Musicians Robbie Fulks & Linda Gail Lewis
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Support for this podcast comes from the Neubauer family foundation, supporting WHYY's, fresh air and its commitment to sharing ideas and encouraging meaningful conversation. This is fresh air. I'm Terry gross. A hope you're enjoying your thanksgiving. We wanna play something that will Ed here enjoyment of the day. So we're featuring a recent performance and interview with Linda Gail Lewis and Robbie folks Linda Gail Lewis is the younger sister of Jerry Lee Lewis who is aptly described in the rock and Roll Hall of fame as the wild man of rock and roll they grew up in a shack and fair day, Louisiana. She learned to play from watching him. This started performing together when she was fourteen in the early nineteen sixties Jerry Lee Lewis, and Linda Gail Lewis recorded together, and she toured with him for many years in the sixties and seventies before going off on her own. Robbie folks is a songwriter singer. Guitarist? A lot of a songs are in the tradition of classic country music. They're so good. I can't understand why lots of other countries. Singers, haven't recorded them, Linda Gail Lewis and Robbie folks have a new album together called wild wild wild. Most of the songs were written by folks, inspired by roots music, like rockabilly country, and western and soul. We'll hear them before Manar studio, but let's start with something from the album the title track written by folks, Linda, Gail Lewis is featured on piano folks on guitar. I. Damn. Linda Gail Lewis, welcome to fresh air. Robbie folks. Welcome back to fresh air and congratulations on your elbow wild wild wild. So you're from pretty different generation from different parts of the country. How did you get together? And what do you think you bring out in each other? Gosh, Olinda brings out a good mood and me because she's perpetually happy and positive and I'm. Not so much maybe, but she is a constant reminder to me like we did a gig the other night, and I've gotten the van if you remember it was last week and immediately started complaining about that. And she said why thought the gig went great. And I thought I shouldn't open my mouth because if you say it if you say it was so then it kind of is. So, you know, and and so just to smile and have a upbeat attitude toward life is what I get out of her. And I'm just so happy to be working with Robbie. He's a wonderful person. He's a great friend. And and he so very talented, and he's written wonderful songs from a record. So Linda, we just heard a sample of your piano style, which is very similar to your brother, Jerry Lewis, piano style. But you didn't start playing until you're thirty or forty years. I was actually forty you know, I knew the basic chord the piano, you know, like for just accompanying myself if I was writing a song or or just singing a gospel song or a country song or something. But I didn't know how to play rock and roll or boogie Woogie because I'd been on the road with my brother. So that wasn't needed in our act. When I left his band. It was necessary for me to figure it out. And thank goodness. He had shown me a lot of things that. I've fortunately could remember what did he show you? He showed me basically this. I call it the jury they Lewis invention because it's kind of like a buck invention only as for boogie Woogie and rock and roll. He came up with this thing for me to play. And he said if you play this, and you start out really slow, and then work up to speed, then it will open up everything for you in you'll be able to play rock and roll and boogie Woogie, piano. What about the gla Sandoz where your slide down the notes of the piano that just comes naturally to me? I always think I must tear up your hands. It does. Okay. So you in great harmonies together did that come naturally. I mean, Linda, you certainly sang a lot of harmonies with your brother, and you know, my brothers are great Sanger. And so as Robby so it reminds me of doing duets with my brother, and it wasn't hard for me to sing with Robbie. I I love singing with him. Yeah. The first time that we she invited me to sing on our record. What was about eight or nine years ago, and we were in a little studio in Sweden and we'd never saw together before. But it was a tune that you know, is a standard tune that we both know real well, and we opened our mouths and started singing, I found it was extremely comfortable right away like dancing, you know, with an expert partner where Sheila how's me to a lot of freedom and essentially lead, I guess, so I can sing whatever note. I feel I can she she's just on it. She's really intuitively and probably watching the the mouth, but just intuitively on it. So we sat down and saying. Strange. You know that? Oh, yeah. Fell right into place kind of like just that, you know. So you do some great