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Microwave is discussed nail everybody to another episode of the working experience. Podcast IT'S MATTIE K. And I'm here today with an actor. I have known for a couple of years now. Scott Sutter Quest So just Little background I did a a short film called two summers ago. And Scott came in and played one of the office workers so Scott acting he has his day job. He does some real estate. And today we're GonNa talk about his journey acting pros and cons highs and lows. Funny stories that kind of stuff. So Scott Could you tell us how you got into acting? What drew you to it. And I'd always been interested in it. But you know I think you know hanging out and you know screwing off was more important to me and that kind of just had an epiphany if you will and you know decided you know. This is what you love. You know. You'd better get on the ball and start pursuing this or or it's going to pass you by so that's you know. So that's what I that's how I initially got back into it. I did a really cool movie. I'm GonNa plug it was called Angeles. Revenge was of Vignette that married Another full feature movie with C. Thomas Sowell That was called. Lazarus rising and I played a prodigy to Godfather type guy. Who was played by Bobby Kenny? Lot of people out there may know who he is and It was it was very cool. Very cool not to spoil the ending for anybody but You know pretty pretty decent Lauda Lauda cool effects and stunts and stuff like that so that was a good. I think good jump back into the industry and from there. I've just been kind of honing my skills learning what is required to keep your head above water if you will in this industry And just learning from people along the way you always. WanNa you know in this industry. You have to humble yourself. You always have to know you know. You don't know everything you always have to learn from people that have been in the industry for a long time because you know this is a Dog. Eat Dog world and you know if you don't know enough to be dangerous you know get chewed up and spit out. So just you know just progressing in. Kinda pushing forward is Israeli Here's really what you need to tend to do and I can elaborate on that if you'd like but that's of where I am now. So what what year was Angeles for bench? That was two thousand and two thousand fifteen. It's been a while now. Okay so how did you Haji land that role like can you speak to head shots reels casting agencies so there was no casting agency that was used and it which I'm in at the time I didn't really know enough to question it but you know the movie did have a pretty significant budget you know and like I said it was a little little fifteen twenty minute vignette. That married A larger film that had like I said I'm going to drop some names. That had Eric Robertson at C Thomas Howell in it. So you know it was a pretty big deal And I had gone to an audition. They were looking for Guys that had fighting experience and you know it was me and and maybe about five or six other guys that showed up kind of we will put through the ringer. You know you know. How do you fall? How do you take a punch you know? Show me what this looks like and When everybody was done as I was walking out the director of the movie called me into his office and he said you know what you know. You have the exact looks that. I'm looking for I want you to play. You know the the the main role to the guy. That's playing the godfather so just kinda got it sight unseen. I didn't even after audition for so you went into edition for different part. Yes and then you ended up getting the the role that you got which was more significant. Yes so how? Did you initially find out about the first audition I think I found out other Through New England film. Maybe yeah it definitely was New England's home because back at that time you know I wasn't You Know I. I didn't know about actress. Access at know about Backstage or any of those other large websites and again I was. I was non union. You know completely green. I didn't know what I was doing. and I just sent over some pictures. Not sure if I even had professional headshots done yet at that time can't remember what I said but But yet just based off my pictures alone. I was invited and you know for the fight scene and after the directorate saw me you know offered me the you know the more significant role which I'm forever grateful for so you're like initial approach when you came back in two thousand fifteen and said I'm going to get serious about this. You would go online. Look for roles things that fit your description and you send out headshots to those places those additions or whatever yes yes with everything is done now. Digitally you know most casting calls and Collins actually prefer that you do not bring up. Paper had shot in or a or a photograph. They want everything you know. Digitally just because it's cleaner that way but you know But back then yeah you know I. It's all a numbers game. You know just blast out your resume and you know digital headshot to as many projects as you can find that match your demographic and see who you know see who comes back you know. See who wants to bring you in. It's again you know it's a numbers game you know. If you're sending your information in and then there may be you know one hundred of the guys that look just like you. That are sending their information. And as well you really have to. It's all about a numbers game. If I send my resume and headshot out to fifty projects. Now if I send it out to fifty projects on back stage reactors access if I get one or two people that come back at me. And say hey. Will you audition you know? I'm a static. Really two hundred fifty. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah IT I. I guess it's like hunting for a job or anything else. Got To put out what I mean. I remember when I was looking for a job. The accepted wisdom was like send out one hundred resumes. And maybe five get back to you and maybe two of them are serious. I mean yeah well. It's funny 'cause you know in the digital age since he mentioned that it's like seems like there's so many more projects out there because he can look and basely shoot a movie on there. I found these days but which is great but it does. Kinda create a glut of projects that are not of the best quality or the they kinda. They're a little bit slip. Shod they come together so I it's nice. It opens up more opportunities but it it does kind of seem like you have to be careful about choosing your spots. Yeah Super Funny that you said that I actually have a very humorous. Had A story of exactly what you just mentioned If you have your time or absolutely See so I found project off of thing. They might have been again. Met Him in New England film. It might have been Boston casting calls and are not completely sure but a lot of these Lot of these platforms Anybody and everybody can can upload their movie and description of their movie and and request people to audition. There's no there's no budgetary requirements. Let's say Oh your movie has to be you know. Fifty thousand dollars a larger. You know what you can't use our platform so you know anybody can type anything and make their film sound like it is the next. No My Walberg movie which most of them are. So I. I'm not GonNa mention the name of the project but it was in Connecticut and the description looked perfect. Everything added up. A plot of the movie was was genius and I show up and it was the kids parents house and the whole entire house smelled like urine. It was it was. It was a complete horror house. There was two little dogs. That would not stop. Stop trying to help my leg. This kid was running around with like an iphone three or four filming it. He had a tripod attached to the IPHONE. One of the legs was broken on the Tripod. It was literally if there could have been a negative budget. This was the movie so go ahead. I'm sorry no it was it was just you know. He paid me in quarters. I I can't I can't make this stuff up. He'd literally paid me. Enrolls of rolled up quarters and And I was already there was an hour and a half drive so I was just like. Oh this was such a dismiss biggest bait and switch. I'd ever seen and I just followed through the you know there. Was you know some of the other actors were there and I just did it? And and the kid actually still reaches out to today's through Facebook Messenger and asked me if I WANNA participate in up new and upcoming projects and just completely ignore him altogether. But that that you know. I'm kind of happy that that happened. Just because now when I am unsure of the size of projects I always ask I will just come straight out and ask Sometimes you have to be a little bit more delicate than others. Sometimes you can't say hey. What is your project budget? Because you know sometimes I can offend people. I I usually get around that question by asking. How many crew members are on your project? Because you can you can typically find out what a project budget is by the monarch crew that are on it and estee say you know they tell me they have ten crew members. Oh that's good enough for me. That's a pretty significant sized independent project but if they say oh it's just you know me and we don't even have a boom operator then you may want to walk away from that opportunity in his favor. At least he did pay. You say I was able to get gas and go home. I mean is this. Bill does a short film or feature film who is a feature film a feature film and you only had one day of acting in it. Yes I had a boat a paragraph worth dialogue. He wanted me to come back. But I just did not come back Yeah it was a horrible experience. I He actually put the footage on IMDB. Which I'm a little angry about I've tried to call. Imdb and have them remove it. But I guess they have a policy of when somebody else adds it were Director adds a movie to your page. You cannot delete it as long as long as it is a legitimate project Yeah and It just makes it just makes me look bad. You know I always I keep forgetting I wanted off so bad but I don't Wanna I don't WanNa communicate with this guy. I just want to call them and be like dude. We please take it off you know. He's probably. He's probably in his early thirties if I had to guess where his parents there no they weren't Yeah I Well like I say at least you know you got paid. A lot of people have been stiffed on jobs. I mean when I worked as a grip there was one job. It just imploded. After about three days whenever got paid I was like you know it