Hour 2 - Bruce Feldman and Tim Sullivan (09-12-19)

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Jovovich is a great personality and these guys are still dominating tennis and they're in their thirties but I don't I don't watch it as member Chrissy and Martina the wonderful rivalry I mean that's what you need in any sport. You WanNa rivalry in certainly an individual individuals sports when you have that that's that's what makes it great you wait for that showdown tiger never had that like tiger was waiting for somebody to stand up to doing like There's there's no second best Golfer in the world. You have to go down to third best Golfer. I think it's great that you brought a tennis. If you put men's tennis on that pole will there hasn't been a threatening American men's tennis player. I don't think since Andy Roddick not threatening top-five consistently Golden Road in the beer available in all fifty states take on the summer heat with Golden Road Bruin California inspired. Ask about the mango cart light wheat ale bursting with fresh mango. Mango Golden Roads will pop is a riff on session. Ip hoppy refreshing while the matic making great for any occasion. It's a little bit of sunshine. It's a little bit of California Media Palm Trees Pacific Ocean warm sunshine all things California Mango Cart Wolf pups session California inspired Golden Road Brewing. We'll talk to Bruce Feldman Feldman covers college football for Fox sports and the outlet ICK. We got our poll question. No change in that poll question mclovin. We can change it. Should we do a whole new set of sports that have faltered NASCAR tennis in there or We go in a different question. I have a question for you yeah for Bruce on WHO's more a must win game for Cam Damn or Jameis Winston. I saw a tweet that this is the most important game of James Winston's career. He seems like he's headed for cliff. I don't know where it's Ville Yeah. I don't know if he can and salvage his career with just one game now. He's got to show consistency but you threw three picks including to pick sixes. Yes someone onset on twitter that what you're doing right now. Is that overreaction. This is over pre-action because it's before the game you you've over pre acted to this which I like. I think that we should we should coin. Yeah sounds like a T. shirt all juicy where Lebron he didn't get to trademark TACO Tuesday shocker. You got got the word yesterday so Ohio State doesn't and get to trademark the and Lebron doesn't get to trademark Taco Tuesdays kind of overreach both parts. I liked the I I really do. It's hard to prove that you invented the word the when you didn't yeah if you can't be the first one to use it probably most commonly were so the US patent and Trademark Office yesterday turned down Ohio States requested trademark the in conjunction with universities name on its the items marketed for sale such as t shirts baseball caps and hats. Let's say they say such the applied for mark appears to be we used in it merely decorative manner that would be perceived by consumers is having little or no particular source identifying significance denying. Ohio Ohio State's request Lebron also heard that he doesn't get to trade more TACO Tuesday taco Tuesday is a commonplace message and therefore failed to function as a trademark. Yes I would love to see some guy who works at a pet dolphin who's a Michigan grand and he sent it back. The Patent Office has refused your appeal or a scorned in Miami Heat. Fan Is Lebron lefty. Oh he wants to you know. You got no chance with that buddy. I mentioned this story. That is ongoing. It's fluid is we like to say the. NCWA says California's schools could be banned from championships. If this bill isn't dropped and the bill in California Gornja would allow college athletes in the states earn compensation for the use of their name image or likeness beginning twenty twenty three. I I don't know what happens happens down the road with this. If your power five conferences once once you allow one st to do it all the other. It's like like gambling. It's like marijuana once they see the prophets they see the you know what could be you know built on this then that's when you have other states how can the NC double a. do this and not all of a sudden said all these California schools hey you. We're going to prohibit you from participating. NCAA championships so that's twenty-three Ncaa Division schools for which were in the PAC twelve conference yet if the end and say decided to buckle on this and say okay all college athletes control their own likeness but you can never ever be paid by that institution doesn't solve solve the problem of paving college athletes because then the offensive guard who doesn't get assigning the old down the street at the mall. He can't say now pay me. The schools never have to pay so they they keep all the money so all the football schools. They say well cool. You can control your life. This have an an agent or a of signing deal down the road at the mall but you never get get paid by US cool or good guess who writes apologised hit on sort of what I wanted to mention was how do you allow them to control their likeness and not have an agent and if you're allowed to control your likeness and profit off of it then you have to have representation out there finding that money for you to design your gatorade deal or your car dealership deal. I somebody has to to do that on your behalf so you have to open up this agreement to allow college students to have representation whether it's an agent or PR marketing whatever it is you know you could have a marketing in person. I think that they would cringe at the term agent. I