellers and say, you know, maybe we don't have this, right? Maybe shorter isn't better maybe longer as better plus an outside the lines feature pays tribute to the life of Frank Robinson. The first African American manager in major league baseball history a lot of expectations and a lot of happy people because one thing and right funds for one thing wrong. It was going to be doubly bad. Because me being the first guy that didn't bother. This is the sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Here's Jeremy shop. Welcome to another Bishop the sporting line this past Monday, Thailand, freed Hakeem Allah Alaraby about rainy soccer play who'd been detained for seventy days. As Bahrain tried to have him extradited where he is considered a criminal in Australia. He is a refugee and finally he was freed, and he is now backing Australia. We'll be talking about his situation later in the show with Andrew or Sidey of fief pro the global soccer players union. But I with the Daytona five hundred right around the corner. We welcome to the show. What are the best drivers in the world? The two thousand twelve sprint Cup champion. Brad kozlowski. Brad. Thank you for being with us. Thanks for having me on guys. Appreciate it. Brad. You've never won this particular race. You've what all the other big races. What would it mean to you to break through this year Daytona whether they on five hundred is probably the biggest race in NASCAR? And with that mind if it's kinda strange and it starts the season. But also kinda cool. It says some unique about our sport. And you know, like you said I haven't one one a lot of other races that I'm really proud of one. But not that they told the five hundred and I think it would mean a lot to me it's kind of one of those on clothes tappers in my career that I'm hoping that we can check the box on this year. We're spewed Brad Keselowski. You're thirty five. Now as we've said, you know, you've done just about everything that you can do in NASCAR except win this race. And you've talked about it recently. What it takes to win the Daytona five hundred sometimes it falls into your lap. Sometimes it is victory produced by aggressiveness by certain decision making. What's your approach going to be? Well, I'm gonna just try to lead every lap pecan to be quite honest. You know, you just don't know how these races are going to play out. It seems we we've had the car to to win this race number years. And you know, it seems. Like the years that we have the car to win race. There's been a lot of wrecks on a lot of attrition and things haven't come together for. And here's what we haven't had the probably the car effort to win the race. You know, I've been years where there hasn't been a lot of attrition. So everything has to come together. Just perfectly to win the Daytona five hundred you know, for us that hasn't happened yet. But I'm confident we just kind of stay the course and try to to do everything we can to run up front and lead laps and went at it will actually be speaking with Brad kiss Laskey if the two car Daytona five hundred coming up. What would it mean to you to win the great American race? Well, I think it winning the great American race being the the one box. It's not checked. My career is is a statement. It's the statement that you know, you've kind of done the most important thing you can do as a professional risk driver in North America. And that you're one of the legends. I loved to join that group you've been working with Roger Penske for longtime. Now when the great. Figures in the annals of your sport. When people ask you about Roger Penske. What are the first things that come to mind? Probably just his grace is class. I his ability to lose, but come back, and and and learn lessons and be better for it. And then eventually, prevail. He he's got so many, you know, amazing qualities about him. But those are are one anywhere else. Or I haven't seen anywhere else at my life in it. It's a testament to success is those ability at this point for Roger Penske, who I think is spent eight years old cow involved this on a day-to-day basis with what you guys are doing. Oh, he knows what's going on. You know, our our team president, Tim Senator can him. You know, they they talk jeeze if it's not a daily basis as close to it. But he he's definitely got spin around the pulse. And that's really important to this successive are arresting speaking with Brad Keselowski about the tone of five hundred about NASCAR general your last. Last year was an interesting year for the sports. There was a great finish to the championship race at the end. But there were there were warning signs that the business of NASCAR is not as robust, certainly as it has been or it was ten or fifteen years ago sponsorship down, the removing stands from some tracks of how you assess the state of nascar's business right now Brad, well, my ability to influence that is so very very little that, you know, I just asked for the serenity to let go and focus on things I can't control. And you know, that's that's tough because I wanna see this basic. That's what it can be. But the reality is I have very very little control over those things. And and to put my time and energy and thought into that is more harmful than good. So quite are. I'm trying not to be honest. And I think that there's some smart people working on all that stuff and. They'll figure it out. Is there anything from where you stand even if you're not putting any kind of mental energy into there's something from where you stand that. You think can be done to to get NASCAR back to where it was in the