76: Knock Down The House

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Hey, feminist frequency listeners. We would love you to join our podcast community on patriotic. That's patriot dot com slash fem. Freak like she's been attacked for her. Parents a lot especially like hoop earrings and red lipstick. And I'm like, yeah. High right. Were you watching this going leg? I don't remember shooting this scene. But I have said these exact things and warn that exact shape. Welcome sue because they radio this is up seventy six, and I'm your host, Anita Sarkisian. I'm joined as always by two women who have never even run for congress. Caroline pettit? A hey and ebony atoms run under this name. No. This is the show that asks you to be critical of the media, you love or alternatively. We're the feminist killjoys coming for your media, depending on your perspective today. We're gonna be talking about the new Netflix documentary about four women who ran for congress in two thousand eighteen called knocked down the house after that will finish the show by each sharing a little something in what's your freak out? Let's get to it. Hello everyone. Hey, how is everyone? I'm doing. Well. I feel like we all have talked in a while. Yeah. I go. This is a real good content for our listeners. Sometimes you just listen, we're meeting people where they are. Sometimes you're Pepys. Sometimes you just you know, you show up and you deliver what you can't sometimes the pizza's not hot, you know. It's exactly like that new Burger King. Add that recognizes that were, you know, we're we have different moods. Sometimes and that's just part of being human, right? Sometimes you want to go to Burger King and order yourself a pissed meal who doesn't want that way. That's real. Yes. Yes. Oh my God. It's this amazing commercial. I mean like, it's so weird. It's like Burger King doing this. Like you. We get you fam-. We know how hard it is just be a human being in this crushing world. But it's like, you know, you're fucking Burger King, you underpay, your employees and overwork them. And I mean, you are part of the problem don't do this. But there's so much social media now from so. Many companies and corporations it's all about they want us to feel like they are compassionate. And like, they have feelings and like man corporations do not care about your feelings. They do not. Yeah. And it doesn't matter. How many twenty four year old social media managers? You have you know, sort of representing your company's voice in a way and going viral. Like, you Burger King are not a person you Wendy's are not person. Well, that reminds me of when Netflix canceled one day at a time. And then they said this whole sob story about the cancellation being like, this isn't an indication. Your story is an important. We need to tell these stories, and we're like, you're the one who can do that. That's wrong to you. Oh boy. Cool corporations. Yeah. This week in corporate news. Okay. We'll speaking of corporate news. I'm sure that's related to our entertainment. News of the week. There's a big overlap. I mean, you know between anyway. So yes, starting with some corporate news. This past week. Boy, it's been a roller coaster ride for our friend, sonic, the hedgehog. I'm. So the trailer debut. Okay. I just have to say that. I was successfully avoided watching that trailer all day until I went to my neighbors. And they're like, no you need to see this thing. So so fair for so the sonic the hedgehog trailer for first of all it it like inexplicably uses gangster's paradise by Coolio as the main song. I mean, the only reason I can think of for that is like, oh sonic was kind of big in the nineties. The people were trying to trigger the nostalgic feeling in probably they were growing up. Also in this song was popular it has the medically absolutely nothing to do with sonic. Let's let's put it in the trailer. Like, it's so perplexing. But in addition to that, many many viewers had feelings about the design of sonic, the hedgehog, and what's interesting is that since then the studio or filmmakers, some statement was released saying, essentially, like, you know, we hear you and we're going to. The design for sonic in response to feedback. This film is set to come out on November eighth? I imagine it's a tremendous amount of work to go back in and redesigned the character as a whole ridiculous saga. The whole thing is ridiculous. Top to bottom to me. Anyway, I don't really have anything else to say beyond that. 'cause I don't really care about sonic, the hedgehog but moving on to more important news. So caster Semenya the eight hundred millimeter millimeter, the eight hundred meter that would be while the eight hundred meter Olympic champion from South Africa this past week. The af a governing body NF Lennox ruled that she. And I'm quoting from a guardian story about this. She quote, we'll have to take medication to significantly reduce her testosterone. If you wants to run internationally at events between four hundred meters and a mile, and I mean, this decision is infuriating on multiple levels. First of all it's profoundly racist. Would this happen? If she were a white woman. I, you know, I mean, I doubt it, but also just like this regulating of to be a woman means to fall within like, this acceptable range is just has such far reaching implications. In terms of what it means to be a woman or a man or a person of any gender that. It's I mean, it's it's sick. Like, it's it's. Trying to exert control. I mean, it's it's her natural body. Right. It's it's her body the way it naturally is. So it's outrageous that this would be the ruling, it's outrageous. And it's also so galling given the sort of rapturous ways in which male athletes are discussed, and they're sort of you know, supposed genetic predispositions to greatness. And you know, there's been a lot of conversation about like Michael Phelps, for instance. Right. And how apparently