JonBenet Ramsey ////// Santa Claus

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Jon Jon Benet Ramsey. She was strangled with little. Miss Colorado. A victim Jon benet Ramsey unknown L. Intruder Robin Ramsay Phil Johnston Tames. Anybody been half for that day not more than two through sponsor. It's been over twenty twenty years since Jon. Benet Ramsey was murdered inside her home. Still to this day. We are looking for the killer. We are looking for. Who who did this now? The experts who have looked at this case over the years there are some that point toward the intruder theory as it has become known. Proponents of of the intruder theory include an e. Who did their documentary on? The JONBENET case as well as famous retired F. B. I.. Agent John on Douglas and retired law enforcement officer. Lou Smit John. Douglas believes that there was an intruder and that the motive for or the killing was something against John Ramsey. Somebody had an axe to grind against John Ramsey. Maybe this was revenge handed out for John and Patsy. We don't know but that's part of his theory. Loose man on the other hand believes in the intruder theory as well with a slight variation creation. He believes that we are looking for somebody that was sexually motivated that this was a pedophile that broke into the home at the sole purpose of sexually assaulting this young girl attempting to kidnap her but unsuccessfully. Now we've put together a list of potential suspects in this case so let's get into some of the suspects suspects in some of the interesting Weirdos in this case and I'd like to start off with a man named J. T. Colfax Aka James Michael Thomson Simpson. He was thirty four years old back in nineteen ninety seven when he was arrested in June. This for deciding to set fire to the ramseys unoccupied home home on Fifteenth Street. He did this as he says not because he had anything against the ramseys but because he wanted to get back at the authorities ladies he attempted to set fire to the home by lighting newspapers and pages from Anne Rice's famous book interview with a vampire. He likes these things is on fire and then he stuffing them through the mail slot at the Ramseys home. His plan failed due to the general construction of the home. The floor from my understanding adding is marble and so the burning pages wants stuff through the slot land on the marble floor and lay there until burning out this did however manage to leave a good amount of soot on the walls and the ceiling okay so if jt Colfax Aka James Michael Thompson didn't do This because he had it out for the RAMSEYS. Well what was his beef with. The authorities Colfax was employed as a cadaver transporter by Denver Denver Company. This occupation in Colfax is actions will lead to two other arrest one for when he had a call to go to the Boulder county morgue for a pickup while he was waiting around he noticed the logbook and the entry with job as of name on it he tore the sheet out of the Logbook Book and took some additional pages as well. This would lead to a theft charge for stealing pages from a coroner's log. Book showing the arrival of Jon. Benet Body Audie at the county morgue. His other arrest came when he attempted to walk out of a photo processing store without paying for the roles of photos he picked up the photos. Turn out to be pictures of corpses with party favors and signs attached to the bodies with phrases. Such as getting fired isn't isn't the end of the world or yeehaw and happy birthday. He called the FOTOS works of art. He served time for all of these charges. This is somebody. It has very strange with some very strange actions and behaviors that seem to be circling around this case. I don't believe that he has ever been officially named named a suspect captain next we have Gary Olivia. He's thirty two year old sex offender living in Boulder Colorado. When Jonbenet was killed the convicted pedophile had been living in the area on and off and two thousand? Gary was arrested for a drug charge when searching the man. Police least find a magazine Cutout of Jon benet Ramsey in his backpack according to Rolling Stone magazine. The ramseys private investigator Ollie Gray Array once referred to Olivia's ties to Jon. Benet as a quote bombshell arrest in the case and lambasted the boulder older PD for failing to consider him a more credible suspect soon after. Ah Libya's highschool friend Michael Vale Step Forward Award with an allegation supporting grays suspicion. Vail claim that not long after the murder a distraught. Olivia called him on the phone and confessed to his longtime POW. That he quote hurt a little girl I thought he actually caught him on the twenty six vale. Make some some strong claims about Olivia and I'm not going to go into all of them but they are. Well they're disturbing to say the least Vail also associated that in his opinion the knots for the Gherat. This strangled Jon Benet a were similar to those used in an incident where Olivia attempted to choke. Okay his mother to death with a telephone cord and when Gary Olivia was arrested they also found in his possession. A stun gun. Several experts on this case have said after viewing photos of Jon Benet as body that the attacker may have used a stun gun to subdue in control the Child Olivia has arrested for possessing child pornography as well Olivia by his own. Admission lived about eight blocks away away from the ramseys and was seen and photographed at the one year memorial vigil held for job a in front of the Ramseys Boulder home days. Not Hard to pick out. 'cause he looks like the creep he looks like a guy that when you close your eyes and go okay. What what kind of guy do I picture? That's it's been convicted of these types of charges. You Go and you open up your eyes and you see a picture you go. Yeah that that makes sense yeah. He's he's a creepy but also scary very looking man in my opinion. Yeah he's not a guy that some some of these pedophiles you go. Hey Leman a room with that guy. I'll take care of him. This guy you might not want to be locked in a room with him well and I didn't go into all of veils allegations against what type of person and what this dude is capable of right because it's very disturbing in some shocking things to hear but but what I can say is this is an individual that if vail is correct did if his allegations are in fact true then this man is very violent and very violent towards those weaker than him towards people that are in animals that are just kind of defenceless. Wasn't there rumors that he had a shrine to Jon Benet. I saw those rumors as well. The only thing that I could back up was the statement that there was a picture. Sure on his person at the time of his arrest of Jon Benet that had been cut out of a magazine. I couldn't verify this elsewhere but according to Rolling Stone magazine they say he's been cleared by DNA testing for the Jon benet murder. Yes this FAMOUS DNA right bright next up. Captain we have a man named Michael Hell Goth. They call him boot man or simply boots. He's another potential suspect it. This according to Ali Gray remember the ramseys private investigator Michael Hill Goth. Who worked in a nearby auto salvage yard? He was apparently. In some kind of property dispute with the Ramseys this could be one of many motivating factors for this when the then twenty six year. Old Man went to seek revenge against John Ramsey in nineteen ninety seven the Boulder District Attorney