Ellie Harrison Finding Opportunities
Welcome to the roots of leadership with anthony grupo. This is anthony grupo and welcome to today's episode of the roots of leadership. I'm here today with l. e. harrison. Who's a leader marsh ellie. Welcome to the show. Thank you so much having me. Answ net pleasure to be here. Thank you for for coming on. You know when. I i had the opportunity to listen to elliott some of our thought leader leadership. I was really taken at. This could be an episode that you the listeners will really enjoy. we're certainly gonna talk about leadership and clearly at its roots but this will impact a lot of young leaders but i think leaders that are still young at heart and our work in progress and are working to improve so regardless your position in life and business. I think you're gonna enjoy would has to say ellie so let's talk about leadership when when you first started to think about leadership in your role as leader what what changed in your thinking about leadership from when you started your career to where you are now. I'm i guess. When i started my career is a graduate i was. This is my first job. This is my first experience in a freshman industry and i was really fascinated to see how leadership what comes up china's Let into the business and develop my career. And then i quit. He realized that. I like being on the front for. I like having the ideas. I like trying to guide people through things so it became quite quickly apparent that i wanted to lead on my one eight to kind of get involved in events beyond the day to day job know be walk. Hang with whether it be walking kind of the bigger picture of a business and why could come. I when i meet leaders like yourself and they talk about leadership when they starting a career but but one in your life did you realize it. When when did you. I know that you had leadership ability in that you could take your ideas and people would would rally to you. I guess. I grew up with three younger brothers Very close in age and as the agenda once they always tried to have the monopoly. They wanted to win the bottles. They want us to watch. The football like everything was very male oriented in household And i read. Is that you know. I really needed to step up. I needed to walk out to persuade. People might negotiation skills needed to be on point Say yeah i think it was my brothers that drive drive me to become a leader. They'd probably salmon knock but you know it's it's interesting isn't it. How a lot of times. The the skills we take to the boardroom really started in the living room. And you know it's almost like a lot of your skills get honed. it's it's It's interesting too. Because i i like to ask that question from leaders like yourself because i think sometimes we start our discussion more to the middle and the end right where we are now but it's a lot of the listeners that are are here today on the episode with you and i they they have those thoughts because there are in various stages and an now we special things impact is at life at home. So let's talk about a lot of energy and your pursued a around the young professionals marsh and some of the work that you're doing. What was the genesis of ellie. Why why did you become an advocate of it and and really driven by. So i came from chelsea originally and when the integration happens a marsh colleague ashley said to me marsh is a village of opportunity and i thought that was really really interesting way of putting it. Unity said the mc group. There is so much out there and s so much to find. They were so excited that we are becoming a positive it and coming from jail t. I realized that it was a very different structure and i needed to find a way around this minute. Detail coming into a huge organization had so many pots. And when you come in no one gives you a mom. No one says this is how it's gonna work this. Is you find these things. Thought that was cr. Jeeves and i think these resource crew just just for the groups. Because i'm not sure what they would know with. Crt is just too close. Sorry say colleague results grapes that we have within the business and to me. That's the closest you will get to a map around the organization is that secrete meeting with a specific puffiness. And hopefully that a group could help to navigate ye to the parts of the business that you want to interact with a want to see so i immediately latched onto becoming a part of the young professionals organization because i felt that that was my best way to get exposure to other parts of the business. Meet people that. I'm not walking with day to day as a natural introduction to the wider degree So guess for me positi. That was the genesis was coming into such a huge company and having all my support. Great this there and says now we're going to look at this specific you know whether it be a specialty division. Explain hot division works or we look at the different operations or we setup mentoring embodying and you get introduced to people that you wouldn't come across in your day job i think that's probably it'll sauces. Yeah let's let's go to place that a lot of listeners will will ask me about. Is there in large organizations. Many are in large global organizations. Like like we are the also can have the same problem in in a small organization. Because it doesn't it can impact everyone where you come into an organization. You're in your role and people ask. Well how i. How will i become visible. How how will i navigate how i build a career because as you said there's not a map of course we go through orientation of different levels but in the end we start our job and start working. What advice do you have to the listeners. Of when you start a job and you see or change. What are some of the key components you think about or do that helps you become acclimated because it takes energy. Doesn't it to to try new things. Yeah daphne and i think the main thing for me is with anything in life you get out of it as much as e poten- and you shouldn't expect things to come to you. You need to put yourself out there and find them So you know when you move into a new company go out try meet people you know easy to the people thou humanitas lots of questions an always ask what more there is. What is out there because it does that old saying you don't ask you don't gap and if you don't ask what is out that you'll never going to know so i think having not current tippety of going out that asking the questions meeting the people putting into it a hundred ten percent as much as you can. That means you'll get out as much as there is available so i think that's probably the main ethos that i try to use. And do you think that when you do that just to recap couple things. You said be proactive. Ask questions