his body naturally produces less lactic acid than other elite athletes, and so this is, you know, at least partially responsible for his like overwhelming dominance in his sport. And this is considered a net. Good when it is a man doing something, you know, physical. But it is you know, it makes people uncomfortable. When it's a woman, it makes them doubly triply uncomforter-. When it is a black woman. And this is by no means unfamiliar to anyone who witnesses the way that, you know, athletes, like Serena Williams, for instance, are talked about entirely, contrary to reason, but the the sort of image of like, the hulking unfini-, you know, inappropriately muscular black woman is something that has dogged professional sports. Imagery from the very beginning. And as you say, this, we would absolutely not be having this conversation in this way. If Castro Semenya were a from the west, but be and most importantly, if she were white. Yes, Sylvania, thankfully for her part. I mean, unsurprisingly has said that she has no intention of taking the the treatment that would be required of her to reduce her own testosterone level to fall within the limits set by the court and she tweeted after the rolling. She tweeted don't trade your authentic for approval, which is awesome. Awesome. And powerful sentiment and statement coming from her in this moment, so you know. What a champion and he is Nike going to do a big ad for her to. Oh, well, I mean, I I kind of hope so I doubt it there's no way. But I I wouldn't mind if they did I mean, given the corporate reality that we live in at the moment. Xbox this past week released acceptable, trash talk standards, okay? Acceptable trash-talk standards and just want to quickly. Share with you kind of what those standards are. And what they look like. This out Phil because I am looking for the thing that I need, please. Don't cut this out. That's a good hold music here. Here we go. I'm going to share with you like the acceptable version of a trash talk statement. And then the unacceptable version of trash talk statement and their release. It doesn't have any actual profanity or threats in it. But it what it does have his in brackets like it'll have the word profanity or the term sexual threat in in brackets. So, you know, okay. So acceptable trash-talk get destroyed can't believe you thought you were on my level. But going too far looks like get sexual threat. Can't believe you thought you were on my level. Acceptable. Trash-talk includes. That was some serious potato aim. Get wrecked. Going too far looks like hey, profanity that was some serious potato AIn. Get wrecked. Trash. Who wrote this? I'm a I'm sure a trained expert in like online. Behavior and harassment at Microsoft. I'm sure I'm sure wrote wrote this realistically speaking, it is kind of cute that they did this, right? Like, this is like an educational tool to help deal with a really serious problem. But is just so like. Charming is the right word. You know, will it gets its patronizing. But in this like way that nobody's going to actually take seriously or tonight. Right. It's yeah. It's going to have all the effect of like one of those cheesy after GI Joe little, gene. Yeah. Hey, what ways you cross the street knowing his half the battle? Whatever what it does do though. Is it creates a very clear? Like almost enforceable terms of service, though. Yes. Like, if you did if you do this behavior outside of what we've deemed acceptable. We we now according to our policies can take action. Yes. Yes. Okay. The duchess of Sussex has given birth to a baby boy your reactions. Okay. Live from the cannery memorial studio. I do not care about. Okay. British Royal family, but I have to admit if I were held with my feet to the fire and forced to care about this family. I would find it. Easier. I guess to give a shit about Meghan Markle for obvious reasons, particularly given the British and weirdly American press is sort of like vilification of every decision that she makes right, but yeah. So I won't lie. There is a small party with. It's like, I don't really care. But if there was going to be a Royal baby, you know, that I'm going to be forced to have an opinion on it. Absolutely. Is going to be this mixed race, Royal maybe so, you know, I decided to stand it's going to be little, you know, Jamal Walter Windsor. Is that is that the kid's name? I'm free to consult if. When account to me, I've got a list starting with Melik, you know. Really happy to offer my opinion. I'm sure they would love that. We are actually like one we're we're one removed from her house. Right. We know we know people that know her oh for real. I haven't exploited disconnection yet. I know you wanna lay abbey the grapevine your name suggestions of sure she'd love all I'm saying is I looked high and low think about wedding invitation got lost in the mail. Want to be there when you posted about this this morning ebony I was like. Just go really quickly. Or was this like no I feel like she was like what's going on? But you know, we have like fem freak friends. What of our board members one of our who is like of sess with the Royal family obsess may not be the right word. But certainly carries a lot of interest for the Royal family. And so whenever there's some half-baked like Royal gossip I pretend to care, but really unders interested in her take on it. So I had a pop up this morning. I know that this board member knows that the baby was born probably gotta Guler set up shit. Sorry. But before we move on there's one last news item that I really have to squeeze in here. Y'all lucky that I didn't spend the entire news on this final item. This is the biggest by far probably the biggest story I've ever covered here on feminists, the entertainment news, we all know that John wig three comes out on may seventeenth Carro. Oh, it's not. See that's not news. This is news October twenty ninth. Find me the new book by Andre