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Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Xeni offers thousands of affordable. Eyewear styles starting at just six ninety five. No ridiculous markups. No hassles. Just quality affordable. I wear delivered right to you visits. Any today at Xeni dot com slash CNN. Happening now breaking news Cohen testifies. Again. Michael Cohen is now wrapping up another day of testimony up on Capitol Hill this time behind closed doors with the house of televisions committee. We're hoping to hear from the committee chairman, Adam Schiff as soon as that hearing is over calling more witnesses day after Coen's bombshells public testimony accusing the president of the United States of multiple crimes. The house oversight committee chairman says various committees will investigate Collins allegations, including the president's role in hush money payments, walking out, President Trump heads home after cutting short his summit with Kim Jong Hoon. He walked out early after failing to reach a nuclear deal blaming North Korea's demand for an end to US sanctions. But was the north willing to bargain and trusting Kim in a shocking moment during the summit, President Trump's defense Kim Jong Hoon in the brutal treatment at subsequent. Death of US food Otto warmbier why is he saying he believes the dictators claims they didn't know about the case, I'm wolf Blitzer? You're in the situation room. This is CNN. Breaking new Reggie news at any moment. The house intelligence committee should wrap up. It's closed door hearing with President Trump's former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen that comes a day after Cohen's explosive public testimony directly linking President Trump to his own crimes. Call it alleges Donald Trump Millan advance about the release of stolen democratic emails and says he broke the law as president by reimbursing cone for hush money payments. The president is pulling Cohen a liar, and is complaining about the timing of that public testimony, which eclipsed his summit with Kim Jong move. He's now headed home empty-handed cutting short the summit after failing to reach a nuclear deal and taking heat for defending the dictator in the brutal treatment and death of the American student auto warmbier off speak with congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton who questioned Cohen and our correspondents analysts. They will have full coverage of the day's top stories. Let's begin. Our senior congressional correspondent mono Raggio. He's up on Capitol Hill, so mono, what does the intelligence committee in the house to trying to get out of Michael Cohen though, expecting this hearing that's been going on for seven and a half hours to include any minute. That point Michael Cohen is expected to make some comments here. We're expect to hear from Adam Schiff, the house intelligence committee chairman it's unclear whether they've gotten all their answers, we expect perhaps at this could be carried over into next week. But we do believe that a large segment of the questioning has focused on this false statements that he made to this very committee back in twenty seventeen about the pursuit by the Trump organization of that Trump Tower Moscow project of time when he testified before he downplayed the role of the organization downplayed the president then candidate trumps involvement said it ended all those talks dead in January twenty sixteen. Now, we've learned at least occurred to the summer of that year a lot of questions about that. Whether there was any White House roller the presence attorneys role. In editing. His statement that he delivered to congress and the presence attorneys denied that they've had any role in changing the duration of the talk about the duration of how long those talks went on and discussions about. Roger stone's communications that allegedly occurred with the president least one conversation Cohen revealed yesterday that occurred when when stone told the president that then candidate Trump that he had reached out to WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange about those stolen democratic emails to get an advanced notice about that. We've heard that there's been lots of questions about that. Whether there's any corroboration to that the claim that stone and the White House have all denied, but wolf a lot of things that came out of yesterday's testimony needed further probing, according to Adam Schiff, the chairman of the committee will see if they got the answers they wanted, but we do expect perhaps there could be calling this. Maybe not me not be the last time. He's on Capitol Hill. He could potentially come back again suspect, he will Bano base Coen's public. Testimony democratic committee chairs they're telling you that they're gearing up for a lot more investigation. Threads about the president. Yeah. That's right. Elijah Cummings is the house oversight committee chairman told me that probably of big focus of his committee's investigation. Going forward will be over those hush money payments, including the presence involvement in signing for the paying off. Reimbursing Michael Cohen four paying off stormy Daniels. Claim of having an affair with the president right before the elections. Of course, Michael Cohen released a check yesterday a copy of a check that the president signed from August twenty seventeen but Elijah Cummings wants to look into that further as well as other people who are named throughout yesterday's daylong hearing he wants to bring them back. Bring them to either we talked to them to question them or even bring them into a hearing. And that potentially could include some of the presence family members who could be contacted by this committee. French if they were names. Record simplemente going. And we'll bring again a lot of information. Then I think we'll be. Leeming? But one of five. So that could potentially and crew Donald Trump junior whose name was on at least one of those checks as well. As potentially even avant Trump or knowledge of the Trump Tower Moscow project will see how they decided to pursue that. But one person's name continues comes up down Weisselberg who's a CFO of the Trump organization Coen suggested alleged yesterday that he had significant involvement in those hush money payments Cummings making pretty clear he wants to hear from him. We'll hear