mean it's a marketing agents. Yes mclovin determines representative it marketing representative represented and that means I get a ten percent cut in compared to the agents three percent which is a big deal so we'll hear from Bruce Feldman coming up a little but also there's controversy justify won the triple crown and apparently the horse failed a couple of drug tests and there was a cover up in this now. If your horseracing less than you want to do is you you want the best horse out there like you want a triple crown winner you get all of this. You know fan interest there and now now we find out that justify may have been illegally doped up here. Yes Boeing C marriage joking. What if like you in some type of course tranquilizer something to make the horse go faster. What is like a weed tests? TV failed the horse itself failed test for we'd Molly why take a recreational drug to help them. I just be more cool around the stables. did you hear what justify got busted for Molly. You don't get out of here. It doesn't help you raise fast or no just kidding me. I'm killing it in a stall. They've footage of three horses walking to the bathroom during the party. Hey where are you guys going. The the square swinging the square horses Ila Stabili complaining about all the noise all night. Keep it down in. Their horse won't stop grinding. It's GONNA BEDS SAYS WE'RE GONNA couple of days here eight seven seven three. DP Show Email Address TPS Dan Patrick dot com. Let me see what else do we have. Football game coming up tonight. I mentioned is cam. Newton is he healthy is that is that the reason we haven't seen the you know. The real cabinet will ever be healthy again. Those are concerns that I have and that's what I'm watching for tonight. I WanNa know but you know Kamara's GonNa look like and is is he healthy. Is he going to get healthier. Yes mclovin shoulder. Injuries are always tricky like luckily great after he finally came back from a shoulder injury but you know who's a quarterback. Aku sheltered Kapernick always have took forever to come back from his show that shoulder surgery can really hurt quarterbacks. Yes at you've had it. Does your arm feel. The different effort doesn't feel much better but I'm not trying to throw a football in tight window. Fifty yards ripping drew brees. His arm strength the left right by the way he's a shoulder. Bruce Feldman Fox sports the Athletic College football writer join us to give some perspective this affair pay to play act in California. I guess the NC L. NCWA says it's harmful unconstitutional would up end the balance of National Competition in College Sports. Wow Oh wow this is not so if it passes not supposed to take effect till twenty twenty three. What else can you tell us about this Bruce Yeah. It's it's really unwieldy data and I think the NCAA is is really scared of it. mark Emmerick the president has come out and really tried to make some threats about it and I think talking to folks all over the West Coast who work in college athletics. I think the thing that they're scared of the unintended consequences. They think that will come with this and what we're talking about is is some of the stuff that I think gives them. The most concern is doing deals with card shows and doing deals with what you might call the low hanging fruit that you know some you see a lot of people do where it's like okay. How do you monitor that kind of money where it comes from this. It's going going to be an easy easier way for boosters funnel money to players and I think that's the part there. They know that that's going to be a big problem for them in this but but this whole name image and likeness thing that's coming down the pipe the NCAA really is tried to get tried had to get a handle on it and they're really not able to do it and I like. You said it's twenty twenty three. It's really unwieldy and I don't think anybody knows really where it's headed at this pointing to what the NCAA can do about it because at this point the NCAA knows it always loses the public relations battle on this front especially when everybody else is making a fortune including you know us in the TV business on it and the students while they're getting an education and that's not insignificant people looking at go. There's gotta be a better way to deal yeah. I'm just trying to understand how you can do it. How you can monitor it make it above board and I have no problem with these athletes. It's cashing in on their image in their likeness because it is their image and their likeness the ED o'bannon lawsuit does that factor in it all with where we are in California it does and I think some of the things that are kind of budded into this. I mean look the NCAA has has tried ride to get at its rules of amateurism and right now. There's a working group. That's that's looking at recommendations. Gene Smith WHO'S THE AD at Ohio live state is one of the most powerful people in college sports. He's you know he's on that committee. As is the Big East Commissioner Val Ackerman and I think what they're trying to figure dot is okay. Do we their new model. We can put forward that can and make this a little more manageable because right now. You're battling stuff. I think there's been a lot of cases that are that are coming. I don't WANNA say coming to a head but they're coming down. The pipeline and I think what the. NCAA is is really really struggling with. Is You know what happens with like how do we get control of. This 'cause just right with the opportunity for for to be not to be unnecessarily. Just use the word exploits but just taking advantage of where the amateur mature model in some would call it a farce