harmonies on an original Robbie that you wrote call. That's why they call it temptation, could you sing some of that for us now. Yes. Of course, it wasn't just the prom. The three. Your. Touch alone that broke. Was. Turn back. We. Laura hearts, see thing. We ran to the wrong. Rates. Back home with her tonight. I'm holding him. But. Oh, thank you for doing that. And that song is an Ravi folks, and Linda Gail Lewis is new album called wild wild wild. But we, of course, we've just heard them perform it here in our studio, you're both from very different backgrounds. So Linda, lemme ask you you grew up in a shack in Louisiana. Would you describe the shack for it? Well, it was this gray building that was kind of like holes in it in places, and we didn't have a bathroom on the inside. We had to bay attend tub out on the porch in the summer or in the kitchen where there's heat in the winter. It was tough. It was hard living there, and it was embarrassing for me when I'd get off the school bus most of the other kids weren't as poor. I didn't see any other shacks exactly like that one may be one or two but still when it's you getting off the bus, and it's your shack. It's it's embarrassing. So. It was hard for me. But you know, I was able to leave their pretty early because you know, my brother got us out of there when I was ten years old. Well, yeah. Because you know, he became famous as Jerry Lewis, he signed with sun records, and people know that story went so it must have really profoundly affected your family life. When when there was money coming in and he became famous. Oh, it was wonderful. We went to Memphis. I remember our first trip to Memphis. It was so great. But of course, the main thing that I remember that Jerry Baldassare Newhouse in town, a nice brick home with everything bathroom on the inside. It was lovely and he gave us a thousand dollars to go. Shopping mama had to dresses wonder where to church and wanted to wear at home. That's all she had. And we took a thousand dollars to Dorsey dress shop fair day, Louisiana and bought everything. They had in our sizes. Everyone in your family made music, right? What? Yes. My momma was a great singer. She was the song leader in our church and daddy played guitar, and he played a little bit of piano. So one thing you have in common in terms of your background as I think, you know, you both grew up in musical families. Although Linda, there was a famous person in your family. We're not just Sterry Lewis. Jimmy Swaggart is your cousin and he's like the famous televangelist if Amos televangelist preacher, but he he performed in those shows too. Didn't he like sing and play? Yes, he did. And he's a wonderful piano player, and he is a wonderful singer. And yeah, he's a great singer. He's a great preacher. And and he was off of TV for a while because of the scandal, but he's back on now. Right. And the scandal involved a prostitute on pornography. Yeah. Although there are some little old ladies that think that he was framed is that true. I did have a couple of people tell me that. Yes. But you don't think he was framed. Well, that's four fetched. Okay. I love Jimmy say anything bad about him. But they bit farfetched. Okay. So and did you both grow up singing church a lot too? I did a little bit. Yeah. And I did a lot. Did you sing a lot of church songs at home? Even though you're still a little singing church. Rob, you know, I'm trying to remember. I did a lot of sing with my family. And I went to a stop going to church, partly because we're living so far from anything. And and I didn't have transportation. My parents were churchgoers. But I think I stopped going to church around age thirteen and they were largely like Methodist churches with on interesting hymnal, sending they weren't like the the real cool music that Linda was probably. So Linda, I think your family help build the church that your family belonged to well. I did you know, it was it was a holy roller church. So it wasn't so popular in our little town of Faraday, you'd have like a thousand people attending the Baptist church might be five hundred the Methodist and two hundred Catholics and about fifty pentecostals. And that was your church, and that was our church. So what kind of music is on the church. Oh, it was great music and Robbie would have loved it. Get to church going to that one. It was just you know, it was wonderful music upbeat most of the time not all the time. But it was very emotional though. I mean, sometimes it was it was frightening and sad. But when I did those songs like I'll fly away and stuff like that. I it was absolutely wonderful. I'm wondering if your brother, and you I got your hands on piano in church because if you were living in a shack, I doubt there was a PR in the shack. Well, my mom and daddy found a way to get my brother, piano, when he was eight years old in the shack