delivered a speech at a press conference complete with the promise of justice for Jon Benet and that this case will be solved. He pointed out that they have suspects. Max And as law enforcement continues to work their investigation. That list of suspects will shrink until there's just one left you. Are you speaking to the killer. This was a powerful announcement scripted with carefully chosen words letting the killer no that the boulder. Da was zeroing in on a new suspect Hell Goth according to his co worker at the time of the murder. This is John Kennedy He. He says Hell Goth exhibited a bevy of disturbing behaviors sparing everyone the details. He was known for what I call severe cruelty realty to animals. He once said to Kennedy. I wonder what it would be like to crack a skull now. Anybody that's listened to our job. A autopsy episode knows knows exactly what we are hinting at here in November of Nineteen ninety-six. He told his Co. worker that he and an associate. We're going join to make fifty to sixty thousand dollars. Each remember. The ransom note was for one hundred eighteen thousand dollars total then after Christmas Hell Goth seemed depressed and his co worker says a thanks. He was depressed because he did not make this large amount of money that he was talking about November because on the side he would buy old vehicles and restore them so they had these plans to buy certain vehicles vehicles and now he didn't have the money the the money didn't come in. He was claiming he was going to get so if he stood to make fifty or sixty thousand dollars from some kind of unknown business adventure then right but he said the buy up all these cars and turn it into even more money is what you're saying right oddly enough and this could just be a coincidence it could be something incredibly important but the day after the. Da Speech the says we are zeroing in on a suspect. Act Hell Goth. He turns up dead after his death. Police searched his things and photos of his. Or let's go back doc. Because most people believe it was a suicide but because of certain pieces of evidence it could lead somebody to believe that it was possibly murderer and set up to look like suicide correct when they're searching his items. They're searching photos of his police saul two things of particular interest. I won a stun gun and to a pair of black high tech brand boots. This is believed that they would have matched or possibly match one of of two sets of unidentified footprints found in the Ramsey's basement even more disturbing within hell Gos- video collection was a news station story about an unsolved murder seemingly hidden in the middle of a movie law enforcement stated that the video plays along and then boom in the middle of this movie movie it breaks to like news coverage and all of a sudden has news coverage on their from Channel Four regarding the abduction and murder of a five year old girl who was found stuffed into a sleeping bag and Deer Creek Canyon. This case is from nineteen ninety-three now as you were getting to hear captain. This is the time for the speculation in something that many people have offered their opinions. On over the years the belief is officials found found an unidentified print and an unidentified shoeprint at the crime scene and Hell Goth owned boots that would match that print hell Goth caught wind that he was a suspect and decided to take his own life committing suicide just a day after the nineteen ninety seven press conference the famous press conference where district attorney. Alex Hunter says I want to say something to the person or persons that committed this crime the person or persons that took this baby from us I mention the list of suspects narrows and soon there will only be one left on the list and it will be you. Do you have stripped us of any mercy. We may have had in the beginning of this case. We will see that. Justice is served in this case that you pay a for what you did. Many people believe that the district attorney was hinting at the idea of seeking the death penalty for whoever is responsible for this murder and this could scare the offender even more so the thought and speculation here captain his death his suicide being a further sign of guilt that he was close or felt that he was close to being apprehended. So what health was a suspect of. What if he did as as many believe some people suggested he could have had an accomplice? Well if so many point toward John Stephen Gig. Ix being the accomplice John John a man with a criminal record that court documents summarized as violence and a history of sexual assault. What makes this theory? Even more complicated is the suggestion hell got did not commit suicide but was killed by someone. Maybe gigs this to prevent Hell Goth from confessing during the interrogation or from turning himself in and then singing like a bird and turning in his accomplice as well. Why think of the crime crime-scene they found the gun in his sub dominant hand not as dominant hand? Yeah so he shot himself any shot himself in the chest. I or somebody shot him in the chest and place the gun in his hand so so a weird place to shoot yourself. If you're trying to kill yourself correct now Gig in his defense and by all accounts that I could find captain of his own free will he was the one that reached out and contacted boulder authorities and he says he provided them with documentation that proves he was not in Boulder Colorado on December twenty fifth nineteen ninety eighty six right bilas thing about this. First thing he's running around saying that he's going to get some money come into some money possibly fifty to sixty thousand that would put us at the One eighteen mark. That's in the ransom note So he's not getting this money from his partner. It doesn't seem like maybe there are being hired by somebody else so maybe possibly the person that was going to hire them since it was about botch job and was afraid that maybe they would go to authorities. He's that they got rid of him. And then the partner that was involved contacts the police because he's afraid that the same thing that happened to how garth arth is going to happen to him. Yeah the the the problem with Hell Goth is. There's so much speculation around him regarding I mean everything about the guy one is even connected to. Did he ever think he was a suspect by three. Did he commit suicide for. I mean people commit suicide for a million Elian different reasons or was he murdered by somebody to cover. It could have covered anything up while one of the reasons why he is a a pretty big suspect and a lot of people's eyes when they're looking at this case is because seeing is believing it's good to be seen and it's good to see you and when you see the pictures from either the suicide scene or murder scene you see this done gun when you see the boots that possibly match the prince founded the Ramseys home so I think just by seeing you go all there it is. It's right in front of us. Possibly I think the problem here with Hell Goth is again the speculation involved and in the leaps. You have to make to make him a really good suspect one. We have no confirmation. That stun gun was used in the attack against Johnny at all. It's just correct that in itself. Thank you Latian. So but right but what I'm stating is once you see at the suicide scene or or this murder scene off. There's a stun gun in the picture. There's there's the high tech boots in the picture. I