awesome. And the official sequel to call me by your name is coming out. Go. Go the cover has been released. It is. So it's going to have to retire month of October possibly November off as well to prepare emotionally, and then recover emotionally. Yeah. I mean, the cover is it self already evokes that like it talion kind of countryside villa feeling. I'm just like I want to go to their so extremely excited. Find me the sequel to call me by your name, the book sequel coming out, I haven't really important question. Caroline, okay. How many items of fruit are involved in the sequel? Well, that's you know, we list in spoiler culture now in need. I know that people were really worried about an endgame spoilers game of thrones spoilers. But I don't think there's a bigger potential spoiler than the answer to that question. So I'm going to really try to not find out until I read the book for myself. I don't know what we're talking about. Go back and listen to our episode on comedy by your name and a movie going experience. I didn't know if I was gonna make it out alive to be quite honest with you. It's ebony its greatness. It's pure cinematic greatness. And ebony struggles with that. I do I do. Anyway, I was gonna do it lovely transition about people in power. But now that we've ruined it with fucking peaches. I have no transition. Nope. Got nothing. All right. Let's move on to the main for this week since we're a podcast known for our great transitions. We're really fan. I mean, we do try when it is available to us to do a transition, but we don't put any effort into it. Hey listeners we love that you're tuning into our show where we deliver intersectional. Feminism analysis of pop culture every single week. You can help us keep bringing this sharp honest, and sometimes funny analysis to you by joining our podcast community on patriot in exchange for your dollars. We've got some perks like early access weekly bonus episodes AMA's an amazing community that hangs out on our private discord server, so please consider joining us at patriot dot com slash them. Freak in two thousand eighteen a historic number of women ran for congress knock down the house is a new documentary by filmmaker. Rachel Leers that Vos four of those campaigns each of them women going. Against established and well-funded male incumbents and each of them, outsiders, not just because they're women, but because of their desire to challenge aspects of the political establishment, so there's Pala jeans swearing Jin of West Virginia who's tired of seeing coal mining destroy the health and lives of people in her community. Corey Bush of Saint Louis, Missouri to champions economic and racial Justice in the wake of Mike Brown's murder. Amy Villela of Las Vegas who has become a Medicare for all activists for really heartbreaking reasons and Alexandria, Okaz Kazuyo Cortes who you've probably heard of. And if you haven't I don't know what to tell you. Well, check out this documentary. So very early moment in this documentary. I think is so insightful. And actually, you know, in some ways made me think of you and eat it because this is also something that you've very often had to just deal with and think about we see Alexandria Cossio Cortez like getting ready in a mirror to just go do a thing. And she says, you know for the benefit of the documentary the camera. She says getting ready for women require so many decisions about how you're gonna present yourself to the world, and she talks about how for male candidates. There's like two or three basic options that they just choose from. And it's done like it's very straightforward and simple, but she has to think about so many different things, you know, about what her makeup and her fashion and everything is going to convey to potential voters. Just like already. I was like oh my God. I'm overwhelmed already by the thought of. This process. I you know, I could never. Yeah. And she's like a million reasons throughout this film that I could never do thing. Like, this righty. This isn't covered in the documentary because it doesn't cover things that happen after being elected or being elected and. From the time that they stopped shooting. But like she's been attacked for her. Parents a lot especially like hoop earrings and red lipstick. And I'm like, yeah. I right. Were you watching this going like, I don't remember shooting this scene? But I have said these exact things, and that actually there is a so I was thinking about there's a documentary about me that's not out yet that has that same like putting on makeup seen in like women are always we are always framed in that way. And like it it kind of pisses me off. And it reminds me of there's a book, I'm totally forgetting the name of. But I really recommend it for assists, folks, because it's a book about like if you want to educate yourself on like basics of trans rights, and like existence and activism, and and the author talks a lot about how whenever she's filmed for things. She's like, no you can't fill me putting on makeup. I'm not gonna prove to you that I'm female enough by by being by being a part of this sort of stereotype of what it means to be feminine or to be female. And I always think about that. And I always think about that whenever I see the shots. And like, I get why documentary ins do it. But I also kind of like cool we put makeup on like some some of us will say on. It's such an important connection to a larger theme in the documentary, which is about showing emotion as well in sort of these things that are marked as being feminine. Right. So feminine markers like. Showing your appearance showing a particular kind of like, polished acceptably feminine appearance, showing a visible emotion. Like these are marked as sort of like feminine signifier 's, and so they are weaponized against women such that you have to perform them and demonstrate them to certain extent, but you are not allowed to transgress a