Trainer Talk with Scott Becker
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Again in our Jimmy Johns of Lexington broadcast studios for another brand new edition of trainer talk and want to make sure that we welcome. Everybody tuning in serious to nineteen XM channel two. Oh, one in all of you tuning in worldwide with our live streaming on your computer, or your mobile device, you're doing that horse racing radio dot net than we are. Happy to have you back on board for yet. Another. Exciting. Our no doubt about it. Because dude one thing that's always cool about this show is when you get a chance to visit with a trainer eve never talked with before and believe it or not after doing this show for what five or six years now there are still plenty of trainers. We have not spoken with tonight. We get a chance to do that. Yeah. It's always good to put a face to the name of the program. So to speak. Even though we're on radio and. This training. We have on tonight. I mean, I've been betting on his horses for a long time. I I know he's highly skilled so it's gonna be fun to talk to them in here store. Yeah. No doubt about it. He is a fifty year old native of Belleville, Illinois and began training on his own in two thousand nine cents that time he is saddled one thousand thirty four career winners. He's closing in on. How about this eighteen million dollars in person ings, he's racked up multiple training titles at Fairmount park and at Hawthorn after spending its last two winters in New Orleans. He shifted to string to an even warmer climate. He's racing at Gulfstream's championship meet in Hallandale Beach, Florida, and he is trainer Scott Becker who joins us now. On trainer talk. Presented by phase Tipton Scott. Appreciate the visit my friend. Thanks for the time. Thanks for having me. Mike sounds like it's been quite a ride for you. My friend after growing up in Belleville and now talking about saddling one thousand thirty four career winters impressive. Thank you much. Everything's been going pretty well. I've had a very good owner over that same that been blessed to work with and I couldn't ask for anything better. Yeah. We're gonna spend plenty of time talking about your current owner. Because as you said, he's he's been with you for a very long time. Now since you started in and he's been a big part of your success, but let let's backtrack even a little bit. More horse racing has always kind of been in your pedigree, hasn't it? Yes, I've had grandfather's that have had horses back to the fifties. And those individuals did they train to they were. They riders were the owners how did that work? The grandfather on my mother's side was just an owner had a spa at his own farm and then on my dad's side his dad was a trainer and he was trained her. So three generations of trainers. You you must have picked up tons of knowledge along the way where you a barn rat grown up. You know, I I wasn't a summer. I was a kid that took the programs to school with me and flayed around. Made up and called my own races. And couldn't wait till summer to go to the track. But my dad would track. Well, that was that Fairmount mainly mainly Fairmont and Cokie downs when I was very young. Oh, well, Cokie down. There's a name from the past time. Yeah. Yeah. I was very young. Then. See we call your own racist. Did you want to be a track announcer? You know, I I guess I did. We pretty good at it. You know, I in two other brothers, and I would let them pick the horses, and I would call the racist. Well, we already got one Beker that's the track and answer. We have to deal with him. Yeah. Any relations another way to keep racing Golan? When we wasn't at the track. I guess any relation to Kurt Becker, the track announcer, a Cayman. No, no, not at all. No other relation in racing at all. So tell me about your your grandfather. And what what he was doing when he was involved with the sport. What all of my one grandfather. He he was just mainly an owner he had horses. Dating back with a an old veteran. Ing run Goodrich. Okay. And my step dad's father, John full, he trained probably in the sixty that Cokie in Fairmont, and they would always ship to Chicago during the winter months and things to Hawthorn sportsman's park, and maybe a few Arlington in the summer. So that's a circuit that that you've been around basically your whole life. It's that's that's very unique. Yeah. But there's been a steady decline in racing here in Illinois, which is compromised all a lot of opportunities yet where where do you think stand with the racing industry in Illinois? Now, scott. I think right now are things that a standstill with them. Introducing a new governor next week and see where. Anything else from there that they're able to get any kind of help whether it's gaining or sports betting or anything else in general. What's the key to rejuvenating the racing product in the state, and in your opinion? Well, I don't know if this this day and age everything is done between off track betting and. Wagering online. And I don't think you get to these other tracks of people come to the races much in. The you know persons are generated more by you're on track betting in it. And it's just not there as much anymore, Illinois. Yeah. That's I think that's the whole sport. Actually. And I think the the problem comes in is the percentages decrease. When when the bets are made online that there's a bigger percentage of on-track