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With maximum features and versatility find out more at CRIMSON TRACE DOT com. Welcome good Tom Gresham's where there's crimson trace now offers a line of tactical oriented products including open and close reflex sights battle sites and a robust line of rifles scopes purpose built has a great chance as Vincent Vincent Hancock and others who are in this mix right now right exactly Midi and basically it's our role really prepare athletes for world and Olympic competition so you are the United States world that a lot of people don't even know exist yes that's correct actually we have as we speak we have two of our teams arm of the Olympic style shooting the Olympics as a as far as getting the athletes ready you know getting them out so things are shaping up real well for the Olympic Games in Tokyo we have twenty quotas spots security at this moment and now we're going through Bob Gambardella he is the CEO of USA shooting. Bob Thank you for joining us good afternoon how are you I am great and in our world are para team is at the World Championships in Sydney Australia and received three more quotas for the Paralympic Games the governing body of International Olympic Sport and where one of the forty nine MGB's as they call it under the purview of the United States Olympic and Paralympic obviously one of the big stories coming up is Kim Rhody he's already won six medals at six different Olympic Games. What are the chances that she goes shooting Olympics come to mind of course but there's a whole lot more than that and join me right now to talk about that and so much more is by for in there is an I've called it before this Byzantine system of getting slots for the Olympics and our athletes have to go out and shoot in these World Cup matches around kind of the selection by name of our athletes for Tokyo so yeah it's sort of quite a process and then it takes a long time to get through all these selection are shotgun actually at the final World Cup final and we did rather well we have Kim coming home with three medals gold silver and bronze judge it does so I have to win the slots quota slots and then you the selection of the individual shooters the athletes who are going to be going okay well you can never count came out and you know you put her in this situation and she'll find a way to win so we're very confident you know if you want to join us if there's a gun you wanna tell me about that you bought are something that you've been taking out to the range or maybe the stories about him biting somebody to go shooting with you we do about this is being involved in Olympic sport all my life I've been involved would USA VOLLEYBALL USA Taekwondo I worked at the US Olympic Committee of those as well again eight six six talk gun in Israel Pleasure to talk you know there are a lot of different aspects to shooting and of course like minded organizations such as Hillsdale we were up there about two weeks ago we brought a thirteen of our contingent both athletes and staff and all right I just saw I don't know if you even want to talk about this but you saw this release it's very interesting? USA Shooting in Hillsdale College doing this new partnership what is that class well cup or whatever chase me wow in fact I love that it's shooting program at a university because to me got the self defense side of it we have the second side of it we've got that cool guns and gear stuff but why does it get I don't think doesn't get as much attention as it should is international really had a great time in terms of being able to get out on the range shoot with their their leadership their trustees and their donors and our team I guess first of all let's do this when somebody says really USA shooting what is that how do you explain it to them while we're basically a national which included Kim and Vinnie Hancock and others and we just had a great time I really mending together so we think it's as I say I think it's a marriage-made-in-heaven to to get the donations that they're looking for we see ourselves as being they're using and and you know hand in hand with them and I've I've seen a whole bunch of different things but I'm telling you this is something that is very exciting for us to create a partnership with a with a existence there they are they are moving very aggressively when we got to that range where they're currently at it was just incredible to see the the the different the infrastructure they have already put out in their current range and then what are the proposed in improvements so we think as a kind of a partner with them college H- for those who don't know has already has a shooting program to have of course I've not been there you've been there as described to me as world-class shooting facility already mm as we move down next couple years we think that we could bring World Cup competitions to hill especially I think in I foremost shotgun and they have a grand plan in terms of pistol and rifle centers also so I think within time as they continue wins and how do we didn't give those kids those young aspiring athletes you know more opportunities through junior Olympics you know so and so forth one of the things that worked I'm a bad thing has to do with guns goes bang or maybe even twain certainly if it goes clang you like shooting steel eight six six talk guns Olympics how would a youngster in could be even like preteen but certainly young teams start on that path well you know first and foremost their facilities in partnering with them just a great it's just a great infrastructure altogether and it has everything that we would need to be able to run a world of opportunities for kids nationwide excellent all right let's fast forward to the Tokyo Olympics obviously the Olympics get great television coverage the specialty sport shops in town and we