certain sort of arbitrary line. Right. And so the fact that we see the women in this documentary visibly audibly, you know, breaking down as certain moments is in itself, a radical act, and you know, there's a moment in the documentary where I believe it's policy and swearing Jin. Who's talking about a response, she got from someone at a campaign event, this person this dude says to her you can't cry to cry shows weakness you have to be a bitch, and you need to go back to your constituents and be like, I'm your bitch. You know, but to show that emotion. You know, marks you as something week equals feminine, and that's a problem. And so for these women to be like, no part of the problem has been that our elected officials are so far divorced from our everyday lived experiences. And we don't actually get to see the humans who we have invested with this tremendous power. So it's a problem that we don't see people cry like individually, whether you know, come la-, Harris cries versus peop- Buddha, judge what that's not the issue. It's sort of the sort of like social expectation as a whole that we really need to unpack. Yeah. And I have to say just so personally my personal experience watching this. Film because on some level. I've I've sort of thought about just in the abstract like what would running for office be like. And so you see them doing the legwork, right? You see people going door to door knocking on doors? Canvassing just doing all this really grassroots. Really like. Yeah. Like with AO. Oh, see is working as a waitress in a bartender for at least at the very beginning of our campaign, so hitting the streets talking to people and then having to schlep to the restaurant, and like, you know, lug huge buckets of ice up. I was like I don't have it. This is not in my ministry. There's no way I could do this. Hey, yeah. But I have. So I've, you know. One time I with the with the democratic socialists of America here in Berkeley, you know, one time I went to like a meet up with them. And it was a it was a go door to door and talk to people about healthcare issues and about two candidates who are running from for this for this in this district. And I was so like near paralyzed than like nervous just doing that. I mean, I'm scared of people to begin with already partially because I'm trans. And I never know how total strangers are gonna react. But I just I was watching this. And I'm like, oh my God. I have so much admiration for even like the most kind of like basic level, but super hard and intensive work that goes into running a campaign like this it. Yeah. And the like the nitty gritty that they're responsible for. So we see Amy Villela may. Fundraising calls, and we're not talking about, you know, calls for one hundred thousand dollars or fifty thousand dollars or whatever she's calling people for twenty five dollars fifty dollars. Just like dialing for dollars in the hard work. That is in the those small successes that are absolutely necessary for this campaign, but that are so exhausting and the thing that kept coming to mind as I was watching minutes documentary is the the aphorism if you want to get something done give it to a woman who's already doing something. Right. So we have these women. I think the three of them AFC is not married and does not have children. But I believe the other three women are they are all straight women, and they're all married partnered with men and have children, and you know, most of them have jobs and other things going on in their lives. But then we also see Amy Villela like cleaning up her campaign office. And I'm just laugh just the nitty gritty like these are not people who are making calls. I've talked before on a pass episode about the show veep like Selina Meyer as played by. Julia Louis Dreyfuss, the idea of someone like Selina Meyer cleaning up like a coffee. Spill is ludicrous. You know, and yes that show is fictional Selina Meyer does not actually exist. But that kind of like party establishment establishment figures like this is the American elite. This is what we have in place of the monarchy in the air sake in this country. And so the contrast could not be more stark between people like the Joe Crowley that trying to NC versus someone like Amy below. For instance, who has like I gotta run the back, you mend my campaign office. Yeah. I think they did a really a really good job. I didn't actually know the full story of who was trying to oust here. And I thought that this did a really really good job of showing that story of like just how powerful this guy is and getting that moment where they realized that on another campaign. Joe Crowley, gave them money in order to try to make sure that the the primaries that came before the New York primary, the the the new folks wouldn't succeed like the the the sort of behind the scenes sort of money throwing around in order to influence is so powerful, and so strong, and it's not just something that happens in veep, or whatever, you know, like, it's very real. And so watching her and her. Whole team AOC in her whole team. Be like, no, we're gonna take this dude on when everyone's like wh how like why do you think you can do that? And just the idea of like, yes, we're doing this to win. And there's this line that she says like we're not just doing this to like first symbolism. We're doing this to win. I thought was really powerful. But at the same time the symbolism of it is very powerful as well. And that is what I think a lot of the other women who ran who didn't make it are sort of providing us is this sort of symbolic counter to the corrupting influence of money in our politics. And so the the this leads me to the fact that we often nor or do not see the organizing bodies behind activism, we see these individual leaders who rise up, and we tell these stories and the media so guilty of this where they tell these stories of how they came from nowhere, and then made it on their own