handle, but getting people especially in in larger cities, like Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, it's harder to get people to come to the races on a daily basis because of the traffic, and I it can take hours out of your day just to get there when you can bet online and watch the race from home. Yes. Point. You know, your percentage is go down the track too off track betting to online wagering, the, lowest takeout. So the smallest gain for. I structures. So how does that affect somebody like yourself Scott as an Illinois native as somebody who has grown up there with a family, who is so entrenched in the racing industry in the state. How does that change your approach? I mean, you're taking horses now to Florida you've been in New Orleans the past couple of years. Have you had adjust the way you run your business now? Yes, I'd had to because over actually we have we use Fairmont park year around the more or less the training center for young horses to go onto other places. Whether we shift to Kentucky or somewhere else or Chicago, and they're not good enough. And we stay here participate a little bit with the lower drink courses. And we have our own form where he breathes. We have a stallion there. And he we breed there too. And I'm involved in every aspect from polling to breaking running wherever we're at. Yeah. By the way, that's owner Williams Stewart's who is a former CEO and president of Ralston Purina current president of west gate equity partners and the west gate group. He's also the owner of Fairmount park. So that's a nice little a little feather in your cap there to to be able to train for the owner of the track that helps. Yeah. Yes. It does help you. He's the main reason that has kept this place going probably for the last over ten years without him. I'm sure there wouldn't be no Fairmount park at all the e he probably has to go into pocket sometimes to keep the place up and running. But that's a that's a tribute to him and how much he loves our sport. Yes, he's giving back a lot and especially in Illinois program. And you know, we we do purchase horses at sales and just in Illinois for an open runner is just isn't economically feasible anymore. Scott Becker, our special guest on trainer talk presented by phasing tipped in Scott where did that relationship begin? With Bill starts. Here at a former trainer named Terry Justice that I was that I had horses with back through the nineties that I worked for before. And he brought me in with him in two thousand six. And then I just took over in two thousand nine when Terry decided to go on to do other things with his family and get out of the horse business. What do you remember about those early days when you were just getting started on your own? We had a little smaller operation was a little bit easier. Then and now it it takes up days and nights very much. Yeah. It sounds like you've got a lot on your plate with delivering babies, and and breaking yearlings, and you you you draw a one stop shop. Yeah. It made me quit. My second passion of a plane hockey part time. Have you given that any more time bird anymore time any anymore to skate? What about when you come here to Kentucky? Do you ever run into a guy named John secure and get a chance to skate with him? No, I have not. He's he's got a nephew on the Blackhawks. No, I have not I've been trying to skate with a friend of mine Lear, Billy. I sky go here they son that is a real good player. And I've been trying to get the state with him one time. Did you play competitively in school too? Yeah. Yes. I did. Where'd you skate? And see, what's okay. St Louis area. Yeah. That has to be tough to walk away from that. But like you said you just don't have time anymore. If you're if you're doing the farm stuff, and you're doing the training stuff when do you sleep? Yeah. On the plane, right? Yeah. On the plane and. And pro the barn in the truck. So this guy you said you had a much smaller operation when you started how many horses are you up to at this point? Well, right now, we have I have thirty at Hawthorn. We have forty seven just turned two year olds. Wow. Just got through breaking little less group that we brought over to the track. Put a couple of weeks on time on them and turn them back out for a little while. Then then we have numerous sources that before about seventeen broodmares in a style you and. And we're just waiting though start pulling season here next month. What led to the decision to take a string to Florida this year? Well, he decided he's like the Florida fail the knees. He's had a home in Florida for many many years and he just decided. To buy some more, Florida breath and go down there and keep a string down there year round. And see what happens. I guess it makes sense. If you're going to buy Florida breads that incentive program that the F T B O puts together with a lot of the different Florida bred days. I it's really strong, and you can do pretty well. If you have a good, Florida, Brad can't you Scott. I think you can you know, you have good weather for year round training there and. You're basically running near around there. There's not really much time in between a long as Gulfstream west is running the meat. Yes. So you can basically, you know, stable at the track for for most of the year if not all year. Yes. Correct. I figured I would take ten down here and getting my feet wet and hopefully get gets more