in I guess. Yeah. Into holes in it. A we were definitely in the shack with holes in it. Well, he they bought it from my aunt, my aunt Eva had a pianist. She bought for her daughter Norma, Jane enormou-, Jane, just wouldn't take the lessons in play the piano. So she says she just wanted to sell it. So she sold it to my mom, and daddy and daddy moved that piano downstairs by himself. No because they lived up over there. Cafe that they they had a cafe and they lived up over it. So it was upstairs. And Jerry told me said, I can't believe how daddy could move that Pia. No down those stairs. If it was an upright, piano. My brother still has it. Wow. So now that we've talked a little bit about your church backgrounds. Can I ask you to do a song that you also do on the new album wild wild wild? I'm going to ask you to sing your duet of on the Jericho road. And did you both know the song before you decided to do it together? Well, I was sitting at a Burger King and Trump's Norway. I got an Email from Robbie saying, well, we need to do some gospel, and I suggest. It'd Gerry Cole road. Didn't you did? Yeah. And you directed me to to Jerry's insane performance. Yeah. Unbelievable Pano solo. Immediately told you I'm not playing that Pano solo that I made you play the guitar solo guitar. Not really. We came up with. Travel. Carey. Jess brands. Jerry goro. On the Jericho road. There's room for just. No, more, no less. Jesus in you. Eight. Jesus is. Teas. Oh, thank you for that. I loved it. All. It was wonderful. And let me reintroduce you. My guests are Robbie folks songwriter singer guitarist, and Linda Gail Lewis is a pianist and singer and sometimes songwriter as well. And also the sister Jerry Lee Lewis, they have a new album of duets together called wild wild wild. And the song that they just perform for us on the Jericho road as one of the songs featured on that album. So we just heard you saying on the Jericho road, which is a very Christian song, and Linda, I think you're still in the church. Well, I'm not exactly in church. They won't have me. But I am a Christian. That's bigger still deeply a Christian. I haven't found one that would agree with everything. I do. But yes, I do go to church occasionally, but I don't like belong to a church, but but I'm very spiritual. And and I love the Lord and Robbie I remember from our last interview, you completely moved away from the church atheist, which I haven't really discussed with Linda until this moment. But. There. It is. Okay. Without Linda already knew that. He was I read it on one of those social media things. Your secret is long. I really do. I mean, they're great songs. I mean songs about belief. You know, that's what makes makes a love song. Great. Because you believe it when you sing and songs about transcendental belief to me or all the more powerful. Do you have any transcendental thing to believe in the heat death of the universe? But no, I don't really consider that a faith. I guess so so no, okay. Linda, wetted, your parents think being such church people when Jerry Lewis along with you, his younger sister started performing these like wild songs. Totally secular kind of blasphemous probably within your church. So how how did that go over in the family grad he was bringing in a lot of money and got the family out of poverty? So I'm sure they like that. But there was a lot that went along with that. Well, you know, my parents defended my brother always, and and they didn't necessarily agree with his theory, which is that he was doing the devil's music. They didn't really feel that like he did. And but the the people in the church more happy with us, a momma would still go, and she'd take me whether a lot of times, and people weren't all that nice to us in the church anymore. But but Jerry feels like, you know, he used to feel like that was the devil's music. I don't know if he feels that why so much now, I think he's mellowed on that. Did you ever feel like you were going to go to hell because of the music you were playing or the life? You're living. I never felt that way. Even when you're young and well when I was young I was scared to death of I mean of hell of. Yeah. Of hail. I mean, those preachers would preach. Those sermons would scare you to death. Sure. Going from that to. I mean, you're married at the age of fourteen you, I mean, you're drinking you're on the road with your brother. I mean that is not like what would be defined as the righteous life. If you want India, I was pretty crazy as again. In those early days of being wild as in wild wild wild album title back in the day. Did you worry about how did you worry about, you know, not being redeemed maybe a little bit? When I wasn't drinking wild Turkey. Think about it. But yes, I probably did worry about it. But I'm just always felt like that Jesus forgives us of our sand. Because that's what the Bible's