into this like. David and Goliath story or what have you? But no these women were recruited by an organizing body brand new congress, and is one of them in the Justice Democrats is another that went to find women to train them to take over the seats. These are non-career politicians. They don't necessarily. Sorry. They don't have experience in this space, and they're coming from these particular backgrounds that can really. Inform them working for their constituents in a way that career politicians can't. So I think that I like I liked that that was a big part of this story and clearly the documentary film, the filmmakers got connected with brand new congress and was like, let's tell a story about what you're doing here. Yeah. One thing I would have loved to have seen more. I mean, we get east of it. But in the space of, you know, just under ninety minutes, we really don't have the time to to really paint a picture in a way that I would have loved is the particular flavor of regional politics that is so important to the way things run. So Las Vegas, politics and the influence of the gaming industry looks drastically different from West Virginia, politics and the influence of the coal industry. Right. So ultimately it is. Money and greed that are the primary movers in both of those places. But it's gonna look so different and West Virginia than it does in Las Vegas, people talk about Chicago politics. You know, people talk about New York politics right there. It really does matter when they say that all politics is local I would have loved to have seen more of that. And as I said, I recognize it in the space of ninety minutes. There's no way we could have gotten a release sort of comprehensive overview of what it means for someone like policy and swearing you. The daughter of a coal miner to run in a place like West Virginia. Like who is she truly up against? It's not just Joe mansion, and the, you know, the West Virginia people who are named the establishment politicians who are named. But who are those people who are behind those people such that, this is such a huge thing that this woman has chosen to run. When her mother says I'm scared for my daughter. You know, like people who go up against the coal industry. Sometimes they just disappear. Like I wanted to hear more about that shit. You know? Yeah. Yeah. So I had a this weekend. I ended up going for a short walk with a like seventy five year old white, dude. And. Whatever I don't need to go into the details of why that happened is my family's neighbour anyways. And he was talking to me about how in the sixties when he was in college. He like could have gone to Washington to see Dr king speak. But he didn't think it was important enough. And he was talking about how you know. He he knew of the Black Panthers. He knew of these movements, and he, you know, the names of people, and and what was happening. But it just you know, like he was like it wasn't my it wasn't his fight. Right, hugh. It wasn't his thing. And I was kind of like I was rolling my eyes really fucking hard. And I was thinking, and I and I said to him. I was like I mean, I wasn't going to go into this whole thing with him. But I was like, you know, stuff is happening. Now, the same stuff is happening now. So what are you doing? You're retired. Do something not that I necessarily need old white men to do anything. But like the I bring that up because there was a line in this documentary by one of the sort of elder activists that said the time has always right to do. Right. And that hit me like that really hit me and not because I don't do activism, but that like that is such a clear concise way, I think it was a. Quote from Dr king. Listen, here's urgency of now. And the time has always right to do. Right. Yeah. And I was like, that's I want that everywhere. Like, I want to really get people to understand that. Like if you didn't do something yesterday, you can still do something today. And that like it's never going to be easy. And that's the one thing about this documentary. Like, I watched it with my dad who would never have watched this otherwise. And he was like, wow. It's a lot of work. And like, you do you walk away from this being like, I was like he's like why don't you run? I was like hell no like I could never do what they did. Like, it's just to put yourself out there to be in a room like that auditorium with like fifty people in it. Yeah. Like every single person you talked to matters. And we don't really it's such a hard thing to get our heads around. And I thought that there was a lot of moments in this that were, you know, full transparency, I didn't wanna watch this. And I would never have watched. It if Caroline and ebony didn't both be like, no, we need to talk about this. Because I this is not my like, whatever whatever, but I got really emotional and a lot of parts of watching this and not necessarily because my opinion has changed about anything. But because like watching these women believe in their conviction and be like under all circumstances. Like, no matter what we are taking on these beasts. Was really really moving and the amount and sacrifice. It was just it's really moving. I there was one moment that I thought was really kind of interesting and revealing where we see Amy Velez inner car driving, and she says to the camera. She says, they're calling me a Marxist. I don't even know what marks is that. And it's you know, because like it's so interesting because right like a person like Amy Villela doesn't like she has not been in politics or life. She doesn't think in like she is there because she cares about like Medicare for all. And she cares about making sure that families don't go through what she has gone through. It's like very easy to understand. But outs people reporters media detractors, right wingers, or whatever they put all these. Labels on something that like obfuscate that just the raw the human reality of