stalls here after this need. I have thirty of those forty seven two year old Florida breads. Wow. Yeah. That's that's impressive. You know? Scott. You don't you don't win over a thousand races in this game. And you know, earn nearly eighteen million dollars in purses without having a strong philosophy and conviction in your approach to what you're doing. So when you think about the Scott Becker philosophy of training racehorses? How would you describe it? Well, I. We had a large operation stems people think that you're doing this that that oh factory training job. But we don't I mean. You try to individualize each horse, the they're they're all different. We don't train much of any of them the same to take a little basic concept. But there's a lot of different things. Involved in training, the big number of horses. That's why guys that I admire like bracket socks and has to go play with guys that have big operations in have big got to have a lot of good people working for them. Yeah. That's one thing that every trainer that has horses spread out across the country when they joined us on this program, Scott they've said the same thing just like you pointed out you have to have a good team. Otherwise, you can't be successful. So for you talk about some of the people that have helped you in and helped you as part of your team. I have what I have. Now. He's actually an uncle of mine by marriage. John will who must step dad's brother he has worked for me for the last seven eight years, and he travels to the other tracks always with the other horses, and he gives good feedback to me when I'm not there and. Another guy Daniel rarely Chicago that those the same when I'm not there. The give me good feedback on everything keep me up to date, and I can basically tell them what to do from there. Good grooms also. Yeah. The exercise right there. There's a lot south the bottom. Yeah. Got to have the best. You can get. Yeah. It takes a village. Right. Takes takes village. Sometimes it feels that way, you know, because your help sometimes becomes your family. I mean, your with those people quite a bit. And even if you're if you're traveling between several tracks, you still get to know him very well because you spend so much time with. Hard. It's hard to keep the same help. If you're traveling different tracks some that have families. They don't wanna do it anymore. How about your family, Scott? Do you have kids wife at home? How does it work? I have a daughter who was thirty and a granddaughter who was eight and I have a wife with note by second life with no kids that own the last fifteen years. So are they involved in any way in the training operation or now? No little she is she's a physical therapist. She has her own career. But she does like horse racing. That's always helpful to have a wife that enjoys a sport. Yes. She was just down a goal string with me over Christmas for days. So she enjoyed it this go therapist. So okay. She works with human athletes, right or at least direct covering athletes. Let's put it that way. Do you ever like bouncing ideas off of her and see if there's any similarities between working with human, athletes and equine athletes? You know, kind of on certain types of injuries and things we kinda come across a little bit of the same. Gotta love the right word for it. But we do like treatments instead on certain injuries. Cert- certain treatments has has she helped you with any ideas? Like, you know, maybe you should use this type of treatment on on a horse's injury. Or have you thought about this that kind of thing? Not really, they're they're they're really. She'd dealing allow two different types of rehabilitation that doesn't really go on with the thoroughbred in the same way. About your your daughter and your granddaughter they into the horse racing side of things to do. They enjoy it. Yeah. They come out to the racism that they do. Yeah. And and of course, Charon dad on and cheering grandpa on. I'm sure they they like when you get to the winner's circle. And again, he Scott Becker. He's done that plenty of times in his career more than a thousand as a matter of fact, he grew up playing hockey as you heard and now training race horses for a living in no time for hockey anymore. He can't skate as much as you would like. But maybe someday Scott, you kind of get back to that. Can you see yourself eventually making time for some other hobbies like that? Oh, sure. I'm sure sometimes long able to. Put them on and not too little for I'll I'll get back on the ice. Yeah. The good thing. Your wife's a physical therapist. Then he starts skating again, you'll need her. Yeah. Yes. He's he didn't give me the the some new warm up exercise. When here too old, the you just can't go lay from up and run out there. You gotta stretch out a little bit. Yeah. I need to stretch out a lot. Well, you you spend enough time in Florida, you'll probably run across Vinnie viola, and he might get you hooked up. That would be good. I haven't looked up the local ice rink around there yet. Yeah. You know, the reason I brought up Johnson Kerr's name earlier, John is, of course, the owner of hillsdale farm here in in Lexington. And he has a an ice rink that he built for his kids on his farm. And as Jude pointed out his nephew is drafted by the Blackhawks so in John played it. I think he played at Michigan state if I'm not mistaken, so he played at a very high level too. And he likes to