public consciousness. What's orland? There's a lot of knobs that can always be adjusted here there. It's just a matter of, you know, having the willingness to act and Embiid to do. So so, you know, I'll let those that have the control of the knobs worry about speaking. With Brad Keselowski. Very talented NASCAR driver who's competing, of course, in the Daytona five hundred this weekend, some people call it the great American race others calls the Indy. Five hundred if you're an open wheel fan still looking for that I e tone of five hundred victory won the sprint Cup. Which is now the monster Cup championship in two thousand twelve will what goes through your mind in the moments right before the race starts. Well, the pattern of the Daytona five hundred really not like any other. Nascar race it. It's pretty incredible. And you know, you try to treat the race like getting out of the race. But when when all of those things happen all the pre pre-race, hyper literally right before you get in the car, and you see all the people in the stands. It definitely affects you and puts some thoughts in your mind. But you know, you try to calm yourself and stay focused. It's a big race and get into tents or too excited about Inga any favor. So I just try to keep myself calm and do you? Typically succeed you stay calm. Yeah. I think so it would result and been when I want it. But I feel good about the things that we're doing that. We can control we've been speaking with Brad his St. who would be competing again in the Daytona five hundred looking I first win there. We bills have been discussing the state of that star. Brad. Enjoy the race. Good luck. Stay safe. It's really been a pleasure having you here on on the sporting life. Well, thank you so much and hope you have a great day as well. And enjoy the Daytona five hundred. This is the sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. This past week e sixty kicked off its twelfth season on ESPN the show goes back to two thousand seven for most of its history. It was a monthly show. But for the last two years, it's been weekly show on Sunday mornings, nine o'clock eastern time hosted by yours truly in that that guy Bob Lee, who's taken a long vacation. He calls it a sabbatical. It's really a vacation. He says he's coming back in April. I I'm not holding my breath. We welcome to the show. Now. It's always interesting when you get interview your boss, the executive producer of e sixty a man who's won about forty seven national sports EMMY awards, but who's counting my good friend. Andrew Tennant, Andy. How are you? Hello. Jeremy I'm holding my breath speak into the microphone. Okay. I I know this isn't what you normally do. But why don't we speak into the microphone this make this easy for the producers? Okay. I know you're a visual guy. It's a visual medium television e- sixties about production values, but this is audio east sixties back this past week in the season premiere. We had a story about parkland about Marjory stoneman Douglas high school in parkland Florida, and it's football team trying to cope in the aftermath of the horrific school shooting that took place a year ago this week on February fourteen twenty eighteen that was a story that in many ways is emblematic of what e- sixty is done a story about sports. But it's also not a story about sports. It's also story that required a full year's worth of reporting and producing for Martin co Bosch, and in particular, I was the reporter. But most of the work is as is usually the case, it'd be the first to say that is done by the. Juicer obviously there was an anniversary this week. But why did why did e sixty choose to tell this story about parkland? I think for us. It's about yes, we worked for sports network. Yes. Where a sports show. But you know, our responsibility is to go out there and find stories that are compelling and are just about life where there's a lesson to be learned where there's, you know, something that provides the next chapter to a story. You know, I think at a certain point the coverage of the parkland snowmen Douglas mass shooting ended, and you know, so people moved on cameras went away the store there were still coverage, obviously because many students have been have been politically active since then, but on the ground in parkland yet when the cameras go away a lot of coverage goes, yeah. And you know, they weren't in the headlines anymore and no for us. It was about, you know, telling the longer story, you know, what is the next chapter. And you know, what was the sports angle for us. And, you know, here's a football coach, you know, who, you know, who gave his life, you know, to try. Save children. Here's another football. Coach who on one day in an instant lost his assistant coach also lost his boss. The director who were both killed in the mass shooting. And you know, we wanted to know we wanted to sort of tell the story of of those relationships, but we also wanted to tell the story of you know, of of strength story of courage story of how do you move on? You know, how do you, you know, take these kids and and push forward in the aftermath of something as horrific as that. We're speaking with Andy Tennant, the executive producer of e sixty which returned on Sunday to ESPN one at nine o'clock eastern time for its twelfth season. And as I said earlier, the show has evolved from twelve to fifteen shows year, you could find them in prime time. We never knew exactly when they were gonna be on when the season was gonna take place was it going to be during football season not during football season. Now, we have regular