is. And a lot of people miss that. They have all these ideas about what you can do. And you can't do tell us a little bit about what it was like to be performing with your brother when you were in your early teens. It was wonderful. It was absolutely great. I've wanted so much to go on the road with him. And of course, I was in school. But then I met this guy fell in love with him. And we got married, but it only lasted for I think a few months. It wasn't long at all. And I ended up with a divorce. And then I said, well, I can't really go back to school because I've just gone through this divorce. So how about may going on the road with you? And he took me on the road. So you're you meadows Presley, you, probably met all the rockabilly performers and a lot of other now famous performers too. It's been wonderful. I mean, Chuck Berry and Little Richard and fats. Domino was a lovely man. It was it was so great being around. All those guys. My guests are pianist and singer Linda Gail Lewis and songwriter singer and pianist Robbie folks their new album of duets is called wild wild wild. After a break. We'll talk more they'll sing more and more attracted Linda Gail Lewis and Jerry Lee Lewis reported nineteen sixty nine I'm Terry gross. This is fresh. And. All the world. Support for this podcast and the following message. 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And with me is Linda Gail Lewis along with Robbie folks who has a great songwriter singer and guitarist, and they have a new album of duets called wild wild wild rubber the the last time, we spoke, which was the first time, we spoke, we talked a lot about how you spent years in Nashville trying to write songs for other country performers who were likely to have like head because they were already well known very interested in that. I remember. Because I think, you know, like natural kind of became like ten panel Ian away where people were writing songs for other performers, and I think, you know, rock and roll stopped being that way and Nashville kind of picked it up. And I just think you're also just a terrific songwriter. Thank you. So we talked about how you stop doing that you writing songs for music publishing company and it stop doing that. Because the people who you were hoping would turn your songs into moneymakers where warrant buying. I mean, they weren't interested in doing the songs. Correct me if I'm wrong here. And so you started running yourself again. Yeah. I mean, I guess that's give me your version of what I just said. No, that's a that's a version of it. I think well, I was I was writing songs for myself and for songs that I kinda disliked, but as pitches to other people and some of the songs were kind of down the middle. Like, I start out writing them with REBA in mind or something like that. Like him and seeing them, but but not so many of them. But I think the trouble that I had had more to do with internal politics at the place. I was working for the guy to sign me left shortly after I got signed. And then I was represented by somebody that I didn't know and that I didn't like my music that much. So there was there was that going on? And I was at the time. I was looking for sort of any door into the business. I wasn't sure what it would be a writer or as a bluegrass flat picker, which I done right before that or as what? So I was trying this writing thing at the same time. There was a little label starting up in Chicago that was interested in just in in my records and putting out my records. And so I thought well one of these things might catch on like either somebody will cut one of my tunes. Stay here in Nashville doing this or or all end up, you know, in van riding around with people on a on this little punkish label and putting out my own records, and it ended up being being that. Writing van putting out your own room still in the van and still putting out my records. And I'm still on that label which is which is which is bloodshot. And I think I think I'm much happy. You know, sort of faded to be that in a way. Probably I think I always since I was a kid. I wanted idea putting out music records with your name on the cover and songs that you made up that was what all the guys that I admired like John Hartford, and the Beatles and Bob Dylan while a lot of them. Anyway, we're doing that. So that was sort of the grand template. I think and and it's just sort of the alternate vehicle for self expression. I think you know, you're right all the tunes you record the records. It's like a little it's a little DIY operation. I have it doesn't make me a lot of money. But it keeps me pretty keeps. Me really busy. I probably said this the last time we spoke with our country music singer. I'd wanna be singing your songs. We'll thank you. I can't picture you as a country. Three music singer. That's because it was so improbable, but I love