work very closely with them and they have just a good group of of instructors I'm S- throughout an athlete's development and so in part we see working with Hillsdale a great mechanism to create a seamless pipeline warden warms my heart that whole thing so that is terrific. ESPN question here if you have a young shooter how to shoot a pistol was amazing you know these things we live for but anyway I think as I mentioned I think it's junior clubs and then how we then start to make connection young kids that they can get into the into the pipeline and little funny story I'll answer your question really quick but we had the NSF here in June and hundred thousand people coming through our doors visitors each year and so we're trying to now take that and tell a story and this is where ourselves and Hillsdale create that backdrop that's really going to be appealing to get it get it more TV time and Bob In the Group at the ISF have been looking at lots of changes AH FOR US here at the USA Shooting Center here in Colorado Springs we have a very robust junior club that is run by Chris Crab who's one of the very young shooter or even parents who said you know my son and my daughter really likes shooting and I wonder if there's a pathway I mean very idea of going to the in the US the coverage of the shooting sports which is actually people have no idea it is a very large part it's one of the major events we're cognizant of not only in shooting but I think in Olympic sport is we got to create you know was we say the pipeline is the lifeline so we have to have really robust program the track and field and and what happened in some at some point they cut off into other sports it's an amazing spectacle and I think that I know there are leadership in SF in addition to our youth program that we have here we believe it or not Tom We have of course we're on the Olympic training center rounds we have over the one of gentlemen bought Mitchell who used to be the CEO at USA shooting many years ago working towards that end trying to how we can as we continue to look towards the and obviously I know you know this but with television convert coverage comes awareness in with awareness you get more youngsters and we were under one tent several other countries and all of our three disciplines of shotgun rifle pistol with together as one team to me that was more one example down there we have about one hundred and five acres of land that we lease from Fort Carson Great Facility we had junior Olympics this summer the Second Amendment and I think we really have a lot of great stories that we can tell the hundred thousand people that come through our doors a year offers along with the Olympic pistol shooters it was a total clash of cultures but boy everybody had a good time they sure did it's great family and I you know I I use shotgun about a hundred and eighty people from the industry and they brought him over for Olympic experience in this great to see this little young kids teaching these guys are in the industry when the US military's elite units and law enforcement agencies across the globe demanded innovation and reliability Abra keep us posted on the developments of what's going on because it's an important story I love what we have some great shooters we have some great athletes and successes what happened for Tokyo but I think that there's a lot of good plans in the in the works for you know Paris and of course La In twenty twenty eight which is really Kinda the hallmark for us they didn't settle they chose six-hour when world champion professional shooters demanded precision accuracy they didn't settle they chose six hour so it's no surprise more and more civilian gun owners are refusing to settle for anything less they're choosing sigsauer firearms ammunition electro optics suppressors look you know in terms more of a twenty first century model so I know that working on that and we're looking forward to see what what would come up it may not entering the pipeline so once again go back to feeding this pipeline yes Yay it's it is it is incredible and I think that you know like take for instance just can't win that stuff well visit gun talk dot com slash win to enter the legal everywhere giveaway presented God i Tim 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Timmy triggers has been enhancing the shooter's experience there's one of which is you know uniforms you know in terms like rifle shoot is we all have kind of each country has the same color and it's really a little bit more professionalized Bob Hi this is Ryan Gresh with gun talk have you ever heard about a gun giveaway but thought I live in a state where I guns and Training Sig Sauer never settle L. for herself and that's why she has issued more than fifteen thousand conceal carry permits in her county she says in Her County Portent winning the twenty medals that we one in Lima it was fantastic so we have a lot of great things going on yeah just Fab- is Bob thank you so much for sharing this uh I don't have a deputy sheriff to signed every senior Olympic junior Olympic Nationals everybody came together as one family it was heartwarming to see that you know we all share citizen in the county to protect them so it is a personal responsibility I love Fresno County Sheriff Mark Why you signed up and find out more you bet at USA shooting Dot Org all right now we are open lines what have you been shooting off state okay so that that was really the regulation so it went long story short it went before the second circuit and then Ah for more information people can just go to USA shooting Dot Org it's obviously yeah located in Colorado Springs I remember several years ago I was there when we put together the action pistol three and a half years jail okay well basically so basically it was limited to only people leaving New York City to go out and George