schedule. We have had for last couple of years. We're on every Sunday morning on ESPN one. When football is not being played and were on ESPN two every Sunday morning when football is being played. So now, we're in the heart of it since the Super Bowl two weeks ago. How did the move from prime time to Sunday morning change the way, you think about what the show should be. That's a great question. I mean, I think for us. It was really always about having a consistent time slot. You know, I think when we were in primetime and often following sportscenter. We were we were leading shows with our our signature profiles of the biggest athletes in sports, you know, bringing our fans up close and personal to these big stars in a way that you know, they they were being brought by our traditional studio shows. So, and that's really how we differentiate ourselves from the rest of ESPN. And also, you know from most of the sports shows that are out there when we moved the Sunday mornings. It was like we finally had the answer to the. The age old question for us is I love the show. I just have no idea when it's on. And so the fact that we're on in some capacity, whether it's ESPN one or ESPN two on a Sunday morning at nine o'clock. You know, it's just for us. It's a great way for people to wake up and to be told a great story that's going to set the tone for the rest of the day or for the rest of their week. And I think we really wanted to focus on you know, who is the audience on a Sunday morning versus who is the audience and a prime time during the week. And you know, what are the metrics telling us what who are the demos out there? And I don't want to dive deep into that. I it did it did force us to rethink the show a lot about you know, what was going on on Sundays. What's going on that we can set the tone for the week? Also, you know, what just provides great content that complements sportscenter which is on both before us and after us on Sundays speaking with Andy tendency, executive producer v sixty and I to say we go back a long way we worked on pieces as reporter and producer twenty. Years ago. And if you did I'm not going to get into any specifics that might be embarrassing to you. And you made some bad decisions about had a little camera time, you gave me some things never change. But you know, we considered ourselves lucky back, then if we got seven minutes for peace that was long TV germs and somehow counter intuitively, the conventional wisdom being that the attention span of the audience gets smaller and smaller over time and digital distractions. You know of made it harder to keep people's attention. All that are are stories. Now, we do twenty minutes stories all the time we do half hour shows on single topics all the time hours pretty frequently as well. There was a time. When people said that's too long for TV how did that philosophy evolve? Where there's almost no limit to the time allotted to a story. Listen, I I've said this before I think thirty for thirty was the game changer. In fact, you know, you as to how you know, it was the most significant change between prime time and Sunday morning. And a lot of it is the length of the pieces. You know, we just we'd go more in depth. We dive deeper into these stories and into these characters because we're on every week because we're on every week. But also, I think look when when the show was, you know, the idea for the show was originally being developed, you know, you know, a lot of executives here were were saying, you know, more story shorter stories, you know, look it within that hour to get like six or seven stories at like six to eight minutes because of the attention span that you were speaking of and, you know, then thirty for thirty at it's really just the executives attention. That's right. But then thirty for thirty came along, and they were telling stories longer than anybody else at ESPN and the response was overwhelming. And we started to look at ourselves as storytellers and say, you know, you know, maybe we don't have this. Right. Maybe maybe shorter isn't better maybe longer as better. And so, you know, we really spent a lot of time think rethinking things considering the success that our colleagues there had and an I think it's really been a game generates has such such a significant impact not only on how we tell stories, but on how you know, everyone tells stories across the board sports, we're speaking with Andy tendency, zek, your producer of e sixty which is on of course, every Sunday morning at nine eastern time on ESPN. It's twelfth season. Just under way, there's a lack coming up this year. There's lot coming up this season. But but more important than just promoting the show, which is kind of the concede here. I want to ask you. There's some talented people in the show there some great reporters. They're great producers who's the best reporter on the show a bodily. Bob doesn't report a coal. He's a coma. Why he had to take a sabbatical? He needed to reflect not scenario is not a professor you needed to take months V hosts, he's a very capable and our Allah, did, very brilliant. But it's I keep telling him, it's not a sabbatical. If you're not a professor, it's a vacation, well, considering he's now giving the commencement speech. At Seton Hall in in may, I mean, I think there is an honorary degree that goes along with says, there isn't don't believe he's not shown up if they're not giving him some kind of decorate we should have him on next week to talk about this. But that was very adeptly handled. I'm impressed. Andrew ten in is the executive producer of e sixty