is early days. You have to take your shots. Have you ever done unpaid work as an actor? I have many times Yup Yup Yup. That's kind of an eye opener to some people that in the beginning in the beginning I think it is mandatory. You know people coming out not having you know you mentioned it in in the beginning of the call You know when you have absolutely no experience whatsoever you've never done anything before You have to do a lot of free work and even you know even some of the the much larger stuff you know the pay is in you know great You know this industry is all about Building Trust. And you don't get the large rolls until you can prove you know to you. Know the the big people that that you're able to handle the projects and that's you know one of the reasons why you know a lot of these you know More established actors. And you don't even have to be a doctor but more established actors keep continue to get recurring speaking roles in Syndicated you know network television or movies because they've already kind of broken that barrier and and that's one of the hardest things that I've found so far is getting that speaking role in network television or film. Yeah yeah that's a big fresh hold across but to go back to what you were saying. It's a lot of people I think tend to forget that it's a job and I think you know talents important. But there's a lot of talented people out there. I mean reliability like is this person going to be at this location at the time. We need them to be there. It's amazing how many people flake out on things like that. And it's just like okay. Well you know so if you're reliable you show up on time. You know you're supposed to do that. That's huge that's not agree. Definitely let me just in my experience. I worked with some people who were like. They're okay for a little while and then they kind of drift off. They don't really stick with it or they don't they don't show up when they're supposed to and blah blah blah and it's like. I don't care how talented you are. Not here then. It really doesn't matter I've seen this with grips electrics. I've seen it with You know when I worked on a television show New York. The lead actor got yelled at by the AD in front of everyone because he was laid from lunch. And the guy got so pissed off and this guy was well established. But he was like you know you're really screwing us here and this is my job and you know he was not shy about letting the guy I know he was holding everything up. Good to know. It's always the these that have the loudest voices. Yeah being aideed. That's an interesting position. I mean I couldn't do it. They make a ton of money but man is soon as productions not doing well. That's the first job to go from what I understand that the first person that got fired is the south. Yeah I'd never really worked on the whole production side of it. I did a little bit of work but yeah. That's a tough gag. I mean that's where the money's made on the production ad but it's not it's to me. It's not a lot of fun. It's SORTA or creatively satisfying guess. I'll put it that way So I guess you know you talked about That where the point where you WanNa be is a is a phrase used in the beginning so you're in sag like what are the benefits to being in. Sag as opposed to being nonunion question so the benefits being in Sag. You know first off is the money you know. The money is a little bit better Versus being a non union where you make make ten or eleven dollars an hour being a non union and then you're if you're Saggier make I think it's twenty three to twenty five an hour And then there are other little benefits and kind of stipends that that you get you know whether So so the Union is supposed to be there to you know support and protect the actor just as you know if you were in the electrical union or the or the Construction Union so You know if you you know if you get wet in Lsu around smoke if you work at night you know all of those things constitute a higher wage if they have to use your car or you know. There's there's hundreds of them so that would be one The biggest one you know for me you know. The money is an important to me. I I would do it for free if the opportunities came. But you know a lot of these speaking roles and these Hollywood movies that are filmed in Boston You're not allowed to audition for a speaking role unless urine. Sag You know when you see these casting calls that you know some of these larger Casting agencies around the Boston area quote out You know must be sag sat right in the oil. Say it right in the email And those are based on criteria. That's put into place you know by the contracts of the movie and the Union. You know sometimes it may be possible to get around that on the on the fly kind of situation. Where if you're already on set your Non Union They need somebody at the last minute. You know and they kinda pull you out of the crowd and say hey you. I need to say this You know that that could happen. And I've seen it happen handful of times to people. It almost happened to me once on the set of Detroit You know literally ran the wire my leg. They put the microphone on me You know and they gave me a couple of sentences to say but at the last minute they decided to pull it you know because they didn't want to go through