think that's why people have been able to make other leaps because they can see something and see in his believing leaving. Well what you're seeing. There is evidence that you cannot exclude him as a suspect. You're seeing things that point to possible possible reasons that would make him a suspect. If in fact those puzzle pieces fit somewhere. We can't confirm that they fit regarding the boots themselves in the unidentified blueprint or shoeprint. It was found in the Ramsey's basement. That's very troubling that we have unidentified shoeprints in the Ramsey's basement. We have people that that fight and argue about wasn't intruder was an inside job you could take those unidentified prints and make an argument for either side of that argument you. There were so many people in the basement the people coming in and out be it before the murder or after because we have a contaminated crime scene that it could be the prince mean nothing what the prince could also point toward a possible intruder ruder. The the the trouble again with Hell Goth is just one more factoid in there is that we don't have a confirmed size for this boot print. There's no there's nobody out there that has said they were absolutely. This is in fact it has been ruled that they they could not determine the size the exact size of the blueprint so would in fact those boots even match up with that print and again Dan with this famous DNA. I believe they've asked the family. How growth to cooperate and and let them try to get some DNA to test? And I believe they have said now. I'm glad you threw that in there because this is one thing that we've run into with this case it's been reported so many times over the more than twenty years now and reported so many different ways by so many different sources. It's tough to keep things straight sometimes and one thing that I found extremely troubling in regards to Michael Hell Goth is several sources in print. Say He's been cleared by DNA. And I throw that back at the wall to see if it sticks and I don't know that it sticks because because I wonder if if truly the jury is out if still out on this one because not every source states that he has been cleared Leveque in fact as you pointed out I have some sources that say they they're seeking DNA. They're seeking more evidence on this particular suspect. Yes very interesting the tone you that loose. Smith's family has taken the list of suspects that he basically was narrowing down his search search and they've been asking those individuals to submit. 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WHO's now deceased? He was a friend of the RAMSEYS. who dressed up like Santa Claus to entertain the neighborhood? Children this at several of patsies famous Christmas gatherings thanks a went as far to introduce himself as Santa Bill and liked when people caught him. Santa Bill if you think he makes a good that suspect and if you like these Santa Claus theory the theory may go something like this. This is from rolling stone. Mick Reynolds was rumored to have paid aide a little too much attention to Jon Benet going so far as to arrange a secret visit from Santa Claus this after after Christmas is complete speculation. We know that Jon benet referenced. A secret visit from Santa Claus after Christmas. We don't don't know that if that means it was bill. Mack Reynolds Santa Bill that set this up. Supposedly he wanted Jon a banana to be his quote special friend going so far as to bring a vial of glitter gifted to him by the six year old with him into heart surgery even stranger. He asked his wife to mix the gold glitter in with his ashes. If he were to die. This particular story generated raided buzz in the Denver Post but failed to amount to anything more than what many have called the sensationalized character. Assassination of a friendly the old man. That's what they say. But I say let's look at this a little more closely because I think some people will see more than just a ace insane character. Assassination Bill mcreynolds is a retired Colorado University journalism professor. He retired in nineteen ninety. Ninety two he was about sixty six years. Old Jonbenet was killed. He grew his beard long so a natural long white beard. This was when he signed up to play a role in a local play then later he was hired by Maryland House to play Santa at the mall. He he played Santa for the Ramseys in nineteen ninety four ninety five and ninety six at their parties. He had bypass surgery on August. Twenty Third Nineteen Ninety Ninety six. He and his wife. Janet were invited by the Ramseys to attend job in as memorial service. Some publications state the Jon Benet. They gave mcreynolds a tour of the Ramsey home and nine hundred ninety five some publications say nineteen ninety six either way. What seems to be clear here? Apparently this did happen. The only thing in question is which year yeah and I would argue that. It's possible that happened both years. Hey Santa let me show you the house again. One report I found. Captain says that Jon Benet called Bill Old Sam now another story that would have the a year in question. Is Jon. Benet gave him a vial of glitter that she said was stardust. He would later say in all of the years he played Santa and for all the kids that he saw throughout that time she was the only one to give him a gift against a publication. Say she gave gave him the Stardust in ninety five say ninety six one publication which I think could in fact have it correct says this happened on two occasions wants wants in ninety five and again in ninety six it would have happened. Had to have happened in ninety five for the story about his heart surgery to correct his his alibi for the night in question was he was sleeping. He went to bed at ten PM. Now captain I think he and his wife were at their mountain home like a weekend vacation nation home. This would have been about thirty miles away. This alibi was investigated by many. The alibi includes more than just his wife. At least five other people would have been present that night. Here's where things get strange the MIC Reynolds. Their nine year old daughter was kidnapped on the day after Christmas. December Twenty Sixth Nineteen Seventy four twenty two years before for quick with the math. Then we also have Janet mcreynolds his wife she wrote a play called. Hey rube the play is a fictional account of the basement murder of sixteen year old. Sylvia likens in Indianapolis Indiana but hold on a second so. The daughter is kidnap with her friend. And I believe the friend was actually molested and the daughter witnessed that but the daughter herself was not molested justed and both were let go. Yes and this was never solved and then two years later his wife will write this play. That's based off of a a different Crime correct and people point toward the basement. Murder of a young girl is being a connection. Here right I was the motivation for writing the the play. Are these two factors. Are they coincidence or just too much. To be a coincidence. I would actually cross the second one out this Janet writing the play about the murder teen. who was killed in a basement and I state that because that case? Ace It's a real life. Case is extremely famous case. At least two books are written about the case and then later in two thousand seven. The film in American crime was released. This is a very good movie disturbing haunting that is about the life and murder of Sylvia. Likens we