March 25, Hr 2 Dr. Thomas Kranawitter and Troy Coverdale

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This is mornings with Gail. Fueled BY GREAT WESTERN PETROLEUM. Only thirteen ten. Kfi Yeah not so much. These days as Cova de Nineteen unfortunately has pretty much stopped us in our tracks if not significantly slowing our role Had Mayor Michael Hancock ordering residents of Denver to stay home except for essential travel and limited outdoor exercise? Did this on Monday. The order Kicked in yesterday at five PM continues through April tenth unless extended. Hancock said. This isn't a recommendation anymore. If you're sick stay home. If you're not sick stay home seven. Oh eight now. Thirteen ten K K. A thirteen ten. Kfi DOT COM or. He's with Gail. Fueled by Great Western. Petroleum joined by Tom Christina. Witter Dr Thomas Cranny Witter Founder. President of speakeasy ideas also are prognosticator in chief as I mentioned before the top of the hour Basically sending out an e Mail on the twentieth and Tom. You saw this coming didn't you? I heard you know Gail I always look forward to being on your show and talking with you. What and typically I say. Good morning but I'm not going to this morning. I'm sitting here sipping my coffee reading the headlines about what our Congress did in in the middle of the night and and I've been crunching a few numbers and with this one spending bill. There's one stimulus bill. They just passed it. They are committing to spend more of our money unless be real clear. Every check that gets sent out is a debt that you have to pay. I have to pay all of our listeners. Right now have to pay or our children or a ranch children. This is that that we have to pay. Is this one bill. Our government is spending more than the entirety of the new deal in the nineteen thirties in the nineteen forties. And the new deal. No small thing and the new deal made the economic crisis of the Great Depression much deeper much longer. Much worse for everybody than it needed to be. An our government is doing the exact same thing all over again. Let me ask you a question to play. Devil's advocate here. Okay just because well. It's kind of what I do. What else at this point in time could the government do now? I understand our concerns. I share your concerns about the the. Here's the bottom line. The only thing Congress critters can agree on Republican. Democrat is spending our money like drunken sailors but what about the millions of Americans that are really facing some pretty hard times? Yeah so okay several things I mean we are in A. We're in a very peculiar strange situation right now because because I mean we're we're facing. I want to be real clear I I. I don't want to sound like I don't care about the corona virus because I do I. I don't want to get it. I don't want you know my loved ones to get it. It's a nasty little bug and I'm not downplaying it at all. It's not the only danger we face out there. They're all all kinds of other dangers including total economic collapse. Total personal financial destruction when people start losing their jobs. Losing their homes. Unable to buy the essentials of life they're gonNA find themselves confronted with with immediate threats to their health and their safety no less real than than this virus floating around. So so what else could be done? Well what's the cause of this economic crisis? It's not the virus. The virus has not caused businesses to shut down government policies government. Eds government executive order is what shutting down entire industries entire entire states in some cases So the first thing that has to happen to say look if if you want to be productive and and you're feeling good and you WANNA take measures to protect yourself then by all means you should be free your human being to be productive to do the kinds of things that you wanna do one of one of the singular great problems we have right now is productivity in. This country is coming to a grinding halt. And I'm reminding people you know. Government can send a stimulus checks. And what are you gonNA spend the stimulus checks on if there's nothing in the stores it's the things that you need to live are not being produced and and some people might think well. That's just exaggeration. When no it's not when you start shutting down thousands of businesses across the country Who's going to be producing all of the things that we need for life? So so the one thing we could one thing government can do to stop this insanity of controlling people and stopping productivity happens. I'm sure you've seen the videos coming out of Miami in the spring breakers and it's like party like it's nineteen ninety nine the boats up on the sand bars. Don't we bear some personal responsibility in the action? That government has taken because so many are taken seriously well at the same time I went to my office pulled up the big house right across the street and I saw a couple of guys up on the roof fixing the roof. Right they were they were. They were doing roofing repair good to see some people doing something productive right and they were up there and they had protective. They had masks and face shields on they had gloves on They weren't right next to each other in other words right those guys clearly. They're thinking well. I have worked to be done. I need to do and I don't want to get sick. I don't want to get this virus going to take some measures to protect myself and I think human beings should be free to make that choice What kind of risks they WANNA take. If you're if you're a high risk category if you're