"The Roy Halladay Story" Producers Brian Rivera and Mike Farrell on Halladay's Wife, His Anxiety and Pitchers Using Painkillers
Baseball tonight the PODCAST. This is the baseball tonight. Podcast for Friday may twenty nine two thousand twenty producing from his home studio in Connecticut. Taylor Schwenk buster only Working for my own studio just north of New York City Tonight at seven PM. Espn will air e sixties. New Documentary on Roy. Halladay the hall of fame pitcher passed away in November of two thousand seventeen. And today we'll be talking with the CO directors of that piece about what they learned about Roy Halladay and why his widow Brandy holiday felt it was important to speak truthfully truthfully about Roy and my whole it does so start. A larger conversation about the drug. Use of pitchers is deal with the pain. Inherent in the work will also be taking todd rhythms weekly quiz. Be Talking about pirates home ballpark. Pnc before that today could be another big day in the negotiations between the players and Major League Baseball today. The players could forward a counter proposal to the owners. So although we saw Max Scherzer the other night that The stance could be no. We're not going to give anything back more than what we have on salaries. I've been told by sources that at least six owners want to shut down baseball for two thousand and twenty. We saw some more social media infighting on the players side on Thursday two days ago. Trevor Bauer send out a tweet saying that. Agent Scott Bores. Stay out of the negotiations yesterday. Kyle Osha client endorsed responded with this tweet trevor. I'm GonNa Chalk this went up to immaturity while your generation is talking. Mlb business while playing video games and complaining publicly. How the Union is doing us us out of touch ex ball. Players aren't happy standing by watching. You requisite was. Built Dower responded. Okay boomer anyone onto right kyle. Your time is a player has come and gone. You'RE NO LONGER. Part of the player group negotiating. Everyone appreciates your time and your service. But you don't speak on behalf of players anymore that time has come and gone for you. You're not privy to everything that's going on that inherently means. You're out of touch. It's not an insult and then low suggested the powers Gripe with. Boris might be. Because he's dating his agents. Rachel Luebbe bowery answered by calling low sexist and on and on it went here was something. Nice in the midst of all that Francis Romero. I hope I pronounced his first name right. Reports David Price will pay a thousand dollars each minor leaguer in the dodgers farm system. Not The guys in the forty man roster for the month of June If you know David prices history And his charitable giving by. It's not a surprise. It's something that he does in just a moment. We're going to talk with Brian. Rivera and Mike Farrell the CO directors about the special edition of Sixty about Roy Halladay. It's airing tonight at seven PM. Here's a trailer that he sixty produce about the Roy. Halladay piece everybody on their nowadays. Got One soon as it spins buyers began. What comes to mind when I say? The word Irvine unrealistic expectation. I don't think there's such a thing as perfect. There's few pitchers that you can think about that. You have this supreme respect four. He was the enemy of what a perfect pitcher should look like the greatest pitchers of his time absolutely stoic Warrior in the game. Nobody WANTS TO FACE Roy. The work ethic was the best. I've ever seen a man who is expected to be perfect. We're seen as perfect. I saw though was. Did you think he was an addict? Yes Roy Circuit. Victory was torment. His body was dependent on these medications to function. Adt Depression anxiety paranoia. Where I had a lot of demons. He was trying to work on all at the same time. What do you think he got free? No one of my last text were be careful line when why just now class up here and a play called day. People are not perfect. We all struggle hardware humility dedication. Imperfect people can still have perfect moment. Perfect hate that word. `perfect Mike Farrell Brian Rivera are co directors of the e sixty documentary imperfect about the late hall of Fame Pitcher. Roy halladay which airs tonight on. Espn at seven PM Eastern. Mike thanks for joining us. How you doing? I'm doing well this morning. Thank you Ryan. Thanks for joining us. Appreciate you having us. Buster is an excellent piece. It was a bracing pizza. I watched it yesterday and I I knew a lot of a lot about Roy Halladay but boy did I learned so much more especially about his career his life a time after baseball Mike just to start with. Why do you feel like brandy? Halladay chose to participate in this space. I think that her motivation to put it very simply to try to use. Roy's story to help others. We were very very sensitive to the fact that Roy is gone. We don't want to be dragging up bad memories or dirt or you know to be speaking ill of him. After he's gone it's vulnerability from Brandy with a purpose. She really wanted to make sure that. By showing the human side of Roy showing the fact that he struggled can show anyone out there that anyone can struggle even somebody that is as invincible seeming as Roy Halladay was and so really. The point is to destroy go viewers that it doesn't matter if you're you're making twenty million dollars a year and and pitching