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Out front next worried about Biden, the White House repeatedly bringing up the twenty twenty runner unprovoked why plus new Republicans raising concerns about the president's pick for the Federal Reserve this CNN's K violent or it's more damning comments from Stephen Moore. What's going on here and a CNN exclusive Boeing admitting a crucial safety alert didn't work on all the seven thirty seven max planes steam planes involved in two deadly crashes. Let's go out front. And good evening. I'm Erin Burnett out front tonight, Biden on their minds, the White House taking notice of a man who is now head and shoulders above his twenty twenty opponents. Now, Joe Biden, the former vice president about to speak to a crowd of supporters in the crucial state of Iowa. They are live pictures of the event it'll begin any moment as Biden today intensifies attacks against Trump. Limited to four years. This administration will go down in history. As an advert moment in time, but give eight years of this administration in the White House. We're gonna forever and fundamentally changed the character of the country Biden's attacks, frankly, taking the White House off its game today. The president tweeted about Biden four times yesterday. But today when his top aide, Kellyanne Conway was asked about infrastructure, which was V topic of the day or the White House. She included this in her answer. Again. The question was how does President Trump plan to pavers infrastructure plan Kellyanne? Middle-class is booming now, despite what Joe Biden says he also just sounds like someone who wasn't vice president for eight years, but him aside and his nonsense to say on the subject of Biden since he's hovering over everything. Now, I'm just curious if he's dumped a bomb, Biden cowardice he against infrastructure. He's been in government for nearly fifty years. Why why are the bruise enriches probably? Did you hear the word infrastructure was actually in there? I'm glad I'm glad at got in there. Look again, the question there to Kellyanne was about how Trump would papers infrastructure plan. It was not about Joe Biden, you sort of get the sense that Joe Biden's on her mind. In front of in several times on. How is it on proximate? He's your. It was on prompted Kellyanne. Because no one asked you, but Conway is right Biden is the clear front runner as of now thirty nine percent of Democrats say Biden is their top toys. That's according to our new poll tonight, which puts Biden more than twenty points ahead of Bernie Sanders, the closest competitor and a new poll from Quinnipiac this afternoon. Mir's CNN's results are lead. Sands is out front live at Biden's rally in Iowa so Arlette, what are you expecting from Joe Biden tonight? Well, Erin, Joe Biden, we'll be taking the stage here in Dubuque injustice shore while it his debut trip to Iowa as twenty twenty presidential candidate. And earlier today he was very clearly trying to keep the focus on President Donald Trump going after Trump for his tax cuts saying that he is a president that abuses power Biden has really refrained from engaging with his democratic opponents like Bernie Sanders who over the past twenty four hours has been trying to stake out these clear differences between himself in the former vice president when it comes to policy. Calling outs same citing differences in their votes on NAFTA. And the Iraq war today Biden was directly asked about that criticism from Bernie Sanders as he stopped at an ice cream shop here in Iowa reporter asked him about that and Biden simply said that he is proud of his record, and that he'll be ready to engage with his democratic opponents in those primary debate. What's that? I bait being less than two months away. But this is Joe Biden's third run for president. He's been here to Iowa countless times before, but he's never come to the state as a front runner leading that democratic pack today, Biden did an interview with radio Iowa here in the state and said that he doesn't feel any pressure as as the front runner, but he is going to work like the devil here in Iowa to win. He told a crowd earlier today in Cedar Rapids that no one is going to work harder in Iowa than Joe Biden. Erin arlette. Thank you very much. And I want to go down to Troy price chairman of the Democratic Party who worked for President Obama's reelection campaign and Hillary Clinton's campaign. Our thanks for being with me. So you heard our let going through what Biden told radio Iowa today. I don't feel any pressure. I'm going to work like the devil, obviously. To polls today show him to be the front runner by far. But, you know, the national polls as we know don't matter. What matters is the state. Because that the case in Iowa. Well, I think there's no doubt that vice president Biden starts with an advantage. You know, he is worked our brand twice now in the state nineteen eighty seven and two thousand seven he's got a strong network in the state, and he's going to be able to tap into that as he hits the ground here now, but it's still very early. And there's a lot of people out there. A lot of people. I talked to who are undecided about who they're going to support on caucus day. So I think there's a lot of time left. And I think we're gonna have a lot of fun between now and caucus back. How long this? This thing is going to go on parlementary. Like all we do is campaign whenever governs. That's an editorial note by me. Okay. But clinton. I will caucus Troy when you talk about who won by point three of a percentage point over Bernie Sanders. Okay. He came in at forty nine point six. So obviously, people know him they liked him Biden, you know, as you point out, right? He's been to Iowa before. But the last time he competed there in two thousand eight he got point nine of a percentage point finishing fifth. That is nothing to be proud of the Sanders and others have a leg up. I mean, if you're as well known as Joe Biden. Do you have something to be concerned about? Well, I think that I