among the elderly or you have respiratory problems. I mean by all means take extra precautions. Stay inside stay away from anywhere where you think you might get sick with it. What I'm trying to emphasize is In in the study of economics. There's a there's a critically important concept Of all other things being equal right when you are faced with a choice. A or B. Look the choices are get the corona virus or don't get to the current virus and all other things remain equal. Everything else in your life is the same. Then it's a really easy choice. We do not get the corona virus if everything else remains the same. The problem is everything else is not remaining the same we. We are cutting down everything so the question. What if someone said instead of? Do you want the virus or do you not want to virus? What did they said Risk getting the virus or total personal destruction. Lose everything you have well in. If those were the options I suspect large numbers of people would say you know. I might risk getting the virus That I don't experience. Total personal financial destruction. A big part about the the with with regard to the federal government. Our federal government has been spending our money so recklessly not merely for years but for decades very first thing they should have done rather than looking for new ways to spend it on. Stop spending it on the wasteful ways. They've been doing in the past. Stop spending sending all of our money around the world to other countries stop spending our money hiring literally millions of unelected bureaucrats who are unconstitutional regulatory agencies that come and harass us about how we run our businesses in how we use our property. There's all kinds of that. The government could have done to repeal abolish. Get rid of the weight of government. That's already pressing down on us I'm sure your listeners are familiar by now. Many of the story we have been tire. Warehouses sitting there full of medical supplies that they cannot get shipped to the hospitals. That need them because there aren't enough. Fda inspectors to come out and look at these are trusted medical suppliers. Just ship the stuff. Yeah it's necessary step in a process. I mean you know desperate times desperate measures we. I was reading an interview recently said the federal I believe is the Federal Department of Transportation. They have all these Regulations about truck drivers and you know how many hours truck drivers can drive. And there's all this stuff and they're suspending because they need certain things to be shipped in that requires people to drive trucks arrange transport. These are unprecedented in one of the bureaucrats was saying you know he said it's still it is possible. Some of these drivers might drive much and they might get tired and they might have a wreck and we're hoping that won't happen because we think these drivers are going to use their best judgment right in and practice Driving safely Because they don't want to get an accidents and I'm thinking well that's true. Then why do we have regulations at all where the that's what he said is true? Not only during a pandemic. It's true all the time and so what I would point I would. I would love to see government lift some weights off of US rather than create a whole new series of weight debt. And I promise you we're GONNA see. The debt is going to include the creation of entirely new bureaucratic offices and agencies to oversee all the spending and all the regulations and Streams. Come come attached to this money. Now you set up a interesting paradigm Dr Thomas Cranmer. Whittier President Founders. Speakeasy ideas seven eighteen. Now basically when you pose that question and I was watching Texas's Republican Lieutenant Governor. Dan Patrick last night on Fox says saying that he and other grandparents would be willing to risk their health and even lives in order for the United States to get back to work so you set up an interesting paradigm. Would you rather run the risk of getting Cova? Nineteen keeping in mind that what eighty five percent of the cases are exceedingly mild to and You may even be a or or would you rather just careen into personal economic destruction but I wanNA get back to that freedom to make that choice right. Here's well in view when yes I agree. We are all free to make the choice to be responsible. We know that nineteen There's a lot we don't know about it. But we do know that it's highly contagious. Okay so we have to make that choice to do the responsible thing and you know the Litany. You know the drill Wash your hands. If you're sick. Stay home and the list goes on and on. But what happens if you don't make a responsible choice given the fact that Cova nineteen is so highly contagious. I mean don't our rights and my rights and your rights begin well so so. Here's the thing that point. I want to emphasize this. Not One of US nobody has a right to infect other people. I don't have a right to become a carrier of some terrible virus and forcefully infect you or anyone else who wants to be a thirty percent are and so you know I'll give you an example My parents are not young people and neither of them are in great health. They live in a part of the country. Where there's been very little corona virus I live in Denver Colorado where more cases and so we talked on the phone. I was supposed to go see the last weekend and you know we did we. We we used our reason and we came to an agreement. I'm going to wait to go visit them until all this settles down because I don't want to risk infecting them even though I feel fine. I