perfect games and no hitters in the playoffs or if you're just a regular person like Brian and I everyone can struggle with mental illness and addiction. And there's no shame there should be no shame in that struggle Brad. It really felt like in watching this piece. Almost an extension for her of the Hall of fame speech. She gave in Cooperstown last year. Yeah it was buster you know. That speech is something that Mike and I were kind of waiting for after we initially talked about this idea I started this conversation with Mike. You know a few weeks before the hall of fame induction happened and he and I kicked around some ideas about pursuing a story about Roy but we were really kind of stuck on this one question that we just couldn't quite answer for ourselves and this of course was was before. Brandy spoke at the hall of fame. Which was why would brandy Halladay and the rest of the holiday family where you want to do something like this with us And then we saw Randy speech at Roy's induction at Cooperstown and Mike Really sees the pond brandies line which we have in the trailer and as you know in the documentary about Roy would want people to know that even imperfect people are capable of perfect moments and that that line you know hit Mike particularly hard and he brought it to me and we started talking about it and from there we decided we felt like we had possibly a reason that Burundi had kind of the door into their lives. Open just wide enough. That there might be incentive for her to sit down and And just share her story and Roy Story With everyone else with baseball fans and with the sports community at large and and even people you know two point earlier who are not in the sports world you know have battled some of these things that Roy went through and their family went through with him. Mike sports illustrated published a piece last summer. Which suggested but didn't say definitively raise the possibility that he committed suicide and I in watching that hall of fame speech fell like brandy was answering that directly in it. Felt like that in your piece without knowing the absolute truth. Yeah it's a very sensitive subject matter certainly brandy in our interview. We did ask her about that. We didn't include included in the documentary. But we did ask her specifically that idea and she was very vehement very passionate in her. Denial that he did not commit suicide. We spoke to eye witnesses from the crash. John Bara reporters spoke with an eyewitness. Who said there was no doubt that he was trying to pull up at the end? And so you know with a situation like this. You're just never going to know for sure but from what brandy tells us. Roy was getting into a better place in his life in those final months and was was realizing that being normal is was. He was coaching his son's in baseball and was was sort of getting to a better spot with retirement. And so from from everyone. We talked to you from eye. Witnesses to Royce family. They all feel very strongly that was not the case. Of course we can never know for sure. But that's that's what they communicated to us in our conversations if I get to just add onto that and just reiterate the point that might just made you know we interviewed you know. Almost I want to stay close to fifteen people and we brought this up to some of Roy's closest friends outside of his family. We brought it up to each member of his family and everyone was unified in their totally that this was a tragic accident. And that Roy would not have done something like that Especially given the fact that he had kind of moot begin he had he had started to move beyond I think being kind of bogged down on a daily basis by a lot of these issues. He and he and Brandy were counseling together. Kind of for their marriage. He had been actively seeking treatment for his addiction and according to brandy he he kind of begun to turn a corner Right before this accident occurred so everyone we spoke to was you know kind of vehement in their Stance that that Roy you know was not the person or was not in a place where he would have you know intentionally harmed himself guys say in watching the piece the the the footage that you Used at the outset absolutely took my breath away as best you can you. Can you describe what it was? And how how you got that. That footage came from a cinematographer. Who had done some work with icon aircraft Leading up to Royce purchase of the a five. And you know the time Roy had become one of the kind of early spokespeople for the a five aircraft that icon had put out and you know I icon had decided to film a lot of Roy's kind of early experiences with the plane whether it was going through played safety training the plane kind of for the first time and subsequent training sessions that he had in addition to being there when Roy Saul his plane which was manufactured specifically for him for the very first time. And so this this footage came to our attention in kind of a roundabout way Kind of a serendipitous way. I was actually shooting another feature for sixty in in late June of two thousand and nineteen and I happened to be shooting with the same crew They'll crew that had shot that footage of Roy and after we wrapped the shoot. This was all unknown to me at the time when we began to shoot and when I hired this particular group and when we wrap our shoot back day for a story that was entirely unrelated to Roy