Ben Fred Friday October 25, 2019

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Scoops with Danny Mac on a Friday morning and that means Ben Fred Fridays Ben Frederickson at the Saint Louis Post dispatch stltoday.com and as always brought to you by Henderson and water cutty they say protecting a rights defending your freedom and that is one of their mottos they're available twenty four seven at the number drug crimes orders protection you name it and you can find it easily navigated on their website. Sto Criminal Defense Dot COM AH to helping individuals fight criminal charges in both Missouri and Illinois and that means state federal municipal courts also their Criminal Defense Practice Dub sto criminal defense dot com and you would have been taking care of let's jump you know what I WanNa do I want to change it up a little bit I'm just going to throw names at you from the cardinals. This assist people facing order protection probation violations sanctions by the nursing board kids get in trouble in college that may happen and off season he is there's been struggles with him with with the health with the shoulder that he does not scream guy that you offer at the top of your head sound good sounds good left-field Marcello sooner or later I think the cardinals will will offer him the qualifying offer for but I wouldn't go much further than that hopefully it'll be back bring him back we'll do it all over again now he might want a little more security if the cardinals came at him with a two year deal if he jumps on it maybe and that's that would probably be if I'm GonNa if I'm going to test the waters attend that's what it would be open arms but I imagine and I would instruct him if I was his agent go get your money go get the deal you can before you before you hit that dreaded thirty mark so hey marcel it didn't quite work out tailored totally Taylor Ben Frederickson that's why they wanted to jump on this right away I'm sorry buddy why you should have called me a long term deal to go more than more than two if you're going to do it and I think the cardinals what they could do here off from the queue oh if he turns it down okay he's got of what do they call it. The off season of accountability was last season was labeled and Marcel do it now I'm good with I'm good with what I'll always do and they couldn't get in touch them at half the you now have had a little over a week to kind of digest what the season was like and maybe where it goes forward with these guys but you just give me your thoughts what comes those that are listening to this probably have seen that happen before hopefully not but maybe you have and if you are in the middle of it thank Henderson Water County it's misdemeanors traffic while he wants to be a cardinal would love to be a car I don't think he wants to be a carnal so bad he'll take one year eighteen ish million now if he does and wants to bet on himself then you welcome back you got the draft pick if he leaves then let them go out and see what's what's going on in free agency and if he finds a deal that he likes and it's for for three years and been big bucks anyone hoped certainly a better second year was the first year but I but I think he's happy trails for Mr Ozone I just wonder with the CBA looming awesome for folks who are going how can they not offer this guy say look at the deal. They've had they've had two springs trainings or they weren't thrilled with how he showed up in the physical shape they've had an off season and you hope you get one good year out because that's really kind of what your banking on with with those who knows you're GonNa get maybe half of half good half bad that's certainly what we've seen so far in Saint Louis Ah you know good luck Marcel but if he's not loving what he finds and maybe talk about a modest two year deal that gets them a little more security than the qualifying offer Ben Frederickson never gotten hey that sounds a little personal that's a that's a generic copy there you're reading right no it's not than than what he got in that in that incentive laden deal that had last year but I wouldn't I wouldn't be shocked if he's willing to queue it up and do it over again on very similar terms and Adam has talked a lot this year even before he made his postseason starts about how he felt like you know one of the things that kind of motivates him is that he felt like he got paid for some production that he didn't provide and he's a pretty candid you know it's pretty rare to appear guy who talks about that hey looking for supper carpenter tough and and I don't know I mean the cardinals don't like to eat money and they certainly don't mind ended they've been brutal and without much signs of progress there have been some blips and some and some spikes and you know he's always you know I don't think he's he's done doc treatment but I think it's just it's complicated it would be the word that I pick if I have to sit down and and I don't know I got paid for for innings I didn't pitch so that's really what's weighing on his mind and then he shouldn't be you know to put off by coming back on a very similar deal and and as he calls the cardinals can feel good about bringing him back and saying hey we're gonNA start them at their base and hope things are better you go back to the numbers since last September when that hot streets to to to eat checked players who they gave the deals to that like a lifetime you know to to become a lifetime cardinal so maybe he gets the Dexter Fowler Bounce back proven otherwise better but still not good below average in terms of his production offensively this as a hitter but but it's hard to rely on him right now and if you're going to bring him back then I think you have to bring them back and say hey you're you're you're fighting for a spot on the bench until season and really third base and right field where the two positions that hurt this team the most offensively the cardinals didn't need to be a juggernaut offensively it'd they did everything else so well but they need to be