don't think I'm sick. I don't know I don't know if I if I you may be a symptomatic so you don't want to expose them to the possibility that that's absolutely right. The other thing I've been pointing out you know I don't know if you remember there was. There's this fun movie. I think it was in the early nineties. It had Have Rene Russo and Dustin Hoffman? And I I think the titles outbreak and it was about a really serious pandemic was a fictional movie and in the movie the fictional virus was such that. If you the moment you breathed it in it started melting your skin and you know and you died this horrible death looking within minutes. That's right yeah I think it was just like a horror movie right point. That's not the rotavirus. That's not what we're dealing with. We're dealing with something very different. We're dealing with something where a lot of people can be exposed to it. And and and write their symptoms. Aren't that bad. They're going to recover other people. It's different we just don't know and there's they're in is the source of individual responsibility. You make the choice How much how many steps you WANNA take to protect yourself and preserve your health And along the way we ought not forget that that the economic crisis as the economic costs are just as real devastating I am. I'm genuinely scared what's going happen. All these people losing their jobs and very quickly. They're not going to be able to pay the rent. Paid their mortgage. They're gonNA find themselves being kicked out of their homes That is a public health crisis justice serious arguably more serious than the corona virus itself. Absolutely I wish we could resolve this this morning by the way Thank you for the virtual installment. Last night p known Veritas Fort Collins Carson exploration of the federalist Papers Missing Ya. I missed your wonderful toasting you. Do you know these. Nobody's doing this. Great program that injured Baker Tiles three wells. As of yesterday we have three more meetings. We have two more now and as I said in that so did a little recording and we sent it out what we're supposed to talk about together and I mentioned in there. I said I can't even look to the next to. I don't know what we're GONNA do because I don't know what's going to be open. I don't know what available right. Yeah unfortunately uncertainty the name of the game. Well let's continue the conversation. Dr Thomas Cranham. Later President and founder a speakeasy ideas certainly enjoyed it. Where can we learn more about speakeasy ideas best places? Stop by our website. Speakeasy IDEAS DOT COM speakeasy ideas dot com also Not by our facebook page. Do a quick search for speakeasy ideas. You'll find a robust conversation going on there like it. Follow it and stay up to date with everything speakeasy ideas. Thank you sir as always for your insights perspective certainly do appreciate it be. Well thank you gail. Thank you for all you do. Especially in a moment like this right now you. You're really important to work that you do thank you. I appreciate that seven twenty four now thirteen ten. Kfi The whole sports story in northern Colorado state in the country tune into the whole show weekdays noon to two and thirteen ten KFI K. Hey catch me Dan. Patrick and the DANETTES weekdays nine to noon on thirteen ten. Kfi Koa all right. Take a breath become. Let's put this into perspective. Piece out of the Greeley by Trevor Read. The viruses here weld health not naming towns and cities with cases because the virus is so widespread this as the number of cases in Weld County has risen to eighty four The Third Cova nineteen related. Deaths reported in weld some forty-six now thirteen ten. Kfi May joined by TRA Kover Dale Thirteen ten KFI Koa news director morning Troy. Good Morning Gail you know it's interesting because I think we do have to maintain a sense of calm an perspective here because Well County The public health officials public health officials around the state around the country have said Yeah It's GONNA get worse before it gets better so we shouldn't be surprised that we're seeing more positives right absolutely at a big part of that is because we're seeing increased testing that for all of our discussions about well such and such tests here or in another place. We're seeing increased testing now because the the tests gets are being made more available and as we continue to see this develop. Additional ways of testing are being developed as well so those numbers are going to continue to climb no matter what plays out Or no matter what. The spread of the virus has been just from the aspect that more people are getting tested. That's going to skew those numbers constantly. Oh absolutely and I know this might sound kind of convoluted but given the fact that we have numbers doesn't really make things any different than they were yesterday or perhaps You know ten days ago. All we're doing is recognizing that yes. The virus is spreading but once again it doesn't change the fact that the virus as well health sing is here. We're such a knee jerk now. Has It. Well I'm looking at it another way. I am trying to figure out the best way to put this. But as humans we like quantitative evidence brainers like quantitative evidence and the numbers are that evidence to us and fortunately they could be you know as we said they're going to be skewed in this situation because of the the multiple variables that have played out thus far in the spread of the virus There's there's something about us as humans trying to take comfort in having numbers to to give us information