the paperwork that was required to pay me for the wages into give me the you know the sag waiver and I was devastated. It was literally the talk of it was the talk of the production for the rest of the week between all the background actors. Did you hear what happens? Scott Yeah it was that was I was. I was crushed but But but that's it. Can you know it can happen just as just as fast as that but you know again you know in history a question being in the Union Does give you a high propensity to get those speaking roles. You get more opportunities to audition But then you know it can hurt you as well you know. There are a lot of non union productions and Massachusetts as well because we are in Massachusetts. You know and there's a lot of independent film here lot of student. Films Lotta Micro budget and low budget films Where people can't get SAG agreements or they don't WanNa get agreements because there's too much tape to go through And being inside you can hurt either as well. You know most of the commercials in the Boston area also nonunion so that kind of takes you out of that bucket as well so you have to take the good with the bad. I guess you know how important is it to you And you have to know what your goals are so I guess if someone were well how did how did you get into the union like what was the criteria so I got into the Union Through the movie Called Daddy's home two with Mark Wahlberg and will Farrell So I played so I didn't have any. I didn't have any taft. Hartley Waivers Attach Harley waivers the the Union W nine were seat that they give you onset. I didn't have any and then they had called me and asked me if I wanted to play a movie. Usher in the theater scene at the end of the movie. Worthy all breakout song and dance and and they said Yeah. We'll give you you know we'll give you. We'll give you a waiver for every day that you do that so I actually got seven waivers on that movie which was pretty cool and I had a great time working on it. You know the people that I met and got to hang out with you know the celebrities and you know you talk to them a little bit and really you know every time you do it you know you learn something new and different things and so that was. That was a very good time. So you gotTa Taft Hartley Waiver for Union movie and then that made you eligible for SAG. Yes you have to. You have to get three of them and Sometimes sometimes they're they're not easy to debt. You know I you know I I lucked out. There's a there's a kid onset that had never done anything in his entire life and he. He recession eligible. After after that movie. He didn't even realize what it was so funny. It's a funny business like that. It's you know I while I wouldn't chocolate all up to lock. I mean you got to leave yourself the opportunities you gotta put yourself out there. Are you know like anything else? Make your own luck so Yeah that's I think. A lot of people they well. I guess say this. Just because you're in SAG does not necessarily mean you're going to make your living acting Zachariah. You Yeah Yeah you couldn't be more correct Sag Sag gets you in the door to a lot of these auditions. Basically you're being. Sag is like having a great resume. But once you're in the audition you're standing in front of the casting director and you have to produce a compelling addition that you know that's that's what sets apart the men from the boys you know you and you know maybe they'll bring in ten other people that they like from their pictures or that you're chummy with the the casting director but if you If you can't perform you know out yeah yeah well I mean it's like Sag doesn't get you jobs. Deathly sack. Sag is the only sags the only union that does not Find York. Yup Ed's yeah it's Well I guess from you know I've heard from different actors. You know when I used to live in New York and up here like some wanted to join some didn't someone to join the grip and electric unions. Some didn't they would make more working on commercials so like if you're on law and order is grip you might get to fifty for the day if you work on commercial or music six hundred so you know union was more regular yet your benefits in all of that but again some people didn't like being kind of hamstrung as they sought sometimes by the union. So I guess I didn't realize the same might apply to SAG. Some people might say. Look I WANNA leave myself. Open a commercial work or independence or whatever and you know not joining. Sag would do that. I Guess Leagues Exactly I. I I know a handful of people that have probably been SAG eligible for for literally years. But because they are with. You know there with a good agency in Boston. That finds them regular work. They do basically they basically just do commercial work print work and I don't really ever see them on movie sets because they don't do any movie work you know they kind of just hold onto that non union label so they can continue to get facetime in commercials as to where they would be able to do that With the Union label. I remember a guy I worked on. independent feature which actually did pretty well Just to our listeners. I worked on many independent movies that I never saw again. They never got finished. Whatever so I think there were two one that actually got to see in