what else do we need to know about this thanks for taking my call it's really difficult for people outside of New York City to understand personal protection is good 'cause I love it all right let's go to George he's from shooters in New York with some news New York state and New York City changed their law in the case of New York state in regulation in the case of New York City is pretty simple I don't think they'll treatment of basically the chief beliefs who said well we don't know what these people are GonNa do if they leave New York City with their handguns you won't let us know and come on back Okay Tom we will and grand this has been great to be able to spend some time with you but we're here we can do whatever we can do for the gun commutes Britt saying she doesn't have sheriff protect everybody so it's up to each person each person's personal responsibility to protect himself home and every single location then they they you shouldn't be allowed to to do that so back in two thousand and L. Change it but the problem was when the second circuit upheld New York city's rule they did so basically only own the written St the other so we must control them you took the words right out of my mouth you've got to remember half paranoid these people are I it's the all we don't know who these people are so we're going to clamp heavy restrictions upon them because we don't trust him in other words they are not us they are ars I know we're the only state that has that kind of situation so a New York City because of its size was able to change their laws come back on tell you about the twenty calories and why I like them and also one of the shortcomings that some kind of running into those eight six six talk but George I appreciate you keeping us up today with that this this case has the potential for being massively huge is that that's redundant Chile has the potential for reaching out further than just guns I guess it's kind of thing that isn't it it's a big deal this is the case it's going before the Supreme Court oral arguments to be heard on December two the thing is as I'm starting to read more about this it you can go to Scotus blog think dot com and other places this act wants us to this New York lawsuit case that I've been talking about is making its way back just go to the Supreme Court they're going to hear oral arguments on December two happened was people were carrying concealed and ignoring the restrictions when they got caught they couldn't get arrested they could just throw their license so near you just a little history back in two thousand and two that used to issue concealed carry permits to people in New York City and but with restrictions Oh that our regulations won't stand up to a court challenge therefore we're going to stop the prosecution of this man who he said well we're going to crack down so we're going to eliminate the concealed carry for everybody except rich people famous people people on them and the justification of that was we wanna go to arrange and because it was a premise permit you weren't allowed to so in two thousand and two say we'll give you apprentice permit but you can go to arrange within New York City so they tell people okay you can't go out of New York City well they couldn't go out actually we know that this will never withstand scrutiny in court and so we can't let this lawsuit go or in this case disband the ATF mindset about every other day it occurs to me the other days not so much highlighted regulations can understand it federal regulations they're not laws they were passed by Congress they're just regulations made by New York City they don't know exactly what you're doing with your guns and especially with your hand guns and where you are every single day every single mom we can't actually keep pursuing it because it looks like they're actually mounting a good defense and it could shutdown this regulation I am of the manufacturing guns and they said but we don't actually want the precedent because we basically we know that the law is bad and Kratz but they have the potential to send you to prison for decades a regulation that nobody voted on in this case. ATF said the precedent fact there was a case I think ATF just dropped a case against a guy and CNN actually reported on it it was really interesting states and cities do they restrict rights and then when it gets challenged goes right up to the edge and they want to change the law they back out Oh yeah no no no nothing to see here avoiding did or people who raps to the Pistol License Department of which like three or four thousand guys went to jail for that I say and that was well documented they went to jail the stuff that goes on here number one near estate has premise permit generally allows you to have a gun in your home you can't take it to the ranger any place like this New York City into New York state because it was a premise permit and as soon as you cross the city London you no longer had a a handgun license so you get to spend L. A. it's it's amazing thing that's been going on there those of us and you're right those of us who don't live there don't quite have a handle on and it's hard to imagine the corruption in what's going on talk about the shooting there's reloading and hunting and self defense you'd like to join us it's of course it's free here to pay six six talk gun forgot I was going to tell you about it's Kinda weird kind of weird sometimes I don't know where I'm going with this I eight six six talk one or two but maybe a dozen or more hugely oppressive gun control laws that are going to go through there with Nary a speed bump on everything we know what's going on here it is just that close and there's a ton of money you have to be right now being and I was actually enrichment during the march there during lobby day which we were able to forestall at least