The Long Haul of Fame
Hey listeners Paul here packing up to take a load of food down to Florida. I just want to offer personal content warning for this one you know the world we as truckers is not always G. rated and frankly the way we talk about that world among ourselves can get pretty course. We do our best here at over the road to present these stories in an unvarnished manner while still being sensitive to both our listeners and the people were talking about to be truthful though. That hasn't always been easy. There have been some pretty tough calls along the way especially in this episode. We'll be hearing accounts of drug use homelessness and sex work just know we thought a lot about it and feel like there's meaning and merit every story you're about to hear. Here's the episode. When we were mapping out this podcast. Somehow this idea came up. Just who are your personal heroes and who are people that just mean a lot to you and somebody at that Radio. Topi headquarters said you know. We just need to make an episode about these people. That's why we came up with this title So ball I have a question. Yeah go ahead Tom. Are we really going to do the titled Trucking magazine Pun thing with the the Word Hall for this well. Here's the thing time that we're broadcasting this to the outside world and you're an editor for a trucking magazine so it might be tired and moth eaten to you but to our radio TOPI listeners. It could be fresh and new Lacy can can you announce the title? Because I don't completely remember sure well hit the music. We're about to enter the world of long haul polls long hall of fame these people. They're not owners of truckstop. Sure not like leaders of movements. These are people that I I met by chance out on the road. It was like Halloween down there. I didn't dream. It was a god given planning and I had like this one rule. If you're going to be like my trucking friend they have to be highly entertaining. Paint on when the going get trucking. I'm a nurse stories after stories back in the day all five of these people are great entertainers in their own special way. No no no. You don't throw cheese away. Wait a minute I am an old. She's like a trucking legend. You know baby can. I use your radio and entertainment from PR? Xs Radio A- and overdrive magazine. This is long haul. Paul's hall of fame on over. The road was low. Too Strong on the over. The road was that just a little too strong. Okay okay okay. If you like over the road give sound opinions. Try Each Week. Noted music critics. Jim De regattas and Greg Kat Review New Releases. Discuss Classic albums in conduct exclusive interviews with artists across musical genres sound. Opinions is a space for music. Lovers fans critics alike to share in the conversation sound opinions. Listen critically download sound opinions. Wherever you get your podcasts. Should we get into the episode? Absolutely okay so the first hero and mentor? Infringe I della Murray Hanson. Ooh My name is Idel Maria Hanson. And I'm sixty nine years old. What was that other thing? Oh wait a minute fifty. Two years. I've been driving fifty two years. Can't you tail my memories gone? She's an interesting interesting lady. I get up in the morning and again that see. I'd give that little legal and I'm ready for my day. Is the at ass trucker chick She she hauls money for a living and she wears gun. Always empowering who in the hell gives a sixty four year old woman a gun that never shot a gun before in her life You know are you nuts or something you know and and and I I just make it a habit when they when they asked me what. Y'All I just I just tell them you know better than ask that and you need to step away from the truth. Can you give me your step away from the truck thing? You need to step away from the truck fair God right now ask me again what do you need? You don't need to ask me that question sir. You're going to need to step away from the truck what's going on here is none of your business. You need to move on and you need to move on now so just imagine that sixty four years old. I think I'll just start hoeing money and carrying a gun around the ever if I if I if I were a gun. I I'm afraid I like stand in front of the Mirror. And the flying J and say fleas free. Do you ever do that. Never liked parliament. We do have to do that. Stop Halt Security Officer okay. There is a little power in there. You know there's people that start hanging up sixty four but she. She's just like she loves to truck. There isn't anything else. There just isn't anything I couldn't have been anything else but a on ever want to quit driving I really don't. She grew up in a middle-class business family in but she she had this thing in her from the very beginning. My I had a pedal-car mom never let me have a bicycle but I had a little boo. I was a spade demon everywhere. Just love I loved it and my dad said she's going to be a drive. Dad Wasn't real keen on it. He thought I should be a bookkeeper mother. Should I wanted to send me to school in Ohio for music and I wanted to drive in for a long time. Dead didn't talk to me. He walked crush street. Wouldn't have anything to do with me. Then he became proud of me at small out. There you see that she owns that trump. She runs