a theater at one that I got to see on. They showed it on. Pbs Really Good Movie. And one of the actors was really excited one day because he'd gotten a burger king commercial at the time. I was sort of like. Why would you be excited about that? Well he told me later when we got to know each other a little better like that was going to pay for his year like he was good. This is national spot so I was like. Oh that's why you'd be so excited about a Burger King Commercial. I get it now so There's some people I've seen that. We both know Karen now. Kathy and Hart. Who's I've seen on her her like an uphill pack commercial? So you know I guess what I'm getting at is there's a lot of working actors out there. Well the vast majority I would say are working actors as opposed to your movie stars. Yes yes they get their as you say their commercial work or they might be background on sats and things like that and Yeah we mostly think about the mark Wahlberg Farrell's and all that but a lot of people out there just you know it's their thing it's what they do and and they're not going to be maybe movie stars but they can make a living doing that and they enjoy doing it. So more power to him. how'd you get into acting like what what made you think in two thousand seven like? Yeah I want to give this a shot so I'd always been interested in it and I didn't really know how to get into a you know really what to do and I was working at was working at a publishing company and the editor of the magazine Husband was a producer of a small production company in the Boston area and I guess he was filming a movie of a feature movie in needed a guy to play the older brother of a one of the principal roles the the main the main role of the movie and she asked me if I would be interested in grabbing lunch and kind of hearing the plot of the scripts and I said Yeah. You know So so I sat you know. We went to lunch sat down with him. He brought the kid so at this time I was older I was like twenty twenty four. I think I was In the kid was the kid who was supposed to Plymouth younger brother he was sixteen and we all have lunch and the second had sat down he literally looked like he could have been my identical twin brother and the director of the movie just looked at me and he resides. Let me tell you what it's all about you know you can Tell me if you're interested but you got the role you don't even have to audition Just based on on my look along and Yeah so he kind of told me what you know what it was all about and I and I love the concept and this was the literally the first thing I had ever done in my life and It was fun. I you know the the company that I was working for because it was you know because the editor was you know was destructors wife. I was able to take time off of work without any consequences and everybody was behind it. One hundred percent So upset I was sick. She was just like yeah. Go take off. You know the weeks that this is gonNA take the film and go have fun. Wow Sir yeah so is pretty cool it was a movie about it was actually filmed in. Lynn and it was a movie about Two kids that lived in kind of a broken home. You know mother was drug addicts. I was getting out of the gang life. My little brother was just getting into the gang life and I was trying to kind of steer him in the right direction. And then coincidentally I ended up getting killed in the end But it was. Yeah it was. It was a really good time and I really. I learned a lot from it. And that was my first kind of introduction into this incredible world of of expressing yourself through film. Yeah it is an interesting collection of people. I I mean I. I was a teacher for a long time and then I decided to become a grip. I was sick of teaching. It'd just such a different atmosphere. You know like being on sad with all these different people who are very creative but very hard working in professional at the same time yes exactly. I find that. That's an interesting mix. I think some people think it's fun to make movies and that's not exactly the word I would put to it like it can be a meal grind. You know like I'm sure you've done the twelve fourteen seventeen our days like it can get walk the twelve hour days. This is like the the minimum that I've seen on on the Hollywood movies. You know with with the big eight list actors. They can run anywhere from twelve to fifteen hours. I have done one sixteen hour day where I go. What is called Golden? Time where you make anything. After sixteen hours you make a full day's pay in one hour but the majority of of the other days are usually twelve hours. You know sometimes if you know some run a little less dependent on you know whether or you know couldn't get you know couldn't get whatever they needed to make the shot but but yeah it. It's definitely you know long hours. And it's always go Gogo. You know no wasting time. No No goofing off. You know every second in our show. Ming wasting money You know there's a lot of things that have to be rented lightings trainings. And all that good stuff. So they have to get their shots and you know as quick as possible so they can keep their bottom line. It's amazing how Film crews and actors and everything how it all works together like the really good ones. Everybody knows their job. I mean as a