The Mighty Oaks Show Episode 051
You're listening to the mighty oaks show broadcasting worldwide from our studio go in southern California. Equipping you with a tools and resources to find victory in life's battles and now your host Chad Robichaud and Jeremy Stole Necker. Hello and welcome to the mighty Oak. Show glad to have you with us today. My Name is Jeremy Stall Necker the executive director of the foundation nation and looking forward to a great show today with the great guest and as we get started. I'll remind you as I always do and I'm sure you're always paying attention but I wanNA remind you again if you have not yet subscribed to our youtube channel. Please do that. Some of you are listening on a podcast. Or maybe you're listening our partner station at Mojo five. Oh so if you're listening to their take some time later on to jump over to youtube you can look us up the mighty oaks show and we'd love to have you subscribe. Hit the notification bell. They'll let you know a new shows. New episodes come online and then share out the content and that helps us. I think they'd help others as well. It's our goal every time we do this show and every time we put content out there to provide resources and helps to you and to those that you care about and trust that this will be a useful help and resource as you go through life looking forward to our time together today today. Our special guest is Jason Guys and Jason is coming to US remotely today. Jason Served Twenty one years in the United States states army and telling him. We're an equal opportunity nonprofit so even those who served in the army have place at my coach. Were they for that Jason is involved in a bunch of stuff related to veterans and the just the veteran world and serving others but also and this is how we connected through the mighty Oaks Foundation serves as a team leader for mighty oaks. And it's very involved in the work that we do so Jason Glad to have you thanks for making taking time No you took some time out of some training to To Join US and looking forward to our conversation really appreciate you having me on Yes Sir why. Don't we start at the beginning. Talk about talk about kind of where you were raised and how you were raised. I'm always interested in what leads young people into military service. So let's start there and then talk a little bit about your time in the army and then we'll talk about transitioning out. But where did you were you raised. Where'd you come from What was it that caused you to say? I should serve the United States army so I had a great upbringing in southern Indiana. A little town called Seymour. More very small population out of Indianapolis North of Louisville Kentucky primarily farming corn type community and I just had a had a great upbringing. My parents were together through all of my childhood and just very blessed and went to college. I in probably wasn't really ready to go to college. Everyone else was doing it so I did it and about between my sophomore and junior year I realized that it just wasn't a thing for me and I said what are my other opportunities and one of those was military service. I went and checked it out nope and actually took the asthma ham and Actually enlisted told my parents after the fact. Yeah we're quite assures quite a while how to my parents But you know they were a little concerned. Obviously I do all college and so it's like oh now you're going to take on being in the military and and It was absolutely the very best decision. One of the best decisions. I made my life where What did you do in the army for twenty in years so I did a lot of things? But we're star I did so First Duty Station was Fort Polk Louisiana. And you know the army's he's got all those great great hot spots in the United States spot for sure. Oh without a doubt I was I was a medic in the army and serve most of my time nine and light infantry airborne units eighty second first parachute regiment things like that Did a stint in Korea did a year in South Korea five years or camel and one hundred first Airborne Division and then off to Scofield Barracks White Twenty Fifth Temperature Division and then eighty second airborne division after that just kind of worked my way through in ended up at Fort Hood Between my nineteenth and twenty first year and had several deployments and it was interesting because Not only have come out and appointments. I also had peacekeeping humanitarian minute -Tarian two points in Central America as well as I was in Kosovo when September eleventh happened. What are worse so it was a very diverse background in army field medicine but I loved every single minute of it yes Where did you come at opponents? in Iraq for fifteen months early Early in the war and We were actually the bridging Infantry Brigade tasks worse that was the hand off between First Division and fourth. Id in that very first hand over between one and a half to So it was an interesting interesting time. I was north west of Palooza Sunni Triangle and We replaced the one seventy third. Everyone comments him Italy So it was interesting time but That was my main stint in post. Nine eleven. was that fifteen month to earn Iraq and everything else was just little things leader recons is an Afghan Pakistan and some Kuwait type missions re conning units going over there to be medically validated So I just really count the Iraq. Lack appointment is my primary point that to combat for post nine eleven. A lot of folks in and you know this you work with us. But a lot of the men and women who transition transition out of the military particularly they have deployments behind them and along to one. My Dad is credible time They tend