okay offensively and their two biggest weak spots in terms of opiates were at third base and right field I think Dexter had when I throw at you and then it goes into what role does he play and that's Carlos Martinez don't treat him until you they get a fresh start somewhere else but that would probably have to me in the cardinals eating a significant amount of money that's left on that deal also sending him to a place where he'd be willing to waive the no trade there's some good moments I mean we saw with him climax leadoff spot and hold it down for a while but the way things ended it was it looked kind of similar to to the past this guy is a full no trade clause but I don't know if the cardinals couldn't find a way to to move him I see extra Palestinian hey you know I'm ready to a better year than his career worst last year in some ways kind of a weird year he had a career high amount of rb is an in home runs but when you look at the other things that he did well I think it'd be really hard for this team to bring back both of those guys Dan this is presented by Henderson and Water Cutty sto criminal defense dot com. I think a unique until you know what you have but but I wouldn't be shocked if he gets moved I think he's still when you look at his contract he's still making season when he when he wasn't able to to get going and eventually wound up in to get on the injured list and other ones too complicated of his appearances at closer got a little shaky there toward the end but with what he makes in his potential to either be a pretty good closer or basically a bargain rate for either a a decent starter or be a decent high leverage reliever which he was last season it didn't end well shopped him in the past and I don't think they are I don't think they are you know taking him off the off the board whatsoever in some ways a pretty decent starter then I think you put up with the headache and unless there's a deal that it makes your toes tangle the cardinals are open to the idea of moving Carlos Martinez they happen for awhile the short way to say this you know I think some explanation needed is what I would say I I didn't need to hear from Jeff Albert when the when the cardinals you know it's gotTa be gotta be a decent deal before you let that arm go hitting coach Jeff Albert Yeah Oh man I'm trying to think of they got from him out of the bullpen now he had this minor cleanup he wants to start again there's nothing wrong with saying hey let's come see what you have at spring training but he knows that it's I think they they are some ways tired of some of his headaches that he is caused over the time but I think this year you know I think they they were pleased with what Mike to hear from him soon is hey this is the plan moving forward and this is the identity of this offense and this is what I wanna see and that's complicated because swept from the CS I didn't need to hear him come out and say it's on him I didn't need to hear this him take the sore that's not what I was looking for but I think he can't do that and can't hold up that way and they're going to stick them in the bullpen and and I think they like what they get from him there so always an option for Carlos we moved somewhere but every guy has got different strengths but I do think the cardinals should be able to condense their philosophy and do something they can't say with ease and so far a lot of what we heard is complicated and a lot of it's really nebulous and I think when the players talk about it they all say different things which isn't a great sign and we've heard some pretty odd comments from some of the hitters down the stretch of the season things like Harrison Bainer getting upset that they weren't throwing fastballs things like Matt Carpenter saying you can't hit fastballs off speed you have to pick as the plan and here's what we learned this past season here's what was part of the plan this past season here's what wasn't and here's what we're going to really stress moving forward I think that's our our guys that hit soft contact guys had hit off speed pitching which got exposed by the cardinals for the cardinals in this by other teams the cardinals have been fans of they don't like on that long they they came they were willing to go there with stanton although you know they knew that it was depend on him the ninth pitcher that intrigues you as we get ready for the off season Oh sure I mean anthony were known intriguing although I'm kind of in the spot where I do expect I find it fascinating always to look at the free agency list that is out there and the thing I'm going to look at free agent so that's something that I'll need to see before I before I believe so I I I'm intrigued by him but I'm also intrigued in these other maybe the Tier Below Guan things like Paul Goldschmidt saying well they're not throwing it over in the middle of the plate of course they aren't to all three I think he needs to come forward to some degree and say in this off season and and some pitchers did it in regular season play are there any free agents out there whether be lineup one through eight or let's third Baseman I'm intrigued by guy like like Justin Turner if the dodgers go get rent on what happens to to him at third base I'm intrigued wanting to come and and there was probably some belief that he wouldn't so who knows we just haven't seen them beat out other teams for a long term deal with top level into that one a little bit more and and I haven't done much done much research on on him but is there kind of a stopgap you know that would be and I think he would I think you'd be more sure thing to the cardinals have now at third base Cabrera maybe I needed figuring out how to make decisions to protect your rights and it doesn't matter how big or small the case they're known for their communication with their clients worked for people in the region on the site there are frequently asked questions categories and a wealth of information to help guide you through the process are from Saint Louis they call it home their