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You're listening to the briefing first broadcast on the tenth of January twenty nineteen on Monaco twenty four. Live from the Dory. House in London. This is the briefing. I'm Ben Ryland coming up US Democrats accused the president of throwing a temper tantrum. He asked speaker Pelosi. Will you agree to my wall? She said, no. And he just got up and said, then we have nothing to discuss. And he just walked down. Again, we saw a temper tantrum Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi aren't backing down north seems is the president will also find out what's making news across the Balkans. And we've got the latest from the world's leading menswear event PD womb. Oh in Florence. That's all ahead on the briefing live from London studying now. Donald Trump has extinguished any possibility of reopening, the US government after Nancy Pelosi reiterated that there would be no funding for a border wall. Fellow senior democrat Chuck Schumer emerged shortly after the meeting appearing quite alarmed at what he called a temper tantrum by the US president. Again, we saw a temper tantrum because he couldn't get his way. And he just walked out of the meeting. I asked him to open up the government that tomorrow, so many people will have trouble paying their mortgages paying their bills dealing with situations when they don't get paid. And I sip just why won't you do that? We'll continue to discuss we're willing to discuss anything. And he said, you if I open up the government, you won't do what I want. That's cruel. That's callous, and that's using millions of innocent people as sort of pawns, and it was wrong. Chuck Schumer speaking outside the White House. Jacob parakeet is on the line hasty deputy head of the US end America's program at Chatham house. Jacob as of this Friday, this shutdown will tie with the longest in US history. Is there any strategy here? Well, I think the Democrats have a strategy which is essentially to hold out because public polling suggests that the public largely blames Trump for the shutdown and that the idea of building a wall across the entirety of the US Mexico border is pretty unpopular. So I don't think that they newly empowered by having taken over the house of representatives just last week. I don't think they feel any particular pressure to concede to Trump. I don't think they think there's much benefit in conceding without getting some significant kind of. Concessions from him Trump? I don't think have strategy. I don't think he has seen these kind of tactics fail quite so spectacularly before. And I don't think he has a backup plan. So the question as it's been for the last few days is what's the off ramp for him who's capable offering him that. And how can he be kind of talked into it? Because of course, what he says he wants one day is not necessarily what he says he wants or indicates otherwise that he wants the next just looking at that footage of Chuck Schumer emerging from the White House. He did seem to be genuinely rattled by the encounter that he had with President Trump, which of course, famously seemed to end with him saying bye bye. Of the I suppose as being characterized by some as a short negotiation, although it didn't really seem to take that sort of frame at all do you think that that the Democrats odd genuinely shocked by just how badly relations have become during the shutdown? I think Schumer's reaction was probably about the the fact of seeing the president of the United States. And obviously I wasn't in the room and characterizations of what happened differ, but the person the United States willing to sort of continue this shutdown doing increasing and compounding damage to the federal government, and everyone who depends on it in exchange for basically not being able to but not be willing to budge at all on this central and frankly, pretty unreasonable to mand for an arbitrary barrier on the US Mexico border. So I don't know that Schumer was shocked by the sort of by the fact of the intransigence as the way of of it's exp. Depression. I think even after two years of the Trump presidency people are still adapting to the fact that this is someone who is fundamentally different in character and approach to the processes of governing than anyone who's occupied the office in living memory. There has been some attempt at making light of the encounter. For example, the Neo post reported that the president had handed out sweets during the short discussion, including skittles and M and M's withhold. But of course, the news is less wait for those people who are actually feeling the effects of the shutdown, particularly those who are employed in some essential roles, of course, food safety inspections, for example of slowed Ryan down there's no guarantee on eve, or of course, when funding might run out thirty eight million Americans at risk of losing, their food stamps and thousands more people who might be housing tenants the face eviction without assistance from the department of housing his any of that kind of thinking as far as you can tell factoring into