to bring in some things home that they then later on. Have to deal with and I find that it's much more difficult to deal with those things out of uniform that in uniform do you have challenges. I'm sure you did that. You'd be willing to share with us as you transitioned out of the military trying to figure out what the next steps were for you. Yeah You know okay. You're you're exactly right when you say You kind of compartmentalize a lot of things that you experience in. It isn't until you make that transition that a lot are those boxes. Start opening up in you. Don't have the tools in your toolbox to be able to deal with those and a lot of times we reach for a lot of different things or we go down the va route and medication and The sad thing is is we. We don't Look to our faith and in our belief in Christ to to kind of be the starting point a lot of times. It's one of the last choices that we make unfortunately but it was is the same for me I. I started to have a lot of anger issues. It was affecting much family Allott and drove a big wedge between in my stepdaughter and my wife and I told myself and my wife that I was GonNa do whatever it took to to get better and to make things better with with all this all these things were opening up and I wasn't ready to deal with from by time down. Range what What was your relationship with God like while you're in the military military? Were you a believer in the military and transitioned out into that later. I I was when we were when I was in the military okay but I wasn't an active participating believer. I was a Christian but I wasn't really in a walk with Christ it wasn't until towards the end of my career That I was I was a little bit more on that right. Track in it definitely was after Coming to mighty oaks when I was at you know at my lowest point that I was able to actually start a walk with Christ that actually helped change my life and my family's life one of the challenges so often Is Getting folks who need help to come to the point where they say like you you just said he said this to your your wife. I'M GONNA do whatever I have to to figure this out to get better. That is in my estimation as we've done this over it over again that's the biggest challenge is getting someone to come to that point Folks often asked. What do you do during the week? It might young. She had these programs and and men in women come through and so much happens in their lives. What is it you guys do in really what we do? Try to back people into a corner or they have that moment where they don't say that to themselves. They'll say I need to do something different. And you can change the direction of going and often people don't do that until they find themselves in one of our programs or find themselves at that low appoint what was the catalyst that caused you to say that to your wife. What what was it that caused you say I need to do something different and I'm willing to do whatever at? I think it was an incident where my little daughter at the time. She was probably maybe three years old. She had just done on something just something not out of the ordinary for a three year old and I I just absolutely like my response. needs to what happened was just so wrong and so over the top that it actually caused my little daughter's lower lip to start quivering hiring and it just absolutely like destroyed my heart that I did that to my little girl and My wife was in tears and you know nobody could understand. Why reacted the way that I did something that was just so like normal for a three year old? It was just this overwhelming response to a simple stimulus studio and It was it was like that was kind of a defining moment of I have a really big problem and I got out of Salman. I'm going to destroy my entire family and myself if this continues to go down that road. What did what did that look like for you so you had that the moment you made that decision and thankfully made it before you didn't earn it damage? What happened after that? Well Oh you know. Of course I was already seeing the. Va they already. Put me on some antidepressant. That made me like Zombie and You know I had to do that. Back fourth and I think a lot of guys. Maybe you knew. Need an anti depressant. Maybe you don't need a long term but I think you have to have a conversation with through provider in what's the exit strategy and is at the right medication for you because everybody might need something different. So one was insinuating the fight to make sure that I was only taking medication that I absolutely needed to be on the right track in that. It was the right medication for me. And then in addition to that you know I thought counseling. Unfortunately I didn't seek them. Oh counseling which that's where I should have gone But there was some secular counseling. And all this kind of fizzle because it wasn't based an environment wasn't based in in Christ and so when it secular counseling and certain point you just get to this place where it's not going to benefit you any more balanced around a little bit from counselor to counselor. And then that's when I came across mighty oats and actually my nanny came across my years. Both about it at the same time and next thing you know is reaching out and I can see my appetite of this fight. Pronouncements like that's awesome so you attended the program and what was it about that. I'm that kind of helping. Turn a corner. I mean there are a lot of things that happen during week. Like it's always funny. Let me you've had these conversations. It's always funny to me. A what does cost someone decision. Doesn't you know we always think this thing that thing but What was it not the cost you to