other communities probably want to reach out them is. Well, so this is not over anytime soon for at least that committee. He said there could be five or six committees on the house side investigating all of the allegations that came out in yesterday's hearing all unless will brings been working for the Trump organization for forty years going back. Donald Trump's own father Manoa Cohen faces a Republican call now for a perjury investigation by the Justice department based on what he said yesterday tell us about that. Yeah. To Republicans very close to the president, Jim Jordan and the ranking Republican Mark meadows. Another member close to the president center. Reflector to the Justice department asking for an investigation into whether Michael Cohen lied to the house oversight committee over variety of matters. They say are completely contradicted by court filings by this other district of New York's claims, including whether Michael Cohen sought a White House job. He said that he did not have any interest in working at the White House. They say that is contradicted by text messages seized by the southern district of New York. The also claimed that Michael Cohen saying that he didn't defraud any Bank is also a lie. They say that he did engage in some Bank fraud, although he pleaded guilty to making false statements to a Bank now Bank fraud. But nevertheless, there's several allegations like that throughout their referral suggesting that he lied to this committee lied to congress again. The course the question is whether or not the Justice department decides to investigate it that is the decision for Bill bar, the attorney general himself and right now we're hearing from Coen's camp pushing back. Lenny. Lanny Davis says his attorney Michael cones attorney says there was nothing falls in that testimony and calls these accusations baseless partisan. We'll see aware if at all got heads mono. Thanks very much as soon as Adam Schiff and company walk out of that closed door hearing, let us know we'll hear what they have to say. Let's bring in our senior Justice correspondent other Perez. Evan congress starts calling executives from the Trump organization. Family members other witnesses which of these pose the biggest threat potentially to the president. Well, Ellen Weisselberg wolf knows everything he as you said just a minute ago. It has been working with the organization for decades. He is a CFO up the organization he had he has provided information under a very limited immunity deal to this other district of New York testified before the grand jury in the Michael Cohen investigation. But he knows a lot lot more. And so if the Democrats want to go there, you have to think that he is witness number one and again yesterday his name kept coming up as Mondo. Pointed out and and certainly after yesterday's hearing. He might be a household name. Rhona Graff is obviously the president's longtime personal assistant you have to think that she has seen and knows a lot of what happened in there. Especially for a president who doesn't use Email and the second hold on. Michael Cohen has walking outlets listening around for just me. It's not much. I can say other than it was very productive as I said on committed to telling the truth, and I will back on March six to finish up. There's more to discuss. So thank you guys so much. Sorry. Sorry. You guys have to stick around all day long. There are some move. He's coming back March six two continuous testimony before this committee, Evan not a huge surprise we anticipated. This committee other committees have a lot of quotes do. Well, if and I think, look, I think these closed door testimonies, the ones that are run by staff, they tend to be a lot more productive you. You tend to see you tend to have better questions. It's a lot more organized. And look I think you could see the Michael Cohen face there. He's pretty happy with what he's doing right now. And just going back to your question. You know, I think we're on a graph. The president's personal longtime personal assistant knows a lot a great deal about what happened especially for a president who doesn't use Email. He doesn't leave a lot of records written records of of a lot of these communications. And I think what you saw from Michael Cohen yesterday and probably behind closed doors today is a bit of a roadmap for these. Investigators we anticipated Adam Schiff that committee chairman hill emerge from that room momentarily as well. And we're told he will wanna make a statement. We'll. Coverage of that. And you make an important point. Because when there's a closed door hearing like this they go into a secure room the members are there. But they usually leave it up to the staffers the staff members to go ahead and do the questioning, right? Exactly. There's no five minute time. Limit. There's no five minute time. Limit a young have a lot of members who are trying to pre for the cameras and asking terrible questions, which we sometimes see in these hearing, frankly, you have staff who have who are very very schooled. Very educated on on the subject matters and ask really good questions. Hiring is challenging, but there's one place. You can go were hiring is simple fast. And smart that place is recruiter with their powerful matching technology. Ziprecruiter scans thousands of resumes to find people with the right experience and invite them to apply to your job. Ziprecruiter is so affective that eighty percents of employers who post on ZipRecruiter get a quality candidate through the site within the first day and right now listeners can try ZipRecruiter for free at this exclusive web address ZipRecruiter dot com slash situation. That's ZipRecruiter dot com slash sl. T? You a t I o n ZipRecruiter, the smartest way to hire. Let me go back to maharaja on Capitol Hill outside that house intelligence committee hearing room, it's a secure room. Is that one of those so-called skiffs that were taking place? Yeah. It is right in the basement of the house side of the capitol and Michael Cohen making that comment that he's going to be back here on March six to finish his testimony. We're told that he had a heart out tonight and had to leave at five. So there are a lot more questions that members of this committee have so we'll Hewitt Adam Schiff has to say when he comes out momentarily whether or not the things that he wanted to ask about