mean, listen, there's no doubt the Senator Sanders also has a built in advantage from the fact that he has infrastructure still in place from four years ago. But you know, like, I said this is still anyone's race at this point. And I think that, you know, the vice president certainly has strong relationships here from those relationships from his past campaigns. Plus also his time as vice president he made several trips into the state both both in twenty twelve and as vice president. And so, you know, he's going to have a nice a place to start off with from. But there's like I said there's still a lot of time. This really comes down to who's going to build the infrastructure and who's going to put in the hard work voters in every county in the state. I want to bring in Jen Psaki who knows Joe Biden, very well. And was the White House communications director for President Obama and obviously worked on his campaign. So you know, has been, you know, a up close with Joe Biden many over many years Bill Kristol editor at large of the bulwark and founder of the weekly standard. Also with me. Okay. Bill. All right know, and our viewers know your feelings on the current president of the United States. You heard Biden he is he's taken on Trump. He's doing it aggressively. That's his main focus would you vote for him. I don't know if he's going to be the nominee. But I look I think it's smart of him as a campaign strategy one question about Joe Biden said to poor runs really for the presidency successful vice president for eight years, but that was really I'm Barack Obama's coat tails, obviously. And so did he, you know, what do you have a strategy apart from just I'm Joe Biden, I've been here. A long time. I was Brock Obama's vice president, and he does have a strategy strategies to run against Donald Trump not against the other fifteen or twenty it whatever there are Democrats kind of adore them, ignore them. And just take on Trump be polite to everyone else and convinced democratic voters, and he's starting critics strong place that he can be Trump. He can match up with Trump. He takes up all of these other guys. They're nice guys younger people mostly they're going to squabble a little bit with themselves about this detail of policy or who's a little more liberal or progressive on this or that. And I don't think I tend to still be a bit of a Biden skeptic American politics, usually go backwards, you know, and and elect someone who has been around for so long vice president. Before so to speak. But I I think he's running an intelligent campaign so far. All right. So Jen to this point about going backwards and also as a nominee nominating someone older, right? That's not the way Democrats, usually go, right? You spent two campaign cycles on the campaign trail with Obama Biden was obviously there so so as I said, you know, him very well you've been with him. A lot has changed over just these past few years is Joe Biden ready for this. We'll see I think part of what delayed his announcement was that he was talking to his campaign team about how hard this was going to be that this is not going to be a coordination that there are a lot of candidates with a lot of excitement a lot of support behind them. And that the gloves would be off. And they were right. The gloves have been off since the day in. Now, he was running. I think what should be encouraging to them is in the CNN poll and other polls his support is pretty strong. It's also strong under some very important demographic groups, including African American women now that's contrary to what. You may see on Twitter, but that's encouraging for them. I don't think right now, he's running as Bill said this campaign kind of highbrow campaign against Donald Trump. He wants to position himself as being the best general election candidate, that's a strategy. But you know, Bernie Sanders is running a brass knuckled campaign to take him out in the primary you have to get through the primary to get to the general election. So I think it's got to be more than that between now and the primary start, and I expect we'll see more than that. And and you know, Bill, here's the thing. Joe Biden is saying he doesn't want Obama's endorsement Obama sitting this out and to some that may sound strange like the Ken endorsed, Joe Biden and your Barack Obama. But on the last he said, he's going to wait out the primaries, right? Joe Biden says that's fine. I don't need him. However, his new campaign video would use his Obama's voice. And actually something said when he gave Joe Biden in the medal of honor. So here's Joe Biden's video today. Has made me better president he could not have been a more effective partner in the progress that we've made. And then on the stump today. He continued. Here's Joe Biden. We choose hope over fair. We choose unity over division. We true truth over lies, and we chose science over fiction. Sounds familiar because it is. We are choosing hope over food. Choosing unity over division and sending a powerful message. That change is coming to America. Yeah. Well, why is Joe Biden to thirty eight thirty nine percent right now not because he was a Senator for thirty plus years because he was Barack Obama's vice president Bronco baba is extremely popular with the Democratic Party two-term president and he's got to play that card. I I agree with John though at some point, but he can do this for couple of months. Maybe I think he'll stay. He he's built a nice little lead here. But at some point the primary becomes a real primary a real fight. And at some point he has to defend various votes various positions distinguish himself from other candidates. And I do wonder at that point weather, as you said earlier suggest the normal democratic tendency, which was to go younger when you're, you know, the the Democrats who Republicans. Little bow backwards. Obama Clinton Carter John Kennedy, even Franklin Roosevelt think the all the Democrats who replaced Republicans in the White House and the last century the average age is something like forty eight. I