The crew and myself went to lunch and began talking and somehow and I this. Is You know a key keyboard of the story. Although I can't remember somehow Roy Halladay came up and these shooters told me. They had been the ones who had spent time with Roy at icon and had actually flown with him and shot him flying the plane For several months and that this footage was something that they had had and that they had owned. And obviously icon. You know in the wake of the crash There was of course everybody can understand a greater sensitivity about putting that footage out in any kind of promotional use so it was shelf and it sat on their shelf for From October of two thousand. Seventeen until you know late summer when we began a conversation about trying to acquire it from them so you know it was a long process to get it from them. They had a lot of concerns about the way we were going to use it as you can imagine. Buster it It was something that we did not acquire officially Until very recently Given all of the concerns surrounding but We Are you know thrilled to have it as a part of this project. We feel it makes the project. A more complete picture approve. Roy was given his interest in aviation. And you know. We're hoping that everyone else who saw who the documentary tonight. Everyone else who watches the documentary tonight? We'll have the same reaction that you did and alternate to Mike. If he wants to add anything while I was just going to jump in real quick and say that I I gotTa Tell. You just having known Roy know a little bit and got an just as reporter to a player kind of broke my heart watching it And why it was so striking. Mike. What do you remember about the first time that you saw? It took my breath away very similar in fashion to to you buster. It's it's very jarring to to watch it with the benefit of hindsight and knowing what happened It's it's chilling. I mean when I watched it down for the very first time when we got some screener copies of the footage to review the the moment that made the hair on the back of my next ended up was when Roy sat in the plane for the first time was smiling like a kid in a candy store and of all the words in the English language to utter he said perfect and at that point I it was just like my spine tingle than it was It was crazy. But that's how he felt about the plane. He was so excited to get it and you could see that. He's just in awe in that scene of of the aircraft and aviation has Brian said was something he was passionate about in loved his entire life. So it's equal parts eerie shocking heartbreaking. It's all of those things but it does show you know his his love for flying in real time on curious about what each of you learned about him. That surprised us. You went through the project. Mike Start with you for me. It was it was brandy talking about Roy. Anxiety and Roy's fear of failure Roy's incessant desire to please others and to not let people down. She spoke about that over and over again in our interview. And I mean that just that description just seems so at odds with the image of him that we have on the mound which is disliked stone cold dominant pitcher that showed such little emotion noted for his stoicism almost as much as his work ethic. And you know to hear that that's what he was really like behind closed doors was very surprising to me. But you know there's a lot of people whether it'd be Major League pitchers or just in everyday life that that put on a form of a mask on a daily basis and project one personality when another one might you know live beneath the surface and that again just speaks to. Our hope is with this does documentary. Is that if somebody may be watching this and and can help shed the shame and the feeling the need to project strength when maybe you know. Anxiety is is below then. I think that the film serves its purpose But that was the most surprising thing to me was hearing just how how scared and anxious. He was at times throughout his career throughout his life and various situations whether it be pitching in front of forty five thousand people or going to a small cocktail party. You Know Ryan you know we. We really got to find out how much of a sense of humor Roy. Halladay had and I don't think that that's something that that anybody would have ever thought about or even really known about unless you really really really paid attention Particularly to twitter feed after he passed away Which is still up and You know again. I'm not sure how many people actually spent time poking through his twitter feed while he was alive but in going back through it now You know I would encourage anybody who you know is a fan of Roy Halladay or ended Washington stock to to just poke through Because the guy really was funny And you know one one particular thing that stands out is an you can find this on Youtube He Roy was inducted into the Colorado Sports Hall of fame in two thousand fifteen and he gave an induction speech that again. I think surprised a lot of people because it was actually funny. And it's on you to we feature it at the end of the documentary. Buster as you know having watched and You know Roy till the few kind of stories and take some shots at himself you know very self deprecating very humble But also funny and his family talk about that Brandy talked about that and it's evident If you're paying close attention to the these kind of little areas in his life