a business. And we've been a family. We were always a family owning our own businesses so Having him be proud of me with something shoes by yourself. Most of the time I'll work locally ships rock and then she got married with Russell. She was hauling with her husband. Right yes they were they were in separate trucks but they were always on the same gig but then her husband gets injured and she has to go out over the road. What was I going to do? I had a truck payment. I had house payments to kids. Was I gonNa go home and cry? It was time to go to work. That's when we really see like the the feistiness of her personality come through on these stories. Bj McAdams poll flatbed form. While I was being pushed around was being taken. So you know when she first started out I think is an owner operator. She she had this boss. That must have been the seventies or eighties when when were like wearing their shirts open to like. The fourth button always walked around with his shirt. Unbuttoned like a like a manly man with the hairy chest and everything and Real Manley and he had a habit of always something being wrong with your check. You always short now. I remember thinking to myself. This ain't happening. This just ain't happening and I don't remember where I got the little heat gun to take the signs off the truck you know. She had those Stickers that she'd taken off the truck which are you know highly adhesive. They're you know they're made to withstand wind rain snow and heated him up in pulled him off and I went in there and cook them signs and of course now. You know they're sticky. I wanted them all up and I walked in and he says you're not going to quit and I said Oh yes I am and I stuck them right to his hairy chest. Well she she really sounds like a legend. She is she. She's one of these few people who've actually had a truckstop named after her and the Idell Hanson North Little Rock Petro and todd. Can you remember the exact distinction? It's called this the Ta Petro Citizen Driver Award and they've been doing for several years now can you? Can you tell me the whole house? That whole thing worked out where truckstop got named after you. How does that work? I don't know how to Hell Up. I think the nominations from anybody in the trucking community. And it's always it's always a driver. She says I would like to nominate you for Ta Petro Citizen of the year. And I says you've got to be kidding me. Did you ask her what it feels like to pull into a truck stop? That has her name on it. Oh Yeah Yeah I did but now I got shot down. I got shot down on that Course my name's on the top of the fuel receipt and my pictures right there. You know so I go in. I was full. Michelle and I said the GAL getting national. You know who I am. Don't you you've got to be kidding? I couldn't believe I said that. And she says well no and she's looking right at the receipt and she's looking at my name and never the Twain shall meet and I was very polite. I says I thought to myself. I deserved that. Who the hell do you think you are? It taught me a lesson. I go in there if they if they hug my neck and say anything. That's great if they don't I'm not anybody special. I'm just the next truck driver in line. But you don't really. I think they need to make me parking spot a reserved parking spot with my name on this mine alone. Don't you and K Paul? Yeah tell me about shoestring. My Name's Ken Wall and I've been trucking for approximately thirty eight years now shoestring shoestring law. Is this guy such a storyteller? There was this old hotel across the street. Dare and that's where all the hookers and the cross dressers. It was all happening right there. Historians are silly evocative and I got this drink and what kind of drink it was. I was so Milena Trish in from running over the road but it had all of this was a great big ball had all shoestring to me like towers towers over my stories. I mean because he had to go out and live that to get that story. I figured it up. One time you had to average about seventy mile an hour to get there I mean just just. Judging from the stories he told in that interview did with him he strikes me as a guy who had a tendency to get himself into trouble. Oh Yeah Yeah. That's just a tip of the iceberg. I mean you know you don't get stories like that by being the pillar of the community. You know you get stories like that. And now he became the pillar of the community like He's a stellar standup. Salt of the Earth Guy. But I think there's this part of them that he he loves to tell stories about the wilder days because he's resurrecting these memories in these characters and he just he just gives it all to you he gives you the good the bad and the ugly one time I was in Columbia South Carolina. There's this one story in particular and and this is vintage sue string. He's laid over the weekend at this truckstop in South Carolina and things really do take a bizarre and ultimately disturbing turn. I back my large car in you know and the parking place to my left was easel. Bed buggers I got to talk into. We all pitched in on some booze and everything. The party got of control. Got Out of control. These were household movers and they started bringing the furniture out the drunker and higher. They