gripped I really didn't interact professionally with any of the other departments but as long as I did my specific to bring these stand in and set flag or whatever. It all worked. Everyone knows her job. And when everybody's doing their job at the same Time It's one well oiled machine. Yeah but I've had to tell people you know like it is. It can get very tedious. Like he can't get. There's a lot of waiting around a Lotta. You know that can be a lot of down time where you're like you know you set up a shot and you're you know the actors are waiting for the crew set at to set up the shot and all the lighting's done so the crew walks away now the actors around doing their thing so the crews kinda waiting you know and it can be a couple hours and then you're like okay. We're moving on like our everybody pile and let's go away at and so it is. It can't be a lot of waiting around but Yeah it just. You're around people with all that kind of really hard working ethic but it's also for some creative. I find it great. Mix of the two and a lot of those things like it's like you get a lot of creative types but it's a business like everybody who laughs understands that like you cannot be late like I don't care what you're doing the night before you cannot be late you gotta show up on time ready to go out and you got to be able to do that for twelve fourteen sixteen hours and as you say it. It really separates people who wanted from the people who don't so What would you? Somebody is a twenty two years old. You're looking to get into acting. What would what would you tell them what what maybe not to be a hard edge about it but like what would you tell him as a Lark you gotta be aware of reality Yeah so I would say first of all you know. I think just my own opinion. Is You know the earlier you start the better chance. You know you're going to have because it does take so long to build that network and those relationships and the people that you see in movies that have these big principal roles and it's the first time you've ever seen them in a movie and you wonder where they came from that was you know. That's ten to fifteen years in the making of them doing student films and independent films that you just never heard of before you know little web series is and stuff like that so people somebody just getting into the business. I would say you know one you know hone your craft and as as tightly as possible what? I mean by that. Take any take any project that will have you. You know a lot of student films. There are lot of student films in the Boston area Emerson college is a huge An Entertainment Related College. There's Boston college as well and These you know these institutions have departments that are specifically Designated to this type of thing so I would get into that you know They're not paid. Obviously but it will give you the experience that you need and you know the equipment that these people use you know. It's the same equipment that you know that you see on some of these. Larger movie sets. These big colleges do have the budget to buy the equipment so this will give you what you really need for. A real in a real is basically just a collection of Short short movie Short little stupid from movies that you've been in The can sure directors when you submit for something you know you know what you look like on film I would also you know so I would do that. You know trying to get into as much as possible by using New England film DOT COM DOT. Com is a great website to find independent films and smaller films. Sometimes you know you know you can even maybe try Craig's list There's a lot of riffraff on there but it doesn't hurt to look You know there are other websites casting calls. Boston and facebook is a great Facebook is a great way to find things as well When you join. All sorts of no casting enact in groups and people are always posting on their You know about the projects in in you know demographics that they may need for certain scenes You know so doing that. I would say get yourself registered with Case registered with you know the casting agencies low in the Boston area So when there are projects which all the time they send out emails you know saying. Oh we need. We need twenty two to thirty year. Old Man you know must be six foot. Two six three must have brown hair. And if that's you then you can submit for that in the nursery late. Your look They'll invite you in You know that's best case scenario but yeah you know. Start out our justin. I'll take what you can get no matter you know no matter what the project is just so you can build Just so you can build that experience and real. You know getting a real. I think in the Boston area is not as easy as as you may think it is because Mattie as you just stated you know a couple of minutes ago a lot of the projects in Massachusetts They don't get legs or you'll start something and the project will stall and it will never finish or you will finish it and it will just never finish. It will never finish the end of post production and you'll never see the movie again and it will just fall into the void of you know of a black hole so getting material for a real is essential. You know you know tours three movies that you know you've been in the real doesn't affect you know any real