where you can get a little glimpse into it. I mentioned the the hall of Fame Induction Speech being one but also you know his twitter feed and even in some of the some of the interviews that he did. I think people kind of missed that part of him along the way so that was something that struck me and I hope that that's something that people get a little taste of. Maybe at the end of the documentary. It's funny that the sense of humor really came out when you're looking at the raw interview clips and it's it's those moments in between filming or before. The interview begins where you really saw. Roy's sense of humor shine. I mean I think he had you felt maybe a sense of obligation to kind of turn on the the baseball player persona when the cameras were rolling but when we look at the interview tapes and even the brief glimpses of moments before enduring takes is when that sense of humor. Release Sean through. Which was interesting for me to see a hundred percent. I worked on a number of sixty pieces and there is alternate heartbreak process because of stuff to borrow your phrase brand that winds up on the cutting room floor For each. GimMe something that you're like. Oh I wish we could have included that for me. I I mentioned this to you as we came on. I actually woke up this morning very early. I've woken up every morning during the editing process of this piece just unable to sleep thinking about things and I was. GonNa text this the Mike and I didn't but Here now I really miss An opening to our second segment documentary which Mike Bill With an interview clip that you did from two thousand and three with Roy after he had kind of come back after being sent down to the minors and in that interview clip. There are a number of technical issues. Befalling the production lights are going out. Cell phones are going off and it happens throughout the course of the entire fifteen minute interview and Roy graciously but also with a sense of humor. Which again is evident kind of inbetween? The moments and the answers is very playful and very understanding and I think that scene that might build up him which was going to be a part of our second segment of his documentary really illustrated that point earlier in the story than than we might get to it now but It's something that I I do miss and I wish we had more time. We we certainly would have gotten it in for me. Is the story line with his son. Brayden we actually had a very talented associate producer on our show. Scott Secorski put together a separate feature on bread and I went to Penn State University couple months ago and spend a few days with Brayden there. He's a freshman pitcher at Penn state and just such a likable nice down to Earth Kid. He just looks like Roy in so many ways not only physically but in his mechanics delivery. There's sort of a kind of warm but eerie nature to the images that we captured him pitching and I think a of ways in talking to breed. And you know he's he's taken lessons from from Roy from both his successes and his struggles and tried to incorporate those into his own journey as he pursues pitching as potentially a career for himself and I find that choice interesting in its own right as he saw firsthand the mental and physical strain that it put on his father so we were able to get a separate feature done on brandon with the stuff that we captured at Penn state to give him time to kind of show his relationship with his father. A little bit more so that is going to get out there in some capacity but it would have been fulfilling to have that weaved into our narrative a little bit more in the documentary presentation. Brian when I said now with you I mentioned to you as you were giving me some of the background that you guys had dug out on this that when I first saw the Toxicology report after the crash. I was kind of like that doesn't surprise me because in my time covering baseball. I've seen a Lotta pitchers and heard a lot about pitchers going into retirement with pill problems with pharmaceutical problems. Because of all the pain management that they do during their careers especially the end of their careers because they pitch and pain and you guys note that Roy's physical problems really started with a back issue and then it expanded and then he began to use pharmaceuticals on a regular basis. And I. I wouldn't at all be surprised brandy made reference to the idea of you know. Hopefully this help someone. I think there will be former pitchers. You're going to hear about former pitchers their struggles with painkillers. After watching this and in fact when I was doing the broadcast on Are from the Games from South Korea this morning cow Peterson. Our our colleague unity. Spn when I mentioned that he said. Yeah in two thousand and one You know I started taking Iden And so I really feel like that you're going to have A. You're going to reach a lot of people in the game with By Sharing Roy's experience and his issues with those. I hope you're right buster. I think if that if that was the outcome of this documentary it would far exceed even our our hopes For what we were kind of intending for it to achieve That's a that's another conversation that we never had going into the production of this documentary. But it's it's one that develops particularly when you and I started talking and I think it's it's a a really interesting one to have you know brandy talks about Roy not taking