back every Sunday morning on ESPN ESPN one at nine eastern time. Any thank you for keeping me on the show. I appreciate it. Thank you. Jeremy was was in any way, this better than a Harvard Cornell hockey game, I play obviously, I just watched those games those laws reaction's going Cornell beats Harvard on the ice. So let's say that we worked for some Harvard guys don't like. This is the sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. There was big news earlier this week in the international human rights community in the international soccer community. When the Bahraini soccer player Hakeem Alaraby was finally freed from detention in Thailand after being there for seventy days. He had been picked up by the Thai thirties on an INTERPOL red notice requested by his native Bahrain in which he is deemed a criminal human rights community the soccer community coming together demanding his release, and that he'd be allowed to go back to a stralia where he is a refugee and has a legal refugee status one of the people instrumental in the cause to free Hakim joins us now from fief pro the international soccer players association. Andrew or Saadi, Andrew. Thank you for being with us. My pleasure. Jimmy, Andrew you've been right on the front lines of this issue. Do you have been doing all that you could to free Hakeem? When you got the news Monday US time when you got the news, what was your reaction? Well, there are some moments in my career, which you truly cherish. This is one of them because to know that you've played a role to help save one person's life is is something which sends shivers down my spine. And and I'll be feeling that for a long time to come. I think because when I recall all the steps that we're taking all the different actors involved to help get this done. It truly is something that you have to celebrate. Because these moments are few and far between what were the extent of the efforts undertaken by you and others to make sure that Hickey mail arrived. Be was not sent back to Bahrain. I think from faith pros perspective, and as you explained being the the global union for professional soccer. The players we really tried to jump in as soon as possible at the very beginning. However, we noticed that soft diplomacy. Simply did not work. We had more than two months of frustrating issues. One. We thought he would be released then it was the complete opposite effectively buffering had him in an iron grip. And the conclusion was that we had to solve this through the government's as much as football and the international football community has been great the sporting community at large all the human rights groups who jumped in we in the end had to deal with the governments of rain, Thailand and Australia to get this done. And what I tried to do in this period was to stimulate huge interests in terms of international media. I contacted directly many football players around the world, and we were successful to get a whole range of embassador onboard. From Joe Joe Kelley any the captain of Italy. Eventers defender to did the drug many known him well from his days at Chelsea the ivory, and strike all these people one by one Jamie body, the England striker started to get into this issue as we started to really push it amongst members and the one two point. I thought that really struck home that really made everyone understand the gravity of the situation was the moment of footballer was dragged out by the title. Authorities banned foot with his feet shackled in front of the world when he was taken into Bangkok's criminal court for his extradition proceedings when that happened. That's when I realized they had really taken on a life of its own, and it's goes to the different level and the pressure was I think just too much to bear for all concerned in particular, the government's bothering and Thailand, we're speaking with Andrew or Saudi of feast pro about his efforts, and the efforts of others which proved to be fruitful to have. Akeem released from detention in Bangkok returning home. Now, as we speak to Melbourne Australia where he is refugee where he plays soccer professionally. He is considered a criminal in his native Bahrain. It's my understanding Andrew that from the beginning. He should not have been detained because he is a refugee, and it mounted essentially a mix up a clerical mixup that allowed him to be picked up in the first place. Indeed, this issue, transcends sport. It was an issue of human rights in the end. It was indeed an issue. I think all refugees if you are afforded refugee status, which came out, our I be was in Australia. He should be able to rely on international mole will the internationally recognized human rights and everything that means in order for him to travel safely around the world. He took some. Advice we understand, although it's very difficult for me to clearly 'Satan what happened in this process when he was preparing to take a trip to Bangkok with his new wife, then we're going there on their honeymoon who he spoke to in the government or whom he spoke to in the Australian government to seek travel advice to understand whether as a refugee Recife him to go there. Now, he was like to believe that it would be okay. Don't forget as a refugee. He doesn't have a citizenship in Australia. He had to apply for a Beezer with his Baca impossible to go on vacation in Thailand. And then it triggered a whole series of events. So that means the tile reteach knew he was coming. He they even sent it back to Australia to say, okay? It's going on a visa wearing aware. It also went the other way to buff. Ryan from