temporarily da here at my local range and Last Saturday I shot my first two gun match which was just a blast I mean I had such a good time and bartered with political commercials Oh yeah they're all over the place and you know the interestingly though an awfully have this November close in this upcoming election and if the DEMOC I'm starting to say this but look if the Democrats get control you're going to have not I was with us out of Northern Virginia One I'm glad you called because I wanted to talk about that situation in Virginia anyway so you have the floor Sir hey calm again to do all the things because this is as you say it's right now you have a slim majority Republicans if that flips we know the government will reality Click Click still it oh he is Cacolo basically said Virginia will be completely unrecognizable state if the Democrats take control so we'd better get out there and vote on November fifth and really make our voices heard because it's I mean we have a slim majority in both chambers I think one or two seat majority but very slim Republicans we'll be no stopping it Virginia and if you're in Virginia yet to vote if you have friends in Virginia you don't live there you need to call them or contact them you need to go face tax free talk she said come back later I said I'm listening to Tom Gresham's gun talk right down the perfume before she opened the door to my office looking Mike a Million Bucks I'm a native New Yorker I moved to Virginia back in twenty seventeen and I'll tell you it's been such a breath of fresh air I've been able to you know I've I've been participating in ID on their Virginia is on the verge is going to sound weird to people the Virginia on the verge of becoming New York or California and it is that in good group and they really are a model that other states state gun rights groups auto take a look at yeah thanks Tom I know Arizona the second second amendment rally coming up right around the corner in DC which I plan on definitely I already told my wife don't count on me for that Saturday 'cause I'll be in DC but it all right back with you eight six six talk gun people are calling in right now bad analogy but it's like listening to a reformed smoker because you can say I have been where it's horrible and you need to and by the way congratulations smart move on becoming a member of the Virginia Virginia Citizens Defense League be CDL that is such an effective. I we gotta get out there I know that's national but I think it's still you know it it it still might have an effect on the local politics in Virginia have to imagine so pillow the the new legislature takes but you know we we're in a fight of our lives and there was an article in The Washington Post on October tenth that at this is really about Liberty Matt it's it's about freedom you know you have when I listen to you it's a maybe aw I don't know I want to say something here I you're not overstating it in fact I don't think it's possible to overstate what's you know born and raised in New York I was a Democrat once I was deep into union representation and all this you know the big bad greedy corporations and Arizona well yeah this is a national fight man and if you believe in liberty to me this is more about liberty than it is about I mean that's obviously about firearms but it really does the you know the Constitution doesn't apply up there so it's like I it's it's though you have moved to a free part of the country isn't it I came in I know you're you know I try to look at it like I compete against myself but I can't afford from the bottom and I'm fine with that 'cause I'm just all too happy to be able to do this because New York Stan I got out but if you're not in there you don't understand how it is I mean that's kind of what I'm hearing your voice one well Tommy not wrong I was raised it has a sister league out there it's called the AC Dino Arizona Citizens Defense League and I subscribe to them also I actually pay for a membership even though I don't it it really does feel that way but I'll tell you we are we are in the fight of our lives here in Virginia so I'm a member of the E. CDL make any sense well congratulations WanNa thank you for letting me talk about Virginia yes Virginia is huge and if you are a when I realized is that this is America man it's the land of milk and honey you can get out there no one is tying you to a desk or to a poll you know the things the right way swore citizenship that's a different topic but you know and I realized I said Hey you do whatever you want in this country and then it's like the lightbulb went off and it it was just refreshing to me to be able to read you know to think for myself and two but being from New York folks are kind of indoctrinated to think that world is at your fingertips here and my parents came here in the sixties because they want their from South America but they wanted a better life they came legally didn't hop offense to get here shooter gun owner Hunter I'm I you know it used to be I would say vote for the person who is good on gun rights now you have to vote for the Republican I wish it were it that way but that's what it is because if the Democrats get control there it will become Virginia Birthplace of presidents we've come a California or New York style state eight six six talk gun way you kinda depend on on the state for things but I don't know yeah you're you're told if that's gone away and if you don't think about it critically that's what you and perhaps more than any other organization ducks unlimited is working to ensure that our confidence wetlands not only survive dried kills ammunition the power of performance your firearm and enjoy the industry's only guaranteed forever satisfaction policy to stay up to date with the latest and best deals from Braunau's techs B. 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