mean, they're all that's been the tendency of Democrats. So look all the walls are gone and Trump changed everything. And who knows? But I I think I think by up to a good start. But I kind of Jason needs to have a pivot at some point where he explains okay going forward. What's my vision does age matter, obviously, Joe Biden's, only a few years older than than the sitting president? But does does age matter from where you sit what you're hearing from voters. Well. Well, I think what matters is who's going to put in the work, and they want to know that someone who's going to be able to go out there and fight every day between now and the caucuses and fight every day from the caucuses to the general election. And then more importantly fight every day in the White House for them and fight on the issues that matter to them. That's what people are looking for. That's what they're going to be looking at when they talk to these candidates, and they size them up over the coming months. And I look forward to the conversations that islands are going to have with the vice president and all the other candidates that are running so John, you know, obviously, it's purposeful. We choose hope over fear unity over division. Right. Those are exactly the words Bronco. Right. He's doing it on purpose. Is that all good? Or does that carry the great risk for Joe Biden? Look, I think right now he's wrapping himself in the cloak of a popular former democratic president, you always get more popular when you leave office. There's no doubt about that. And he remains very popular among the democratic electorate. But if if an endorsement of a popular democrat would win wins an election, Hillary Clinton would be sailing to her reelection right now, and she's not. So I think Joe Biden needs to be mindful of that and he needs to pivot to what he's about what he's going to represent how he's moving. Thanks for it. He did a little bit of that today where he talked about the fifteen dollar minimum wage and buying into the public option. But I think when voters start to tune in they're going to want more. I mean the poll today was interesting too because he ninety seven percent of people knew him only fifty one percent knew about his policies. So he's going to have to define that. So that they have something to bite into when they're really making a decision down the down the road when people are really tuning in post. Labor day. All right. Thank you all and next more controversial comments surfacing from Stephen Moore. As a growing number of Republicans are raising serious concerns about Trump's pick for the Federal Reserve. Comments like that sheer? Don't make me happy. I'm sure they don't make you happy either. Plus a rare moment in Washington between Democrats and President Trump. We agreed on a number which was very very good. I mean, it was it was all wonderful things. Platitudes what's going on? And then. It is time for us to address the ugly stain of slavery. That is a part of our history. Our reparations becoming the Democrats litmus test. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Our friends at Zanny optical offer, a huge variety of high quality stylish frames and state of the art optics starting at just six ninety five. 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Officiant if it quote simply required every American household to write a twenty dollar check to the radical feminist group of its choice comments like these have Republican senators like, Marsha Blackburn. Not happy. Comments like that? Sure. Don't make me happy. I'm sure they don't make you happy. Either. Dave. He is the nominee will guarantee you one thing. This is something that will absolutely come up in that conversation. Absolutely. Okay. Jodi, Ernst says she would be unlikely to vote for more if he were nominated, and it isn't just women, nor should it. Be just women who would be incensed by comments like those Senator Lindsey Graham today describing Moore's potential nomination as very problematic. Moore told CNN tonight that he wants to sit down with all of them and say, quote, I'm not anti woman. Montage was out front mono. How much trouble is more in significant amount of trouble? He is actually not even been formally nominated by the White House for this position. But already the publican senators are saying don't even bother sending up the paperwork to officially nominate him because the chances of getting confirmed are incredibly slim, that's because there are fifty three Republican senators they would need to lose. No, more than three Republican senators in order to get his nomination through and already ward them three or signaling significant concerns, you name some of them, including Joni earns to communicate with the White House that you'd be unlikely to get confirmed if he does actually get nominated and other Republican senators are saying that they will be unlikely to vote for him. Now Moore told CNN tonight that he does not plan to step aside at the moment. But ultimately, this will be a decision Erin for the White House. What do they wanna put the colleagues through this kind of fight which more would undoubtedly get scrutinized for his writings and Republicans have to take a tough vote because Democrats are signaling that they are going to vote in unison against his nomination. And one key Republican Senator John thune, the number two Republican told CNN, you have to know you're going to have to you telling the White House, they should know that anomalies we'll get this kind of analysis or scrutiny. It'd be helpful. If they knew that before they nominated. These individuals. All right. Thank you very much. I want to go to Joe Walsh, national fares correspondent the nation and rob asked Torino member of President Trump's twenty twenty reelected visory council. Joan these comments from more. This is the I I've. No long time. I've never personally heard him speak this way at all. But this is over many years. It's extremely consistent. It's disqualifying. It's absolutely disqualifying. I think that we will