have pickup games down here in Kentucky. So maybe keep that in mind. If you make it to the bluegrass. Although it would be great. Scott Becker with a look into that. Yeah. You definitely will. He's with us here. On trainer talk presented by phasing. Tipton scott. Let me take you back to August. Twenty eighth of last year a very special day for you you recorded career victory. Number one thousand at Fairmount park with a horse name director, tell me a little bit about that day. Yes, I'm sure he was he was a big favourite that day. We figured he would win and. And get to it. Sometimes when you get to certain. Gold like that. It seems like they take forever. You get stuck on a number or something and say it was named ninety eight and you think you'll never get to win thousand. Now, you're thinking waiting for win two thousand though. Yeah. You set your sights on the next goal. Were you close to one thousand for awhile? No, I don't believe. So there's a slow down a little bit before during the summer. I would've been getting horses in very much up in Arlington there with having just one of those times where you're the right racist weren't going weren't getting horses in and they said the big listen, Illinois, so slow. We we were used to win an over a year for a few years, and we weren't able to get there this year or starts world down. Several probably hundred fifty to two hundred starts less than we had been doing the last couple of years before. Wow. That's a lot. That can be quite a financial hit, especially when you've got the purses at at Arlington or are a little light. Yes. It is. Yeah. Scott, you mentioned something a moment ago. You said some of the races didn't go, and and all of those kind of things that can be frustrating for a trainer when you have a horse. That's ready to go you enter them in the race. Doesn't doesn't go? There are people listening right now that don't have any idea what that term means when we say the race didn't go. So for people listening explain that. What what does that mean? Why is it so frustrating for a trainer? Well, you know, generally in these conditioned book nowadays, they probably writer race horses elder forever. Say every three weeks and when that race doesn't go. In your training, and you're working toward the race and say they bring it back in the next year and go, and you're you're a week later. Now your four weeks from running in your five then you're looking at another track to go to the try to find the raise then you've got to ship. It all becomes a big burden. Yeah. And the minute you go to ship. The race goes at your home. The next week. Every time we go. Every time ever fit. Yeah. It's so frustrating short view. Yeah. Why why do we do this for a living? It's amazing. What why does somebody want to train racehorses for a living, Scott? That's a good question. I don't. I guess I gave him to go into the track with family of the kid. They just just became a passion for me. I enjoyed it. You have enjoyed. I felt like I could see things in horses and do different things and bring the best out of him. I just felt like I had a little bit of a natural ability to do that. Do do you ever feel like you're going to work, or is it just a pleasure? Every morning. No, I you know, what it doesn't. I feel like pleasure to me. We you know, it helps when you have an owner or owners that basically give you the reins and let you run the operation as you see fit to the best of your ability and let you run horses where you think they need to run that that makes it a Placer. So I cannot speak for everyone else. Yeah. That's something that we've heard multiple times over the history of this program to that. When you have an owner that you develop a great relationship with and they realized that, hey, you know, what you're doing when it comes to training horses, and they stay out of your way. It makes it so much easier. What was the Charlie Wittingham, quote, Jude that you always tell me about owner should be treated like mushrooms kept in the dark and covered. Lots of manure. Scott, you Charlie. Don't answer that. Stories. Except for his owner. Bill store has been very very good to him for a very long time. And it it does sound like that's become it's kind of transcended the owner trainer relationship. Is that a good way to say it Scott is it gone to another level. Yeah. He I mean, he's been great to me. I have no complaints. We've never had complaints with each other. He believes it me. And and I just try to do the best. I can for him. And I think with what we have to work with where we're at. We do pretty well, I would like to do better always would like to do better. And hopefully that might happen. This year. You know, he's a fairly optimistic guy. I mean, he's he's eighty four years old I read and he's buying all these young horses. And and you're getting them ready for him. So that I mean, that's fantastic that he that he loves the game so much and he can see himself, you know, in the future. Living more of his dream. Yeah. He does. It's very. Fashion of his horse racing. And he could do a lot of other things, but he stay involved and. Always hoping for something. Good to happen in his home area. Keep the track going for the people. Around here. So. I think as long as he involved everything will be ok well again, that's owner Bill stir. It's and he is the primary owner for our guest tonight on trainer talk. That is Scott Becker. We're going to get to a quick commercial break. We will come back second half of the program. We'll look back on some of the memorable moments in Scott's career in cute, including a few graded stakes victories. He's been fortunate enough to be part of we'll tell you all about those next when we return is trainer talked presented by facing tip. 