firm is the premier criminal defense firm 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I think to you have to find reliable backup that can play middle infield primarily shortstop to give the young some time off and that's considering that would be a shortstop and go to the website it's incredibly easy to navigate St L. Criminal Defense Dot Com check it out that's sto criminal defense dot com or call the very much I want to switch gears Mizzou sports and I'm GonNa Start with just the border war renewed with basketball with with Mizzou L. counts I don't think he would move to third but I you know a Dany Etcheveria would Jose glaciation be available so I would imagine going into spring training at least as we talk here in October that the idea on paper would be in spring training you're going to give him a lot of innings at shortstop and in a in a occasional capacity over an older bat that might be more tired I mean the guy played more than two thousand innings at shortstop in the minors L. D. Young to keep him somewhat fresh with the amount of innings Eddie played this past year yeah I mean clearly they don't exactly trust does there or else we would have seen everyone for the area code six four five forty four one hundred six four five forty four hundred Henderson Water Cutty full-service criminal defense firm dedicated you know I am just throwing some names out there right now I know Jordy Mercer I believe is a free agent to be as he now at a time where he's a backup but I just think he got to find a guide to spell I just think for for people who know what it's about then you don't it's hard to explain I mean this is one of the best rivalries and college sports this is a rivalry that in Kansas I I think it's great for the sport great for the fans of those two teams I think it's it's awesome and I don't I get kind of Corny when I talk about it them play more innings there played fewer innings short this season than he did the season before I'm curious I mean and maybe you can answer this played he didn't play more than seven hundred I mean did he play more than more than if you played almost two seventy at third base in the minors I just think the needs were greater and other spots you know whether that be in right field or certainly at third base and you know it's kind of pick your poison and they did not feel the Edmund can can do that because he played shortstop a ton in the minors he was that he didn't play one inning there this season I don't know if it was if they just felt they were putting too much on his plate but I think he could be that guy but it's a little concerning we didn't see him play there once at the major league level this year I was surprised too and see how he handles it if they don't go out and get themselves a bona fide backup that would be my guess would hit I I'd rather see him playing at short I probably sound like a hawk but I was talking with Tom Hard about it this week and he goes build a build a statue Jim Stock Right now and for gives Paul Diong blow from time to time and also moves around and plays that other places but let the let the bat play and plug him in I'd rather it's rather see him play often in different spots that I would see kind of an older veteran you know maybe doesn't have a bat filling in at shortstop from time to time because that guy tends to knock it used I mean he he played majority shortstop so he can do that then didn't stick him there in the majors and and the the glove develop as he kansas it is it's a great rivalry and I think if you would've told Mizzou fans when they left the big twelve that they would have gotten into the SEC and passed down from generation to generation from family member to family member I mean parents teach their kids to to hate Kansas and vice versa if they're in is is is not flying too high getting full of itself and then letting it all fall apart I I was incredibly disappointed with the offense it has never lost to Missouri in Mark Stoops Tenure I don't care what the record is they have confidence that against the Tigers and it's kind of ironic that berry goes fence bringing you Ben Fred Fridays on the grid iron terrible loss last weekend from Mizzou football against Vandy what did you see and what are your takeaways unforgivable games that fans want to see are not being played and here's a thing example of one that was coming back so I think it's great I can tell you from that exhibition and thousand seventeen that it's not gonNA skip a beat it will be like it always was it doesn't matter one iota whether or not it has big twelve conference implications it was always bigger than the from playing a coach that he had always beaten Derek Mason losing that game and now tries to get back on track by beating the coach that he hasn't in mark stoops if they were looking he did was opened everybody forget that of course you know man it this team challenge. Dan is sustaining success eight I think they would have said this is this is awesome and this is a no brainer and I'm just glad that the powers that be decided to use commonsense because it's it's fading line in the game because that group went out and beat old miss they had a gimpy quarterback and they were missing their stud defensive line there defensively battle of it and they couldn't so it was it was bad I mean they have twice now in Barrio Dems tenure received a top twenty five ranking and then spit it up the next game a loss off rich and I think it will approve to be as good as it ever was and maybe better now that maybe now that there's been some time to miss it. Sto Criminals Commander Built and they would you think they've learned not to do it against Kentucky or else they'll they'll have another double digit underdog a loss on their on their wall as well they have on the college game and we are seeing great rivalries die for things like politics and and and still silly strength of schedule debates and all these other bad reasons the process where they go out and put

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