see his nomination not come to fruition. I, you know, let's watch Twitter tonight and tomorrow, I think even this president is going to have a hard time with that. But I just have to say I think Steve Moore has been trying out on TV and in op Ed columns for this job. And he impressed the president before his willingness to just back him whatever he used to be a deficit. Hawk deficits are terrible now deficits, you're fine. He used to be a hike interest rates under Obama now. No, the the whole fed should be gone. They should lower industries under Trump. So he's been looking for someone to do with bidding. And he thinks he found him. But I don't think this is gonna work. I mean, just remind people some of what more said another column this from two thousand complain about his wife voting for. Democrats writing quote women are so malleable, no wonder, there's a gender gap. And then there are things like this on this show. I and most Americans love a woman who stands by her man. That's what a wife should do in standby. Her husband. I wanted to make sure we extended it. So you could see my reaction to that. Rob. Thought of that is that a husband should stand by his wife to good one route. Yeah. There you go. Okay. Here's here's the thing. How does this happen? That they even get to this point. Right. They come out they publicly say they want this guy. They're going to put this guy out. They're going to end. And you know, this is all sitting there. Will I think they properly vetted somebody before they put him out here? But having said that the question comes down to fifty three senators, or at least fifty in the Republican rank and file find this to be so onerous find it to be so terrible that they would not vote for somebody who based on his background is very qualified the club for growth is a very mainstream conservative economic think tank, which he started most of these senators, I would guess all fifty three have had interactions with not just Stephen Moore. But with the club for growth throughout their careers. So he's not out of the mainstream on economics. He would go, and maybe disrupt the fed a little bit. But he's be one of seven. So he wouldn't be the deciding factor do something silly like the gold standard. But yet if this is your economic view, then you have some serious issues. And I mean this. The male needs to be the breadwinner of the family, and one of the reasons I think you've seen the decline of the family not just in the black community. But also it's happening now in the white community as well is because women are more economically, self sufficient. Wow. You know? I mean, some of this probably makes him more qualified now your job was open. I was winning for Jones. Open to the family is I look again, I've known Steve Moore for a long time. I am shocked to see all this stuff. Do have to take with some of what rob said in terms of him being qualified. He is a partisan person. He is not an economist someone with a doctorate who really has been studying the economy he has been advocating for a long time. Rob and using the club for growth is mainstream. I call it extremists. But whatever we can about bad. Not. But that does not qualify you to be on the fed. And I think I will be surprised if the president Braves this storm and bushes him Republican Senator, okay? This is a problem. We asked you because John thune points out come on guys do your work before you put these people out here and put us in a horrible position. Right. And other words, take a hike Steve Moore. But my question to you is why do they have a vetting problem? Or did they know about this kind of stuff, and frankly, not care because women is not an issue this president cares about? No, I disagree with that. And I do think look if they if they vetted him and saw some of these and didn't think there would be completely problematic. Some are some aren't some people are going to be able to pooh-poohed and say it was done ingest or humor, some we're going to have some serious problems with it. And clearly, we know which ones those are are they hurdle that he could overcome. I do think he can it's not like Herman Cain where they were sexual abuse allegations. Or misconduct allegation. Coun-? Rob though, he says he wants to sit down and say, I am not. What was the exact words here? I'm just looking here. I'm not okay. When when he says, the male needs to be the breadwinner, and the reason you're saying they decline of the family, and it's happening in the white community is well, it's because women were economically self sufficient, and I I don't I don't understand rob. How one can recover from that. I was sitting at the C span. So wasn't a joke. That's a. I mean, that's a focus on the family. That's a that's a kind of right wing, mainstream right-wing point of view. But that's really not something. Economists should be advocating overlooking. We're making it sound like every. No wonder there's a gender gap sent rally feminist group of Choi choice don't pass through the violence. That's mount. Do you think that a guy can sit down, and yes, sure, he's he's a likable guy in person people suddenly say, okay, you know, water under the. I think they're going to be more. They want to explanation on what he has written in what he meant. But they're going to they're going to want more information on what his policies would be. And that's what he'd be doing on the fed to say that the Federal Reserve Board nominees of both parties are not political is a joke. Every one of those air every one of those appointees came through the system came through their party. And there's a reason they got the plummets to Plum picks. It's because they donate it to the party or the president. It's because they've come through the party, and they've known people. So it shouldn't be any different for someone like Stephen Moore. Take put aside for a second the things that he wrote it shouldn't be any different that he was picked because he's been bombed in conservative party politics. They sometimes buck their president though. Let's