should point out too that other than being a child Sylvia was sixteen and being killed in a basement. The murders could not be more different uh-huh Sylvia's case was quickly solved. She was not killed in her basement. She was staying or living with a caregiver who turned out to be a sadistic nick old and evil woman and she and her children along with some of their friends killed Sylvia. Shortly after the memorial service for job. Hey Bill and Janet went to Spain so this made them very difficult to interview for police. This was a long trip the MIC Reynolds. Say they were not to hide from anyone. They didn't run away to Spain. In fact the Spain trip was a coincidence they had. They proved that the trip was planned and booked. Well in advance chance this being in June of Nineteen Ninety six John Ramsey suggested that maybe bill mcreynolds dressed as Santa Fede. Jon benet Pineapple Apple the night that she was killed and that he sat next to her while she a he drank a cup of tea. We pointed this because we know from from some of the crime scene photographs that they photographed a bowl of what appears to be pineapple on the table and nearby. You have what appears to be a cup not a little the little tea bag down in the Cup Jan.. We don't have fingerprints on the bowl. We'll have Jon Benet Ramsey's fingerprints on the the bowl but we do have a pineapple like substance that was found in her stomach so we know at some point of that evening. She ate pineapple and then the parents claim they never fed her pineapple before she went to bed and apparently bill was known to drink hot tea while I breath. I actually believe it's it'd be a little bit easier than that because if we have a six year old girl that a believe is on the twenty third or twenty fourth. I'm not really sure. But when she gets into an argument with her friends mom and said Santa Claus is going to visit me. Of course he's going to visit you. He visits every kid on Christmas. No once yeah no no. She says as after Christmas a special visit to me. This is the thing in the case that has always been so odd and so is it possible that she fell asleep on the ride home from all the parties. She's a little six year old girl. She's tired she falls is asleep and then she wakes up and she goes all tonight. Santa Claus is going to come visit me and so she went downstairs on her own fed herself pineapple waiting for this visit from Santa Claus. I I agree with you. One hundred percent. I mean this is one of the more odd details within in this story. It's one of the very few items within the story. That's almost foreshadowing that something very bad is about to happen. It just just doesn't. It's something that in hindsight makes sense that it that it lines up and it's it's eerie in truly as I put this in the same category category as the the Phantom nine one one call that came from their Christmas party right now. Bill was not without his own secrets. It's he regularly visited adult bookstores this unbeknownst to his wife John Ramsey suggested that SB t. c. the and the ransom note ransom letter as I would call it could actually be S. B. J. C.. which he said could stand for Santa Bill? Janet Santa Claus but hold on a second to Janet his wife is a moot movie critic that that's one of the things and she writes for the paper so it doesn't have to be Santa Bill. JANET CLOSET COULD STILL BE S. BTC and some people think that means Santa Bill. The critic interesting I I like trying to figure out what s BTC or maybe it is S. B. J. C.. Which I agree with you when when you look at it on the paper? It's possible that it could be the intention was to write a J.. Not a T.. I think it's fascinating to try to figure out what that could stand Dan for however I think none of them that I have heard none none that anyone has pointed out have have I gone who. That's that's interesting. Every one of them seemed to be a leap like just a weird connecting words that I don't think should be connected. Dab I mean and look at the BTK K. Strangler btk. Hey what the heck does that mean. We'd have no clue what that meant until Phil we have the actual killer coming out and stating this is what that means right. When the mcreynolds return to boulder from Spain they cooperated rated with the police in the way of submitting fingerprints blood hair and handwriting samples later Boulder Da? Mary Lacey says that she had mcreynolds as her prime suspect for a time. His handwriting is listed as questionable but his DNA he is not a match according to a candy Rose Dot com which has a large database on this case but there's also some speculation that his DNA was never collected so it again. It's one of those details in this case that you can't find the correct answer. One article does state that the handwriting being sample quote eliminated Bill. mcreynolds again as you just pointed out. There are many details within this story. That are argued different ways. Now we do know that the Ramseys by their own. Admission hired a private investigator. I'm sorry private investigate towers to watch bills Dell's house for some time so the ramseys obviously not only just John's statements but also the actions of the RAMSEYS paying people to watch bill and his home for a period of time next captain we have Santa's son Jesse mcreynolds. He was interesting to the police because of his police record he served two and a half years in an Arizona prison for aggravated robbery and kidnapping and he. He has in unverifiable alibi for the night in question Jesse lives in Neater Land Colorado. This is about a thirty minute. Drive to boulder. Jesse says he was home alone. That night drinking scotch and then. He took some of his prescription medication education and he went to bed that night. Scotch Scotch Scotch Scotch. I Love Scotch home alone that night. He he has provided police with with fingerprints blood and handwriting samples. Steve Thomas a detective that. We've referenced many times who worked the case right says that the handwriting in writing sample eliminated Jesse mcreynolds. That's his opinion or provided to him by the experts hired by the DA. Less stay on Santa Bill for a little bit because this kidnapping twenty two years on the same day It just seems teams very fishy and it also seems very fishy to me that his daughter and her friend were taken. We now have have a sexual assault on a minor but not to his daughter and I would think that in this case that's not solved. The parents would be suspects. Just like they would be in the Ramsey case so I like that as a key piece of evidence. The other thing too is. I can't get over the fact that a six year old is saying that Santa Claus is going to visit her after Christmas. That same six-year-old has found in her basement. Dead and that she has a relationship probably too close of a relationship with a Amanda is a family friend. Play Santa Claus then when you got this odd ransom note seems like we have a lot of movie references. Well who's going to watch a lot of movies a movie critic WHO's GonNa Probably Watch those movies with his critic wife. The husband husband Santa Bill. The other thing that I find odd is at Santa Bill would carry around these stuffed animals with him there were like his helpers. Most of the time they were dressed in Chrissy outfits and there was a bear that was found on. Jon Benet Ramsey's bed you can see it in the crime scene photos now. How supposedly this bear has gone missing sense and the I looked for days