prescription painkillers to get high but taking them because he needed them to function to do his job as a pitcher. And Todd's lucky who has written a book On Roy Halladay has written. Halliday's biography is in our piece featured in our piece we did an interview with him and he talks about the pressure that Roy felt as the phillies twenty million dollars a year. Ace to live up to and deliver you know a third live up to the expectations of the fans apprehend that the organization may have had for him and deliver the fans. You know a third consecutive trip to the world series and so because of the physicality that I think a lot of fans the physicality of pitching that. I think a lot of fans take for granted because as we've talked about you know it's it's a non contact sport and we take you know the movement of one's arm for granted because it's kind of something we all can. Do you know. Mike has catch with his son. You have a catch with yours. We've all had catches and throw a baseball with our friends with our dads and it's just something you take for granted But you know if you think about it once you come in from the catch you know thirty minutes later. Your arm is sore. And you've maybe been throwing a ball twenty or thirty miles an hour. One hundred miles an hour For to get twenty seven. Major League outs so I think you know if if that conversation started out of this it would it would wildly exceed our hopes for you know what we can achieve By getting this message out there and shining light on on this issue kind of inadvertently in my time covering baseball like the mantra. For starting pitchers you take the ball. He jury responsibility. Take the ball. Every fifth day when I was covering the Yankees there was a period of time on any petted has had discomfort in his elbow and I remember talking. Roger Clements where you tend. You know Andy's got to learn how to pitch with pain. That's part of the game. That's part of what we do and I think that For some of them the use of pharmaceuticals as part of that might. Yeah and I remember you saying in the interview buster that you had a doctor at one time. Tell you that every time. A major league pitcher throws a PICCI's effectively dislocating his shoulder every single time. And when you think about it in that context I mean it it seems had there will be an inevitability that pain would be a constant in the the lives of pitchers especially as they get later in their careers and yeah. I just think that it's sports. Fans like we're wired to think of painkillers and playing through pain for like sports. More like football or me growing up in Canada certainly is associated with hockey. These sort of contact sports that are more violent nature that collisions are part of the everyday ongoing of the sport. But when you when you actually stop and think about what. A person is doing to their body while pitching. It makes total sense that that painkillers would also be an issue in that fraternity. Great job. This guys. Thanks for taking the time to talk about it shortly. Thing Buster having on thanks very much rate him is a TV executive or weekly cuisine. Doors working seated on ballfields all across America all around the world his website titled Dot Com. Todd as we bring you in last night he had even more out in the open about the negotiations going on between the players and the owners accept. This was player on player. Crime twitter back and forth between Kyle Loesch and Trevor Bauer. I I did Michael K show yesterday and I told him that I I was embarrassed. Watching this like watching. This is beginning to feel like to second cousins at a memorial service arguing loudly in the back pews and Rindge as you hear it like every time somebody talks about money allowed in the current context. It feels totally inappropriate. And I think it's going to damage all of them. Buster you're saying these words and I am literally just stately sitting here shaking my head and I got my head in my hand cringing. Because you're absolutely right I'm GONNA come at it from a little bit. Different perspective You know I've worked in baseball in my lane a little bit of a different thing admittedly but on the business side for thirty years and I have relationships with people in the Commissioner's office would people with the PA with licenses. And I think that all of this is governed. Navigating successfully is is a product. I believe of discretion. Bite your tongue. No one to talk no when not to talk. Hold things incompetence and for goodness sake just before you should apply to everything as it relates to social media. Think twice hit send once I mean. It is just horrible to watch this play out. Yeah and I. When I saw the in particular those tweets be Carl Cut Carlos by the way. He's a great guy. I don't Know Trevor. Bowers well as you know Carlos but I know Carlos you good guy but when I saw the tweets back and forth like good God can just get his phone number and call them directly taught. Yeah it's probably pretty easy to do and listen. Trevor Bauer has tation for as a guy who was a bit of a free spirit and that is a a refreshing thing and good on him. You know But at this particular moment time as a world as a country is a society and knowing that the window of opportunity weather this season was going to get played truncated former not again. I don't want to debate the merits of that. I don't want to get into money. Millionaires