just say that. All right. Thank you. All okay next. Breaking news. The Washington Post reporting Robert Muller took issue with the Torney general Bill summary and told him directly. That it failed to capture the quote, Tom Tech's nature and substance of his investigation. This is just breaking at this hour, obviously, a hugely significant development that reporters who broke that is out front next and the debate over reparations picking up steam in the democratic primary. Cash payouts. Remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash CNN. Breaking news. Robert Muller raised concerns to the attorney general to Bill bar, and he raised those concerns about the letter member of the bar letter. Right. And Muller said that the bar letter claimed the principal conclusions of Muller report. Right. You remember that that was the letter according to the Washington Post says Muller told bar and his own letter that the depiction of his findings in that bar memo failed to capture the quote, context nature and substance of the Mueller probe out front. Now. One of the Washington Post reporters who is breaking the story tonight, Matt's epitaph ski and CNN Justice department. Correspondent Laura Jarrett, Matt. So tell me what you know, when when how Muller did this when give us the details as you have them. Yeah. You have to flesh back to kind of late March. When Muller ends his investigation, and then a couple of days later, Bill Barr rights, four page letter to congress that just lays out molars principal conclusions than those by bills Baras telling our Muller couldn't find coordination between Trump and Russia, and he didn't come to a conclusion on obstruction. And that's it. I think there were two quotes from the Muller report. So in the days after that, we're still in late March Muller writes, a letter so Bob Muller to Bill bar saying for all intents and purposes, you've mischaracterized my work in this really jeopardizes public faith in the investigation. This summary is in fair, they ended up having a phone call hashing this out even more Muller. Very importantly wants to release more information. They don't do that. And you know, but. Eventually more information is released. Okay. So he writes a letter to bar, and then there's a conversation a phone conversation where they actually speak. Okay. Now. I know you you have a lot more of the letter. So the letter that again, this is a letter Muller rights to bar. Also says quote, there is now public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation this threatens to undermine the central purpose for which the department appointed the special counsel to assure full public confidence in the outcome of the investigations. Matt could you just lay out how unprecedented of a move? This is to come from Muller. Right. Who who's never speaks never says? I wanna talk in a second about the significance is about that. You're learning about it now. But just I the fact that he sent this letter that he said bar was mischaracterizing that he talked to him on the phone. How significant is that? So Muller is just so buttoned up. He barely said. Anything over the course of his prohibition one time, he kind of emerges to dispute a BuzzFeed story. So anytime molar says anything. He thinks about it at great length. And it's of great consequence. And he surely knows putting this down in a letter is going to memorialize it. This is going to become a part of history, and he's for all intents and purposes, disputing how Bill bar has cast his work. I mean, everyone can kind of read his full report now and come to their own conclusion. But it's just a remarkable thing for a guy who is so chain of command. So by the book to go to go outside and kind of question his boss like what are you doing? And do it on paper in a way that he knows it's going to become public. He knew that would eventually happened. So what do, you know, Matt bars response when he gets this letter, and obviously then you know, who chose to follow up the phone call or what happened, but what was bars response. So this is just different people's perspectives. Right. But from the Justice department perspective from Bill bars perspective, he is taken aback. He offered Muller by his account. He offered Muller the chance. To review that four page letter that he sent to congress and Muller decline the opportunity to do. So so Bill bar the way it's described to us tonight is thinking of Benchley, I'm going to release this report. Everything's good. And then he gets this letter and is shocked like oh my gosh. I didn't realize there was this level of discontentment. He then calls Muller. I think as I described before and they talk it out Muller than wants to release the executive summaries for people who've read the report, there's these pretty extensive some are getting of each section roller wants to release those and even suggest some redaction. So it's easier to do but Bill bar doesn't want to do that. He still wants to proceed on course to releasing everything at once. And eventually, that's what happens just a couple of weeks ago. Do you have any idea Matt as to why so Muller is obviously feels that bar misrepresents the nuance. This he he he feels that way. But you're saying bar gave him the opportunity to review the ladder, the bar, summary and Muller didn't take do. You know, why? Why why Malar didn't take it? I don't know. Why Muller didn't take it? I mean, certainly the way the process would normally work. It's the attorney general's kind of decision on what to tell congress, and maybe molar at as we've talked about he's so by the book, he's so chain of command. He figures Bill bars, my friend. He's a Justice department veteran. He's going to handle this the right way. Then it's handled in a way Muller. Clearly feels is the wrong way. And he has to interject. But you know, I'm really just speculating now, I don't know specifically why molar declines that opportunity one final question team at when he takes issue with how bar summarized it. Do you know any specifics as to