because I thought this was as important and as Jon Benet saying that she's going to be visited by Santa Claus after Christmas? Now one source that I found said that this bear was actually bought for member. How she won Miss Christmas? Yeah they said that a lot of the people participating aiding got these Santa Claus bears but these bears look very similar to the bears. That saint Santa Bill Bill would carry around and even ask Kids Hon about him. Hey you see this bear. Does this look kind of like what you're dead cares around. He's like that looks pretty much identical to something he would carry around so I find that odd. What another thing about Santa Bill is when you're asleep and yes you're thirty miles away so you have to get in your car? That's a long drive if everybody else is asleep as long as you get get back before they wake up. You're good to go so I don't really count that as a solid alibi. I questioned the alibi as well I mean there's my wife but yeah and I wanted to point out that it was investigated by many and that includes you know boulder detectives. It includes Journalist includes the Private investigators I mean. It's a lot of different people coming from a lot of different angles that it did investigate that alibi. The problem is I don't know what investigated the alibi means. That's the only statement given I don't have to do. We don't have confirmation that says all these eighteen different people or these different agencies all can confirm without question that these five to seven people can account for bills whereabouts for the night of Christmas. Now says it was investigated but I I have to believe that they by that statement that they believe it to be true but I wanted a little more than than just that and and then regarding his the kidnapping of his daughter and her Fran twenty two years to the day right again again. It's another situation one because it's nineteen seventy four. There's very little information about that particular crime other than it's unsolved so I don't know if they had had reason to believe that they knew who did it or if they had a really good suspect in that case and likely. There's a chance that if the other girl was the one that was molested she of May may have been in fact the target it but the thing that you can't get over and if anybody tells me that they can get get over it let's sit down and have a beer because twenty two years to the day. There's three hundred sixty five five days in a year and it happens on the same date. That's just frigging weird to me. Is that it. Sounds like something that you would see in a movie or or or a fixer fictionalized version of of some kind of crime. Right in but it's called the Santa Bill a pedophile. I don't think we have any no. You're right we have no evidence of that that would be way out of bounds right but it's also but he's creepy easy to me man. He's creepy but on top right on top of that we know with pedophile. They put themselves in situations to be around children which he is doing and the fact that he also would be going to adult stores video stores to me. I don't have a problem with that. That my issue is the fact that your wife didn't know about it that becomes creepy to me the thing. That's that's odd about up. That to me is that he like. He doesn't try to hide this from the police. I think they found out on their own and they present it to him and he he he was embarrassed but they they're they say his reaction wasn't that of somebody that's guilty of anything more than that particular action. They believed not was just embarrassed one for for other people knowing this and his statement to them. Now Mind you. This is not been released to the public as far as the details go but his generalized statement to the detectives was he has some type of fantasy that that he's he's not his wife is unaware of The the it's something that he's he's been into for a long time kids that I I can say like kids. Well I don't know what would what the fantasy is. My guess is that the detectives do for you're being he's purchasing things at an adult bookstore. The usually dull. They don't sell things that involve children. I mean So we we know that but I also have to wonder is his fantasy something that that the detectives did not find to be relevant to the case. Yeah I mean when you'd have some homosexual tendencies or or fantasies and and and then they go while that doesn't line up up but again where's the evidence of whatever he stating and like you said yes. They don't sell child pornography Orphee at at adult bookstores. But if you're if you're making claims to throw them off the scent in any way. Houses backed backed up. And then we have this situation again. Where if Jon Benet Ramsey eight pineapple with the intruder that the intruder would be somebody that she would of known and also felt comfortable with and I also think what a great way to shut? Uh Up near Santa Claus outfit and therefore even if John or Patsy woke up. Yeah you're a little odd an can. Yeah take some discussing and they might never invite you back to their house but you could go well. I told her I was going to visit Her side to see I got a key and I was just going to let myself and leave her a gift and even though they claim that these bears were bought. Ah For this pageant. I can't confirm that other than just some simple line on some internet Thread and to me. It's it's very odd that there's this bear that neither one of the parents know Abou- and now it's missing and we have a police department that I think was so focused on putting this on the parents that they didn't to a good enough job working on these other suspects. I also think with the handwriting samples we don't have any fingerprints or DNA that I know of on the Letters so we can assume that this individual is writing these letters with some kind of glove on well. How much does that glove love alter their handwriting? And so unless you're giving people a handwriting samples where you're making them wear a certain type of glove. I don't think think you're going to get the correct answers there. And then they say and this is the most asinine thing I heard from law enforcement probably in the whole case as well we also ruled out Santa Bill because he had heart condition so he physically couldn't do this. Okay well and I was telling you about this local detective. I sat down and talked with him about the Ramsey case. And I I was saying. Yeah the Santa Bill. There's a lot of things that line up to make him. Look like the best suspect and even the DA at some point said as the best suspect or believe that she thought he who was the best suspect for a while and this detective went on to tell me that they had the case where everything was pointing to this gentleman but he was in very bad health condition and he was actually walking with two canes. So the more and more they're going we think it's this guy. Why but he physically couldn't do it so they brought him in? Had Him take a lie detector he fails and then he emits. The whole crime gives a full confession. I'd then they have to figure you know well. How were you able to do this? It was a sexually sexually motivated crime and the adrenaline. We gave this guy the strength to do the one was was more than or this desire was more than the the pain you know the or the physical limitations and see. I would also argue too that you go you write this note this this ransom. No I also think that the ransom note