billionaires this whole discussion always comes into play but just bite your tongue. Don't hit send and I will get off my soapbox Before you get off it I do WanNa hear about your views on. Pnc Park which is one of my favorites You know I because Camden yards close to my heart. That's always number one for me. I love the Ballpark in San Francisco. Pittsburgh would be number three remained. What about for you? Well we get onto a much nicer thing to talk about. Were no question buster. I believe that it's quite possibly baseball's most beautiful ballpark is that possible yes is ending a PNC park and the first thing you do if you were to let be lead into PNC park of your eyes closed and said okay. Open your eyes. You see this what I always turned a business view of downtown. Pittsburgh and those bridges and the angles of the buildings. Your architecture is just startlingly interesting. And they're things that I've gone down that I love about the NC Park. I love the scale of it is to debts. It is modest. There's always seem like a ballpark. That fits the size of its bird which is not a huge metropolis. It just seems right As far as the ballpark itself I love the materials there. That's local limestone exterior and area behind home plate. I love the colors the blues steal. It just seems really really comparable there. It's built on a very modest footprint setting the views the texters colors of the stadium. All of it. You know let's face it you and I've talked about this many times in the path offer. We are old enough to remember when the pirates were uninjured powerhouse participating in World Series Winning Divisions Etcetera Etcetera. Etcetera always said that that Ballpark as well received as it is would get more of a halo effect if the pirates were good at all and they haven't been you know with rare exception for a long time. I love the tribute. That's built into the Ballpark to Roberto. Clementi right field. If you can explain that is you're the expert. I haven't been there in a while but I know you know you've got the clemente stats. You've got the bridge out there. You've the wall is twenty one feet high. Yeah Yeah there you go and and I mean you know you talk about Clemente of course played his career at Forbes field which is not anywhere near there but three rivers right near there the bridge the Clemente Bridge approaching. Pnc Park as a pedestrian from downtown Pittsburgh across the river on the Clemente Bridge. You get a sense of the history and the pirates do the history so so well and I know that's ebbed and flowed over the years they You had had celebrated the Negro Leagues Rich history I will give a quick shot out This point to To Shawn Gibson who I know who is the descendant of Josh Gibson runs the Josh Gibson Foundation out there so much so much history and what an amazing like you. I would put it right up there at the top my list. We're GONNA be talking about this lot. I don't know how you compare. Pnc Park to a fenway or Wrigley to name two of the older ones. We talked about Dodger Stadium You know again different flavors. We're talking the same language. Pnc's a Jim. It really is on the other hand. Three rivers absolutely nothing stands out about it to me. My went there other than I I mentioned to you last week. About jogging and different ballparks. That was one of the Ballpark's jogging after games and it was perfectly audible and nice and easy to run in. That's for sure. You Buster you talking about. Close Your eyes and be put into three Rivers Stadium and say am I in Cincinnati and I still Adelphia right call. Letters of the colors of the seeds might vary but other than that not a whole lot to think about. I am all of a sudden calling being at Atta game at three rivers in April of Nineteen eighty-seven. I can tell you exactly when it was. It was empty and somebody had say a fly ball. I'm sitting with my friends in the upper deck. Roughly behind home plate first row and this ball comes and these two US guys get right in our grill and take the foul ball away from us. I mean that's my now so my memory of three Rivers Stadium. Buster not good. I'd say in the ballpark before the you made reference to at Forbes field in in a weird sort of way the Ford field is like the mayflower of all the modern ballparks because of course Forbes field was the favourite of Larry Lucchino went to work for the Baltimore Orioles and he was inspired by Ford Field. They built camden yards and as we talked about a few weeks ago with January Smith. That was the inspiration for For ballparks elsewhere when he got him Forbes Field Yeah I mean obviously it predates us by by enough years that the you and I never would have been there. You look at pictures of this place and it was just exquisitely dishonest. The architectural details are stunning the setting in the Oakland neighborhood and buster. I cannot help but think I think both you and Taylor notes not talking about. There's this iconic shot of the game of the seventh game of the nineteen sixty world series taken from top that cathedral of learning that big skyscraper that that tower they're looking down on Forbes field and it is just striking this moment in time all of the get past the history part the setting all of the trees just looks like a beautiful beautiful ballpark. I know that there are pieces of it. That are still in existence there Including a section of the outfield wall where Bill Mazeroski