and yet they're not always the most accurate way to do it see. I think we're coming to the same conclusion hair because that was my points and I don't know if I articulated appropriately but yeah we like numbers. We understand numbers but in this particular situation Those numbers could cause a little bit more anxiety than is warranted. Because nothing's changed since yesterday. You know what I'm saying point. Yeah I mean the virus was here yesterday. It's here today and we've been told to expect it so again. It's all a matter of just putting things into perspective really the the number that you could look at that probably would be the one That that is the most quantitative and the one that does change day to day and should concern. You is the number of people that are going into ers. Yes and the number of people that wind up hospitalized because of it and again for multiple reasons we don't know all of those numbers nationwide We that some of them in the in the breakdowns but for the most part We don't know how severe any of the cases are we don't know how how long people are in or out depending on again their their individual situation but those are the numbers that we should be concerned with the most going forward rather than just the confirmed cases because not everybody winds up in the hospital from the right. I mean you know anywhere from eighty to eighty five percent Maybe as symptomatic or just have very very mild symptoms and You know I'm trying to look at the positives Hopefully that leads to herd immunity so that this time next year. We're talking about this in similar fashion. Inform as we do the flu. Let me give you a hard example of what you're talking about. When it comes to the symptomatic were the lesser cases of this a professor at my Alma Mater. Kansas state in the school of journalism and mass comm and his family had been in England part of a study abroad situation for this semester. And when they got back from that trip all six of them were suffering from the varying Symptoms of it. Five of them are okay but Andrew happens to be in the hospital. Hyper ahead because and on a respirator and fighting if you want years old so you know a younger case than you than than what? We've we're to believe but in the grand scheme of things okay. You're talking one out of the six other five suffered community the food like symptoms and the other variables that are there But he's the one that winds up with the most of your case out of it. My heart breaks to hear that. I'm I'm my condolences. My I mean my heart goes out to you troy because when it hits really close to home yeah exactly. Yeah that's numbers. Go out the window right because it becomes very very personal. Does he have underlying health conditions? No no no. And that's part of the supplies of their hate in the case of this family and and you know they they will tell you what front they while they understood what the what the symptoms were and the like. They never expected that this was going to be a fight that they would be involved in Definitely well I certainly hope for his recovery. There's been some pretty miraculous Cases I believe you and I actually talked about one of them. but Yeah so I hope that he's able to beat it. Yep and it sounds like he's doing all right but you know it's it's little by little that statement just like just like any other thing then. We talk about trek over down thirteen ten K. K. News Director. Thank you so much so appreciate All your updates and just keeping us up to speed not a problem Gail. I do want to mention before we sign off Larimer County. Today is holding drive for personal protective equipment you've heard all of the discussions about PT and and the lack of the face masks and the like that have been available. Larimer County is holding the drive today between eight and five at varying locations if you visit the link on our website for the Larimer Department of Public Health and environment. You'll find the information there. Try thanks so much great work. Thank you go preceded. Seven fifty three now thirteen ten. Kfi Thirteen Ten K. K. Preps RADIO IS NORTHERN. Colorado's home for the past high school coverage thirteen. Kpfk a thirteen ten K. K. A. Dot com seven fifty six bass. Unc bears target game coverage lives on thirteen ten KFI K. Business is good Samaritans entertainers. We want to hear from you on no cone now nine. Am To ten am on thirteen ten. Kfi maybe you're working from home. Kids her home from school. Sadly maybe as a result of orders not only from Denver Mayor Hancock but also governor. Police maybe right now. You're sitting there going. I one wonder when I can get back to work. Now as a pull us has suspended. All non-essential medical procedures in Colorado extending the restaurant and bar closure To April thirtieth along with the closure of hair salons tattoo shops much size polars nail salons and spas. Well you might be asking yourself the question. Well maybe had an upcoming appointment. And how do you determine if it is Still on because again Governor police saying this includes all voluntary or elective surgeries or procedures while when it comes to maintaining your dental health that is so very important particularly when we're talking about The spread of covert nineteen. How can I make that connection because your dental health determines so much else that goes on in your body? We're going to check in with the doctor. A bit. Buddy Benson who will differentiate between elective and getting in to see the Dennis at integrated dental. 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