apply your potential to to new ideas new venues. When when you do that a lot of times you can find out that. It's not what you thought it is once you get started. What do you do when you're surprised as leader and you try new things. I think that's normally a good thing as exciting when you start something and you think you can see the path and it takes another direction because actually it. He could predict how something was going to go. And it doesn't show you something new will surprise you. You'll probably not learning anything from it. You're just going down a practice route that you already understand and you can anticipate and you'll within your comfort zone when you're doing things like that so when you go into something that you have one intention for and it takes you down another path that's when you on the most naci you can find the most opportunities there's really well said and i just to you say that it it's so true and you don't think of it until i heard you say that surprises really are the genesis of excitement and business and in life right if we complacency and comfort you said comes from doing the same thing over and over again. There's there's a lot to that when you think about this to think about young professionals and we have a lot of of what i would call developmental leaders and or young leaders and just leaders of all ages who are doing exactly what you said. They're trying something new every day. They're constant work in progress. What are some of the key issues. That impact young leaders. What what is it that you think about concerned about value. Because you're you're you're the future of of the organizations that we all work in but also a lot of our infrastructure and society. What's on your mind halle. I mean at the moment. I would say the on is what the future of the workplace is gonna let like. I think that's a huge amount of uncertainty surrounding people's careers an especially as a young person. When you will new an industry and hosni from my experience. I've been working insurance to three as and i've just started to feel like i found my feet. I understand how things work. I know how to get the best things. I kind of know how to work the job. So that i can get the outcome that i would like whereas suddenly now that whole has completely changed as a consequence of coronavirus and lockdown and uncertainty county scary. Not knowing what the office is going on at like the idea coming in and being handed a bag with mosques and even not going back to my desk. I've only sausage one desk in the office. My love dot dusk night off my surroundings and it's going to be strange to common agreed to a different role. I'm so i think that's probably right now. The biggest challenge I think the other challenge that young people have more generally is not not putting their hands up enough. I think people can be a little bit too prudence and would only say yesterday something when they feel that they will do a good job and it will reflect what on that and you say yes for joe because he fell. You can succeed in at and you're ready to do it. I think young people don't take opportunities enough when they don't feel when he fell seventy percent ready to be doing it because we can be quite scared of fading and things. And i didn't think failure is always a bad thing because again it's like when you saw some one off to do something and it takes you to another genus dots. Plenty learn the most when you fail when things go wrong. That is why you take key outings and you can build on that. Anita congrats on nine times out of ten is a solution stop failure. But it's having having the courage to go into something knowing that you might fail is something. I didn't think young people do enough. Yeah you know. Let's try to try to put. There's so much into that. What you just said. It's what you just talked about is really five pillars. That's key to to leadership but also just Being happy and accomplished and successful because success isn't defined by material achievement. It is defined by what you said is sometimes it's just the the uncertainty that we face now and what you said about. Don't be too prudent because it is sometimes our greatest comes when we take. We take risks on ourselves before we ever took risk on what we were going to do. And when we take risks on ourselves we we find out that what we were afraid of. Never cry never occurred and when the the challenges of will use the word failure or setbacks or development you. Do you find that you'd really do have the skills to handle it or people to help you went when we talk about new uncertain world and when you said about you know you love your desk and and and you love your surroundings. I think we're gonna find out in a lot of entrepreneurs that mindset that that we possess is that it doesn't wherever were standing were producing we were never defined by our geography and hence why you can try all kinds of things you can change countries you can do all types of environments when when young leaders and i and i wanna stay with young leader thing part for a moment what what. Advice elliott and guidance. Steve give them about how to be less fearless and not be afraid of taking the risk. I think the advice would be. Don't don't be afraid of fading or failing isn't always a bad thing. If he can take something positive from it so i think you take the opportunity. Try new things knowing that the mortgage try the more likely you are to slip up at some point. No everything is going to be right because everyone isn't good at everything. that's not. How the wild blogs everyone has. But it's only when you try loads of different things that you realize by your true strengths. Lie and order to do that. You're going to try. Something really bothered it a not. So i think diane have a fair of that moment that you realize i k dot may take a moment as a good thing. Learn positives from it and use that to help you on your policy to find your strengths. I think the wiser you become and the more that you're in this this game we'll call it of life. You find out that as you work to help others versus just yourself you become more fearless because you realize that there's a lot riding on it and people rally to you. They the environment where everyone is so focused on themselves creates a cutthroat environment of everybody trying to just achieve at the risk of others failing but when you seek to serve then everyone's united and all all boats rise it's it it should not have taken me as long as it did the figure it out. I wish i figured it out when i was younger. But i hope that people listening today To you and i think about that. I'm here today on a rich of leadership with e. harrison business leader marsh but also leader. Who takes on challenge