like, this is somebody who actually believes in something, and it's like Trump and his trying to be a part of this process because she funded. She believes that this is a fundamental, right? And a very important thing that this country has to do it's it's very easy to understand. I wanna I wanna clarify. Why I wasn't interested in watching this because it is one of it is a point that I want, and it'll it'll make clear the sort of very cynical point that I want to bring up. I don't I'm not invested in representational politics. That is not where my activism lies. I'm very glad that people do that work. I think that who is in power has an impact as we have seen. But at the same time, I think the system is deeply flawed and whoever you put in power is going to be a part of that power structure. So the folks who are like live and die in breathe by Obama or Clinton or any democrat who's an office. They are doing they have done horrible things while in office because that is part of how the system operates, and so for me, I would like to see an entirely new political landscape in a new political system that is much more just and equitable. So it so because of that it's hard for me like, I don't know who's running as democrat right now. Like, I'm not paying attention to the daily grind of that. I will I'll pay attention when it gets distilled down into the next election. But I'm not spending two years of my life stressing about the about this. You know, what I mean like this just our poll or political Zimmer's fucked up? So so I say that because while without a doubt, it is incredibly exciting and exhilarating in motivating to watch these women talk about issues that we're like, yes. Medicare for all. Yes. Racial justice. Yes. Abolish is. Right. Like, what is like support working class, folks? Like all of these things they are about to enter an establishment. So you tell me in ten or fifteen years are they still going to be able to hold onto this excitement and politics and the to me, I don't think they are. I think that once you become a politician in our current system, you're fucked, and it doesn't mean that they shouldn't do it. And it doesn't mean that we don't absolutely need those voices in these spaces. But we can't forget that. We have to have activists on the outside pushing constantly to make sure that our politicians are listening to us. And so that's my tension. And that's why I don't invest really heavily in this space. If that was one of the reasons why I was so glad we got to see figures like, John Whitehead, and this film whose longtime community organizer. Because we we see that it is these people who without being anointed by you know, the political kingmakers have said I'm going to learn about what's going on in my community, and how to effect that change. And I'm going to watch the ways in which my community is being well served or ill served, and I'm going to help make a difference on the local level. You know? So we see people like Joanna Whitehead. We see I'm blanking on the name of the community organizer in Saint Louis, but we see these people sharing the wisdom that they have accrued over decades of doing this work, and the hope is that the kind of. Information that they are. They are sharing with these candidates. Once those candidates are an office. Yes. We'll propel them for a while. But yeah, the reality is from day one of taking office, you're then forced to start fundraising. So that you can then be reelected in the next campaign. Right. So if your if your job is at least partially to make sure that you continue to have a job, then that's going to absolutely affect how you vote on things and contras you speak about it's not. Yeah. And congress is every two years. Yes. I mean like every fuck in two years. So what are you doing? You can't do anything other than get reelected. Try to hold them the fort. Yeah. So, you know, if you know that you need to get reelected, and you know, rich person X has said that they will give you one hundred thousand dollars. But it requires that you vote a certain way, then, you know, the temptation to vote a certain way, you can get that money. So that you can stay in office. So that may. Eighty potentially down the line. You can actually vote on those pet issues that propelled you into office is huge power is in is enticing. And it becomes a once you get it. You wanna hold onto it? And that and we see this across all kinds of arenas that have people in power or who have like come from nothing and gain power. You wanna fuck in hold onto that? And our system is set up. Our political system is entirely set up to to sort of force you to maintain that power. You're not just going to give it up. I agree. But you know, and everything you are saying is absolutely correct. But you know. For me personally, these past living under Trump for me. People like AFC sheet. It's to leave Ilhan Omar seeing these women in that space has been. I mean, it's it's like this thing that gives me hope under the the the fascist regime of of Trump is like seeing these women who are being way more bold and outspoken, thus far anyway about so many things than their career colleagues who who obviously do just kind of take corporate money, and you know, work with lobbyists, and you know, support corporate interests rather than really the interest of their their constituents. Yeah. Watching Joe Crowley completely fall apart against AOC being like, yeah. I'm fighting Trump. Yeah. Yeah. I'm doing it. Say that you won't say abolish ice. Oh, so I have to say like, you know, I saw as I said I'm already a fan of AFC. But this movie this documentary, kind of made me love her more just because of those very human moments that we get to see her in one of which is when she and her I guess sort of strategist or campaign manager or somebody says like when you know, we could have we could go as far as abolish ice like for poster slogan, or whatever and AFC is