those conversation between Roger stone and the present that allegedly occurred that Trump Tower Moscow projects whether or not Donald Trump junior had told the president about the Trump Tower meeting that occurred in twenty sixteen all of which have been denied by various parties. What they learned from Michael Cohen. We'll see how much shift to sized reveal. But yeah, you mentioned this is classified setting the read. That's one reason why right now it's hard to get too many details about precisely. What Michael Cohen set in there? And he didn't provide much on his way out. He would not answer any of our questions. I tried to ask them about the criminal referral that to Republican members just did referring to the Justice department investigate what they allege is false statements to this committee didn't respond. Lanny Davis is attorney points said I have responded, and of course, Davids has said those charges are meritless. But nevertheless, the interesting thing that cone reveal he'll be back your March six to finish his testimony. So so the fourth appearance he has on Capitol Hill before he has jail. Maybe more March six he was supposed to begin three or prison sentence at a federal penitentiary in upstate New York on March six, but that was delayed for health reasons, he has shoulder surgery, he's recovering from that. He's not going to begin that prison sentence and now until may six so he's going to be out of jail for a while. So if they wanted to come back for yet more testimony behind closed, doors and open session. There's plenty of time. Yeah. Absolutely. And lie. Elijah Cummings said before I asked him before. Would you even bring back Michael Cohen if you were in jail, and he said, absolutely good. And that's something that he would be open to perhaps compelling to do that. If you needed to at the moment that committee seems satisfied with their questioning the Senate intelligence committee doesn't seem to have any reason for bringing him back. But the house and tells the final one that wants to question him this probably when he comes back on March six I will be the final time that he appears here on Capitol Hill, and we'll see whether or not there any of this any of these allegations of making false statements leads to further investigation of him. But nevertheless, he's not done answering questions members want to look into all the allegations. And he made at least five or six house committees want to investigate the various crimes that he has been alleging that the president was involved with over the years before he was a president before he was president while he was in office. So a lot more for members to investigate what? Come up with. We'll just have to see it sounds like there, at least the Democrats majority in the house intelligence committee feel the session today, and it's been going on since on nine thirty this morning was productive. And they were getting they were getting a lot of answers. But now, but now that they have to they want to continue this conversation. I'm are six which suggests at least to me motto. An actress for your thoughts that they're getting new information. They think it's fruitful and they want to continue. Yeah. That's could be one way of looking at it. I I was told by one member that there will have been getting some new information also been told that at the beginning. It was going rather slow. There was a lot of discussion about this background in the like not real new information that had been revealed. This is the first hour or so of testimony. And that was then the house members broke to have a vote and that delayed it for about another hour, and then the Republicans had their chance to question as well. So they've they've had they've been going back and forth about an hour. Each time. Then a half hour each time, forty minutes each time for for each side, staff members have been doing the questioning some members themselves have been doing the question the ones who have attended some of it to leave have left early as well. So this has been going on for for most of the day. But there are a lot of questions that these given the format a lot of questions probably have not just been asked yet. Especially given the timeframe of Michael Cohen to leave one reason why he has to come back. So how much new they've learned was just have to see. But clearly they were been pressing for answers for quite some time. And they just haven't gone all everything they want to learn at this point. And we're shift momentarily will be emerging from that secure room walking over to the microphone and making a state monitor stand by for a moment. What is here? He comes actually comes Adam Schiff, the chairman of the house intelligence committee is going to make. Good afternoon just wanna make a couple of brief comments and then happy to answer a question or two we had a long day. But it wasn't a long enough day. And we very much appreciate Mr. Cohen cooperation, he is obviously had three very long days. He'll be returning on March six for digital testimony. And. I think we all feel it was very productive interview today where he was able to shed light on a lot of issues that are very core to our investigation, and we're able to drill down in in great detail. So March six will be the next part of his testimony the following week on March fourteenth. We'll have an open interview with Felix Seder on Moscow Trump Tower. I should tell you. Justice at your expectations. Not every hearing is going to be like the open here of Michael Cohen. We're gonna try to do as much as we can in open session. Some we can in some we can't next week with Michael Cohen little continue being closed session. We have to. Look at these on the case by case basis in terms of the investigative needs as well as equities of the department of Justice, but we are going to try to do as much as we can in the open. So those are the next two scheduled interviews of the committee and with that I'm happy to respond to a couple of questions. Role in ebbing, potentially editing. Some of the statements that were made by Michael Cohen ahead of his twenty seventeen. What did you learn about that as well as the pursuit of the Trump Tower project Moscow project, I'm not gonna come on any of the substance of our testimony today, we will be at the pro point releasing his testimony publicly. We're not going to do that before