how the Republic. Tackling this crisis. I think that kind of thing is increasingly pressing on the minds of Republican senators, especially Republican senators from states that might be up for grabs in the twenty twenty presidential and senatorial election people like Susan Collins and Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia have indicated that there they'd be willing to reopen the government or at least vote for a Bill to reopen. The government, of course, you'd need. If Trump threatened to veto it you'd need two thirds of the house and two thirds of the Senate. So a significant number of both Republicans and Democrats willing to pass a Bill over the president's veto. I don't know that many Republicans certainly there are some who are immigration hardliners and support to the hill the president's call for a wall. But I think the this sort of median Republican member of congress probably wants to put this behind them and have some kind of negotiation in the future about a wall. Rather than holding the the the? The increasing sort of number of Americans impacted by this shutdown at ransom in order to provide for it. But willingness to buck the leader of the party, even in the in the immediate wake of a fairly unsuccessful election. I think is still pretty hard to come by just very quickly. And finally on this Jacob shortly after the mid terms there was some people who thought that Trump came out. Okay. That election and others who who thought differently is this proof the haves that. In fact, the Trump presidency is now in quite unfamiliar territory one which that it might not actually know how to navigate. Yeah. I think that's a pretty fair read. I mean, Trump has not done any kind of elected office before he's not being an elected leader is new to him and the entire context that he has for it was a United government under Republican leadership in the house and Senate. So this is a very new set of operating principles for him and the people around him by and large are not people with a huge amount of government experience. Either Mick Mulvaney. The new chief of staff hasn't really worked with a divided government. Well, he he's been a number of Republican House. He's never seen a democratic house as a as a member. So I think there's not necessarily the the kind of experience around Trump that could guide him successfully to what he could claim victory. Jacob kayla's. Thank you for joining us on the briefing. It's eight minutes past twelve here in London. We'll get the latest business news now from Sebastian sale. Like on the line from Bloomberg Sebastian Ford, cutting thousands of jobs in Europe. They are this is part of a bid to return the business to profitability a board restructuring, and it could include closing factories as well said it'd been struggling with an aging model lineup for a while the contracting market in the UK, which is the Ford's biggest market in Europe out, of course, further disruption in store, given Brexit just around the corner. So they wanna call the less profitable models from the lineup review their joint venture in Russia in the US, by the way that already dropping several sedans. So this is something that's affecting the company globally this as the comic is grappling with fundamental technology changes the move to electric vehicle self driving vehicles tougher environmental regulations, especially following the the the diesel scandal started with VW trade tensions as well. Between. In the US and China's a multitude of issues piling onto the historic called make last year. They kicked off eight company-wide eleven billion dollar restructuring. That was after both Europe and Asia Swanson losses on the cost of investing in electric and self driving cars mounting as well. So it's a real turning point four call companies in general at the moment technology changing global pressures Pauline down on them a lot of contend with. And that's really being felt today at Ford we'll moving along to it rather fascinating one about the right to be forgotten. Google seems to have won the latest round on this one. Yeah. That's right. This is the classic tossup between privacy and freedom of speech. If you've go to shady history, and you still have done time for that whatever shoot to be able to have that deleted from Google and the court found the Google shouldn't have this is the the European Court of Justice found the Google shouldn't have to apply this writes globally. This follows an advisory opinion from the court. And usually what happens is off to these opinions. The final ruling comes out and. And they tend to stick to what happens in the opinion was decided in the opinion. This court said search engine operators have to take every measure available to remove access to links to data or information about the person on request and Google has been fighting these efforts as being led by FRANZ has previously watchdog they created this right in a landmark ruling back in twenty fourteen out for a should say Google, currently removing links e you wide since twenty six dean, and they restrict access a few in the EU country the