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Scott Becker, we're gonna talk to Scott about that victory and some of his other greatest victories here in the second half of the program wanna remind you though, if you did miss any portion of this program or any of our trainer talk shows. They're all there for you on our website horse racing radio dot net. So head back over check out the podcast of this show. And all of our shows at horse racing radio dot net to remember to follow us on social media at H R N on Twitter and horse racing radio network on Facebook. Big race there from show. Good back in two thousand fifteen one of three greatest stakes victories tallied by Scott Becker, who is settled more than one thousand winners in his career that began on his own in two thousand nine Scott little trip down memory lane for you. What goes through your mind when you hear John's call of show good winning the future. Yeah. So good was a horse that I had seen work actually at Fairmont park for another trainer here. And. First time I seen them. They brought him up high going did some Pat schooling. I really liked the horse. He looked really stood out for not, you know, he was just an average bread Illinois bred horse, but he looked he did looked tremendous. And they run the horse. And I believe in second the first time. Yes. And. They got a lot of calls on the horse. I don't know if it was how somebody in the west coast was supposed to buy the deal fell through and. The next day. The owner just come to me, they would your over Beatrice vying, the horse they've been offering me this and that, and you know, is Jeff I wanna right to the track. And we bought it that day. Oh, wow. Well, we just kind of fell into that horse. You know, I didn't chase them. Try buying those just fill in their left. And. I was. Got him. I was looking at the Arlington Washington paternity race, you know, hopefully, we'd break his maiden and go right into it. Yeah. And it certainly worked out just the way you plan with that maiden win. And then that went in the Arlington, Washington Futurity. When did you kind of get a sense? I know you like them from the first time you saw him. But when did you kinda get a sense that you know, he could be graded stakes caliber? Well, you see that? He just displayed this natural speedy had it's always pike. And and he just he just kept to whatever you would give him in the morning. He would give you back more. But. The distance limitations. I could see had after doing a few different things in the morning that what's gonna go on to the next level. So you mainly kept them. Sprinting around one turn that kinda thing. Yeah. Yes. Yes. He I think I tried my Turkey little on one winter in. I think we ran him. And maybe the smarty Jones at a mile. It just wasn't working out to turns. Yeah. Yeah. Whether and I think he developed from fair giant us, then and. And that was basically it for two turns. Yeah. Didn't he win? What was the steak at turf way was that the W E B N steaks or one of those steaks up at that. He won. Yes. I think that was six and a half. Yeah. Yes. And they took him to Keelan to. I think he ran in the Woodford. The Woodford stakes back in sixteen. Yeah. I think that's right. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yep. Yes. Yep. Yes. Good horse show. Good Illinois Brad trained by Scott Becker, who is our guest on trainer talk. Presented by face a tipped in here tonight. Scott that was your third greatest stakes victory of your career. The first one came in two thousand nine in the great three Hawthorne derby with a horse named proceed. Be tell me about proceed b. Proceed be was cut out to be very nice horse. But to keep him from going through the next level. I think he had too much of the burn seen any. He just didn't have a very good head on. He ran some good races though. Yeah. What twenty wins? Berbie fifty two starts. That's pretty good. Yes. Yes. Yes. But he was just a cut below very good orces. Yeah. Yeah. You mentioned that the mind, right? You said he didn't have a very good head on him. And so much of being a horse trainer is not only about the physical aspect of training horses. But the mental aspect too, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. It can be a challenge with some of these. And he was very much. What's a, you know, a lot of guys know a lot of. Bernstein horses and a lot of different attitudes to. And he he was one of. So he was quirky and in difficult the train what kind of tactic suggest employ to get him to settle down. You know, you was he was very timid a lot. He would be real timid and traffic. In the mornings, very nervous. Sweating a lot. You know? He just. Always something going on with him. Is there anything you can do as a horse trainer there? Scott to kind of try to alleviate some of those problems when they get to the race track in the afternoon. Yeah. Well, there's only so much, you know, they're in the paddock, you know. And they start losing it. The only so much school and you can do over there. It's kind of amazing that you want twenty races on in in fifty