already but they're still trying to hold that model in whereas the the the players are not there are amateurs matures in everybody else's professionals and so once that comes to it and somebody says and now these recruits are much better known as as as commodities when they're coming up in high school you know through twitter and social media. They're they're much more accessible so here's the opportunity for a lot of people that identify them as as this five star this four star what they're worth is and I think that scares a lot of people not just the NJ I think it scares a lot of people who work at the universities and the apartments about that too and all it takes is one st to do it and then you can guarantee you. Will you know Ohio Alabama. You're going to have these different in states where you have you know Michigan where we gotta keep up with them and then it feels like you know it's like I mentioned it's like sports gambling or marijuana in one state does it and then we see what the benefits are and then another state or you have to keep up with the you know these other you know getting out just keep up with USC that they're going to your players and I think even more problematic than than the marijuana law. It's for for universities because then a lot of ways I I think what they look at it as the biggest threat to them and we see this in the basketball scandal that's been going on for like two plus years is the NCAA is holding onto a model. A lot of people getting come on. Let's be honest. There's a lot of cheating that goes on and I talked to a lot of a lot of coaches around the country who thinks the cheating heating and college football right. Now is as bad as it's ever been and again. I think that goes back to what I said. A minute ago about how they these recruits in commodities as of what they are now are more well known and more people know about them and the dollars are bigger so I think that's where this thing gets to be so messy for them and there's just so many different more ways people could skirt the system and quite honestly cheat the rules and again Dan. I think what's different here. Is What's a rule versus. What's the law and that's something that the NCAA has always kind of tried to sneak its you know hands around and Eh has it's harder and harder for the NCAA to do that. Bruce good to talk to you. I know we got a little time before this is put into play if it is ever put into play it's it's to me. It's not a matter of if it happens but when but you know they're looking at twenty twenty three thank you Bruce as always thank Bruce Feldman Fox Fox sports. He also writes for the Athletic College Football. 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Let's take a look at Monday night action but I make sure you go to bet that. Das I dot Com and use Promo Code D. R. One. Oh one Monday night we have the Cleveland Browns at the New York jets with the New York jets being a three point home underdogs on ESPN ESPN and eight fifteen eastern kickoff as the NFL celebrates. Its one hundred season. We get a rematch of the first ever Monday night. Football game browns at the jets. This will be a game to see which fan base gets to jump off the ledge. I as both teams look to avoid the dreaded. Owen to start two thousand eighteen number one pick Baker Mayfield squares offers number three pick Sam darnold and what should be very fun matchup for everyone except jets or browns fans once again. Make sure you go to bed decide dot com and use Promo Code D R. One A one first time users get one hundred percent bonus on their first deposit. That's Betty aside dot Com Promo Code. Dr One oh one remember. It's only game until you bet it at the SL. More phone calls coming up. Dan Patrick Show eight seven seven three. DP Show tennis's another sport that sort of fallen off but it was so high when you had US stars there when US men we're playing McEnroe and you had connors then you had pete Sampras Andre Very Agassi. It's still there because of Serena but I do think that I don't know if it's territorial. I still love watching the doll aw Federer is he's almost brilliantly boring Djokovic. A great personality and these guys are still dominating tennis and they're in their thirties yes but I don't I don't watch it as member Chrissy and Martina the wonderful rivalry I mean that's what you need in any sport. You WanNa rivalry in certainly an individual sport when you have that that's that's what makes it great you wait for that. Showdown Tiger never had that tiger was waiting for somebody nobody to stand up to him and they're like There's there's no second best Golfer in the world. You have to go down to third best Golfer. I think it's great that you brought a tennis. If you put men's Tennyson that pole there has been a threatening American men's tennis player. I don't think since Andy Roddick not I mean threatening top-five consistently Golden Road. Try the beer vailable in all fifty states take on the summer heat with Golden Road Bruin California inspired. Ask about the mango cart light wheat ale bursting wresting with fresh mango golden roads will pop is a riff on session. Ip hoppy refreshing while the aromatic making it great for any occasion. It's a little bit of sunshine. It's a a little bit of California Palm Trees Pacific Ocean warm sunshine all things California Mango Cart Wolf Pup Session California inspired Golden Road Brewing. We'll talk to Bruce Feldman covers college football for Fox sports and the athletic. We've got our poll question in that poll question mclovin. We can change it. Should we do a whole new. You set a sports that have faltered NASCAR in tennis in there or We go in a difficult