like, yeah. I would I would love it posted with abolish ice. They're going to say, that's gangsta. And I mean, I'm like. It's a real authentic thing to say and the other moment with her that I loved is like right before she's about to go out and debate Crowley for. I think the first time we she's obviously, of course, she's nervous. Of course. She is. And we see her kind of doing this self talk this ritual. She's saying like she says I need to take up space. We just so powerful because as women we are so trained so kind of conditioned to not take up space like in order to feel bad for taking up space. And you know, she says like I'm going to he's going to tell me, I'm small, I'm young inexperienced. And then we see her sort of do this like Star Wars Djeddai force push motion as if she's like pushing all that stuff. And it's just it's like a Fenwick little moment. And I mean, you know, I was grateful to this documentary for forgiving me forgiving me that like the human side is that element has so much goddamn energy. I was just like. You do it like, yeah. I just I loved watching it like I loved watching her be like, I'm doing this. And I was like cool. You're like ten years younger than me. Do it. Do. And she was able to project that vary. Like, we're we're doing this to win kind of attitude while we know that still somewhere deep inner harbor parts. There was like she didn't know she was going to win like she was a fairy frayed of losing. And it was a tremendous surprise when she did win. It was like incredibly exciting because nobody thought she was going to win like to me that and the other women who who don't win their campaigns. You know, do this to like it's so admirable to me for them to have just gotten in the fight and run the best damn campaigns. They could've run win or lose. And. God, you know. I just I just have. So I have so much admirations for what these women did in over. The course of what we see in this documentary me too. And I mean, it's not a weakness by any means. But you know, if you are. Fairly well informed. I mean, you go into the documentary knowing that wins that she is elected in that the other three women that the documentary focuses on do not win their challenges. And so you know that the documentary is at least like a significant portion of the narrative is going to be spent on on AMC. And so, yeah, it it would be great to see like what happens after, you know, like after the balloons have been popped after the confetti comes down what these women who, you know, upended their lives to make these challenges where do they see themselves if they do see themselves, you know, remaining in politics. What would they like to do? How are we in like maintaining the momentum that they were able to marshal and just before we wrap up on this one thing that I absolutely loved in this documentary is the scene with AO see debating a proxy for Joe Crowley at a neighborhood debate. The Joe Crowley doesn't even bother to show up at and the very powerful image of Joe Crowley, sending like a visible Latino woman to represent him at this debate that he's not going to right? In sort of the way that illustrates what he take seriously what he and his campaign figured would be enough in that moment. Right. Like, oh, clearly, I'm your guy. Look there are people of color who are in my corner. But then to see that woman, you know, be sort of insufficiently prepared to articulate any of Joe Crowley's like actual positions. Well like that scene. It's right there. That was super super important. And then to have the moderator be like, okay. Well, we're going to wrap up and folks jump up from audience to be like, yo I have a question. We never got to like there's over three hundred businesses over you know, owned by Yemenis, how are you going to address the travel ban or the guy who comes up and his like, I have an issue. The speaks specifically to the African community that lives here. Right. Like, I love these people who are taking the time out of their day. You know, who are like I gotta go to this community meeting. There's going to be twenty people there and probably three of them are going to be people there who just want the donuts. But I gotta say my piece it was it was I loved it. I felt so energize but also exhausted, you know, on ABC's behalf totally. All right L knocked down the house. It's on Netflix. Go watch it. All right. It is time to talk about what's been thrilling us moving us upsetting us or infuriating us this past week. That's right. It's time. Freak out. Caroline. You wanna get us started? Sure. Yeah. I got on your freak out was in your enter taint news will. Yes. I mean, definitely like that is I am so height. There is nothing. I'm more excited about right now than than find me the sequel to call me by your name. But you know, I was actually doing the thing that I'm sure I'm sure I think we've all been guilty of at one point or another of during the show like thinking like way, I don't have a freak out. What's my freak out gonna be? So I will say that. I saw the criterion channel. Web's website has launched as an online like library of all the films. I believe in the criterion collection, and we're not all the films, maybe some the licenses for some kind of come and go, but but a huge swath films in the criterion collection, and the criterion collection is not like the be all end all of great cinema. Not all works of great cinema or in the collection. Not every film in the collection is necessarily great. But it, you know, it is a it is an exciting for film lover. You know, it is exciting to have access to so many films by well respected important, you know, filmmakers and. Yes. So I've been I've watched a few films on there. I'm actually sort of right now. I'm in the process of going through of watching a film called news from home, which is by the feminist filmmaker Chantal Ackerman. And it's a film that it's it's she shot in one thousand nine