his testimony is complete and we're going to have to determine whether there are any investigative equities in terms of the timing after his second session with us. I can't say that on a number of the topics that he testified about yesterday, we were able to go into great detail. But we also covered a number of items and issues important to us that we're not the subject of the hearing yesterday. Documentations? Oversight. He bring documents that. Arts to Russia. We are in communication with obviously. Mr. Cohen council about. Further document requests following our interview today that we'll be able to discuss at our next session. We also went through. Documents in our possession. Dozens of documents in our possession with Mr. Cohen. And but we have additional requests that we will be in discussion with him about. To make this the last question hazard. He was fully fully cooperative and answer all of our questions and. And. You know, this is obviously been an excruciating time for him. And we're very grateful that he was as forthcoming as he was we made the same admonishment that my colleague chairman Cummings may. Made so eloquently he'd much more eloquently than I that he needed to tell us the full truth, the whole truth and nothing, but the truth and. None of the questions we had for him. Went unanswered. There. You have more news from Adam Schiff German of the house intelligence committee confirming March six Michael Kohn will return behind closed doors answer more questions from members of the house intelligence committee and the staff he says, what happened today was very productive interview. With Michael Coney said eventually they will be releasing the transcript of all of these interviews with Michael cone, but they want to wait until they complete the investigation before they do. So another bit of news very of potentially significant on March fourteenth. Adam Schiff says there will be an open public hearing with Felix Seder on the development of Moscow Trump Tower. What was going on there? There's some pictures with Felix sater's right now. Evan this is potentially very significant a that they're bringing Felix sater's to testify, but be that it will be an open session. Oh, absolutely wolf. I mean, look if yesterday we got a sense of the type of person that. Donald Trump is a businessman was in business with this is Michael Cohen who the Republicans spent all day saying, he's a liar. He's a cheat all of these things right Felix sater's going to be on the order of that. I mean, he is somebody who in the nineteen nineties was in business with the Russian, mafia. He was actually convicted as part of that some kind of stock fraud scheme and years later, he became an FBI informant. And yet all of this all of that he was involved in this scheme to try to build a Moscow Trump Tower. He's the one who Michael Cohen was was working with. There's a lot of communications between him and feed exciter and trying to deal with the Russians as they're trying to build this this project and trying to go through the business arrangements trying to deal with the Russians to build this project in Moscow now, obviously that those those plans went on a lot longer than the president or his family ever admitted to during the campaign. So I think there's a lot that we're going to learn from him. And again, it's. Going to help sort of underline what kind of businessman, Donald Trump has been all of these years, right? He's been apparently in business with scoundrels people who are mobsters people who lie like Michael Cohen who lie and cheat on their taxes. So I think it's going to be one of those days where you're going to see a lot a lot of the sort of the the dirty laundry. A lot of the skeletons of the Trump organization that the Democrats want to highlight as part of this investigation. And it's interesting because one of the reasons that Michael Kohn is about to begin in may three year prison sentence is because he lied before congress right under oath about the development of this Moscow. Trump Tower projects basically wrapped up in twenty sixteen but later, it was confirmed that went through the summer of two thousand sixteen may have gone all the way up to the election. And Michael Cohen keeps saying this was going to be worth hundreds of millions of dollars potential for the Trump organization and that Donald Trump. If he were to lose the presidential election was gearing up to make a lot of money, right? Seder was at the heart of all those. Felix sater's was at the heart of those negotiations. And in fact, I think Phoenix Seder probably help get Michael Cohen imprison because it's his communications he made it clear that those talks going on a lot longer than Michael Cohen. I admitted to when he made those false statements to congress. So again, this is this is going to be one of those days where the Democrats are going to use this to sort of shine a light on the business practices. What kind of businessman Donald Trump was all those years, he's famous for the apprentice? But the point that they're trying to make is that Donald Trump was essentially in business with mobsters with all of the sort of scoundrels that he doesn't want you to know about Donald Trump at various occasions, belittled any conversations he may have had with Felix Senator barely knew. But according to Cohen Seder had an office on the same floor as the president. But the president as a private citizen. Elsewhere used to say barely knows guy. Pooh-poohing the whole thing. Standby want to go back maharajah monitor. We got some significant news out of the house intelligence committee. You're there you heard the chairman Adam Schiff say that that the Michael Cohen will be back on March sixth and then a week later on March fourteenth. There will be an open hearing with Felix center. Yeah. It's a real sign here that what Adam Schiff has been saying that he wants to investigate as part of his new chairmanship to look into any financial interest with the Russians that's been going to be a big focus of this investigation. The presence ties to Russia what he's done business wise in the in the like, and and how that may tie back to the Russian interference campaign and looking at the Trump Tower Moscow project the pursuit of that project. What actually happened is central to that? And what they find out what an confirms Adam Schiff suspicious or not that's