question. I have a question for you for Bruce Sean. Who's more a must win engaged for CAM or Jameis Winston. I saw a tweet that this is the most important game of James Winston's career. He seems like he is headed for a cliff. I don't know where it's Ville Yeah. I don't know if he can salvage his career with just one game now. He's got to show consistency but you threw three picks. Including to pick sixes ensued sued someone said on twitter that what you're doing right now is out overreaction. This is over pre-action because it's before the game over. P- reacted to this which I like. I think that we should we should coin. Yeah sounds like a t shirt juicy where Lebron he didn't get to trademark TACO Tuesday shocker. You got the got the word yesterday so Ohio State doesn't get to trademark the and Lebron doesn't get to trademark Taco Tuesdays kind of overreach on both parts. I like the the the the I really do. It's hard to prove that you invented the word the Lakers. You're if you're like we can't be the first one to use it probably the most commonly means work so the US patent and Trademark Office yesterday turndown Ohio States requested trademark the in conjunction with universities his name on its items marketed for sale such as t shirts baseball caps and hats Let's say they go on to say as such. The applied for mark appears to be used in it merely decorative manner that would be perceived by consumers is having little or no particular source identifying significance denying Ohio State's request Lebron also heard that he doesn't get trademark Taco Tuesday Taco Tuesdays a commonplace message and therefore fails to function as a trademark. Yes I would love to see some guy works at the patent office who's in Michigan Grad and he sent back the patent office has refused your appeal or a scorned Miami Heat Fan Lebron left the Oh he wants. You got no chance with that buddy. I mentioned this story. That is ongoing. It's fluid is we like to say the. NCWA says California's schools could be banned from championships. If this bill isn't dropped and the the bill in California would allow college athletes in the states earn compensation for the use of their name image or likeness beginning in two thousand twenty three. I I don't know what happens down the road with this. If you're a power five conferences once once you allow one st to do it all all the other. It's like gambling. It's like marijuana. Once they see the prophets they see the you know what could be you know built on this then that's when you have other states how can the NC double a. do this and not all of a sudden say to all these California schools hey you were going to prohibit you from participating in NCAA championships so that's twenty-three Ncaa Division schools for which were in the PAC twelve conference Yampa so if the NCAA decided to buckle on this and say okay all college athletes control their own likeness but you can never ever be paid by that institution doesn't that solve the problem of paving college athletes because then the offense of guard who doesn't get assigning deal down the street at the mall. He can't say now pay me. The schools never have to pay hey so they they keep all the money so all the football schools they say cool. You can control your life this. You can have an an agent or of signing deal down the road at the mall but you never get paid by US cool. We're good guess who writes apologised hit on sort of what I wanted to mention was. How do you allow them to control their likeness and and not have an agent if you're allowed to control your likeness and profit off of it than you have to have representation out there finding that money for you to design your gatorade deal or your car dealership deal like somebody has to do that on your behalf so you have to open up this agreement to allow college students to have representation whether it's an aging or PR marketing whatever it is you you could have a marketing person. I think that they would cringe at the term agent. I mean it's a marketing agent. Yes mclovin determines terms representative marketing representative and that means I get a ten percent cut compared to the agents three percent cut which is a big deal so we'll hear from Bruce. Feldman have been coming up a little bit also there's controversy justify won the triple crown and apparently the horse failed a couple of drug test and there was a cover up in this now if your horse racing less than you. WanNa do is you. You want the best horse out there like you want a triple crown winner you get all of this you know fan interest there and and now we find out that justify may have been illegally doped up here. Yes polling see marriage a joke what what if like some type of course tranquilizer something to make the horse go faster what is like a weed test. He failed the horse itself failed test for we'd Molly uh-huh recreational drug to help them be more cool around the stables. Oh did you hear what justify got busted for Molly. Don't get get out of here and that doesn't help you. Raise just kidding me. I'm killing it in a stall. They've footage of three horses walking to the bathroom and during the part hey where you going it'd be the square the square horses and the other stabili complaining about all the noise all night. Keep it down in. Their horse won't stop grinding. It's going to bed in a couple of days here eight seven seven three. DP Show email address ep Dan Patrick Dot Com. Let me see what else do we have. Football football game coming up tonight. I mentioned is is Cam. Newton is he healthy is that is that the reason why we haven't seen the you know the real real cabinet. Will he ever be healthy again. You