Kinda turn a corner and certainly in the world of it different? It was a kind of a really tough week for me because I think I went. Is there with a lot of excuses and a lot of nobody knows what I'm going through Panama thing and what I realized was. Is You know that the whole concept of looking at the person beer in realizing the your new can sometimes be a big part of your own problem and When I realized is that we do a great team later that I hadn't justin is that I had some pride and ego problems and I had serious transition. -sition problems from Vienna sergeant major in the army to being a Stepdad husband and just an employee for a company that I worked for as I transition and what I also realized I wasn't in control of really anything but myself and that it was just an extremely difficult week of realization for me but it's definitely a week. It's changed the trajectory of my life forever since Since years at that was twenty seventeen twenty seventeen so since that time You become team. We are in our organization working with the veterans and active duty servicemembers are coming through mighty oaks But beyond that the list of veterans organizations and causes that you're involved in is a is a long long list that a lot of stuff talk about some of the other things that you're involved in. Well what would actually led me too meeting. My wife Jamie was while I was on active duty at for her win in that great High Desert of California. I you the high spots aren't the army management. This loved demands is great awesome places but you know the people on that. The relationship building was awesome but I got involved in a in a brand new non for profit. That's out of Kern County and four post. Nine eleven veterans for Kern account called Wounded Heroes Fund. And it's just an organization where our own community takes care of transitioning service connected disabled post nine eleven veterans and through that organization. Malo is on active duty. In the last were five years I served on the board of directors and I met met my wife through my mother-in-law who was abolished here. And that's really what led me to getting married to my wife Jamie from Baker still and then ending up living here in Bakersfield which then led to you getting involved in other opportunities to serve veterans In in in wide left wounded rose after ten years was to establish an organization called portrait of Warrior Gallery Kern County which which honors the twenty-seven men who have given their lives since nine eleven from my community and we honor them by having portrait painted of them not only in their service uniform but also other things that were important to them and their family and our motto is never forgotten always is remembered. And you know Mighty oats did a really nice rudest word That we have when we walk in the front door. It's sitting on the desk. I really appreciate appreciate it. You guys got behind. What we're doing in our goal is to establish a gallery like that in every county in St l.? Warn you and that's a long term goal And we have twenty of our twenty seven portrait's a complete now in its free in. Its self sustaining financially in its open to the public for our community. And it's just been a really great place to bring our Gold Star family members and keep them in connection with our community as awesome. So where where do people find out and donate support behind what you're doing We're a it's just a matter of going on the Internet and typing in portrait of Warrior Gallery Kern County. There's a facebook page and we have a new website. That's being developed. It's going to be hearn. Dash Warriors Dot word in is a five. Oh One C.. Three in our goal. And I know we've already got a guy that's going to establish the same gallery in San Diego and He was one of the artists that was involved in a gallery here in Kern county And we actually have a expert package that we're going to be delivering to each county's board of supervisors supervisor's so they're going to have every in need to establish what they want to do for their community but we feel like being able to see someone's picture helps keep their memory alive A lot better than a name on a wall or a name on a plaque. You know somewhere hang in a building. So that's that's been really good. It's it's just a great organization by wife Super Involved in it our communities one hundred percent behind it. We've had over six six hundred thousand dollars in donations in like I said it the way that we designed it with annual recurring sponsorships at self sustaining financially. Then you go ahead. I'm sorry go ahead of getting wrote up you later. Okay you know. There's some other things that that I've Kinda gotten involved involved in an in one thing that I want to mention to. Everybody is one thing we do talk about at mighty oaks margin in imminent. Seems like like I'm involved in a lot of these organizations. What I've really done is help people that had a good idea in help them take that idea into action and of course they always asked me to be on their board and I just tell him? Hey I dislike to help you get going because I think it's going to make a difference in our community and so it seems seems like it's more than what it really is bad. There's lady in our community. Just Army nonprofit on pulse comrades in basically what that does is helps Family members of lost a servicemember through a suicide worth something after their service the net to Organization the tragedy assistance program for survivors or baths and with simplisafe mother of a fallen servicemember. He died after his service Davis She's been over forty people across the United States to assistance that they