Tuesday, August 20th, 2019

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On five years after eric garner's death police officer who placed him in a chokehold has been fired. Garner's family wants more. Yes he's fired. The fight is not over. We will continue to fight but if daniel leo sues the n._y._p._d. Could he get his job back with no king david greene this up i from n._p._r. News we've seen the fight for democracy in hong kong play on the city's streets now the world's biggest social media companies say it's also unfolding online. They describe a state back to chinese misinformation campaign. What message is beijing sending and we have new data on gun control regardless of their politics regardless whether they own a gun or not. We've found that the majority of americans want red flag laws. What would those laws mean for. Gun owners stick with us. We've got the news. You need to start your day. Uh in new york the n._y._p._d. Has fired daniel pantaleo. The police officer who put eric garner in a toe cold that led to his death yeah police commissioner james o'neill announced this decision yesterday saying that he feels for both the garner family and for pantaleo mammoth family family lost his life that is an irreversible tragedy and our hardworking police officer with the family man who took this job to do good to make a difference in hump humidity has now lost chosen career and that is different kind of tragedy but the story apparently does not end here their reports now that officer pantaleo plans to take action to try and get his job back cindy rodriguez with n._p._r. Member station w._n._y._c. in new york has been following this story. She's joining us now on skype morning cindy good morning noel so police commissioner james o'neill said it was his decision to fire officer pantaleo as we heard in that tape he suggested it was is a difficult decision. He didn't take it lightly. What did he say were. The reasons noel commissioner. Neil was emotional yesterday. At a press s. conference <hes> he said that mr garner was noncompliant argumentative and he noted that the patrol guide allows officers to use reasonable force when it's necessary to take someone into <unk> into custody but he said what the patrol doesn't allow for is for an officer to use use a chokehold and he went through what happened that day in staten island and said that officer pantaleo was doing the right thing until this this confrontation escalated any put his arm around mr garner's neck and at a certain point he had a chance to readjust and let go but then he didn't do that. One of the really notable things in this case is that neither state nor federal charges were ever filed against officer pantaleo. Does this sopa the door to that again or is or is the legal case over. No i think most people believe that the legal cases over a staten island grand jury declined aligned to bring charges or to indict officer pantaleo and the department of justice said they couldn't prove intent and they also passed on on bringing criminal charges and there's a statute of limitations at the federal level in that has run out already in the meantime eric. Garner's family has been tireless in pushing for accountability of some sort. What did they say yesterday. After officer pencil was fired yes. They've been very frustrated by this process. You know it's taken five years to get to to this point. Mr garner's daughter emerald snipes garner yesterday actually thanked the police commissioner for making this decision but she also said this criminal nail while we appreciate you making your decision we are definitely still calling for the aragon law which will ban the coal which will ban and officers being protected by a shield and not held accountable for their actions. I regard it was killed five years ago. It took like five years for the officer to be fired. I don't want another aragona alright so that's the family's taken a cindy. I know you've reported that pantaleo plans on suing the n._y._p._d. To try and get his job back. What do we know about that lawsuit. Yes that's right so he is planning to sue the the union is standing behind him. They say that this decision was purely political. They have sent out a memo to their members saying to do everything strictly by the the book so as not to jeopardize their careers or their personal safety cindy. Rodriguez is a reporter with n._p._r. Member station w._n._y._c. cindy. Thanks so much. Thank you noel r._e._i. China is using u._s. Social media platforms to spread disinformation about about pro democracy protests in hong kong. That's right. This is according to both twitter and facebook. The social media companies have confirmed the collectively. They've now taken down. Almost a thousand accounts. They say were backed by chinese state actors to spread false information. N._p._r.'s beijing correspondent. Emily fang is on the line hi emily emily hi good morning so tell us about these accounts. What were they saying. How many were there how how widespread was again. It was just under one thousand and what happened was twitter found out that it's platform was being used by chinese government linked accounts and took <hes> more than nine hundred down put her then went to facebook book and said the same thing is happening on your platform facebook. Now says took down seven pages five accounts and three groups and it's important to note that both both platforms or are already under scrutiny in the u._s. For spreading russian disinformation during the two thousand sixteen presidential elections this time when confronted they preemptively shut deadly some of the misinformation action <hes> interesting that twitter tipped off facebook. Let me ask you these chinese state-backed accounts. What would they posting exactly. They're posting entirely pro-beijing views on the protests. Things like comparing the protesters to islamic state fighters images ages that show the protesters allegedly attacking hong kong police officers and harassing travelers at the airport when protests shutdown the hong kong airport even false information about protesters being paid off by american agents and all of this stuff is already extremely common in china but china now wants this to be the global global narrative and twitter as part of its disclosures when it took down these accounts released <hes> information about what these accounts were posting the data shows is that the content was published in at least ten languages including spanish and english and some of the suspended accounts were really new but some of them had been registered and in two thousand and seven