proves that somebody had some idea about writing. They put too many commas in there for some simple bowl criminal. So you have this girl down in the basement and like I said to you. I don't know see with the garage. That is going a to determine how hard you can strangle the person not your physical limitations. The gras helps you shock now. The grat based on most autopsies or the way people look at the autopsy. The choking wasn't to kill her. The choking was for sexual gratification. It was a sexual act. So that's where I wonder did. Did Santa in a bill. Put Jon Benet Ramsey into that suitcase and then try to get that suitcase out the window or or try to move her at some point and drops her creating the fracture on the skull and then at some point goes aw. I can't physically carry her out of here so now I just have to leave so I think the physical limitations can come into play. Because you don't have to carry her down to the basement because you're saying a bill and she feels comfortable dribble and she showed you the basement before you can just say. Hey can you show me the basement again. And now you're at the crime scene regarding I I gotta go go through your stuff here real quick before we move on if I find you in my house in the middle of the night. There's no explanation. You're getting a free right to the county jail and you're GonNa get to stay the night there for free as well but I get what you know you're not. You're going to leave my house in the ambulance. If you're if you're at the kitchen table with my daughter at midnight one o'clock dress as Santa Claus. You're GONNA be going to the hospital the other thing that I I wanted to kind of echo here captain is. I don't know how well you can trust these handwriting samples to eliminate someone I'm with you. I think it's very strange that they use that word. Well we analyze allies so and so's handwriting and determined that they did not write the ladder and we know that they've made patsy Ramsey right the note over four times one of John Ramsey's worker partners Merriman they had him right over seven times so they just take one sample bowl from bill. or or what what you want to do in those situations as an investigator. Is You want to collect a handwriting sample sample that you believe to be something that this person wrote before your. They're asking them to write something for you Brian. So and we know Oh that did happen in the case of John and Patsy Ramsey. We know that did happen in some of the other Suspects or people that were looked at as as well. But where I'm going with this whole. How can we eliminate somebody with a handwriting? Sample t t to just kind of Echo your point one. There is very strong reason to believe that the author was wearing gloves at the time that they wrote this letter. There's also reason to I believe and this is based off of the expert's opinion. This is not dumb nick. crispy colonel the notorious and I see here in the garage. You coming up with a AH with a stupid opinion. But the experts have stated that they have reason to believe that it's possibly authored by a right handed individual that was choosing to write the letter left handed. They believe this so much that they conducted a study to determine how long it would take a right handed person to write. This letter left handed. The average time that they came out with was thirty five minutes. That's copying being the no from a note that you would have brought with you Or in this case for the purpose of these tests that they were conducting. They're looking at the ransom letter and copying it then with their left hand. I don't WanNa get too much into the note because as we've already shown you can get wrapped up in a two hour conversation about the note it so this is talk it again. I just want to point out that I think that is very difficult. And I think it's actually irresponsible to say that you're going to eliminate people based off of handwriting sample and to your point as well captain especially if you have somebody that you've only collected one sample from them. The other thing I want to point out is that I was reading. A lot of speculation came from multiple Internet sources. That after the murder Santa Bill would talk about that he also had a member. How Jon Benet was his special friend that he didn't have too many any special friends but he had special friend earlier? And I've I've looked everywhere for this. I have found found names but I can't find any proof of this at all other than he was saying that he had another special friend. That was actually bird. I think five years before and was a seven-year-old boy again I found two different names for that seven year old boy but but I cannot find any proof that this boy existed or was murdered or anything. I shied away from that on purpose purpose because some of the information I found suggested that the the child was was sick was terminally ill then in passed away away from some type of illness which is fine. But when you go round telling of Andrzej people that you had another special friend that was murdered. That's a little strange if there weren't murdered well if in fact he said that if the if the child died of of an illness he's not going to be telling people that and again I I do want to point out. We don't have any real strong evidence here saying bill truly does weird me out the more I look at him the more he weirds me out and I don't just mean I'm not talking about appearance I'm talking about actions and and things surrounding him in his name as it relates to this case I would would love to sit down for a couple beers or even a couple cup of coffee with the. Da that once said this was my hot as he. This was my i prime suspect I wanNA know why this particular. Da believed that they could not eliminate him after so many others. Say That you you could I do. I do very much shit. Be Look when when we know for fact that they're releasing information attention to the media stating that it had to be inside job because there's no footprints have seen all these idiots online. Say while while you know there was no footprints and it says simple as to DC all the photos of that day and when you find out that they're not only is there a roadway that goes up to two driveway that goes to the House that you know has all these sidewalks have no snow on eh one eight you just not walked through the grass. It it's it baffles me that they would put out this information knowing knowing that it's false well. There was no footprints in the snow so therefore it had to be inside job. But you're not telling the full story. It's not fully covered in snow so it just drives me nuts and then so all these other and look. I'm not saying that the Ramsey's are innocent. What I'm saying is that you have to investigate everybody equally? And it doesn't seem like that happened here too are you saying is full full of shit law enforcement police that I was talking about the district attorney. I want to know why this district attorney says and publicly states. What's that at one time? This guy was my prime suspect. I would love to know what they're basing that off of in comparison to what law enforcement was is facing off that we can eliminate this guy. I do even as weird as as as I feel about Santa Bill. I do question the likelihood of his involvement and I will I will echo some of their opinion stating that I. I don't believe that he was in the best physical condition in having heart surgery