country music. You know, it's probably hard to picture me as any kind of singer for good reason. But, but, but I I love country music at you know, it's not what I grew up with. But I've just come to love the emotional quality of it, and the songcraft I just find it very fulfilling to yes, I really love. I mean, there's so much of an I love this the the lyrical honesty. You know, we were introducing that adultery song. We were singing last night. And I said this is a country song about adultery just intending to be descriptive. But people laugh because I guess it's kind of funny, but other forms of music don't address these life fundamentals adult songs in some ways because they're about like, they're about drinking. They're about cheating. Marriages breaking up about sin there about sin. Yeah. And so it's they can be very emotionally deep. Yeah. Well, the other thing I was going to say like about the older country music and really the older not so much. The newer is the performance quality. You know, you can hear people in a room communicating with one another vocally and instrumentally and it's done quickly. You know, a song as an hour's worth of work and some of the best musicians in the world or are in the small room all listening to each other. And and and creating that that wonderful pulsating synergy together, can you play an example of the kind of song we're talking about in my opinion, the kind of we're talking about when you get to the bottom, which is a great song about love lost and drinking and jealousy. And all of that. Thank you want to say anything about writing. Like what the occasion was for writing it. Oh, it was. It was pretty banal. Terry was like, I think I was looking looking to fill out a record with a with a honky talk song, and it was a record with a bunch of depressing and. I don't know instead of the USA songs on it. I thought had just like a honky tonk like classic country sounding thing would be a nice counterbalanced. All this other stuff. Does one year free and single? We grow. Swayne with the stars. Wow. This drinking alone. Yes. Sure. They did up. Two. Dome reach for my and that's just the first verse of Linda's never heard this music before it's weird singing in front of her. Great. I left that. Let's do it tonight at the show. Okay. The I love I love that song that was Robbie folks playing on he wrote code when you get to the bottom. And with me is Robbie folks songwriter singer guitarist and also Linda Gail Lewis, who's a singer and pianist and they have an album of duets together called wild wild wild. We'll be right back and they'll play some more for us. This is fresh air support for this podcast and the following message. Come from season two of choice allergy and original podcast from Charles Schwab season, two of choice. Allergy is hosted by scientists Katie milkman, listen as she shares a real world stories of people facing monumental decisions with special guests ranging from sports heroes, two Nobel laureates choice. Allergy also provides tools and strategies for making better choices in life. 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But I was working on a cover album version of a Bob Dylan record called street legal that came out in nineteen seventy nine in the course of doing that. At I met these three soul singers in Chicago or church singers. They also sing with a variety of people like Michael McDonald, and the Franklin did sing with Franklin. But their names are Yvonne gage, faith Howard and Joan Cosso. And so I was doing some recording with them, and they were really just lifting me in a new realms inspiring me, and I just never pictured myself singing with great soul singers behind me. And I think that gave me a lot of lift to write songs in that new vein like like fool maker. And I mean besides that. I I always loved soul music who doesn't you know? It's great. So I think we need to hear fool maker. This is a song by Robbie folks that he's performing on the new album wild wild wild. Day. Strong. To shoot. No. Should have. Aclu? When you. Hearts part and he trusting. Good. Head. That's Robbi folks asong that is featured on the new album wild wild wild. It's a song he wrote and the album is an album of duets with Robbie and Linda Gail Lewis. Who is also a pianist and singer and the the younger sister of Jerry Lee Lewis in her piano, playing very much in that style. So among the kinds of songs you've written you've written a lot of drinking songs, and they're always very persuasive was drinking ever an issue for you still is. Drank a bit much last night. As a matter of fact, I wasn't planning to excited about coming down here. And I think I had one too many. I'm a moderately heavy drinker. You look very concerned, but I was trying to be late hearted about it. But I do drink. I do drink. And that's probably my only vice it seems to be something comes easy