got so I bring over bag a weed not though it down while I was her best friend. Then I get along chair. Offered the truck well setting over from me. Was the chicken hall that night. The barrels came out. Busted up pilots got too far gone and emo boys was hungry. They cut the seal on that wagon and got in there and they've is bringing out whole chickens and they just the night win on more furniture came off of that they bring out the couch. They had in tables and that next morning. When I woke up there was truck. Drivers stretch down on these couches and chairs and a far was smoldering and the party kind of died down year no but they were stuck there for the weekend and we all got together. We we refreshed. Got More Booze at forty seven thousand bounds of chickens. The man in these old boys they weren't afraid to go in there and get them and everybody started pitching in Boyle by Saturday night. It was really kick one of the bed. Buggers had a boom box and this guy came on the radio and he was hollering this. Somebody could help a young lady APP to get the floor. Well she came over to the Party. He brought it over there and she was just a young girl. She was something like eight months pregnant and she wanted to get back to Florida in order to have her child. Everybody's like yeah. Give me a dollar. You know but she needed some money and one of these guys came up with a great idea. He had a dry man. He opens up his trailer and he had empty truck. He said that boombox of prayer and put her on the back out on the radio in charge truck drivers five dollars to come back to see the pregnant girl dance because she had worked as a stripper at one time. And I'm thinking while just when you thank you seen it all in this poor young lady pregnant just wanting to get home now. You know sat in a way. It's sad it's funny but it's it's funny but it's sad here. She is up Bare Strip. Naked dancing on a tailgate of empty trailer to an old boom box. You-know-who a cassette tape in it. And Hey she had a handful of money and there was a greyhound bus station at that truck stop. She got her a ticket and got on there and often wonder about her wonder. Whatever happened to her that my goodness for the kid would be what thirty five years old or more by now and That's been years ago. This wouldn't go on today out there. My wonder any chance that person's out there. And here's this in those this story. Yeah wouldn't that be something as a result of this podcast lady gets a hold of US and says that wasn't me well? I'd love to talk to her. I love her All right so Paul. You interviewed Someone who's very important to you who is not attract driver but plays a pretty big role and a lot of truckers lives. Yeah that that's more Shia Campbell. Okay Well Marseilles. We are doing a podcast. And we decided to episode called long-haul Paul's Hall of fame and people who are heroes of mine and on our little old farmhouse. There's a picture of view that hangs on our wall off. Because you're the one who kinda feeling about what are you feeling teary eyed and emotions are running and its role in it's real. Let's talk about that. Let's talk about the real nece. Well I'm actually supposed to be interviewing hair pollen shine. Nobody in any big radio outlet ever reached out and said I wanNA play your songs. You were the one who I'm going through. Cincinnati with a load of orange juice and I. I've message you and re requested song. I don't remember what song it was. And you play the song I request that and then you go. And here's one from long-haul Paul himself as Bessemer to Birmingham. I don't know if I should say this on over the radio I had to pull over and I literally lost control of my clapper. 'cause I'm being played on W. S. m. The flagship station of the grand old opry. And and and nobody did that for me. But you so so. Thank you test kind of consider just the importance of all night. Radio to a trucker. Find yourself on the night shift. Maybe your load was late. Getting getting out of the dock. And you've gotTA get north of Cincinnati before traffic hits in. Its three in the morning and and you just need something to engage you something to keep you awake and and and so you turn to Marsha lie for Music City. Usa This is the all nighter. I'm a cable on six fifty two headed Marzia and being the angel of truck drivers in the middle of the night wanting to hear or the human voice on the radio. But she's got this really interesting backstory. I was a stay home. Mom after my second son was born I was looking in. My walls are covered with CDs and albums so I called my local radio station and I said do you by chance. Have any time to meet with me. A about a programming idea and I went down and next week. I was on the air doing to our bluegrass show free. Wd Cayenne twelve sixty am. That was my hometown radio station where the foundation was laid. Of course I played the legends of Bluegrass Music. Bill Monroe Lester flatt roles but I would make tapes and record the show and I would take this tape to my radio mentor Keith. Bill Brey. She would send tapes to Keith. Bilberry was professional. Dj WCM. And I think he also helped announced the opry and I said listen to this and tell me what I need to do. I suppose I followed his guidance. He