hundred seventy six in New York City, and she's from France, the filmmaker and she's getting all these letters from her mom and her mom is like missing her in a so desperate to Sierra. Or or or hates that she's not writing more often, you kind of nagging mom letters from a mother who just wants to wants a closer connection with her daughter. But her daughter is off, you know, living her life and doing other things. And and it's just you know, it's just these like images of New York City in in the mid seventies. And. There's something just really mesmerizing and beautiful about it seeing you know, it's just people going about their lives or seeing these places in New York, and how kind of vibrant and alive it was. But also kind of grungy and rundown. And you know, it's it's so it's got so much flavor and personality so anyway, yeah. Like, the criterion collection, the criterion collection website is you know, it's a I'm looking forward to spending a lot more time digging through watching more films that I've never seen before. If you're a if you're a snobbish Sinophile like myself, you may want to you may want to check it out. Excellent. Ebony. I've had to take a brain break over the past week or so so. My freak out is a really small one. And I can here are three listeners being like yet. You're never going deep on these things. So I don't know what your complain about. But anyway. I get so angry at this kind of cultural dismissal of our online lives, and I speak specifically about people who are like, you know, kids today or people today are not connecting in the ways that they used to. They're not doing it in a real human way everyone's glued to their phones. And this is going to be revealed as purely a detriment to, you know, human civilization, whatever completely alighting the ways that people are finding community are finding connection online, which is a way for me to talk about high become obsessed with this it channel called hobby drama is just to Larry is I've been freaking out about it. Because I love reading witnessing watching other people freak out about their small sort. Of very niche obscure interests, and so my favorite at the moment is the drama on this Facebook group, that's purely devoted to clam chowder and. And. Yeah. He's in which like these horrific board wars. Have begun in been sustained among people who just wanted to get together to talk about clam chowder, and you would think what could possibly caused people to lose their bias. I'm not clam chowder, but you will find out. So I am recommending ready title hobby drama. Check out the clam chowder threads because there are multiple ones. And so it's it's pulling my mind, but yet it was it was a perfect sort of thing to meet a relaxed for me to relax into this week because I couldn't really take on much more like sometimes you just have to. Close down all your inputs. And so I had closed down input week. I look forward to open them back up later. Sweet. I have I have like quarter sized freak out because I didn't have any. So here we go. Or quarter-sized Goerner size one. So I have a third I have a three quarters of a freak out. Okay. I think on one of the episodes that we did that never got released. I talked about little SIMS new album gray area. She's a rapper from London and her album is great. I've probably spoke much more at length about it at the time. But I already did it. And it's in the either so go listen to that album too. Lemonade beyond as wonderful amazing album is on Spotify. So I've been listening to it again. And it's still fucking amazing. So that's great goal is into that. Again. And three I finally started watching street food, which I think was Evans freak out though. And it's delightful as our food shows that I love. So there you go you got three for the price of zero. We do have a guest freak out this week. And it comes from Mandy. Ladies, this is Mandy and my freak out is the crowd. Sourced website. Does the dog died dot com. It's I started using it to see if animals would die in films because I found it was very upsetting. But recently, it's become actually of site that lists multiple triggers for folks, including suicide self harm for me. Car crashes, and you can look up most films and see if they has any of these categories in it, which makes it really useful. If you have any trauma related to all sorts of things. So they did get advertisers lately. But that means that they expanded the site quite a bit, and they don't frame it in terms of trauma so much as emotional spoilers. But it's still been really useful resources. Especially for those of us who do have some pretty less common triggers. So thanks so much have a good week. Thank you so much for sharing that that sounds like an awesome resource we will link it in our show notes. If you want to submit your own freak out, it might make it under the show. So just head over to feminist frequency dot com slash freakout. That's F R E Q. Oh, you t. That's it y'all you can get just back here every single Wednesday. Stay tuned for the frequent after party, which is only available to backers of this podcast, which you can be just over the patriot dot com slash fem. Freak if you're enjoying the show, please rate and review as on I Junes, and when you are sitting in your war room, trying to get into congress be like, hey, just take a quick break from this very important work until your friends to listen to this cool podcast. It's called feminist frequency radio. You'll love it. You can check out all of our work and other podcasts at feminist frequency dot com. And be sure to follow us on Twitter at fem freak to stay up-to-date on all the news. You can find me at anita's her keys. Ian, I'm at Caroline, Michelle. I am at I don't want to debate you our producer, Phil circuits who else will composer theme music technical support by Sarah, Sarah's art by Jamie, Barron. And we're.

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