two starts. That's that's quite a quite a record. Yeah. He did the E. Like, I said this. I mean, he had. The body of everything the tool there, except the mind. Yeah. And even so Scott, and maybe it's a credit to you. And what you were able to do with him. And I think the twenty winds speaks to that too. But the fact that when he when he was on the derby trail, and he was let's not forget that when he ran in. The Lane's end stakes that gray to turf way, he was third from the twelve hole that day behind the Bill Maher trained, hold me back was owned by Winstar farm, and one of the more highly regarded runners that they had that year. He was third and not beating all that far. Really? I guess about five length or so that was a big effort for proceed b. Yeah. He did win a racer to surf way he'd liked the track. He actually, you know that horse. You know, he went on three different surfaces. I believe you'll finally tracked turf the dirt. So. He was pretty versatile. We saw him in the Arlington million to back in two thousand eleven took a shot in the Arlington million didn't run well that day. But he he he ran okay. No, no, mid pack. I think he was seven ten or so something like that. We were there. He was doing good. Then we gave it a shot. How cool would it be for you and Illinois native to saddle a horse that wins the Arlington million? Yeah. That would be I guess, that's what fellow guy. No name Roger burden. So like, yeah. The peterman. Yeah. That was a day that was a crazy day that crowd went wild. It was that was so cool. Me the pig four. But I didn't care. I love that Ray so much. It was so cool to watch that wait and see everybody, you know, in Chicago and nuts. It was. It was almost like the cubs win the World Series. Yeah. Exactly. I was rooting for him. Myself yet were you there that day, Scott? Yes. It was. Yeah. It was a special day. We had the broadcast here on the network, and it was it was definitely a special day. And it was cool to see an Illinois bread win, the Illinois, the Illinois derby win, the the Arlington million. It's that's a special thing, especially when you think about the international cast that was assembled to take him on. He beat the world, really. Yes. He did. It was great feet. The best part was watching all the in English guys in anguish. They were so upset. Yeah. It was that was your second greatest victory came a few years later two thousand thirteen it was the Hanshin Cup at. Where's that on the Hinton Cuppers at Arlington? Arlington arlington. Okay. And hoagie on third mile. Right. Hoagie was the victory the Victor. Yes. Yes, hoagie. Yes. He was a cool horse. He's still my favorite of all time. Really? Yes. He is. How? Still. I still don't like losing to this day. Yeah. When you get a horse like that, that's so special. It's it's hard to you know, kind of I guess say goodbye, even if it's not on your own terms, right? Yeah. We'll tell me a little bit about how he would made him so special. He just. Just has its own natural personality and that ours. Everybody loves that horse, even probably the the connections that having now I can't remember the guy's name Michael e with the might maker. I'm sure they. They enjoy that horse. He took you on a pretty good journey to Scott when you think back to you know, running him in Keeneland and in the Breeders Cup, and you went to some the big dances with him. What what might be your favorite hoagie moment. Oh, shoot. I don't know. I really don't have one specific moment with him. I. I just like to have any men the barn. Yeah. I I can only imagine. He was my I made sure I was one grazing him all the time. I self I enjoy being around him. And I think. Maybe it's different areas. He was. He would allay made a lot more money than he's had. His opportunities were limited for a long time in the mid west. Then a few bad trips on a few bad races. He just got beat as good races. Yeah. And I think I misspoke when I said he took you to the Breeders Cup. I think that was with his new connections back in two thousand seventeen at del mar. So all right. So from that perspective, then as the trainer of a horse. The you said is your favorite horse to watch him in the Breeders Cup. What's that feeling? Like, I'm sure you're still cheering for him. But it's got to be somewhat bitter. Sweet. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. One of the the taking the year be we had an invitation to go to do by the year before with him. And I kind of wish I would have went ahead and took him there. Yeah. Huckabee made decision not to go. Well, the mentally. Those trips. I think are so hard on those horses in my operations really wasn't set up to be doing that. They count on me. The owner does everywhere to oversee everything and to be gone for a while over there. And there we and with the horse. We just thought it was best not to go. Yeah. Probably a good decision. Because you you you are an integral part of of the whole operation. And then, you know, not only it's not just going. But you know, you don't want to just go and and not run, you know to the top of your game. Or you know, I mean, you can get beat in your own backyard. So I mean, we all know how hard it is to win a race anywhere. So and it take six months or so to get your horse back and recovered, it really sometimes doesn't make a lot of sense to go. Yeah. That's what I felt like the, you know, the head. Goal were there in the Beatles. Horses