was in need of an a radio host syndicated across the country over twenty five different stations. Brooking America is listening to the interstate radio network interstate radio networks catered to the truckers and my first night on the air. The phone lines lit up. She just kept growing her craft and she winds up on the Interstate Radio. And then she longevity. Ws WS at that time did not have an overnight personality and I went straight to the general manager at that time and I said can we talk is America's trucking Sweetheart Marcie. Campbell pitched another program. This is the all nighter on six fifty playing music. We're doing this day in history. We're doing trivia. Well a number one song on this day in. Tell me when your birthday is. I keep a calendar. It's like I wanNA wish everybody heavy birthday talking joy. Peace celebration to everyone. Please slow down and drive with caution overnight clear skies what means so much to me about Marchesi after two thousand one after nine eleven in particular like night. Trucking radio just turned into constant talk about you. Know all the yanks that was going on in the country the United States military has begun to believe. There's another men through that. A lot of trucking four-match just dropped music altogether. And I personally I I kind of checked out after that I'm not hardwired For constant angst constant umbrage and data. Didn't keep me awake. What kept me awake was hearing Jimmy. Rogers Blue Yodel at three in the morning She it took her a few years but she resurrected that format. Dixie chicks with asleep at the wheel Johnny Campbell Christain Party millionaire and for that reason if she had never spun one of my songs I I would still consider her a Harem Nighttime brings out more sensitivity and you're joyful it mag it's magnified if you're lonesome if you're sad if you're hurting when that sun goes down it's magnified but when you know someone cares about you at the other end of the line whether it's the radio line telephone line because my phone lines are open. Call me if you're struggling. Then let's play a game or let's play some music. Let's get you going. You know it may be that twenty miles or two hundred miles so I learned to be a friend at the other. End of the line and So my callers are Honky Tonk irs. There truckers their gypsies their nighttime workers or it may be Miss Mary. That lives down the road who can't sleep at night. She's widowed and she loves country music so I have the audience that God wants me to have and I pray that I can be a beacon and the middle of the night whoever needs my light or my shine or My heart my attention. I pray that I can deliver long haul. I wish you happiness in good health peace and love and I wish you Enough Godspeed. My friend Next poll well. I'm going to tell you about my friend. Big Jim this is about as old school of a friendship and trucking as as you can come by we we met on a CB in Georgia north Georgia. I think I passed him somewhere right. Around the skill you know turned his lights off and on to let me know it was safe to come back in. And he was in a company track then. I was an owner operator. I think you saw who I worked for. And I talked to one of their drivers like the week before. Who said he was doing about a quarter million a year on his ten ninety nine and you made some kind of common over the CB how you like working there and we ratchet jarred all the way through Georgia. Then I decided I was going to give his company try and we celebrated that decision with a with a piece of cheese free cheese as it may be free cheese. These guys were like running pure outlaw. It was a thrill aid. Really will like the principles of this company. We work for were like all wearing ankle bracelets literally wearing ankle bracelets because of flagrant logged violations and back then this was my mindset. I was like cool. Where DO I sign up? One of these chance meetings on the road which became a lifetime friendship and through analysis span of decades. We've we've seen the highest of highs together and really the lowest of lows my name is Jim Selker and I'm from a little town called Juno Alaska. The other one in Wisconsin. You know the thing about Jim was he was just such a unique character because he grew up on this farm in Wisconsin and almost like this Christine Norman Rockwell town in Wisconsin. If you're if it has a church a bar and a garage it's a town. I mean there is Polka music on the radios at his family's farm we would acquire everybody's favourite alcohol and it would go in a big milk can with ice and fruit juice and that would like ferment. Then anybody walking through the barn would help themselves to cup of the two years we called. It had some walk man. Oh man his family had like some of the top dairy cattle in Wisconsin. But he didn't want any part of that and trucking was a way out for him and I went working for a buddy of mine who hauled exotic cars. They just found like this the bipolar opposite of his upbringing. I picked up a Lamborghini in Kentucky convertible black and nobody cared about the mileage. I had that car with me for a good month and I got my use out of it. And here's the thing I live vicariously through these people that that's a site they lived a