didn't know it was available to them in their family and And it's also a great way for discipleship too. Because she added that accident of Fryer said she can. Have you know talk have Bible verses and things like that on her website right and that's just been an outstanding opportunity for discipleship and bringing people together and then another organization that we started up. It's actually in Shandon in California over near San Miguel installed operation hut for heroes. And what we do there is we We've opened it up all areas of service service if you have a service connected disability we bring you out to better water outfitters and we'd say fig for Ram are in it's one hundred pursue funded and if you've never hunted were we thinking to the range and we help you You know maybe learn something new outside and you active again and not. What's sitting around in the house? Isolating yourself and we've had great success without. We have a list of people people from all over the state of California. We actually have okay Seventy one year old yet on singling amputee lei GAM T it. Ready to come through as well. So that's that's been another great organization and then a a lot of people honor flight and we have a very active honor flight here in Kern townie and I I'm getting ready to take my sense light while we have one hundred hundred hundred. Vietnam veterans were taken back to Vietnam Wall April. Seven eight tonight and You know our community is funded over one. Thousand five hundred veterans veterans from World War Two Korea Vietnam and take back to DC in just a short period just very short period of time and Then there's a couple other ones rise up recovery is a new one and there's GonNa be a veteran component to that which which is gonNA help underinsured and uninsured of veterans. Get counseling and treatment In even things like Ted Amine treatment which which can help with Bush traumatic stress as well and so we have a great community here in Kern County. It's not the biggest town in California but I think it's in the top ten but I've never seen a community is doing more for its veterans impoverished people. Step up in in create organizations that serve Our fellow veterans within our own meetings. If you're jealous minhas incredible work There's a lot of questions but I'll ask to the first one. Is this ask. Why is it important trying to think the best way to say this? Why is it important that we remember those who have served our country and have been killed in combat Obviously a lot of money. A lot of energy lifetime on focus is going into that museum like that in every county. California is what an amazing goal Why is it important that we remember and I think a lot of people miss this? I think what's important is we. Ah We're connected to the person that was killed. Of course we remember that person's but we don't we don't realize is all around us are gold star family members family members who have lost a son or daughter a husband wife mom or dad and uncle and aunt in in. We don't know sometimes in our own community. Those people people are in by doing something like this were were educating children. Were showing them the true meaning and sacrifice what freedom and our country. This is all about in in that. This doesn't come for free and that they can be in the gallery in our gallery for example talking to the mother of one of bar fallen soldiers. And how does that impact that family. In what can we use in community to wrap our arms around them and show them. You know the same love that Jesus Jesus shows us and and to make sure that they understand that we just never thank them enough from the sacrifices that that their loved ones made by giving their life for our freedom when you talk to. I'm sure a lot goes our families. MOMS and DADS brothers and sisters who've lost a remembers what's What's it common theme? What what did they want people to know about their family or their loved one who gave their life for for freedom? I think that you know. Of course they want people to know that they serve our country and whatever service that they were in but I think even more important is they. They want people to know what kind of personality that they had. They want people to know you know that they were a Christian. They want people to know that they love the play soccer or basketball or what impact that they were making in our community our impact in already made in our community and a great loss that we have that they're not appear to continue on those things that they could have done in the future and I just think that just them being able to talk about their son or daughter or whatever for Hillary that he Fallen Servicemember relates to them. So I think that provides comfort in healing to them and it also preserve floor in each the memory and fallen Soros number live on C.. I think it's on the other side of this equation. I think it's is also really important. Not just to support those who have lost a family member but for Americans to understand the sacrifice that that is made for the freedom that we enjoy. I think we're often so disconnected from what it takes to purchase and preserve the freedoms that we have apt do things that we then take it for granted because we just don't we just don't fully understand it and seeing a picture of a young person may not a young person and lows overdue has served as paid that prices. So I'm not for my kids. I'd take them every opportunity. I have to see memorials and statues and pictures of those who have who have fought for our freedom. Because it's just that important to understand that I think that's a great point. Well you know over one million sixty seven thousand Americans