Thailand, it's like this guy's traveling the refugee does that mean and a whole series depends. What triggered whereby that meant by rain. If. Learn for his arrest with the help of INTERPOL the INTERPOL red notice. But if you look at that in isolation into pole this also needs to be investigated and also the role of your striking police and everyone involved because an INTERPOL red notice and arrest warrant cannot be issued for someone as refugees. Nice. It's so if you think about all those different elements. It was clearly cool. It was it was clear that this was a complete mess from start to finish. The great news is is that it's going back to his wife, and we can celebrate in the end, but everything that's code. In. The meantime is an acceptable needs to be investigated in order for this to happen again before we let you go two things that I wanna discuss one the importance of the efforts of Craig foster here for more Australian soccer star and to CFO and the extent to which it got involved the extent to which it was reluctantly involved. And how it's. Fluence did or did not play a role here. Let's first talk about Craig foster. Well, Craig foster festival. I'm proud to call him, my friend, and we have a very strong relationship. But it's a pick this up after it became an Australian full issue, not forgetting their Hakim. I'll awry be is playing in the second division in Australia in a in a regional team in the state of Victoria in in the city of Melbourne. That's where it all started. So sort of your into book community became hugely invested. And Craig is one of the most influential figures in the games that I not only is a former national team, captain, although stralia he's played abroad in countries such as England for Portsmouth and Crystal Palace has respect and he has a platform. More importantly, he recently, even ran for the presidential election in Australia the Football Association's, so he's a he's a he's a gentleman who is very principled firm in his belief that he will succeed and that competitive edge that he carried threaded. Professional career is clear and everything he's done since maybe business six now recently study lawns about to graduate there. So this is a guy who really takes himself seriously, and he really pushed this through to degree which was unprecedented and then safer now, Craig, of course, was one of the first to really call out a home range of people around this, including Gianni Infantino, the president's the things the secretary-general Fatma Samora who does have a previous career at the United Nations. I might add. So she understands the shares and she was willing to accept Craig at their office in Zurich recently just in the final week or so leading up to her canes release and all the while you we've off so some serious questions of us as a game as an industry, and what does it mean for CPA and football to apply maximum leverage to help a person in the now, this is a footballer and in this case football being the world's. Biggest sport was was cold onto dry and hill. Gianni Infantino in my small. We're cold on to apply maximum leverage under the safer human rights policy. And of course, they would gaps there because Gianni Infantino all the way through to speak publicly shake someone who is the rainy f I president is also the president of the Asian Football Confederation. And also a fever vice president who's currently standing for reelection at the Asian Football Confederation he recused himself. He said he could not be involved in this issue, citing a conflict of interest. And so when we look at those key elements, we ask ourselves clearly as an industry, did we do everything to protect this one person. I came out at I B and under the for human rights policy. Have all the stakeholders upheld their duty to to protect these people, and it's not just fever all the Asian Football Confederation. It goes further to the football associations of Bahrain, Thailand, and Australia and all the others close to. So we have to look at this. We need to take time to reflect and we need to ask ourselves has football done its job in in a manner, which we think is consistent with the human rights policy. And we'll look at that once the dust to settle congratulations. Andrew on the release of Hakeem Allah. V who is heading home to Australia where he's a refugee as we speak after seventy days in detention in Thailand, Andrew or Saadi is an executive with fief pro the international association for professional soccer players instrumental in the efforts to free Hakeem in Thailand. Andrew thank you so much for having joined us here in the sporting life. Now, thanks very much. Jeremy I'm just said say it's finally here that there was a great deal of respect amongst the whole range of of groups who've been following the work of ESPN and ios in particular, especially after the the report you you put together for sixty in two thousand sixteen on. On the issue involving athletes over one hundred fifty who've been allegedly detained and tortured in buffalo Ryan, and some that work and the work that you do what he has spent really makes the difference in and I want you to understand if it were not also for the international media in this regard, someone like how came out I b today probably not be going home. So thank you as well. I appreciate that. Andrew. Thank you. Let's speak again soon. Okay. Thanks. The sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Route black history month on our show. We are honoring pioneers pave the way for today's athletes and coaches just over week ago. The baseball world lost one of its most