know those are concerns that I have and that's what I'm watching for tonight. I WanNa know but you know cameras. GonNa look like and is he healthy. Is he going to get healthier. Yes mclovin shoulder. Injuries are always tricky like luckily great after he finally came back from a shoulder injury but you know who's a quarterback who sheltered kapernick always had it took forever to come back from his show that shoulder surgery can really hurt quarterbacks. Yes at you've had it. I know does your armies me. Does your outfield different effort doesn't feel much better but I'm not trying to throw a football and a tight window. Fifty yards riffing drew breezes strength left it right by the way he's a shoulder. Bruce Feldman Fox sports the Athletic College football writer join us to give us some perspective this affair pay you to play act in California. I guess the NC L. NCW says it's harmful and unconstitutional would up end the balance of National Competition College Sports. Wow this is not so if it passes not supposed to take effect till twenty twenty three. What else can you tell us about this Bruce Yeah. It's it's really unwieldy data and I think I think the NCAA is really scared of it. mark amorth the president has come out and really tried to make some threats about it and I think talking to folks all all over the West Coast who work in college athletics. I think the thing that they're scared of the unintended consequences. They think that will come with this and what we're talking talking about is some of the stuff that I think gives them. The most concern is doing deals with card shows and doing deals with what you might call the low hanging fruit that you know some. You know you see you see a lot of people do where it's like okay. How do you monitor that kind of money. where it comes from mm-hmm is this is? GonNa be an easy easier way for boosters funnel money to players and I think that's the part there. They know that that's going to it'd be a big problem for them in this but the but this whole name image and likeness thing that's coming down the pipe the MTA really is tried to get yet tried to get a handle on it and they're really not able to do it and like you said it's twenty twenty three. It's really unwieldy and I don't think anybody knows really where it's headed at this point and and what the NCAA can do about it because at this point the NCAA knows it always loses the public relations battle on this front especially when everybody else is making a fortune including you know us in the TV business on it and the students while they're getting an education. That's not insignificant a significant people looking at go. There's gotta be a better way to deal with this yeah. I'm just trying to understand how you can do it. How you can monitor it make it above board and I have no problem with these athletes cashing in on their image and their likeness because it is their image and likeness the ED o'bannon lawsuit does does that factor in at all with where we are in California it does and I think some of the things that are kind of budded into this. We look the NCAA is has tried to get at its rules of amateurism and right now. There's a working group. That's that's looking at recommendations. Gene Smith WHO'S THE AD at Ohio State is one of the most powerful people in college sports. He's you know he's on that committee. As the Big East Commissioner Val Ackerman and I think what they're trying to figure out is okay do we is there a new model we can put forward that can at least make this a little more manageable because right now the Obama and stuff. I think there's been a lot of cases that are that are coming. I don't WANNA say coming to a head but they're coming down the pipeline and I think what the NCAA hey is is really struggling with. Is You know what happens with like how do we control of this because it is just right with the opportunity opportunity for to be not to be unnecessary like just use the word exploited but just taking advantage of where the amateur model in some would call it a farce already but they're still trying to hold that model in whereas the the the players are not there are amateurs and everybody else's professionals and so once that comes to it and somebody says and now these recruits are much better known as as commit as commodities when they're coming up in high school you know through twitter and social media. They're all they're much more accessible so here's the opportunity for a lot of people that identify identify them as as this five star this four star what they're worth is and. I think that scares a lot of people not just the N. J. I think it scares a lot of people who work at the universities and the Athletic Department's about that too and all it takes is one st to do it and then you can guarantee you'll Ohio Alabama. Are you going to have these different states where you have Michigan where we gotta keep up with them and then it feels like you know it's like I mentioned it's like sports gambling or marijuana. WanNa you know once one state does it and then we see what the benefits are and then another state or you have to keep up with the you know these other you know keep up with. USC that you know yeah they're going to get players and I think it's even more problematic than than the marijuana law is for for universities because in a lot of ways I think what they look at. It is the biggest threat to them and we see this in the basketball scandal. That's been you know going on for like two plus years is is the NCAA is holding onto a model which a lot of people look and he'll come on. Let's be honest. There's a lot of cheating that goes on and I talked to a