a separate question. But it's something they want to investigate now going forward. So bringing back Felix sater's letting the public see is a rather unusual thing for. For this committee. Typically witness interviews have been done in the last congress we done behind closed doors. Adam Schiff is actually preferred that these witness interviews be done behind closed doors, but bringing this I'll publicly will allow the public to see the pursued what was going on actually with that Trump Tower Moscow project, a real sign is how they want to focus their investigation on that effort, and as well as the presence financial ties Mamie exist with some Russian entities now he would not comment about what happened behind closed doors all day for more than seven and a half hours with Michael Cohen. I tried to ask Adam Schiff directly about things that he wanted to ask about whether the White House was involved the level of their involvement in editing. The statement that was a false statement that was made back in twenty seventeen Cohen downplay the role of the Trump organization effort to try to get financing for that Trump Tower Moscow project did not want to comment about that. And I want to comment virtually about anything that would happen today. Saying there's going to. A transcript at some point. But it's not gonna be for quite some time. And they want to hear from again on March six, but significant that they want to open up one key witness interview. We'll see what they learn. But he tried to downplay expectations saying don't expect what you saw yesterday to happen. When Felix sater's comes in mid March pair, perhaps a sign that perhaps he may not reveal as much as what Michael Cohen did just yesterday. We'll see what happens on standby get back to you. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. 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I think yesterday's hearing was was really important because you saw the real Michael we haven't even seen what Michael Cohen kind of makes me has for the intelligence committee. We couldn't bring it out in our own hair hearing because they told us do not touch that that's for the intelligence committee. What we did see in Michael Kohn was a man who is was as close to the president as anybody could be closer in many ways than his wife. Michael Cohen to verify a lie that that the stormy Daniels didn't exist for all intents and purposes, I think what was most important. It's not that there were mountain of new revelations that came out yesterday. I think most important we saw a man is close to the president. Is you could be telling us that essentially the president was an on exactly of these laws, for example. That this check that he produced the storm tangles check that that that was a that that was conjured overtly between Cohen and the president, of course, presidents had to admit that sense after disclaiming it all together. So I think that the intelligence committee ought to listen hard to Michael Cohen because he was as close to the president doing his thirty or not as anybody you'll going to hear from your also just heard that Felix sater's former there's this associated Donald Trump will testify at open session before the house intelligence committee March fourteenth. What light you think he could shed on this overall investigation into the Moscow, but potential Trump Tower being built there, according to what he's really free to say. I mean, remember we've had people who. On on Collin. We were pretty sure he was not lying because there was a terrible price to pay as he was already going to jail. I this is the name that has not come to us before. One of his business associates Cohen is the first to associate we've we've had to we have had we have been able to hear from. So I do think if you are able to get one of his business to really talk you will hear from somebody very valuable. I'm not sure that is anybody more valuable than Michael Cohen because you tell your lawyer things that you wouldn't tell anybody else. Now, the lawyer client relationship, of course, doesn't exist here because of of of the crimes that have been in the Ellen Weisselberg who's the chief financial officer of the Trump organization has limited immunity, he could be very valuable. Indeed, I'll see. He's going to be brought forward. He's been working for the Trump organization for some forty years going back to Donald Trump's father. It's not clear if he's told prosecutors about anything other than the hush money scheme that was involved with stormy Daniels. But he's he's been as I say with the Trump organization for decades Weisselberg may be able to provide additional insight to your committee to other committees about other potential crimes by the president. Now doubt. Finally, this man made no about taxes the one thing we've not been able to get. But he knows about Trump's finances knows almost as much as Michael Cohen hose. I say Michael Konno's, everything because of the kind of trust you have to have with your warrior with a man who was writing the checks. That's the next person. I think we all want to hear from because everything from his income taxes who's writing checks to his bankruptcy Brank. Rough seas. He's a big deal. Did you find Michael Cohen credible? I found him credible because not only because. Of how he presented himself. I had to think what is the worst thing that could happen to this, man. The worst thing could happen. Remember he is still under investigation is that having lied and drawn a three year sentence. He would lie game. I don't think he was lying yesterday. How do you plan to act on Michael Cohen's claim that the president may have participated in Bank fraud now brand pretty getting pretty close to the president's deep involvement in legal matters. We this house is not been interested in. Impeaching the president. And I don't think even as we learn new things that seem impeachable that we're going to move forward to impeach him. And the reason I don't think so is that an impeachment is nothing more than an indictment. A US attorney doesn't bring it in Dighton unless he knows he can move forward and get a conviction with the jury, and let's face it. The jury in this case incentive the United States. It's not going to move in a more than moved on the last the last time, we tried this. So I think this creates a dilemma because more and more of