same you country as the person concerned, they restrict access to non eagles sizes coach geo blocking says already afford protection that but they've been inundated with requests, the leagues have had two point nine million websites involved with these requests so fall off to the court first of all effectively put Google in charge of deciding what request to accept. So this question rolls on in this occasion. Google has come up trumps quite a spot is whether the topic that one Sebastian thank you for joining us that was the best and selling at Bloomberg. You're listening to the briefing. Eleven. Minutes past the hour. Let's continue now with some of the top stories from the Boeken's Monaco's correspondent there in Lubiana guide alone. As on the line a guy Macedonia today in the final debate for its name change to north Macedonia a small change as far as the letters are concerned. But rather big in other aspects, isn't it I was very big on its goals. We've had a lot of shenanigans and drama getting to this stage. Ben, not not least with the the referendum, which we had in Macedonia few months ago towards the end of last year when we had a massive majority of those who voted in favor, but not a big enough turn out because the opposition at staged a boycott in an attempt to torpedo the whole thing. But somehow Prime Minister Zoran Zeioiev coupled together, a two-thirds majority in parliament by a combination of some political dealing of which Lyndon B Johnson would have been proud. I think to get this to get this process underway to rename the country, north Macedonia. It's gone through another stage just before Christmas. Right now, we're in the final stage parliamentary debate four amendments, including the crucial one about changing, the country's name to north Macedonia. The debate needs to be finished by the fifteenth of January and more on the second day of the debate of the moment. And once again, a two-thirds majority is needed. You can bet they'll be some serious Alm twisting and sugaring of bitter pills. Absolutely more twists than your average. Soap opera, let's move along. Now to some other news happening in the region guy Kosovo in Serbia a trading. Some other terse words all over tariffs of all the wom- side to trade wool when one side puts up a one hundred percent tariff on the other side doesn't respond. But this is what's happened between Kosovo and Serbia in the NBA Kosovo imposed this one hundred percent tariff on imports from Serbia, it's still, and that's despite just two days ago, the European Union's foreign policy chief federal KOMO Ghedini telling them to stop it. Please once again on this. I dunno. Maybe a dozen times. We've had you officials saying can you please for goodness sake lift this tariff because it doesn't fit in with what Kossovo is aiming to do at wants to join the European Union wants to normalize relations with Serbia in order to do that. And as part of this process of going towards European Union membership. It's a member of the Central European Free trade association, which guarantees Tara free trade. So it's haunt really to see. And I still can't quite see what we'll call surveys long game on this as it's actually succeeding and making Serbia. Look look diplomatic and statesmanlike which is. On a not inconsiderable feet bearing in mind the history between these two indeed. Well, let's stay in Serbia now because there's been some ongoing protests against the president. They they will allow that rather large over the Christmas period. Wouldn't they it's interesting this how do you play this one out as a journalist reporting on the region, we've had crowds of thousands paps, even tens of thousands and deal saying as many as fifty thousand turning out on five successive Saturdays in Belgrade protesting against president Alexander Vujic. And this saying that he has to strong control over the media. And the he's overseen an atmosphere where political opponents are intimidated to the point where one of them bore cost a fan of which was actually beaten up and left unconscious in November. And this is what the protesting against and in some ways, the very valid points. But then you look at what this means in the great scheme of things when does a protest becomes significant. And then you look at the. The opinion polls which put both Mr. Vujic himself in his Progressive Party firmly past fifty percent in the approval ratings and the voting intentions of the Serbian people. So the question is, of course, although only saying not because the media is being manipulated to make them feel that mister Vujic. The only answer I think it's wrong that the opposition is extremely splintered on what Serbia needs, and what these protests is showing. It needs is a United opposition to prevent to present a strong interlocutor of you like to Mr. view does Progressive Party locally, plenty to be keeping you busy guide alone in Lubiana. Thank you for joining us. You're listening to the briefing. Now, a look at what else is making news today. St Louis is foreign minister in Bangkok Canberra considered an asylum application by an eighteen year