specific things that he thought were mischaracterize was it all obstruction wasn't on. How collusion was characterized or do, you know any of those specifics? Yes. So for him personally. We don't really know what's beyond the letter and what we've reported in our story. But before this we had reporting that members of his team were frustrated particularly with the characterization on obstruction. They've felt the. Case they laid out. There was so much more damaging and compelling than Muller couldn't make a decision which is how Bill bar describe it. So that was particularly frustrating to members of his team. But as far as what is on molars mind, personally, really only know what is in this letter. All right, Matt, thank you very much. Obviously a hugely significant development in this story. I appreciate your taking the time. Obviously, I want to go. Now, we've got we've got a lot of people here to talk through this because this is an important development. Former Nixon White House counsel John dean joins me on the phone. I John what's your reaction to Matt? And his teams reporting again Muller telling bar the depiction of his findings by bar and that letter failed to capture the quote, context nature and substance of the Muller probe. Pretty devastating report, particularly on the eve of are going to congress to have to testify on this very subject tomorrow before the Senate Judiciary committee. He's going to be grilled he'd better be prepared. Because it's clear he was spending. What the special counsel? Did. He didn't do it accurately. The special counsel has called him on it. And he'd better have some very good answers by tomorrow morning. So. Bar obviously accused of misleading congress when it came to the principal conclusions on another matter. Right. When he was was the. On the central issue of. And I know Matt said it could be because he's by the book. Right. But bar writes the summary. He gives her the chance to review at Muller does not then Muller doesn't like it. And proceeds with his own letter. Why do you think Muller chose to not read it? I think that it was clearly under the regulations his requirement to turn the report over his report to the attorney general, and then for the attorney general's deal with it accordingly, and when the attorney general's dealt with it publicly and inaccurately he called him on it. And apparently from the reporting not only was bar surprise. But the people in the department of Justice were somewhat skunked by the by the result of the special counsel calling the attorney general they realized that he had probably misrepresented their work. And and and now they were involved in this whole mess so bar is spending this he's taking it looks like he's ready to take a bullet for the president on this issue. He's let the president off Scot free. And that's clearly what is the the findings of the special counsel report. We know now. Particularly on the especially on the obstruction close, Paul. Yes. So so when they then have this follow up phone call. According to MATT BAHR, then calls Malar when he gets this ladder and says, you know, we need to talk and Muller says let's put out the principal conclusions which as accurately points out when you look at the long, they are incredibly detailed. They do bullet point. They give you a lot and bar still says, no even though according to Matt Muller suggested at that time reductions that he would include with those principal conclusions. Why would Bill bar say no to that? He wants to continue the spin in fact, Aaron when you're when you have a chance to read the reporting on this on the next step on how now the Justice department is characterizing this whole incident. They're spending it again that it's no big deal that these are two old friends that they're going to get it. Right. And that isn't what's happening at all. And and he's going to have to answer better than he has with further spin. Because Muller is someday going to be testifying on this as well? All right. Let me now. Go to the house speaker democratic congressman from New Mexico. Ben right, Luhan, congressman good to have you your reaction to this reporting from the Washington Post. Bob Muller says Bill Maher got it wrong till bar. Sorry. This is both concerning and not surprising air. This is the problem when Bill bar access the personal attorney to the president as opposed to the attorney general. Of the United States of America. And tomorrow, there's going to be a lot of very important tough questions that have to be asked. And that must be answered. But it also shows the urgency of why the attorney general must also testified before the United States house of representatives before chairman, Jerry, Nadler, and the judiciary committee. Why do you think this is coming out tonight? Right. I mean, this didn't just happen yesterday. Muller's had this issue. They had this phone call is this happened. But obviously Bill is testifying again tomorrow. So well. There's obviously it would appear very fair to ask. If there's a method to the timing of this information coming out. Well, you know, one thing that I always appreciate his good journalism as well and good investigative reporting and ever we're able to be fortunate to learn the important stories of what must be told that matters. But I think we'll probably find out tomorrow morning, maybe a little bit more as to why the timing of this. But nonetheless, this is important for the American people to find out and those are the merits should be talked about. So should Democrats impeach Bill bar? Well, I think that Jerry Nadler, the chairman of the judiciary committee has said that there are a lot of important questions that need to be asked. And what is concerning? Now is that the attorney general has lied to congress not just once but on several occasions, and once we get to the bottom of the attorney general whether it was misleading the congress intentionally based on the conversation and the reporting with the special counsel. Miller's concern with the summary of. The reason you're