when people are on the road. Well, I do it at home too. So I don't know. Right. Okay. This is headed an suddenly dark direct. Yeah. I'm going to take a slightly darker, Linda, there's a period. I I know because you've written about it in in your autobiography from the nineties there's a period when you were doing drugs, your dictate to quail for a while you near you overdose for times nearly died at least one of those times. And then you through the Pels out the window and a masseuse and you've been sober since. Then. Yes, I have an an I don't know if that would've ever happened to me if I hadn't lost my mother, but you know, back in those days the doctor's never did site to us. Oh, here's a bottle of pills in these. And you might get addicted to them, you know, no one said that oh you were prescribed them grabbed. Oh, I never took any street drugs. Well, I didn't have to had plenty of doctors. But it it was about a year. I believe, but I I had a really close call because I reached the point where I just couldn't eat anything and I had to have a vis for weeks. I don't even know how many weeks went by. And then my doctor would come in and site. A may, you know, you're going to die? If you don't get hold of yourself and start eating, and, but then he found a good psychiatrist forming, a wonderful man, a wonderful Christian man who was a psychiatric he up to a he helped me so much. And so I spent about a year go into the psychiatrist and after about a year of that. I was okay. But it lasted all of it together lasted about two years. The dangerous thing was that it just took so long for me to be able to actually eat food. It was crazy. I guess I had some kinda like mental breakdown. Then I just couldn't eat and. You know, if you ever do that if you ever have nearly starved to death like that, then you have an eating problem for the rest of your life. Usually because you're always worried about whether or not you're gonna have anything to eat don't, I don't know why that is. But I've read about it that it's quite common, and it certainly has affected me. I I can't be anywhere without having some kind of food with me just in make sure I have something. Linda, I'm going to ask you to do a song that you wrote. And and this too is. It's sad song. It is. I was impressed when I wrote it. Yeah. It's hard. It's heartbreak highway, and you were telling me before we actually started recording that you write songs when you're sad when you're depressed. Well, most of them because I mean, I have to feel at that moment. What I'm writing in? It just comes to me this comes into my head. And then I got with the piano, and I hear the melody, and I have the lyrics, and and that's the song. So how did this come you? What was going on in your life, well friend, a man of was she was my best friend at one time she had passed away and she actually had married. My ex husband actually, she took him away from me when I was on the road with Jerry Lewis in fats domino. And when I came home, I didn't have a husband, but I still loved her because she was my friend. When she passed away. I just felt relief depressed I felt depressed because she was gone and felt bad for him that he had lost his wife, and I was sitting in the car and my husband went in an insurance office, and he stayed in there forever as he does. And I just wrote the song can acapella for us. Okay. As I watch the sun said the teas big into role. Doc. So. From memphis. Down the road and heart break. Lose control Thank you. It's a really good song. How often do you write songs? Oh seldom ever. I mean. I wrote dark and lonely road about seven years seven eight years ago, I was on tour in the UK, and oh it was so depressing. This long drive, and I started thinking about things, you know. And I wrote this song called is dark and lonely road. And I'm proud of that one. And I'm proud of heartbreak highway, and then I've written some other songs that are just kind of. Okay. Although I do really like pretty little pictures because Robbie sang it with my. And it's a cute little song about, you know, losing someone. But then you have the the memories of them pretty little pictures in your mind. How long because I remember you came in with a song written in longhand. And and she's got this great cursive writing she won penmanship in the third grade to New Orleans is Representative of our town. So it's beautiful looping writing. And it was on best western stationary and nothing crossed out. If I remember, and I got the impression that you had written at the night before. That's right. Annie helped me we wrote it together she was kind of a little bit down to because her grandmother had passed away. And we and I was saying to her, but you have all these wonderful memories. These pretty little pictures that you can always think about that. And that's how it happened. So whose any any is my daughter