old Saudi woman who says her family won't kill her RAV Muhammed L Conan is currently at a band called hotel under the care of the United Nations refugee agency. She was initially refused entry to Thailand but late a barricaded himself inside a transit lounge and refused to board a flight back to Saudi Arabia. China has accused Canada of double standards and says the nation is disregarding. It's judicial sovereignty the Chinese ambassadors. Comments came as a diplomatic row continues liver the arrest of while way, executive Ming Wong shoe at the request of the United States and an open letter by the European Union's parliamentary delegation for relations has sharply criticized what it calls the White House's increasingly harmful approach. Coach to transatlantic relations. The fifty eight member delegation is calling on congress to help strengthen and not undermined ties. This is the briefing. It's seventeen minutes past twelve here in London we are off to Florence now pity womb. Oh, the men's with is in full swing Monaco's fashion editor Jimmy waters is there and joins us on the line, Jamie. We'll get to Florence in a moment. But first some news about Paris's upcoming fashion week, which of course, he's studying next week. It seems that some of the brands of feeling a little bit jittery considering all of the protests that have been going on over there. Yes. Hi, ben. Yeah. We've we've received a few sort of grantee emails in the past twenty four hours about consenting brands can you at times that times date runway shows? So this is these these but next week ten and so far feel and the way they which both join brand they have changed. Theo has changed to a day before they've moved type Luay has changed from. I think they wish my in the afternoon on this on the that. And then now showing the morning basically these brands went to avoid showing on Saturday afternoon when she's when a lot of protests have taken place in power. And you know, they said it was a sort of multi in months, you know, usually a couple of months in advance very unusual for brands to change. And you, you know, you're going to get problems. So ready? The why show is now at the same time as another brand, you know, that's gonna. To know the numbers, obviously. So I'm, you know, it's an interesting thing that taught me and always say, the luxury sector has been hit has been really hod by the protests, and you know, some of the LVMH on doors have been vandalizing the protests. And this is something that that was in eighteen about this showing the center of power, they always showing in grand building right in the middle of the city. So you know, they're trying to avoid that. But he's kind of surgency to to these Aimo. So, you know, it's a something. That's no, I don't same full. Absolutely. A one can only imagine the nightmare must be just to just affect during everyone's schedules. But of course, there is all the logistics behind it as well that thankfully of cool still a couple of days to go perhaps they can pull it off about. Of course, let's bring outlines back to Florence because that's where you rut now full PT woma, and it seems the effects of climate change are on the minds of people in the fashion industry as well. Yes. So I mean, it kind of upset about these now bright sunny day at the moment and kind of around that co tarring that coats in the hand, basically what, you know today thinking to a few people about about how young seasonably warm winter especially in easily how it's affected the sales. And basically, I mean for the last couple of years, we've had you know, big brand Brent begins brands like Zara H, how about how warm winters have really to this. I and and some of these Italian brands, I was speaking to a small Italian brand called the JJ. He was basically saying that if they've had it that got a really won't wind saw and basically the men's wear especially men a lot of men by when they need to when they feel when it's getting a bit code dot, then they will buy something. But you you say the in October November. Aw, you save twenty degree days. Sorry. That's just nothing. No need for that. The problems the brands. He's not by December win it. Use the code that is already that. So many CEOs time to sort of you know, you could black Friday at the end of the ball in December. He's you know, a lot of sort of holiday say by then is it in rushing, you know, the Russian club that had it sold anything yet. So it really is. The problem is a lot of brand, and you know, with thing already at PC disease and saying Brent's tried to address that we they knew collection on overseas business, then you we'd to which will come out end up, you know, in like August September this year. But what they do is west west saying less to the really heavy chunky house away. So we did JJ that doing a lot of Larry I have other brands during a lot of Larry King bacon. Stuck to quote sort of fine. Marina paces I-, Rebecca Kalina. She's another Italian brand they were saying they've taken billing out of a little bit coat. So it's just that just sort of unstructured and and much lies. Oh, well, I would be