that's you know between Two and a a minute and a half to two minutes. is typically the standard And you know just You know some quick clips from you know from a couple of movies that you're Bendon that really highlight your abilities and what you can bring to the table. That is that nothing. Nothing can substitute a good real So you know getting that getting a resume getting some head shots. You don't have to go out and spend a lot of money on headshots. Headshots aren't As expensive as they used to be I remember back in the early. Two thousands headshots used to be seven eight hundred dollars. I remember you know they'd be tight. You know a couple of times I got burned on headshots. I'm from companies that were not as ethical as as I was hoping that there had been And I paid eight. Two thousand dollars for headshots. That looked like they were taking the dark. You know now. Yeah now Now you can get amazing headshots for two hundred and fifty bucks. Yeah literally literally amazing headshots. I'm GONNA plug on. He's a good buddy of mine. Peter Mockus he's out of Rhode Island. He's a fashion photographer. He does the best headshots or some of the headshots. No offense to any of the other photographers out there but Yeah he does some of the best ones you know. Some of the pictures that Our facebook that he took and He's he's to work with you. Let's just say that is so C- might say like first of all get yourself you gotta get into projects. Do whatever projects come up. Whatever student films and then number two and this is this is what probably a lot of people don't know going at is probably in the beginning. You want to say like look. I need this for my real. You WanNa make that clear like because as you say the project can just disappear in. You never hear from these people again. You might be wise to say I. I'd like that now or I'd like that because a lot of times people will advertise like copy of the movie. You know footage for your real and lunch. So that's your pay. Really is getting the footage. Yeah exactly and yeah when you don't have When you don't have anything to validate who you are that you know that real footage is is essential. You get to try to get it as quick as possible because that's really what that's really that's really what made you know again. That's what makes you stand out websites such as backstage fifty percent of projects on backstage will not even let you submit for the movie unless you have a real attached to attached to your profile. So you got a really Gathered that collateral is quick as possible. So you had do. You think it's worth like having like a friend film you doing a monologue or something like that. Yes I do It doesn't Yeah. It doesn't have to be you know. Having you know having a great real with a couple projects in there that were professionally. Filmed in a big movie is amazing but If you don't have that experience and you don't have If you don't have any of that just something that can show what you look like in real time Show your range of emotion That can be just as impactful to a director than than having a great real. If you have a great look and you recite monologues that That resonates with somebody. I suggest that you find I suggest that people find one monologue that resonates with them that they can connect to on an emotional level. Memorize it don't sway from it and keep reciting it until you can do backwards until memorized. So if you were to go into an audition and this has happened to me before You'll go into the audition with the sides and they'll have you read the sides and they'll say oh You know just by. By the way would you happen to have a monologue prepared And I never I never had in all. I didn't realize that that it was a good thing to happen So kind of the one that you choose you know kind of take it. That's your baby from one But yeah definitely definitely do that. And you can put that You know you can put that up as well you know even something as simple as a sleek shot which Asleep shot is when you. Kinda just stand in front of the camera and say you know Hi. My name is Scott Quist thank you for considering me. It's like five to ten seconds. You know it's it's not the best but if you if you have nothing else that can substitute having nothing at all and it will still give them an opportunity to see what you look like moving in talking what your voice sounds like and what. Your facial expression sound like So on and so forth Gotcha Gotcha. Well that's been great advice and I think anybody who wants to get into the acting game would do very well to listen to this episode. So thanks a lot Scott. That's a lot of good information. Good stories It's it's a you know I enjoy it. It's it is work that I really do love the creative process. It's it's definitely a family. You know so. Yeah all right well. Hey thanks a lot that was Scott Sutter quits. Talking about acting and we will be back with more episodes. Thank you so much. Thank you everyone for listening to this episode of the work in experience we'd like to thank our sponsors one circle media and the still believe APP. The only APP that delivers video proof of the tooth fairy and Santa by simply taking a picture. Download the APP at still believe dot. 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