not going there yet you just want. You want answers before you go there. I'm not going there yet. But I'm telling you, this is very concerning when you have someone that has lied to congress not just once but on multiple occasions, and now there are questions being brought forward as to the intentions associated with that letter. We need to get to the bond with. All right. So the ladder the judiciary committee chairman, Jerry Nadler, who of course, would oversee any possible impeachment proceedings has just tweeted about the Washington Post report in which he says Muller has written a letter objecting. Debare summary of his report because it did not bully capture the context nature and substance of the investigation. Right. That's the quote from Muller's ladder Tobar, Nadler rights. I have demanded the ladder and bar must answer for this Muller. Must be allowed to testify is that now going to be the number the number one, focus and battle for you all that you want Muller to testify. Well, again, I fully support our chairman Jerry Nadler with his approach, and when he has been doing with the investigations, and Jerry has been abundant. Lee clear that both of them should be in front of the committee to testify, and I think it's imperative now that we identify where these lies are coming from. And who was misleading the congress and get them before the judiciary committee as soon as possible. So you are at the White House today, you're with the president that was that meeting on infrastructure, and look there were a lot of nice things that were said that was before this report here are some things Nancy Pelosi Chuck Schumer said when they came out of that room. We just had a very productive meeting with the president of the United States was goodwill in this meeting. We agreed on a number which was very very good two trillion dollars for infrastructure. All right. Is that all now that ancient history now? Absolutely not. It was a very productive meeting that we had on infrastructure that took place at the White House today, and I came out optimistic that we can put together a bipartisan deal with investment infrastructure across the country, but we have many responsibilities. Invest president and not impeaching him. I am still looking at working to pass it infrastructure package that will create jobs across America. While congress also takes its constitutional oversight responsibility serious on behalf of the country. All right can do both. Thank you very much. I appreciate your time comes from Luhan daycare and next. Our breaking news coverage continues. We are just learning. New details about Muller's objections to bars a summary. What were they specifically plus just coming in new pause from Democrats for bars? Resignation twenty twenty candidate will in caster awaiting. I saying he must resign or face impeachment. The case is we gotta find who wrote this. No, we do that. We find the killer. This science defined out. Police used Luminol a chemical which glows when it comes into contact with the iron component in blood that drama, but where was the rifle, and which man was telling the truth for renchik files. The legendary true crime show is now a podcast. Join investigators as they take on the toughest cases with cutting edge scientific tools. Subscribe now with apple podcasts with new episodes every Monday and Thursday, you'll never miss out on getting your forensic fix. Breaking news CNN now learning Robert Muller complained to Bill bar directly about the attorney general's letter the summary in which he described especial council's principal conclusions of his report, the Washington Post. I report that Muller wrote a letter to bar in which he said in part there is now public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation. This threatens to undermine essential purpose for which the department appointed the special counsel to assure full public confidence in the outcome of the investigations. Of course, the letter also said that bar failed to capture the quote, context nature and substance of the Muller probe out right now. Our Justice correspondent Laura Jarrett. So obviously, this is a huge development. What are you learning as to why what was it that Muller objected to in bars for page, distillation or summary? Well, Aaron for weeks, we've heard Democrats complain about that four page letter saying that mischaracterized some of Muller's findings and generally just unhappy with how he rolled it out. And of course, the press conference that came afterwards. Sort of putting the president in the best possible. Rosy picture people have been very critical for how the attorney general has ruled that out. But we're now learning that it was the special counsel that also had misgivings about bars for page summary and thought that it didn't fully capture the full nuance of what we all saw in those four hundred and forty eight pages, obviously, it's very hard to distill hundreds of pages into a four page summary, despite the attorney general trying to do that over the course of that one weekend. And we're learning that not only did he write a letter to the attorney general, but he also had a follow up conversation. The next day with him where he said, look the press coverage here is misleading and inaccurate, and it's not fully capturing the full scope of my findings. And so it's really exposing the rift between these two men who have known each other for a very long time. But also, I am told by senior Justice officials. That bar has been frustrated about the fact that Muller did not reach a conclusion on obstruction. So there is certainly issues on both sides here. All right, Laura. Thank you. I want to bring in Jen. Psaki White House communications director for President Obama Bill Kristol editor at large the bulwark, founder of the weekly standard. David Gergen adviser to four presidents and still with me mats, Petoskey of the Washington Post to of course, I broke this story, David what's your reaction to this? This this news that Muller says you did not get it. Right. Bill