moving happy to wear a coat and scarf regardless of the season all year round. But of course, that is just me, and sadly, I don't really have much of an effect on the fashion calendar. Jimmy WADA's we will have to leave it there. But thank you very much for joining us from wamu influence on the briefing. And at twenty two minutes past the hour. It's time now for a look through today's newspapers with monocle Bill Ludi Bill, I up the Washington Post story here about beak pharmaceuticals, undermining the food and Drug administration. Tell me more about that. Would you believe it Ben big pharma doing bad things? Patients. Stuck in corporate fight against generic drugs. Is the headline basically, it's a story about biologic drugs, which doing excellent things for you know, the the the big the big issues like hunter arthritis serious diseases like that. And these are made naturally using Factoria. They found cheaper chemical versions of these drugs which have widely used in Europe and around the world and these pharma companies in the US kind of using scare tactics to push people away from them. Yeah. The the drugs companies doctors in leaving the already insane costs of healthcare in the US up. It's just a matter really getting the word out that these kind of these not the natural versions of these drugs. Just as good. Yeah. Sometimes fifty percent of the of the price. You know, these absolutely science is very very different to what the marketing departments of some of these big is you do companies. We'll be telling you, it's very worrying it can be very confusing for people, of course, to really understand who's saying what Bill sadly at time is against us. Take us to the New York Times where this story here about obesity in China, and there's a connection to Coca Cola. Yeah. I mean, how how possibly could be connected another huge company acting in their own interests. Would you believe? Yeah. There's a there's a happy Inten happy ten minutes campaign currently going around schools in China, encouraging children to do ten minutes of exercise a day to some. That seems ridiculous. Apparently, it's a bit of a pro exercises. A bit of a problem. But nothing is being said about the vast amounts of sugary junk, food, and drinks that people are consuming the children, especially the boys that Ben. Oh, it's because there's a huge lobby group paid for by companies like Nestle, McDonald's, Pepsi, yum, and Coca Cola pushing the government towards exercise rather than you know, promoting exercise rather than adding things like we've got here shook attacks and creating awareness for these fizzy drinks. So basically, they're just saying, yeah, you know, we need we need to push exercise. We need to push exercise will encourage you to exercise. But will also encourage you to buy coke. You can cause long as you do ten minutes of exercise a day is apparently now they've been found out coke said that they're going to look the way that they fund signs in science kind of projects around the world. But that's just the case of them being found out now, they're backtracking. So, you know, not coke what a gracious movement from from coke there. Unfortunately, we're out of time. But we wanted to get to a story in the LA times about shut down causing chaos at Joshua tree. But we will have to leave it that you can read the Los Angeles Times for more on that story. You're listening to the briefing. Twenty five minutes past twelve four many of us the unique format an orderly construction of a printed newspaper delivers information in a way that nothing else can and for Thomas Bernhardt, it's vanishing all too quickly. He's the protagonist of beloved newspaper Rita a book by Mikhail and Gila which chronicled the vanishing world of printed papers monocle recently, adapted the book into an audio cereal and all this week. We're getting a sneak peek his pot full of the series. The newspaper is still a part of all of that. But all of that is slowly disappearing because the papers disappearing it may be the case that this process will go on for years centuries. Even maybe the case, the newspaper will even experience a small renaissance, but still it is disappearing. No one's in doubt of that. But not everyone recognizes the loss that this disappearance entails a whole culture is in fact as appearing and I'm not intern able to discern that this culture is giving way to a new one. That's just as rich. Even though I have for a long time been a resident of both worlds, the analog and the digital. And by now, spend more time on Spiegel online than reading the effort said the daily paper is disappearing because it is outdated because a day no longer rules over the flow of information. That's true. But the speed which newspaper falls out of date was already an issue when only newspapers existed there's nothing older than yesterday's newspaper is the signature of the newspaper era. But that doesn't always hold true. This sentence. Didn't hold true for d for example, when he was in hospital reading the F said that he'd bought at the kiosk the previous day. Neither does it. Hold true for anyone who's