Anne, Marie Louis. How many children do you have I have four altogether and actually still have two that are speaking to me. If you have enough always have. Any speaks enough for for. Yes, we're very close. We maybe this is the wrong place to bring it up. But you've been married like eight times nine times, I have and but I I had two children with sisal Harrelson. Are. He was our family friend, and my brother's friend from the age of twelve years old. And so we had two children. And then I married Brent the one that my friend took away from me, and we had two children and Oliver, and they're still basically almost still at home. I mean, anti is married, but she lives fifteen minutes away, and my son's home a lot because we just love to be together. My guests are pianist and singer Linda Gail Lewis and songwriter singer and guitarist Robbie folks their new album of duets is called wild wild wild. This is fresh air. This message comes from NPR sponsor Capital One with the new Capital One saver card. You can earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment. That means four percent. 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I was saying earlier of dancing with an excellent partner. And it's like the pleasure of falling down. I soft bed. You know? And when you sing with a great partner la- guy gets do with Linda it really is almost like falling into a bed, and it's thoughtlessness and comfort and the good feeling. And I wish I could be more scientific about it. It's it's a good feeling joy harmonizing. Of course, I did with my brother and with my sister, Frankie, Jane, and then now my son and my daughter sing with me. And that's a lot of fun when we do that. That's great woman. Plus man is an especially potent thing, though, at least in country music. Don't you think? Oh, yes. Of course. And the thing that mostly that I would do with my kids would be like gospel or folk music or something, but yeah, the country songs with a man in a woman singing duet. I think it's really great. And it hasn't been done so much lately has it. I mean, I haven't heard a lot of really great country do at since the seventies. I haven't been paying attention since tonight twain and Billy current into their duets going on these last twenty years, but I'm sure that's still exists. It's so great probably don't listen to the Larry's. Just remember, you know, George and Tammy and those vets so I I have chosen all the songs that I've asked you to do would you like to choose a song to play for us to end. Let's see we do. Little bit of I just lived country song. How about that? I love this song so much just about my favorite song on the album. It sounds like it's biographical. But it's not right. I I was working on a musical. And it was a country music musical and and the play didn't end up going forward. So I was left over with these sort of classic country sounding songs that I'd written for it which were easily taken from the context of that show. And so in the play the daughter of an old classic country singer sings one of her dad's songs, he's dead, but he was sort of maybe a contemporary of are just past the Hank Williams, era and. And it's from the point of view of somebody that used to be a hitmaker in in country music, and now the hits stopped coming, and they're still out in the roads, doing smaller and smaller gigs, and so this semi joke that I make when I'm playing it live with Linda is that. It's my story of it with without the hits. We all can feel a little bit of this music business in singers songwriters can feel this players. My first single hit the big time. For a while there. I was hot. I can't recall the early nine. These last ten. Era mornings. What? Sure. With fee. Whiskey river. This way. Wage. Me. Com. Never. It's. Thank you both so much and now as lyndale Lewis and Robbie folks playing in our studio that's awesome on their new album of duets wild wild wild. It has been so great to have you here. Thank you for being so generous playing your music for us. I really loved hearing. Thank you so much. I heard that. Great pleasure. Robbie folks and Linda Gail Lewis recorded in our studio in September. Their new album is called wild wild wild tomorrow on fresh air will feature our interview with jazz singer Cecile mclorin salvant who won best vocalist in the NPR music jazz critics poll in twenty thirteen twenty fifteen and twenty seventeen and jazz critic, Kevin Whitehead we'll review her new album called the window will close with a track from it moon. Lou. Head. Was step. Is on. Only one. Head of your. From your sweet. Muscial? That it's. It's. Only one. I try to. Fresh Air's executive producer is getting our interviews and reviews produced an edited by EMI salad Phyllis Meyer. Sam brigger Lauren crendall, Heidi soman, moves eighty thea Challenor and Steph Kelly Roberta shorrock directed today show. I'm Terry gross.