is home run cleared to win the nineteen sixty world series? I'm pretty sure played us there to someday when we're allowed to leave the house. We gotta do a Ballpark a road trip. Oh that would be fun tod. Yeah I absolu- and I actually you know as you said that. I'm like two or three places in the area other historical sites that I wanna see so you and I are going to talk about that that we have established at three rivers. Definitely the ugly stepchild of the three ballparks. The pirates of made famous all right. Let's get to this week's quiz all right guys here. We go wouldn't stay in the National League which one of these teams has appeared in the most National League Championship series the pirates the dodgers the braids or the cardinals most appearances in the NFL CS. Parral others braves cardinals. While tell you want to give it a shot I will go with the cardinals on this one and the cardinals have certainly made the world series appearances. But I'M GONNA go with a team that tortured me at times going the National League Championship series. And that would be my childhood favorite team. The dodgers Taylor. You are victor this week. I'm appearances job Taylor and buster. You were closed because the dodgers have appeared in thirteen lot in recent times. So Taylor good job my friend. Wow Yeah I thought it was some sort of baseball savant but I guess not. I guess I'm the PODCAST. It's kind of interesting because you know I alluded to it earlier and and it had nothing to do with the With the correctness of this question but the pirates of appeared in nine and LCS. When you think about you know let's face it. We all know that the event You know the NRCS dates back to nineteen sixty nine and the pirates. Of course were this powerhouse franchise And then all of a sudden you know the the wall at a certain point that they appeared in they have appeared in nine and it will see us along the way and I remember Jack Block that I've joyfully talking about. Is You whatever. I'm not going to get into it as a dodger. Very bitter and a very bitter for losing again all right. Todd I appreciate it right guys. Thanks so much. The businesses around ballparks. All around America have gone dormant during this time without baseball like Wrigley. Ville dogs is peace was generated by sportscenter. The tables are the we are open for business. 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So he writes in. It feels like fans. Are The only child stuck in the middle of a Nazi divorce where neither parent players. Our owners want us. What do fans due to voice? How we feel Boycott Games and twenty twenty one. Do we all become. Nba Fans Premier League. Lacrosse sounds like it's GonNa go off without a hitch the summer. What do you think Buster Jacob what you just suggested is voiced by players by agents by people a management side? They cringe that there is going to be a serious backlash from fans. Much in the way was act much in the way there was after the ninety four ninety five players strike a little bit of follow up to that Ben Hedge Hegi Hamanaka. I'm on a roll here today at big head. Benny Thirteen rates in. Mlb Media and fan say they want players to be more open and have less robotic answers. Why does it seem when players do open up and speak? Their feelings sees appointing to Blake. Snell specifically they get crucified. By those vary media members. No wonder no one talks and I think it's with this with Blake. Snell situation this and then a travels and oranges. Yeah yeah apples and oranges wanting to give an interview after the game or talking to microphone during the game and on the other hand the current situation during a pandemic to talk about money absolutely last one from our pal Aaron at a San Diego rates in what are the disagreements happening in terms of safety all we hear. All you're hearing is that they disagree but it seems to me like this is only an attempt to cover for money disputes. If there are any specifics I'd love to hear them. Aaron generally speaking what I've heard is the players want more testing but let's face it The there are disagreements and they might even be major disagreements over safety. The bigger disagreements are over money. There's not going to be baseball in two thousand twenty if they cannot settle those financial disagreements. Yeesh all right well. Premier Leagues Back June seventeenth. So they're taught never in everyone enjoy your weekend. That's it for today. Thanks to Brian Mike. Todd I don't mean to be. I always feel like doctor doom. I trump but I want to be honest. I WANNA to be real about things. I appreciate your honesty and I appreciate the fact that you've kind of been on this since the very beginning. I mean we were talking to mid March and you're you're kind of doom and gloom about it and now it's materialized so if anything it just proves your your foresight on on this particular subject and the part that I was right about that makes me cringe is that I was writing back in mid March. Don't fight publicly about this situation. We've been talking about that for weeks on the PODCAST. Anyway I have a great weekend. Everybody thanks for listening and stay safe. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight. Podcast if you're playing fantasy baseball toll forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout all podcasts at ESPN DOT com slash. 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