life. I could not dare to live and I've told Jim that so many times. I just wanted to hear his stories. Because these weren't really stories I was ever going to offer. You said big. Jim Was Company driver when when you guys I met on the CB on I seventy five in Georgia there but he he did eventually By trucks right. Yeah yeah no he. He wound up buying a truck and he did well with it and then he bought a newer truck fellow down in Georgia had a decal shop down there and he made me under dollar bills floating up the the entire side of the truck and I call myself easy money trucking and he was really pop in there for a while back then we get paid by the Nine L. T. L. So the more you could stuff in your trailer. Though more you got eight. So He'd go book say Eighteen Pallets cantaloupes coming out of and then he call her aid finds a guy who's got a few few pallets of watermelons or something. You know he he. He was just a working machine. It was new partially for the money but also partially just to see if you could get a dengue what we did was. We would put on more freight than we were supposed to dodge skills so away to flirt. We go stuff the trailer fool and Mata it was almost like addictive was a cat and mouse game. And you're kind of culture where everyone was doing it. Yeah that's that's pretty much true as I look back at that I don't. I'm not trying to valorize what we did resist. It's just seemed like the only way to make at the time so we were just trying to make every dollar we could and I guess Gen. All of our outlaw always caught up with us and in fact you were the first one to the host. My hospital bed which I'll never forget. Can you talk a little bit about that solemn duty that you were somehow saddled with that you had to do for me that day? I was actually at home when I got the call from the company we worked for that you had been in Iraq. We haven't really talked about this directly before in it but I was wondering if you could just kind of pay me pitcher. What happened that day of the wreck ball? You know you're doing multiple drop loads. If you just had one person hold you up. You could really get in behind the eight ball so I was behind the eight ball turning and burning going from Florida to his consular. Produce and Wisconsin Florida with refrigerated product. And just just pushed it way too hard and I just I not off so I found where they had told your truck down there and man I was all. I was surprised that you were alive. That truck was in that much of of a of a wreck. I was really surprised that you made it through it. I was an ICU. And and I broke my neck. You Know I. It just meant a lot that he was there and And I don't remember if we could even speak at that point because I had to write for awhile I they had me up all hooked up and all that stuff and And and and you know it wasn't till that interview He was like almost scolded me for all the cheese that I ruined racking out just so you know. I had to throw a lot of cheese that week to everything at slid forward just kind of exploded in inside you know really I guess. I never knew that we never talked about. Did you have to take a lot of cheese to the dump? You never take cheese to the Dome you can use. That's that's like sacrilege for somebody from Wisconsin. I could just imagine the tragedy of the cheese. Okay Yeah yes you get it in of injuries but you should have seen the cheese so now. You're down in Miami Florida at a chunk. Aaron what did you have to do then? I look to see you know what I could recover for you from your truck and quite frankly there wasn't much and if I remember correctly the only thing that I really got for you is maybe a couple of close in your guitar. You know you and I and I don't think about this on a daily basis but you and I have been through a lot. Yeah it's Y'all life hands you things in got two choices either deal with it and go on or you let it get to you. How your career as a trucker ended about a year ago? Now Yeah just a little over a year. My kidneys finally gave out. So I'm on dialysis now and and Apparently the The feds won't let your drive a truck when you're on dialysis. I don't know why but apparently not the medical staff was very nice. They let us go interview right there when he was actually in dialysis. How has your life been since you got of trucking? I really don't Miss It. You're a slave to that truck and if you know at some point in time maybe it's their you figured out. There's more to life than eventually the machine often we were rousted out by the nurse. We've been asked to step out and will be record role out okay So our last honoree in long-haul Paul's hall of fame is a fellow by the name of Fast Ready. Yeah I I wrote a little essay about this because I just wanted to. I write better than I speak and I just wanted to put this in writing. So this is called the Pope of pomp and met in the phone room of the Florida State. Farmer's market in Palm Beach the room itself is best I can remember was about two hundred square feet with worn out carpet. A few dog eared chairs and a wall with two. Maybe three payphones. When things were really popping back in the ninety s you might have to wait five ten minutes until your turn for. The phone came up. For that reason. Brevity