and be competitively was very long shot. And then I was thinking the recovery afterwards coming back, and usually it seems like a lot of those horses miss pain, especially it'd been as first time traveling that far I just thought it wasn't a good idea. Trainer. Scott. Becker our special guests on trainer talk presented by facing Tipton on the horse racing radio network. Scott quite often will hear a golfer talk about the greatest shot that they ever hit. Or will hear baseball player? Talk about the greatest swing. They ever made. When they when they hit a home run, or whatever it might be same thing with a quarterback the greatest throw they ever made. So for you is a horse trainer. What would Scott Becker considered to be the greatest training feat that you've ever done the greatest accomplishment? Even if it's with a horse that maybe a lot of people haven't heard of. Oh. There's a horse that his name was Nagy's piggy base. He was very tough. That's Lon runner in on the Chicago circuit he was competing in the state breads, fakes and he had. Bowed in a race fully love. So he was a gilding. So we took him to the farm and was just kinda let him live out his life. There. It was very severe low logo a lot of year. After that. I'm watching this horse with the middle run the fence line like you wouldn't believe. So I told the owner I said, you know, maybe we'll take them back Fairmont and full around with him a little bit. You know, he was only like six still then I said anything comes. If injury pasta anything severe will stop on. Well, he made it back to the race. I think it was two years later. And I think I think the worst one probably seven or eight of like twelve starts. Wow. So. That's pretty cool. I always remember that one. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Yeah. It's a special story that that I start back Scott when you got back to the racist again going into the starting gate. I'm sure there were some butterflies in some anxious moments on your part what what was that moment. Like. Yeah. Well, I was thinking. Yeah. Let anything out and he's done everything in the murder warning. He's held up all the test. And then I think I ran for like eight thousand I was thinking it'll be claim him. Another one would hate to lose. Yeah. He just. You know in the horse. Never had never took a bad step one time after that. They end up getting claimed, and they sent I think I can't remember who got him out of the clean them out of Chicago symphony to del. Mar I can't remember has had him or who. But he never he never did any good. You know, that to me is the the the some of everything that being a horse trainer is all about right that store you just told Scott and we've had so many trainers on this program over the years and the law had that special moment in their career. But that one story you just shared. You're a horse trainer. You are there to train the racehorse to keep the racehorse healthy to to bring them to the racetrack to compete at the peak of their form cycle and all of that was rolled into one with that one horse right there that that to me is what being a horse trainer is all about you agree. Oh, yeah. It is. Because of the time I think we've trained I think that are some training. Maybe. For six or seven months before he ran off like two years and. The injury had. You're not supposed to come back from it one good. But and we wasn't playing on her. Like, I said it was never a plan this horse. He was retired. So that's what. What makes us special about it? Yeah. Sometimes they tell you when they're ready to come back to the track. Like, they they they don't they missed the they missed the activity at the barn. Just like like any other athlete you hear guys at that retire, and then, you know, the next year they're going, oh, I, you know, I I really retired to soon. I miss it. I miss the action the horses are the same way. Exactly, you know. Like, I said, I got older I wanna turn a horse out. And you know, you go to say word. Yep. Give it so much time they need so. Yep. That's special. That's really special Scott. Becker is our special guest here. On trainer talk presented by phasing tipped in here. Tonight. Scott trains, primarily in Illinois. But is now expanded where he's running horses in New Orleans the past couple of winters and now down at Gulfstream Park for the championship meet and as you heard earlier in the program planning on staying in Florida, south Florida when Gulfstream Park west resumes, their schedule after the championship meet. Scott. Thank goodness for Wikipedia. Because I mentioned earlier that you're a native of Belleville, Illinois. Well, I spent some time researching Belleville, Illinois and realized that the population is roughly forty one thousand persons. It's located just across the Mississippi River from Saint Louis, the sister city to Paderborn Germany, and I'm gonna -ssume that the the German American population in in Belleville is quite significant is that true. Oh, yes. I think taking them for. A number of years. You know, the other thing I read. German chef there and things like that. Yeah. Yeah. It was once known as the may still be the stove capital of the world. Is that right? What was that? That's what I said that the stove capital of the world is what according to Wikipedia is one of the things. Oh. How about this one for you the first brewery in Illinois was established in Belleville and in eighteen sixty