have given their lives for our freedom since our country was founded and we have one point. Eight million veterans veterans in California. And just in my county alone. We have forty five thousand veterans. So it's just a there's just so much so much to be learned. I totally totally agree that People absolutely take for granted what we haven't how great our country is in. Its through all that sacrifice as we'll miss you. You know that type of work so important we can't let people forget Okay so my second question. It's like so just ask four bucks out. You're saying I've asked we asked my second husband is actually my fifth Why is service to servicemembers so important to you? Someone has turned from twenty one years as an active duty soldier. It's a theme again and again and again at you you know you're not gonna live in this world. We see this is but why is it so important for those who have served continue serving in ways similar to the way that you're doing well I mean from a Biblical perspective active it's Servant Leadership Right. I mean God calls us to to take care of one another in but you know from a servicemembers perspective. I think as long as subserve it's in our DNA it's almost like our DNA was changed that we want to. We want to feel a part of those who served served those who are serving or those who have served in by you know saying what can I do to hell and what I see is if all of us did a little a bit then everyone would have to do that. Much in everyone would be taken care of. But you know we're not we're just not quite there yet and so I think it's just a It's just too I think it's who I am and I just I know that it makes a difference For people and it makes me still feel like serving as I was serving military I was I think. For a lot of servers numbers to it's it's a big part of their their healing and their ability late in forward is is looking away from their own situation and their own struggles and finding others who are struggling in order to help them. I agree a total. You've been doing this for a long time. So you serve for a long time you serve others for longtime way M- you have have a struggling servicemember and we try to make the point hall. It's on a trauma and trial. Difficult is not reserved for those who have served in the military and so You know our audience would be able to have served or no people have served maybe just people who are interested but people and people struggle as you have talked over over the years to struggling people. I'm sure you don't just about every situation that we can imagine but when you sit across from someone who may say something like I. I had the hope I don't know what to do. I've ruined my relationships to the point that they're beyond repair I. I don't know where to go from here. All these things that we hear A. What is that piece of advice or that thing that you say to them that they just have to get a hold of the urgent about because you know if I'm GonNa hold of it? Things will change in their life. What do you tell them? Well you know I always tell them there is good news and I and I lead that back to you. Know what Jesus endured for us what Jesus has done for us You you know we can be saved for attorney so one. It's a good opportunity for discipleship and but the other pieces that they they need to know that there's hope they need to know. Oh that people have been were. They've been in in making turn it around and they can turn it around with the help of others have been in there. You know maybe not the exact same situation but what we find out is anybody that thinks that nobody can understand what I'm going through the more that you hang around people that have experienced trauma. Were you always realize. Every time that I never thought I would hear that in in you hear it yet or you hear something. That's worse so you know in in seeing being that those people can turn things around and and just get relationships back on track. Just fill well about themselves and have I hope it's really about giving them hope in in saying that really that you'll be there for them if if they need you and but when you say that you you gotTa follow through and I think that's part of that that fellowship that we're talking about a amongst each other in so really it's just laying out that there is a path I hope there is a path to salvation and redemption from wherever they are in their path. That's awesome Jason. Thank you so much taking the time to talk. I'm sure we'll do it again. But and so they've worth you're doing and and look forward to continuing this conversation on the road. Yeah no thanks so much. Are The outpost here at at our Church for Mighty. Oaks is just great and we're getting ready to graduate another seventeen gene Service members in reboot. It's our second class. So that's just around the corner so We we just love what we're doing here and we have a lot of great people that are part of it. Just it takes a team to me. Thank you for having me. Thank you for. Let me be involved. In this raid eight organization we fall Mighty Ocean program. It's just it's real honor. And it's very humbling to the scrooges. Thank you really appreciate it and and Again for those are washy. Go and check out all the good work that they're doing Kern county but You have more questions about my yolks programs mighty audio programs dot Org us our website. A lot of things you can do there you can learn about its place to apply to get into a program just like Jason. Did We'd love to have anyone who has sir married to someone who served Including those in the first responder community would love to You programs perhaps. 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