tries. New things helps helps others around her elliott. Let's go back for a second because when you said you try new things. I bet. that's not a new thing for you is it. I would imagine that you were always after trying new things. Am i right on that one. I've always been pretty adventurous. Yeah you know what Has been a time when you you tried something and you thought. Oh this was a mistake like oh no this was i maybe should have gone. This far said a time that springs to mind. Yes daphne i. During my time at university. I was at the university of russell and i went on a year abroad. And in the first half of the i went and lived in santiago and shitty. And i've never been south america and i hopped on a plane age twenty. My and i had a friend that university. Who said i'm gonna sorta house fi. I'm gonna find a room and all and you can just drive pre. It'll be great and that's just say that his view of what is livable housing conditions for my fear. A slightly different. I arrived in this country. And i knew no one had two suitcases and i walked into this house and iowa and i cannot live here but i have nowhere to go. I had one ton to you. I just i had this moment of. Oh my goodness do i. That's real that's a real one. Yeah it was scary. And actually i got in touch with a friend in london. They knew someone out that and it was resolved within twenty four hours. I was out the door. I didn't spend a nice house. I found a love deface. It and i had a wonderful time and i loved it but while i stepped off that plane and arrived and thought oh my goodness this could be the next eight months of my life. It was scary. Which what you defined is at such a core isn't it. Is that that moment of of when fear creates paralysis and it's almost a year almost frozen in time at that that situation and it takes it takes that leadership skill or that belief in oneself to move forward as you did as many many could would not have. It may have really. It could have been such a bad experience to happen that they never took risk again. And i think that's where i'd like go for a moment now. Is that when we do really take. Take it hard right. We we do have a setback is the mindset that it takes skill to bring ourselves back out of it when when you start off on on an adventure of of leadership or are taking challenge and you and your career In the early stage of career have already amassed achievement. That some never happened in their career. Do you already set your mind that it doesn't go right. How you prepare. And you're okay with and you go on to in my mind every possible outcome. But i am balkan something new and not all of these outcomes positive saturday i think the best thing about taking risk in a business suit to take a step back the scariest thing about taking the risk in south america was that i was on my own whereas to take risk in business. You'll part of a team and you've got people around you and you've got that support structure and often especially as young passan as often someone you can tonto. Who's taken the same rest before all has the experience a has more of non tucson of what you're about to do so having those people around g to rely on makes risk-taking work a lot less daunting because the scariest thing about fadia also enduring role is not having someone to to you not having support network and i think that's another key thing that we try and do with the young professionals. Kodak resolves creative is where all just that some wants to send us an email and say this. We're an air with with that in a natch just chop about things. So when you're taking those risks and business having not support structure around you makes it a much nicer experience. Yes so true. And so many things isn't it because it doesn't matter what stage we are in our careers as you said have have some have an ear somewhere that Because we all we all needed you know ellie just to recap a couple of things because i want to try to frame this because you've talked about so many good good points on his. Podcast be proactive. Ask questions know that surprises are sometimes at the root of excitement that sometimes the way to minimize failure is is to plan mentally for what could happen and prepare for it that whether it's the future workplace just the uncertainty that comes before us is sometimes the best thing is start off by not being prudent. Ed i love that. One elliott might have to make sure. I do that myself. I'm here in the studio today. With with ellie harrison a business leader marsh and a leader across all platforms at she attempts elliott. I i want to go to play. Said i'm so unsure of myself. I i struggle with this one and it's top of mind in many regards as we come out of. Is we try to build a new ecosystem of where we work. What do you think about. And what do you say to some of the an even know what what label to use. I'll use traditional leaders but that doesn't even really fit. I'll say to the people that are so longing to go back. What to what. They knew they may fail to forget the lessons. We just learned of allowing people to to work flexibly and work from anywhere and and give more balanced the life by by working that way. What do we say to those leaders that that are set in their ways and they want to go back to work the way they used to and they're putting micro-management pressure on others to just go back into the office from nine to five. What would you say to those individuals. I would say falsely embrace change. I think as humans we naturally get stuck in routine. I think routine is very unhealthy. Sometimes sire embrace the change is an opportunity pacino to bring in more of what works while as out the things that don't lock you know. This is the first time in all living working experience. I would say that. We have a global uproar an opportunity to change things that have become ingrained. I didn't think that's gonna be such a thing as ingrained and business anymore as we lost our group so i think take that change and use it. Yeah us the opportunity that it is an haunts and increase the things that what while gavitt the things you date night and archie ton business into the vision that you have well said thank you ellie. It has been a real this podcast where i could talk with you all afternoon. Ed it's It's really really i. I learned a great deal listening to you. And i hope to listen to it as well. I'm sure they did. Ellie thank you for being on the show today. Frankie sandwich the hollyman time. This is anthony grupo. And today i was with ellie harrison a leader and the organization but a leader in everything she tries to as everyone thinks about this. Just know that you have the ability to turn your passion into your potential increase your performances. We believe in you have a great day.