eight and I'm going to butcher the name Gustaf gala? It's founded the candy company that is now known as jelly belly about that. That's true. Yeah. I do know something about that. In the beer. Yes. I did. W bunch of German people if they started a brewery, it's for sure. Beer and jelly bellies. How can that be bad? Scott. Great. They just moved over the Saint Louis to in is Bush now. That's right too. Yeah. Just across the river. So what's the future? Hold for Scott Becker, one of the plants moving forward, Scott. Like, I said, I'll keep string horses in Sokoto all summer and then the other half down in Florida and. Comes about in any of your to your olds looking looking promising. Are you excited about the crop? You have. Well, you know, is there just two year old in January? But I did. Two little like yelping on for a couple of weeks at the track. And I like the way a few of them go will. We'll see we'll see when we get a work in about at least a half mile, or so are you the kind of guy that brings them along slowly? And and or are you somebody that that likes to have fired up to go first time out? You know what? I've done different ways. Just depends on some are just ready to go. And I think some no matter what you do what we need that first race experience. I don't know why. But it just seems like. Second third start. You know, what you got? Yeah. Well, that's the next question. I was gonna ask you Scott is when when you start working with those young horses at what point do you? Do you start to find out if they can really run or not? Well, would you get I try to get in from good company and get a matched up right for one. I really think you've gotta work a little farther. You know, a lot of horse could work to three h half mile. I think Joe really further deal. You can really tell if you got something or not. Yeah. He's trainer Scott Becker. And he's done a tremendous job with his operation today t's continuing to work with those young horses and continuing develop them for his big owner Bill starts, and of course, all those individuals that want to get in touch with Scott, maybe get them a horse or two they can do that. And reach out to him. He'll be down at Gulfstream Park this winter, and he'll be back in Illinois. I'm sure as well, Scott really appreciate the visit. My friend has been a lot of fun to have you on trainer talk with us here tonight and all the best moving forward and good luck done at Gulfstream. All right. Thanks, guys. Appreciate the opportunity to talk with. All right. Thanks. Got Scott Becker here on trainer talk presented by phasing Tipton and don't forget if you missed any portion of that show just head back to our website horse racing radio dot net. And check out the podcast at your leisure. And you can also get more updates and information on everything that we do here on the network by following us on social media horse racing radio network on Facebook and at H R N on Twitter. I do love that story that he told you about maggie's was maggie's forget her name Nagy's Baggies. Maggie's something. Yeah. Gosh, I meant to write that name down to that horse that he said was his greatest training feet. And it certainly was I mean horse that bows and not supposed to come back and all of a sudden show signs that is you said wants to be back at the racetrack those horses are so cool. Yeah. No, there's there's nothing nothing like it. I mean, you get a horse like that. And you really appreciate thoroughbreds. And how tough they are. And how much they're bred to run. You know, we sometimes take that for granted. But that's what they're bred to do. And they wanted to did you ever have one in your twenty year career that maybe looked like there was no shot of getting back to the races. And all of a sudden here, they come. Well. I had a I had a couple of them. But the one that I always think about a horse called Vallejo. And I was in bed one night. It was like ten o'clock or something Victoria BAC called me. He was Mel from the Alice show. I remember sure. So he he had owned up full brother to this horse. And he goes joke. I wanna claim horse tomorrow said, okay? Vic who do you want? You know what I'm like half asleep? I probably went to bed like at nine o'clock horse trainer diamond. And vaughn. I put the money in the office today. Just go over and claim him. I wanna okay fine. So I watched him jog over. And he looked great, but he had big old boots on you can see the legs or anything. So dropped slip. Take the boots off right before the race. And he's got a big old boat and not not looking good. You know? So we got him, of course. And and he I don't know if you won that day, but he ran a good race. I think he might have finished third and getting back to the barn. And he was a mess. And I went six races in a row from the vet actually told me he would he would consider putting him down because he was that about and then like three months later random at Delmar knee went on a six race winnings. Three for is all about. Yeah. He would he would cough all to like, he smokes expects. He was best. But game is come. I loved him. Great story. And so many great stories that we've been able to bring your way here on trainer talk over the years. Really? Appreciate everyone being with us. Your tonight. Don't forget check out the podcast and the podcast of all of our programs, including jock talk from last night. 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