lot about a lot of coaches around the country. I think the cheating in college football right now is as bad as it's ever been and again. I think that goes back to what I said. A minute ago about how they these recruits in in commodities of what they are now are more well known and more people know about them and the dollars are bigger so I think that's where this thing gets to be so messy for them and there's just so many different more ways people could skirt the system and quite honestly cheat the rules and again. I think what's different here. Is What's a rule versus. What's the law and that's something that the NCAA has always kind of tried to sneak its you know hands around house and has it's harder and harder for the NCAA to do that. Bruce good to talk to you. I know we got a little time before this is put into play if it is ever put into into play it's it's to me. It's not a matter of if it happens but when but you know they're looking at twenty twenty three thank you Bruce as always thank Bruce Feldman Fox sports. He also writes for the Athletic College Football. The jets will not have their quarterback Monday night against the browns more details about that coming up next what he paid you you know. Jag just another guy on ESPN around the horn. I have the talk board board with me. I'm excited to announce my new show that woody page podcast exclusively with podcast one each week. I'm giving you my raw unfiltered takes fakes on the latest news and Events and sports and pop culture. If that's not enough I will be joined by guests from the sports world. 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He has mono woo he could be out for a little while with. Mon- anybody had mono make love and I don't know exactly exactly what it is. Mononucleosis knocked me out of my junior year of college missed the whole Party for months. It was awful and that's why people are speculating that Sam Donaldson this this more than one game yeah. That's you know Manos on something that you sort of brush off and say Yeah I had that for a couple of days to rest the rest is the key and I insist season football player. There acquiesced what a bummer the showdown with Baker Mayfield and the Browns against the jets coming up on Monday night and that's not happening. Tim Sullivan Great Columnist Louisville Courier Journal had an article that says the cover up for triple crown winner justify look shameful. No matter how it's framed here the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission says that they had no knowledge of the triple crown winner the drug usage until oh yesterday and tim kind enough to join us on short notice. What do you make of this story here Tim. What what do you expect to happen well. I think what we're seeing now is that the Kentucky Derby has become the most of the two just two minutes in sports and how this is a fascinating case on a lot of levels but the thing that is most interesting to me is the behavior of the California Horse Racing Board and and it's I don't know what else to call it other than the cover up of a positive drug test of the Santa Anita Derby winner who went on to win the triple Crown whether the the drug in question had any significant impact in justifies justifies performance is something I'm not qualified to comment on but that the CHR be ignored its own precedent precedent and concealed this information seem to drag its feet between the learning of the first positive drug test and notifying Bob Baffert. is very curious. raises questions about whether there was an intent to slow walk this so that he would remain eligible for the Derby since the the second that confirming test didn't come back till three days after the Derby so they have a lot of explaining to do and you know. I haven't heard an explanation yet. That was very persuasive this about money mount ratings about making sure you had the best horse in the race triple crown like all of the above. I mean I think there's all kinds of motives I mean this is a a sport that you know where the value of these thoroughbreds so after they run can be a tremendous. I think justifies a breeding writes sold for something on the order of seventy five million dollars and he's getting I think 'cause 'cause advertised. Rate is something like a hundred and fifty thousand dollars a shot so there is huge money at stake here and when you you have have a financial interest in a Derby Horse be it as a an owner trainer or or or someone in the industry who sees an opportunity to to raise the the the level for everyone you know I think you're inherently conflicted. There are members of the CHR be who have horses with Bob Baffert. I don't know how that can be allowed but it is and I oh I think there's GonNa be some significant performs. that come out of this whether this affects justifies standing manning is a triple crown winner. I you know I think it's unlikely he would be stripped of any of those those races but you know the the question remains you know if he was tested positive after the Derby why did it take so long for for that word to you get to the bathroom why didn't think so long for the second positive test to come back and why was that concealed for more than a year tim thanks for joining us on short notice. We appreciate your time my pleasure. It's Tim Sullivan Columnists Louisville Courier Journal. There's big money here triple crown winner stud fees TV ratings and then you covered up and you see you know reportedly cover ever up to drug test with this horse and I don't think they take away the triple crown. I don't know are we going to put an Asterisk by justified. 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