bar. Version prize. I would've thought that there had been complete coordination between the two sides. You know, Bill bark testified, I believe that. I believe it was testimony. But he has said that he offered Muller a chance to review the his his document before it was published and and also talk about the reductions and that didn't happen. So to some extent, you know, would say months, Billy, if there were differences, the breasted on and he didn't wanna get involved having said that you know there. There's no question the Mahler letter gives ammunition to those bit skeptical about bar and about what how he was analyzing report mission Bill or or more. Does this change the game? You heard Luhan, right? He was he didn't take any avenue. He was given here on on impeachment. But but this is not a small development this special counsel saying I spent eighteen twenty months of of this country's time. And money. And what you said I said is not what I said when serious Sturdy's try to be impartial bread, the mall report, putting aside bars letter and boys press conference, they have said while there is at least inviting congress to consider impeachment on the obstruction issue. I mean, these not telling them to do it. He leaves it open. That's Congress's judgment to make. And I think bar did six even coloring things. Sufficiently may be that the Democrats very timid that kind of obvious statement that look we at least have to consider this. We're going to have other hearings record say the word impeachment. But I do now think they are going to have to think seriously. I think it is Muller is basically saying look, I knew what I was doing when I laid out these ten charges of obstruction and for Bartik include ahead of time that it didn't mean obstruction, and then to color the way he did and his press conference was wrong. I don't think they'll be a lot of fighting about Bill bar. But that also is going to be a sideshow. This affects Trump fundamentally and one last point certainly or spoke to the White House before writing is four page letter. Don't we know that I believe we do and he spoke to. Them before his press conference. So it's not like bar is acting. It's highly absent from having consultations perhaps with maybe not the president directly or maybe the president directly. So I do think this puts the question of impeachment legitimately leaving aside. Politics front and center for the congress and front and center. And Jan yet. You hear Bill use the word committee. And it's in a sense. It's a fair word. They've got all kinds of reasons for it. But you are not hearing it from leadership. And you know, they got it. They have to digest this now to your congressman Luhan. Right. It was he he wasn't ready to do it. That's true. But I do think that's because their objective even in leadership as too late. The public ace they know that the public is not with them or with the supporters of impeachment at this point. They know they have worked to do to kind of bring the public with them on making the case. And this is the kind of letter followed by Muller testifying which I expect they're going to step up their asks for and their public pushes for that will help them make that case publicly. Especially on the of course, on the obstruction piece. So some Matt I obviously you can't divulge your sources in any way. But could you can text July's us. Why you think this is you know, you've been working in this a long time. But you get this information. Now, the motive of why this is perhaps happening now that you're you're able to get this information. We'll look the thing. I would say on that is that Moeller put this down in writing. This was gonna come out when you do that, you kind of keep book on somebody keep book on your thoughts that you know, it's going to come out Bill bar has right now to congressional hearing scheduled this week tomorrow and the next day if the next day one actually happens, this is something that's certainly going to come up. But those I'm not sure if it would come up before we had reported or not it will certainly come up. Now, though, I think that's about all I can say that that is for sure look this is this is going to be an innocent to seismic shift in terms of the questioning, right? It's no longer people as Bill built. You know, relying on lawyers and interpretation it is now the special counsel himself saying, yeah, I meant something different. All right. Thank you all very much. And our breaking news continues. Stay with us. I'm Biagio Messina. And I'm joke seen we are the producers behind the H N television documentary series unmasking killer. Join us as we explore the identification capture and arrest of Joseph James, Di Angelo the alleged Golden State killer in a special ten part podcast series unmasking killer, all new episodes premiering Tuesday. February twelfth subscribe today at apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. Breaking news CNN learning tonight that Robert Miller Robert Muller took issue with attorney general Bill Vars summary of his investigation sources are telling us that Muller told the attorney general that is initial four page summary of the report did not accurately fully capture the nuance. The substance the context of the four hundred forty eight page report, David Gergen is back and David you think this completely changes the discussion on Capitol Hill. I do not that it leads to impeachment directly via their of the president. Or in fact, they Bill bar. I think it gives though it gives a democrat. I lot stronger position the munition to push now to take their investigation to get Bill bar up there to testify under scrutiny and to get the other documents they need to push forward with this investigation. I think this gives them a lot more strength to do that. And that does change the dynamics David Goggin. Thank you so much and thanks to all of you for joining us as this story develops tonight ahead of bars. Testimony tomorrow, obviously going to change that perhaps completely AC three sixty begins right now.