respected embassador 's a great pioneer the first African American manager major league baseball Frank Robinson. I had the chance to sit down with Robinson in two thousand fourteen for an outside lines feature which begins with the words of Jackie Robinson, one of Frank's greatest heroes here now is an excerpt from that store, I make family proud and pleased via the afternoon, but must admit I'm gonna be tremendously more pleased and more proud. I look at that third. Baseball line one day and be a black faith matting and baseball ten days. After Jackie Robinson spoke. Those words the man who broke baseball's color barrier died at the age of fifty three his hopes of seeing a black manager unrealized but two years later in September nineteen hundred. Seventy four sleeve Lind Indians general manager, Phil Segi invited newly-acquired slugger. Frank Robinson in his agent. Ed Keating to his office before I could sit down real good. They'd said they want to the manage the club. I was stunned and feels Agassi. Yeah. We want you to manage the club. We want you to play a manager. I said, wait a minute. You want me to do both of them. He said we're gonna pay you two hundred thousand dollars. I said I'm supposed to be paid one hundred eighty thousand dollars to play next year. So you only gonna pay me twenty thousand dollars the managers club next year. He said, that's right. Take it on leaving Robinson says his agent took him out of the room. He says this is a chance for you to break that barrier now open the door, and let more African Americans have the opportunity to come through it. And I thought about it that way I said, I'll take the bullet. Let's face it. You're black. You're the first black manager in baseball. What is this duty your head nothing? Matter of fact, my head size has gotten a little larger lately. But only because my let my hair growth being the first it was a real thrill live it sunk in. I knew it was going to be an awful lot of pressure a lot of expectations and a lot of unhappy people because when things went right fine. But when things go wrong, it was going to be doubly bad because maybe in the first black manager. But that didn't bother me I taken challenges before in the past is a player. When you're a rookie in nineteen fifty six the Cincinnati Reds. You couldn't stay in the same places with all your teammates. No, what was it like at that time? It was rough. I play the half a year in other news first time, I've been away from home, as you know, a seventeen year old and went to the movie one day 'cause I love movies, and the way they mind, but my up on the counter van the glass and the latest said, we don't serve your kind. I it. What's my kind? He said, we don't serve black people can't come in this movie. I was crushed and spring training in one thousand nine fifty five Robinson would for the first time knee Jackie Robinson than really a chance to talk to him because I was a shy kid in those days. But I did get a chance to talk to him when he retired the pollen near very lightning worried about you conducted yourself off the field and you carry on the legacy of African Americans as small keeping those claims actually what he wanted to do. What do you think the significance was then you broke the color line for managers almost thirty years? It was nothing compared to let Jackie did what he went through. But it was important because I was the first and that meant the doors open, but how long ago would stay open dependent on basically the way I conducted myself success that would have. The Indians improved under Robinson and had a winning record his second season. But after a slow start in nineteen seventy seven he was fire. He did manage the giants. And with your heels was named the thousand nine hundred nine American League manager of the year Robinson later became the last man to manage the Montreal Expos and after they relocated the first manager of the Washington nationals in his sixteen seasons as a manager Robinson's teams never reached the play offs. Your team was never never never. So I was very proud of what I got out of the teams. There's only one African American manager major league baseball. There were three the beginning of the season. Now, there's only one. What do you think about that? Well, I don't like the numbers, but I don't have any problems with that. Because I think baseball now is at the point the where they look at the performance of the team and see if the managers getting the most out of the players, and if you're not doing she going to be like, oh, the one and only Frank Robbins. For his part Robinson was elected to the hall of fame in his first year eligibility nine hundred eighty two seven years after his first game as the Indians managed. That is pretty good into vantage. Especially in the big moment. And it still is their big moment special. You're the only person to win the MVP in both leagues. Triple crown in nineteen sixty six the first African American manager you were awarded the presidential medal of freedom the highest civilian or in this country. What is Frank Robinson's legacy? All I know is way I've conducted myself in my lifetime so far. And I have a few more years will continue to conduct myself in the right way. And try to set an example for the young people this coming along after them. Frank Robinson spent his final years giving back to the game that he was so passionate about serving as a special advisor to major league. Baseball's Commissioner Frank Robinson died last Thursday, February seventh he was eighty three years old. 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