was appreciated and expected. That said there was no guarantee wouldn't get stuck behind some truckstop. Romeo who would throw etiquette to the wind while trying to work out. Some intractable relational snag with the second shift cashier from the Shreveport. Petro that kind of call with illicit intentional cough clearing of the throat and after yet more time the five minute cheetahs this particular day. There was a haggard. Looking Man. Feeding quarters into a seven minute apology to New York judge. Yes your honor. I fully understand. Sir I give you my word. It will never happen again. Yes Sir I fully own. It was a damn stupid thing to do thank you. You won't regret this sir. And then best I can recall. He started running out of quarters and began gesticulating to me smiling a bit just needing someone to break a couple ones fast. I just happened to have the right. Change Truth be told. I was so engrossed by what sort of trouble this guy must have gotten themselves into. I was enjoying the show and the call finally concluded his contrition evaporated abruptly concurrent with slamming down the receiver. Jesus was always say turns out. He went by Fast Freddie and when my own call was done Freddie was lingering by the door what are you Polish. He asked German. I replied and we wound up at a table together. So what did he do? What was the apologizing for? I don't know if there's a traffic thing like he. He was a guy that stayed in trouble constantly. It's like trouble. Trouble was like his daily staple. So here's this chance meeting in this phone room and the I'd join him and seems like every other guy that's walking into. This market is scanning the room seeing Freddie and walking up to our table and like like he's reporting for duty or something and I'm insinuated into his circle without even trying because I just happened to be sitting there and everyone that came up. Freddie wants you to meet my Polish friend from Chicago. And I'd say German. Freddie from Indiana German from Indiana could not peel him away from that screaming and kicking. I was always a Polish guy from Chicago to him. So so Paul I. I understand that fast. Freddie is no longer with us but you had an opportunity to talk to his daughter. Evelyn my name is Evelyn runs and I am from Cincinnati New York. He was so interesting about Evelyn was like she was embracing the whole thing. I admired the shit out of that man you know. I was his number one mechanic when he was home. I was the flashlight holder. I was the one you know dodging the tools when he was getting frustrated. She was driving a semi at the age of eleven. I was calling to reach the pedals and see plenty above the steering wheel so he would put it on cruise and she would go in the bunk and hold the steering wheel and I would sneak up around him and jump in the sea and dry for hours and hours left So Paul do you remember seeing Evelyn out on the road when she was a little girl? Oh absolutely all the time I whenever shot in the summertime when you saw Freddie you saw Evelyn and he was just a guy that always had to have those kids with any would always teach US sometimes to go around the Scales and sometimes how to be good way he'd be like. Oh well we're going to go the scenic route tonight. You know I'd be like Oh you know you got logbook filled out dad. Oh Yeah Yeah. Yeah Yeah I was like okay. Let's go yeah. There was no such thing as running out of hours. There was trucking in trucking and trucking. And then you take very short quick nap and trucking some more. After I came back from Iraq I was I was Kinda disfigured and Facially and my posture had changed. And the first thing he said when he saw me as what the hell happened to you. I told him goes. You're using drugs. I go no well. There's your first problem hard that exactly. I could see. Yeah if you were doing drugs that have been awake not sleeping. And he was ex- golding may for not using drugs so that was classic fast Freddie right there but you know Freddie the thing about Freddie was he I saw him as sort of like this outlaw trucker dude but he he he had this complete other side to him that I would have never seen had. I not been stuck in the POMPANO market. One thanksgiving I think might have been a Oh seven but it's the Wednesday before Thanksgiving and like Freddie like stands in front of everybody like like he's giving this commission he goes. We're going to have a fish tomorrow. Call every crack Horn every homeless bum. I even want you to invite the flat betters. We're going to have a Thanksgiving feast fellas. Wow you know the funny thing to say but it's it almost sounds like a Bible story. Yeah it was like know. We're having a feast. Invite the greatest to least and there was a there was a guy there who was known as Alonzo. The broom boy Lonzo had a drug problem and he made his living by sweeping people's trailers out and And Lonzo sat away from everyone because he he didn't bathe much and and Freddie made him a plate in there on the curb right next to him they ate together and they talk like old friends and then one narrow done eating. He came over to me and told me. Alonzo's whole story is just unbelievable. Everything he knew about Alonzo and I realized in that moment you know were Ralph Waldo. Emerson