what we learning. Implicates the president in teeth illegality. And yet the house is stuck on what to do congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton from Washington DC. Thanks so much for joining us. Of course, are let's bring in our experts at our analysts to assess what's going on. And it's all very very dramatic. Jeffrey, Toobin, I to you. The news coming out of the house intelligence committee that Michael is coming back more closed door testimony on March six then Felix Sater business associate was involved in the plans to build a Trump Tower in Moscow will be a question at an open hearing before the house intelligence committee on March fourteenth. Well, this just shows that investigations generate their own momentum or they die. And and the question for the house. Democrats now is how much did they wanna push this? And there is a lot. They could do. But it's going to take a lot of initiative. You know, are they going to call on Weisselberg if they call him are they gonna? Vote to give him immunity in the likely event that he decides to take the fifth what about Donald Trump junior? What about vodka? What about the other Trump executives named how should they be open sessions or closed sessions? Do they want to subpoena documents as well as individuals? I mean, all of this could be done, but it would take a ramping up that the Democrats have not done in a long time. And it will certainly generate a lot of criticism from Republicans. So we'll see whether they want to do it. The Democrats are in the majority in the house of representatives right now majority of the house intelligence committee. They're doing what the Republicans wouldn't do. So that once again underscores elections have consequences. So Samantha Vinograd Felix Sater, we're going to be learning. A lot more about this guy over the next couple of weeks rather complicated background as we heard of impress. He was once and business with the Russian mafia later convicted became an FBI informant at one point was intimately involved with. Eichel cone in planning the development of Trump Tower in Moscow that could've generated potentially millions of hundreds of millions of dollars. What do you think he will bring to the table? Let's just say here's another man with a less than stellar track. Record of associates activities that President Trump sought to bring into his orbit. And I really think it depends in front of whom he's testifying. We just found out that he'll be testifying in front of the house intelligence committee and Democrats in the house are really playing this from a team perspective, we had the house intelligence committee that's looking into counterintelligence issues so expect those kinds of questions to come up in his testimony in March, and we have the house oversight committee, which is really limited its investigation to false statements by the president and debts and payments during the twenty sixteen campaign. So we could see Phillips Sater, Don, jR, Ivanka and others testify on different types of criminal behavior. Depending on who they're in front of everybody stand by what to bring the key member of the house intelligence committee right now democratic congressman well well. Of California just emerged from that all day closed door hearing with Michael Cohen contra, thanks for joining us. Did you learn anything new from Michael Cohen testimony today? Oh, boy wolf that would be an understatement. We learned a lot of new things. I can't go into them. We're still interviewing him. He's coming back next week. There's very valuable new leads that we learned and he's been asked to bring back some documents to corroborate what he's told us. But we did find him to be cooperative and answered every question we asked so beyond what he said yesterday during the public hearing before the house oversight committee, you're suggesting that additional new information was released. Very important critical information is that right? Yes. Wolf did. He did his testimony today behind closed doors, and I know you're restricted it. What you could say until they release the transcript Adam Schiff says at one point they will release the transcript, I didn't give your committee new reason to go ahead and subpoena. Additional witnesses in the investigation. We certainly have learned about additional relevant witnesses. And that includes what we heard yesterday on the oversight committee. And I think this is really also a matter of the different committees of jurisdiction story now, you know, which one will take up which witness, but I found him wolf I have to say different than when we interviewed him back in October twenty seventeen there was just more of a a carefulness to his presentation today. He did not want to say anything that could be misleading or accurate. I didn't see him demonstrate that concern when he testified in October twenty seventeen I also. Right. When he perjured himself before the congress. He also now has a sort of Damocles if you will hanging over his head, and that he has seen that Paul Manafort went from being a cooperative witness with the government to lined or in that cooperation agreement and now faces nineteen to twenty four years in prison. I just got the sense because Michael Cohen seems very concerned about his family. He does not want to touch that same hot stove. Can you tell us? What documents you'd like to get that you wanted to bring to your committee next time around? I I wish I could will. But the chairmanship has made is that we're going to try and make this transcript available as soon as you know, the testimony is over and we check to make sure it's not invading on any investigative open investigations that are out tell us why you wanna bring Felix sater's this mysterious individual was involved with Michael Kohn in the planning of Trump Tower in Moscow. Why do you want to bring bring him before? Your committee Felix center is a Russian American. Who has worked with Donald Trump in the past has worked to bring Trump Tower to New York and is the one who pitched Michael Cohen on a Trump Tower in Moscow this individual worked on the twenty sixth floor, Trump Trump Tower the same floor Donald Trump was on. He had a Trump organization business card, and so he was very close Donald Trump and very involved in the Trump Tower Moscow deal. So there will be public benefit to understand why a