just five months before the murder right. I also one thing that I wonder about too when we talk about having physical evidence in this case I mind you yes. The crime scene is contaminated. I'm I will believe nothing other than that statement. Right there. One hundred percent I think everybody involved even the idiots that are involved say but it's contaminated. We're talking about an individual that has a long white beard than that's it's not we didn't have a hundred people walk in that home that night or that next morning had a long white beard Danny Bay with a appeared to me. It's not the hair so much of the beard meaning. Look if you're not carrying her her then chances are the hair wouldn't get on her but if they're if we believe that there was a sexual assault that we believe that that they would find something. I think it'd be more likely that they would find some kind of dry skin because the beard will really dry out your skin and so that would find some kind of dry skin that would link him not so much a hair and then with the hair even if you found hair you have the argument that two days beforehand or on the twenty third that this person is in the House the Senate vigils in the House and that would give you reason to believe that you'd find their DNA or fingerprints anywhere correct but for me if it was was an intruder that killed Jon Benet. The only way that works is that there was a sexual assault. This means there was a violent and physical struggle. That took place at someplace some point in that home very likely in that wine cellar. And that's where I would suspect the find more physical evidence of our offender in regards to Jesse mcreynolds. We mentioned his kidnapping conviction. That data. That's what Kinda put him in front of the police's is and it certainly sounds interesting but I think that we should point out that that charge that conviction of kidnapping. It sounds much more ominous than it truly was the facts of that case for my understanding standing captain. He held up a gas station. Rob The place of just a little more than one hundred dollars and he used a gun during the commission of that robbery. Sorry and he moved the clerk basically from one side of the building or store to the other side and and at the time in Arizona. They're law they're saying if you move a person from point A. to Point B. Using a weapon you've technically kidnapped that the individual so where where I go to. If this was an intruder one of the motives may have been actual well kidnapping right so it makes this guy sound interesting. However that is not what his his previous charge and conviction was was four? It's a very very very different type of crime so while we're on the subject I think that is a good segue to our next possible suspect or someone who was considered a suspect suspect at some point Gary Merriman Gary Merriman was accessed graphics director of human resources. He publicly stated the he felt that he was a suspect he previously worked fourteen years in criminal justice as a psychologist including years at the Florida Department amount of corrections. He's kind of a natural fit. I think for at least some questioning by police. Of course detectives are going to look into individuals working working for working with access graphics. He is also the man that answered the phone. The morning of what was believed at the time to be a kidnapping when John John Ramsey called his work and forming them as to what was going on or what he believed was going on right. I think it's fair for Merriman to say that. He considered himself a suspect not because he considered himself to be guilty of anything or look suspicious. He's he's sedating the the the actions of the detectives indicated to him that he must be considered a suspect but I think they had him give over seven handwriting samples. He was questioned multiple times. He gave as you stated at least seven handwriting samples. He also provided police with his fingerprints. He gave blood and he gave hair as well. I can't find any documentation to state that the any of this evidence it would be a match to evidence collected at the scene there have been many reports that state that regarding the handwriting analysis. That merryman could not be ruled out as a possible author of the ransom letter. Yeah I've actually seen that. He was on the higher spectrum. Tom As far as a match goes higher than even Patsy Ramsey was and I know we just said that I said that. I think it's irresponsible to say. We've eliminated aided somebody based off of handwriting analysis but we should point out that out of all the handwriting samples that they took most of these. These people were quote unquote ruled out or eliminated right and then we have very few that that stayed on the list of people. We cannot rule out now. Merriman Merriman just like several other people in this case who were questioned multiple times or the request for multiple handwriting samples asked by police. He's one of several. The stood up in his own defense to the police in said something to the effect of you know. I'm here assisting assisting you and cooperating in your investigation where are the ramseys. What are they doing at this time? You've talked to me Multiple Times you've asked me for this this and this and I've provided this this and this to you. What is going on with the case that that they are not being looked at some of these individuals I I believe that they really felt that? They were beating being treated unfairly. And the eyes of the detectives and the police now Gary Merriman is not not an individual that John Ramsey told the police that they should look into. But Geoff. Merrick is somebody and has also somebody that Gary Merriman Said said. The police should look into. Yeah in the basic story of Geoff Merrick is. He's an ex access graphics employees. He met John Ramsey in nineteen seventy-one want. He knew him for a very long time. He met him when they both worked at. At and T.. In Columbus Ohio now he was one of the individuals that helped nope Ramsey start access or whatever the micro south or whatever it was called at the time he quit in nineteen ninety six fix. This is win. According to Merrick when the the company was in trouble and the Ram and Ramsey needed a cut some salaries calories so he says access graphics owed him one hundred eighteen thousand dollars. Yeah well that's an interesting interesting amount. Apparently they settled and he did receive half of that money. He did file ethics violations with the corporate headquarters at Lockheed Martin which owned access graphics according to the Book Death of innocence on page sixty fifty six. This is John. Ramsey's words Geoff Merrick who had threatened to bring me and access graphics down when he left the company in Nineteen Z. Ninety six so as you were pointing out captain. This is an individual that John Ramsey name by name on day one when asked by police and detectives do you have any enemies while yet because he was making threats to. Yeah so he names Geoff Merrick as an enemy we have John. Sorry Gerry Merriman for for the last four weeks I've been wanting to call a guy. John Merriman his. Name's Gary Nick. It's Gary Anyway Gary Merriman says that Jeff America would be the an enemy as well and then we have Nedra. NEDRA is patsies mother. Okay when she he is asked for a list of suspects she included Geoff Merrick and his vicious wife. Which is Kathy Merrick? One little known fact