on holiday on the country yesterday's newspaper is the best proof that you'll really somewhere else on vacation. You can only get yesterday's paper. If you've got your hands on a German newspaper from the same day, you may as well, go straight back home you not on holiday. That's how it was in the golden age of newspaper reading that's how it still is today. We spent Allah some holiday in Brittany. We rented a small house with a family. We're close to the hamlet a few kilometers from the coast. You couldn't boy newspapers in town. There wasn't any shops at all. But of course, we had our laptops with us, and we'd get a guilty conscience whenever we booted them up not only to keep abreast of the Gaza war and Spiegel online. But also to fritter away time on Facebook. The father of the family didn't go on Facebook, very often he read German newspapers on the end set set on his ipad. And when later in the day, we visited the small town on the sea. He bought Lamont LeBron's and the canal on. I kept quiet about the fact I was wondering about newspaper reading that. I might even ROY little book about it. I didn't want him to feel like he was being observed and change his behavior a problem. That's well known in the field of ethnology. If I told him he might not have routinely shoved the newspaper in his trouser pocket and started through the small port town from who streets. Newspapers had as good as disappeared whereby you have to admit that the place may be pretty, but it's geared up for regional tourism Benelux crime stories, which Lear so many people to Brittany I'll set elsewhere foreign papers were available in the stationery shop, but you have to ask for them the shop assistant through an unsorted bundle on the table from which I pulled out the previous day's Georgia and sat down in the cafe opposite from which the melody of a hit by alphaville emanated. I flick through these deutscher, and I looked over at the fishing boats, which were dozing in the midday sun in the end. I'd only read the spotlight section, which I hardly ever read in Berlin anymore, although I often intend to so I hadn't read a lot. But I had read de Gloser who is tirico commentary, which is one of the best things about the newspaper, which I read all too seldom it felt good. L also only read a fraction of the French newspapers. He'd bought he immersed himself in the canal on Chennai least of all the articles in the NADA, certainly very challenging. But the fact that he read so little of it low. His French is enviable studied in Paris had another reason reading highbrow newspapers on holidays like reading the local program to see what you could do that evening only to fall asleep in front of the television as soon as you get home from work on average. You might read two articles the main one on the front page and medium size one inside the paper. Most attempts to save the newspaper assume that people want to read newspaper. They don't consider that people might procure a newspaper simply to be able to read it after all that wouldn't make much sense. But that's how it is in many cases, and it applies to periodical magazines, even more. So so not only did my friend hardly read the cannot Oceana. He also didn't work through the bundle of New Yorkers. We brought along for him before getting on the plane with his family. He given us a suitcase that we had to squeeze into our cars we've box we assumed it contained clothes and toys can never crossed our minds that someone would have old issues of the New Yorker delivered to him. Neither is the obvious purpose of a collection of New Yorkers to read back issues on holiday, nor is the obvious purpose of a holiday to read old New Yorkers, but it did have its purpose. He read a couple of articles and seemed satisfied this too is well known from the history of ethnology the researcher take. On the behavior of their research subject. We went on a trip to pain poll with the firm intention of buying a novel. I went into a bookshop and found a novel about Paris under your Pompidou later. I read about twenty pages on the beach. Never touched it again. It wasn't bad. But you should have bought Pierre's, Latinos, and Iceland fisherman. I told myself that one is set in po-. Then again, I wouldn't have read any more of an Iceland fisherman, then of Paris under George Pompidou. That was the fourth installment of Monaco's audio cereal the last newspaper reader by Mikhail and Gillam, you can listen to the full story by tuning into our print industry review program, the stack you can find all the details at our website, and we'll have part five of that series owned Morris edition of the briefing. Well, that's all for today's show. It was produced by Marcus hippy and researched by your lingo, go fund. And Nick money's L studio manager with David Stevens. Join us for the briefing at the same time tomorrow and Juliette foster. Is in this chair for today's edition of Midori house? That's going live at eighteen hundred here in London thirteen hundred if you're in New York, I'm Ben Ryan. That's the briefing goodbye.

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