presidential candidate was seeking to put a tower in Moscow at the at the same time that we're starting to learn about Russia's attacks on our democracy that I think that'll be very illuminating is he coming to your committee of voluntarily or he been subpoenaed. I don't want to miss speak on that wolf. So I'm not clear I'll just say we do seek to have every witness come forward voluntarily. I'm not aware of subpoena. That's why did you decide you and Adam Schiff and your committee to have his testimony be done in public because of the public value of understanding again, you have a candidate for president of the United States somebody who is also a business person. And he's mixing the two he's doing business in Moscow throughout the presidential campaign beyond Iowa caucus, the New Hampshire primary and not just with the British or Mexico. He's doing it with an adversary in an adversary that we would later learn in the campaign was working against our interests and interfering in our election. So it's important that the American people understand what Donald Trump's role was in that Trump Tower project, the president says Michael Cohen testimony yesterday. The president claims it proves his assertion. There was no collusion. Michael cohen. Did testify that he had no evidence of collusion. Although he said he has his own personal suspicions of collusion. How do you see it? So I said he has no direct evidence of collusion, but he has suspicions of collusion. Wolf is you know in the law, direct evidence and circumstantial evidence are treated the same. However, it's interesting that the president and his supporters in congress like to pull out what helps them as to what Michael Cohen says. But then dismisses everything he says that hurts them and call him a convicted liar. You have to take the good and the bad here. And when you take the good and the bad, it's all bad for Donald Trump. Do you believe Michael Kohn provided key information to the special counsel Robert Muller about the collusion? Part of the investigation. I can just tell you based on what we've seen from Michael Cohen's his plea that he's provided hours of testimony to the special counsel. This is a team. That's moving. Expeditiously doesn't have time to. Aced. And I I would just conclude that looking at how long he spent with them as compared to others who have been relevant. It would appear that he has been quite helpful to me. What was your assessment congressman of what Michael Cohen have to say about Roger stone assigns WikiLeaks the release of all those damaging democratic Hillary Clinton emails during the campaign when I watched Michael Cohen testify yesterday about the exchange with Roger stone. It really had just confirmed. What most of us had believe based on all of the arrows pointing in the direction that Roger stone had told Donald Trump about what Julian Assange is doing. We know from our investigation two years ago, Donald Trump, and Roger stone have been POWs for years, they always talked about politics. They talked on the phone often throughout the campaign and they met in person off. So it would actually be a natural for Roger stone, not to tell Donald Trump about this and just to take a step back wolf. Roger stone says that his conversations with WikiLeaks completely innocent. And if they were completely innocent than why when he told Donald Trump about it if they were nefarious, and he was trying to protect them. Then you could understand why so adds up to everything that we believe we knew from our prior investigation. Congressman Eric swallow the intelligence committee. You guys have been busy all day. Thanks very much for joining. My pleasure. Will we got a lot more to discuss much more and all the breaking news right after? Remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash CNN. We're getting more breaking news right now, this time, courtesy of the New York Times, they've got an explosive article that has just been posted about Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law how he received a security clearances the New York Times saying the president of the United States the father in law, Jared Kushner, personally, ordered the US intelligence community to grant him top secret security, clearances overruling recommendations from the CIA and others. Let me read a few sentences from this explosive article, President Trump ordered his chief of staff to grant his son Alon senior adviser, Jared Kushner, top secret security clearance, last year, overruling concerns flagged by intelligence officials and the White House's top lawyer four people briefed on the matter said, Mr. Trump's decision, and may so troubled senior administration officials that at least one the White House chief of staff at the time John Kelly wrote a contemporaneous internal memo about how he had been ordered to give mR Kushner, the top secret. Clearance, the White House counsel at the time Donald Mcgann, the second also wrote an internal memo outlining the concerns that had been raised about mR Kushner, including the CIA and how Mr. Mcgann had recommended that he not be given a top secret clearance. Let me go to Samantha Vinograd who used to work at the national security used to receive top secret security clearances, this New York Times story adds that this disclosure of this memo the order by the president. Contradicts. What the president said Oval Office interview with the New York Times in January when he said he had no role in his son in laws receiving those clearances. Well, I don't think any of us are surprised anymore when the president lies about process and counter intelligence issues, but let's just talk about what this actually means in layman's terms, the president of the United States knowingly directed his team to give a potential counterintelligence risk Jared Kushner access to the most sensitive information in the country. So he discounted what experts said, and he put each and every American at risk because Jared Kushner is roaming the halls of the west wing, and according to the and according to the intelligence community, Jared Kushner, should not be trusted to access classified information, we could have and I'll stress the could a counterintelligence asset roaming, the halls of the west wing because the president was either to ignorant or too narcissistic to pay attention to intelligence, we don't know, exactly. What the