says every man is my superior in some regard That this guy who you know was always a mess. Always in trouble was also just this wonderful human being too. You know the the the guy who's a most down and out and I that always stuck with me. Does Evelyn remember that night? She absolutely does. That was the coolest thing I was like. You Know Dad. I really wish you were here for Thanksgiving and none of our family events wherever peaceful ever. So he's like you know I would much rather be down here with these people making sure all these crack whores and all these bums are fed. Been dealing with the nonsense home today and I was like you know that. That's that's Kinda cool. I'm not even mad about it and the crazy thing. This wasn't ice. I I didn't know this at the time but this was not isolated to pompey. No no no. He was like that every there were certain truck stops from home to Florida that he would stop at and in each of those truck stops. It was the same type of thing that you've seen in Pompilio so up up at hunts point you know. Evelyn tells the story where everybody even knew him up. There and hunts point is a big place. It's not Po. The pop no market. It's ten times as big as pompey. No mark it's in the Bronx. I remember I was like nine ten. Maybe and he'd be like well. You can go down to Mike's to the Chinese placing get. Get yourself something. They're not closed yet. I'm like but dad it's dark I'm little mom. Says we should be scared. He's like oh I know all of these people here. You're fine and sure enough. I could walk down to Mike and my sister was with us and you know we had to use the bathroom and this tiny little Chinese lady pulls out. The machete biggest. She is and my dad. You know started to go up and she go. No you stay here. I take them Venos- and up the stairs dragging your machete. She went things like that. Have stuck with me for these years. Just things that you never. You don't experience any way else. Besides in a truck Truck Gentil three days. Before he passed away he'd kept. You know sickness a secret and We knew things bad but he tried to avoid coming home as much as possible and he called me and he was in New Jersey. And he's like I'm at this exit. I can't I can't go anymore. You have to come get me off in the middle of Nineteen New Jersey. We want and that's when he took his last step side of his truck apparently After Freddie died the truck was parked somewhere had to be moved away from. And it'd been sitting for probably six or seven months. It just refuse to start. We had three or four guys. Come out and try to help us and it just did not want to start one of the guys like you know what I'm sick of this. Evelyn you get up there you do this. I had my youngest daughter with me at the time. She was like a year old through her. Up In there and I just sat there turning the key and hitting the gas going. Come on please. Start to start. Please please start come on Dad. Please Start and then all of a sudden black smoke everywhere. I instantly tears running down my face and I was like all right guys like I don't have a CD L. I can't drive. Even they're like what do you mean can't drive? I was like why can't drive do and they're like well. This is no different so One of my dad's friends jumped up in the passenger seat. And he said come on. Let's go It was the most wonderful thing though. I got to know Evelyn. I wrote a song called good hand and the character in that Song live by simple ethic you put the load I and let us take care of itself. One day a man wrote to me out of the blue and he told me how much that song reminded him of a driver. He knew who used to run out of the PUMPIDO market a guy who went by fast Freddie. I said you're not going to believe this but I knew Fred. He was part of the inspiration for that song as it turns out this man. Also new Freddie's daughter Evelyn. Someone I hadn't seen since he was just a little girl next thing. I know I get a message from Evelyn herself. I mean what are the chances of that Evelyn would later? Tell me that her dad's heart had simply exploded days after his last run. It literally run himself to death. Like a Racehorse. Always looking after the load. It's one thing to write songs about this kind of thing. But Freddie Freddie was the song now you dark a drawl hard pound Hannah keys you to your face for the U. and Santa and squanded and code and how y'All ran Trad Wall Big Play Hello Longman Solas and fall the Pash man standing. Say a good hand. Pay Run on Tandy's Just turn Australia Man There. And it was for ma. It was all too twin turbos hound and cross the clear Santa Rosa Sky Brown Bob. And how it this was to be fat or an John. Do over the road. Pit crew includes producer and sound designer and costs and contributing producers Lacy Roberts. At transmitter media are editor from overdrive magazine is Todd. Dell's our digital producer is Erin Wade. Our project manager is Audrey mortgage and our executive producer for radio TOPI Is Julia Shapiro? I'm long-haul Paul. All the music on the show is by in caution myself featuring performances by Michael Gilbert. Ronstadt Travis the snake man. Ramic Terry to socks. Richardson Titian Lingo. Jim Whitehead Jan Grant. 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