and eight so they've been around for more than a decade and some of them had <hes> tens of thousands of followers including one called liberty lion news news which self-described itself as a pro-trump conservative news outlet. Here's a really slick english language video that's made by china's state broadcaster and that still being widely shared by twitter accounts that are attempting to garner sympathy for hong kong's police force we will allow a certain amount of damage we would allow certain amount of disruption to major roads before we deployed and that is an incredible edible tolerance for international city police force okay so i guess if they're posting in all of those languages the idea is we want this message to get out beyond just china and hong kong. We want to be able to control what the rest of the world thinks about these protests. Why why is china doing this. You got it exactly right. They've invested a huge amount of effort to manage perceptions within china not just on the hong kong protests but historically over any kind of politically sensitive event but as china becomes more and more of a global power. It's realized it needs to manage what people outside of china also think about its policies and actions and and over the last decade we've seen trying to globalize a lot of the traditional propaganda channels. It's maintains with things like it's television station. It's media outlets <hes> <hes> but the internet has now given them this incredibly powerful tool to amplify efforts and we've seen them getting more sophisticated like creating these twitter and facebook accounts that that mix what looked like organic content with state propaganda. I was reading earlier today that chinese state media of course still have accounts on twitter with a huge following and of course they have spin on what's happening in hong kong so <hes> so this. This doesn't really end there. Does it nope that narrative will continue going on within china and peers. Emily chang in beijing aging emily. Thanks so much. Thank you all right. There are few issues in this country more divisive than gun control yeah yeah but we do have data for you this morning. That suggests there is strong support across the country for so-called red flag laws the discussion around this issue of course was heightened after the two recent mass shootings el paso and in dayton now red flag laws allow family members or law enforcement to try and get guns out of the hands of people. They believed to be in crisis. The numbers this morning come from a survey from the american public media research lab and lee patterson from the guns in america. Reporting project has been tracking tracking this data. She's based at member station k. u._n._c. in northern colorado haley good morning. So what does this new survey. What are these new numbers. Tell us about support for red red flag loss yes so before i just give you a bunch of numbers. This survey basically says that there's a lot of support for these red flag laws also called extremist dreamers protection order laws so seventy seven percent of americans support family initiated extreme risk orders seventy percent support these orders when they're initiated by law enforcement <hes> polling shows the support is strong among democrats republicans independents though highest among democrats and it's also fairly high among gun owners owners to sixty seven percents court orders initiated by family sixty percent support them when they're initiated by police now the other thing that's important to know is is that although we're talking about this survey now in the aftermath of a couple of mass shootings was actually conducted in july before those events even before el paso before dayton intrigues lee anything related to gun control is generally very controversial. Do you have a sense of why red flag laws or something that so many people seem to agree on. I talked with a couple of experts about that. One of them is cassandra cra fosse. She's the deputy director of the johns hopkins center for gun policy and research research and she pointed to this temporary component of these laws meaning that once the temporary order expires them the subject. That's the person who has guns has been taken away is then able to ask the judge to return his or her weapons. It's not focused on all gun owners. It's focused on gun owners. Who are exhibiting exhibiting risky behaviors that i think we can reasonably agree someone who's posting online about committing mass shooting or someone who's sharing with a family member or a friend that they're thinking about harming themselves not someone that we would want to separate from firearm. I also talked with amy swear at the conservative leaning heritage foundation she talks about extreme risk orders as a kind of intermediate measure that can provide a way to intervene before someone has committed a crime or before afford they've gotten on the radar of mental healthcare professionals but who are maybe already starting to show signs of dangerousness as she put it making threats for example so for the minority of people who oppose red flag laws when they're asked why. What did they say well. Roughly one in seven respondents strongly strongly opposed these laws according to the survey those opposition numbers are higher among gun owners people living in southern and western states reported the highest levels of opposition opposition as for why some people believe these laws violate the second amendment because after all day limit access to guns others have concerns about due process us and here in colorado. There's actually a whole movement of sheriffs who say we're not going to enforce the colorado log. Once it takes effect because the issues i've just outlined and also because law autism mental healthcare component okay so it doesn't necessarily end with a law reportedly patterson of the guns in america project. Thanks for being with us. You're welcome and that's a first for tuesday august twentieth. I'm noel king and i'm david greene. We hope you start your day back with us here tomorrow. You can subscribe to us wherever you're listening to your podcasts and if you've got a few minutes we'd love it if you would rate us and review us on apple podcasts appreciate you waking up with n._p._r. And you should know that your n._p._r. Station makes up. I possible every morning you can support them and support us at donate that n._p._r. Dot o._r._g. Slash up. I <music>. We're is toronto. Brown still remembers what his teacher said years ago on his first day at a new school. 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