problems were with Jared Kushner security clearance, but officials did raise concerns over ties between his his family's real estate business and foreign governments and investors. He intelligence, right. We also know that he omitted from his forms, dozens of foreign context and had to repeatedly amend those forms, and he was a target of manipulation by multiple foreign governments, according to intelligence officials. So once again, the president was for his own personal gain for the benefit of his family willing to break from norms and overrule his own intelligence on a very sensitive diplomatic mission right now throughout the middle. East was just in Saudi Arabia met with the crown prince was in the United Arab Emirates and other countries discussing what he's trying to achieve some sort of Israel, Palestinian peace. I mean, let's not forget the secretary of everything role that Jared Kushner, we've covered a lot. But still sort of has his portfolio is vast. This isn't the SAM's point. This isn't it's not just the counter intelligence risk. We're talking about the top top top top top level of staff, it'd be concerned at any level. But we're talking about not only a man who has that role. But a man who is very to Donald Trump's eldest daughter who also works in the White House, Jeffrey, what do you think? It's just nepotism. I mean that that's a simple the president has the right to do this. I mean, he can declassified documents. He can he can grant security clearances. But what he has done is overrule, the people who do this professionally for nepotistic purposes. Everybody standby, there's breaking news. We'll get back to this story shortly. But there's another significant story, we're following President Trump's former lawyer and fixer Michael Kohn. He's wrapped up another day. This time of closed door testimony before the house intelligence committee meetings now due to return to that committee next week for more the hearing followed explosive public testimony in which accused the president of various crimes and likened Donald Trump's behavior over the years to that of a mob boss, Brian has been looking into this part of the story force Brian take us through what you're learning. Well, Michael Cohen members of congress compared the president to a mob boss several times yesterday today, we spoke to law enforcement veterans and Trump biographer who. Made the same comparison. They don't believe the culture of intimidation inside Trump's world has changed very much since he's come to Washington. Through the eyes of Michael Cohen working for Donald Trump is a lot like working for Tony soprano. Everybody's job at the Trump organization is to protect Mr. Trump. Every day. Most of us new coming in and we were going to lie for him on something tonight. Members of congress are calling it a mob mentality comparing the accusations Cohen made against the president to the same tactics used by organized crime. How many times did Mr. Trump ask you to threaten an individual or entity on his behalf? Quite a few times fifty times more five hundred time. Probably Trump himself hasn't held back on insulting Cohen week. I am not a very spot versus Mr. Trump called me a rat for chosing to tell the truth much, like a mobster would do when one of his men decides to cooperate with the government in his testimony before the house oversight committee Wednesday Cohen described an environment inside Trump Tower focused entirely on the boss. Someone everyone calls Mr. Trump a place where Cohen didn't have to be told what to do because everyone speaks the same language. He doesn't give you questions. He doesn't give you orders. He speaks in code. And I understand the code because I've been around him for a decade at your oppression that others who work for him understand the code is. Well, most people yes, Bob bosses will not utter words that are likely to get them in trouble. They'll do things by inference. By suggestion and people who've been around them in their crew or their hangers on or the people who are there fixers. They know exactly what is meant Ed McDonald. Would know he spent twelve years going after mobsters as a prosecutor in the federal organized crime task force in New York MacDonald played himself in the movie goodfellas striking a witness protection deal with mobster, Henry hill. Come on. You don't want. If you don't get me to the woods routine count. I've listened throws wiretaps. And I've heard you wanna telephone distinction between the president giving Cohen direct order such as allegedly encouraging him to lie while testifying before congress or Cohen, assuming he was doing what the boss wanted that could define if Trump committed a crime or not this is what Michael Cohen was getting at when he was saying, well, I understood what I was supposed to do. You were a better servant, Donald Trump. If he didn't have to tell you cheat this person lied that one and betray this one it was all automatic. And that made him a good capo. It made him a good conciliatory in the Trump mob. Family McDonald says after watching how mob bosses operate. He thinks the president seems to almost relish the comparisons. We have a president to seems to go through life trying to imitate John Godley, the former boss of the crime family. He starts off with the strut every time, I see him, even warm weather. He seems to be wearing the overcoat the open overcoat and has the strut the scowl on his face and the whole demeanor that we don't take nothing from nobody. The larger comparison is cultural according to Cohen and Trump biographers a culture, they describe inside the Trump organization of threats, betrayal and one way loyalty Donald Trump like most mob bosses doesn't feel beholden to the people need him. If he were loyal. He would have given Michael con job in Venice trae he would have given him a pretty good job. I believe that Michael Cohen did not get a job because his children. Donald Trump's children saw Michael as part of a servant class. They saw him as a guy who is good at being thug. The White House has not weighed in on comparisons to the mob. But White House press secretary Sarah Sanders has called Cohen. A disgraced felon and says, quote, it's laughable that anyone would take a convicted liar. Like Cohen at his word. Brian Todd reporting for us. Thanks very much. We'll have much more on all the breaking news right after this.