inside the story that That I think gets lost in. I don't know how important it is. But it's interesting stink for the makeup of the company and the makeup of John Success and Patsy and her family and relationship to John. Success her the father was very much involved in all of John. Ramsey's businesses okay. He helped Ramsey as as Patsy Z.. Helped John set up his businesses. Initially when his company was in trouble financially. It was patsies his father that bailed him out with alone and to further that at one point. We have his father in law. John Ramsey's father-in-law patsy Z.. Ramsey's father working for John Ramsey. So this statement by Nedra from patsies mother is not just simply somebody who's on the outside outside looking in who just overheard this from John and Patsy. This is somebody that has insider knowledge of things going on and access graphics. According to Kathy Merrick and Geoff Merrick their alibi for the night. In question is they visited Kathy's brother in law in Aurora Colorado and then visited Dick and Diane Foot and they were home around eight PM Watch. TV and then went to bat so not a great alibi and the stuff that I see in front of me here. Captain States that they did not cooperate in the sense of giving fingerprints blood hair handwriting samples. I couldn't find a confirmation that those things were provided from. Geoff Merrick to do the authorities. I will say this. He was questioned multiple times and he did answer their questions and he to just Gary Merriman was one. That said I'm here. You're answering your questions. Where is John Ramsey? He's accused me of this of being a suspect. And I'm reading in the papers that you guys are unable to speak to do the Ramsey family. Were they able to test his DNA to do you know chess information that I have states that none of that was provided to police. But they're pretty pretty much kinda rolled him out I again. I don't have any information stating that. They ruled amount. I the information I have states. He was questioned multiple times to which he ultimately ended up getting confrontational with them in the end because he's reading in the paper and seeing on TV that the RAMSEYS are untouchable and they won't answer the polices questions. But here you are disrupting my personal life right by asking me the same questions on several occasions. Those Kitto Guy. Chris Wolf Yeah. His real name is Robert Christian Wolff. He's extremely interesting to me for a number of reasons one. He's not somebody that was on the inner circle of the Ramseys or on the inner circle of access graphics. This is like an unknown intruder. He comes to our attention from his girlfriend. His girlfriend Jackie Adilson. She comes forward to police in states. 'cause remember there is a time that's going on here where the the police and the ramseys are asking the public for their help so she comes forward to boulder police estates. Did it. Chris Wolf was out all night long regarding the night in question and when he came home he was covered in mud and he was acting acting extremely strange. This is all her opinion. Obviously the weird connection he may have. Is this kind of furthers. Is this suspicion along here. Is this same girlfriend ads. The he should be considered a suspect in the death in the murder of Suzanne Suzanne Chase who was killed December. Twenty first nineteen ninety-seven wolf apparently dated Suzanne Chase at some appoint his knowledge regarding the Ramseys or the case itself. He was a journalist who worked as a reporter therefore Colorado daily and for the Boulder County business reports and apparently he interviewed Cheryl McGraw. Who is a secretary? The AD access graphics he comes onto our radar again by a tip from his girlfriend at the time. It states here now. This is his own claims so I cannot back this up. But Wolf was a guest on the O'Reilly relief factor and this was from May of two thousand two thousand where he states in his interview that he did provide fingerprints and hair air and handwriting samples again. That's his claims. The weird thing about Chris Wolf though is his alibi is completely the opposite statement. Eight minutes from his girlfriend's Chris Wolf says I was in bed early approximately nine thirty or ten PM. I did not wake up or get up or go out until the next morning right. According to the book perfect murder perfect town it does state the Chris Wolf did provide his DNA and it was not a match for what they were looking looking for the next one. We're going to have to call the unknown suspect and this is in reference to a crime that occurred just nine months after her job in a was murdered. This takes place in an affluent part of boulder not terribly far from the ramseys home. A mother and her twelve year old daughter came home from the movies. They are alone in their home. It's late the MOM sets the burglar alarm and goes to bed. An intruder crept into the girl's bedroom. He put his hand over. The girl's mouth said the girl's name and told her he knew her he. He starts a sexual assault and it's believed he was working toward a possible abduction of this girl as well but the mother she wakes up she hears noises and goes to her daughter's room she sees the man he runs and he goes out of a a bedroom window jumps off the roof to the ground below and flees the area. The man was dressed in all black from head to toe and wearing a mask mask. This twelve year old girl attended the same dance studio as Jon. Benet the dance West Studio. This person has never for been identified and we have the father of the victim who says he believes that the intruder may have already been hiding inside the home mm-hmm when the mother and daughter returned to the house just waiting there to attack this girl right. We've seen that and a lot of different cases. Seems like to me like like this is a great lead in something that law enforcement should a follow up on more because we have that connection of the dance studio in and having the especially A Predator that is able to go to a place that he knows that kids are going to be at he can walk in there freely really basically stock these individuals and then attack them their home the dance studio very well could have nothing to do with that attack right. He's a weird connection to getting us back to Johnnie's case their home not being terribly far from the ramseys the right the a second crime taking place just nine months later. Those are all very weird things that really put a chance that this offender is somehow somehow in the the circle of the Ramseys or the neighborhood or that dance studio is really truly interesting and the other thing too. I WANNA point out for me anyway. If the intruder theory in the Ramsey case is in fact correct then I believe that we need to have a certain level of criminal sophistication. Where here we have that? And this particular crime we see somebody. The is good at getting into the home. They got close to the assault salt. They were seeking potential abduction of this girl and they were able to flee the area without being identified. Okay so there is some sophistication there but way back in two thousand and four Erin. Moriarty reported the following the Boulder District Attorney. Investigators haven't completely rolled out anyone and have a list of people they'd like to talk to reportedly more than one hundred names. It's a list that still includes Gerry. Olivia and anyone. 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