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Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host Jerry Taft. This podcast is the full show from today's episode of undisputed from start to finish. They've got a busy slate. So Skip Shannon. Let's get to it. Good Horning welcomed undisputed is. Are you guys doing today? I'm with Phyllis and Shannon Sharpe and I'm ready to get this show going slower my journey. I am so ready to get going wait guilt. Vela's Shannon Sharpe. You've been in trouble all week and I believe you're going to be in more trouble starting right now. Hopefully after Sunday which will be one of the happiest days of my life. Weakest Stop This blasphemy one Goat James. That's what I want to have Shannon. You Defending Your Guy. All Week Good news for us we also have Eric Dickerson joining us later on in the show but you know what only appropriate that we start by talking about Michael Jordan and those bowls because it's hard to believe but we're going to see the end of the last dance. It concludes this Sunday and skip. You taste social media video to be released on Sunday afternoon in which you're gonNA great detail about two big one on one interviews. You did late in the bulls ninety eight season with GM Jerry Krause and head coach Phil Jackson author. Which you said Liu your mind so skip I wanna ask you your final takeaway from covering the Bulls in nine hundred ninety eight and that's the ginny in all my years in this business. I've never found myself in something so baffling so con- sounding so troubling and ultimately so mind blowing is what I found myself in the middle of in Nineteen Ninety eight as the columnist for the Chicago Tribune watching the last dance from the inside out. Big Sit down interviews in late March with Jerry Krause the GM and then in early May during the Charlotte playoff series. Big Sit down in Phil Jackson's office with the coach of the Bulls and what I heard from each of these two men whose relationship obviously had completely deteriorated was just difficult for me to process and I remind everybody I had just come to Chicago before that season straight from Dallas Texas where I'd written three books about the Dallas Cowboys. The second of those books predicted that Jerry Jones would soon sire Jimmy Johnson that was after their first super bowl. Obviously they won a second together. And then Jerry Fire Jimmy is. My Book. Predicted in the final chapter would happen. Everybody told me I was out of my mind then but I said No. This is predictable that blow up. I got this one. I I still can't get and Shannon. Here's the point that playoff run. I caught Michael after one game and I told him that. That sill was just openly saying we were all presuming. That have still got fired if his contract didn't get renewed and we knew that was going to happen because he had fallen completely. Apart that everybody presumed that Michael was going to go to and sill was openly saying to everybody including me in that big sit down interview that Michael had run out of gas in nineteen ninety eight and because of his loyalty to feel he was just going to flat out retire. Remember we're talking about the greatest player. Who Ever played in any team sport willing to walk away in the heart of his prime or at least at the end of his prime and missing his age. Thirty five thirty six thirty seven season by just sitting out which is what he ultimately as we know did. But when I asked Michael About Sills contention that that Michael would just up and retire Michael really coldly replied to me. That's feels opinion. And that was the first sign of lives and hope that I heard from Michael Jordan and it made me very happy because there was no reason for Michael to go to and as we all know. Jerry Krause had plucked Phil Jackson Out of obscurity. He was a coach for the Albany patrons. Argument is assistant coach. Then when Phil Kissed Up and buddied up to Jerry Krause. Jerry fell in love with Phil and finally replaced Doug Collins with Phil Jackson. Doug had coach Michael for three of his early years and yet once Phil got hold of the reins of the organization and they won their first championship. Silk completely turned on Jerry. Just duped him to get the job and began to mistreat just the way Michael. Scottie shamed and ridiculed little tiny the penguins. I call him Jerry Krause. So Jerry Krause was living in one or to get even with Phil we get that and he already had a handshake agreement with Tim's Loin from Iowa state to be the new coach the Bulls so I- publicly encouraged Michael to just forget about Phil. Forget about Tim Floyd. They called him. Paints Lloyd off the Rock Group. That was her sarcastic. Term for because fill-up employed and I thought Michael could then go to Jerry Krause and say hey look I realized the bridges burn between Jerry and Phil. I got it. But they'll never coexist again. So let's forget about Phil but don't give me Tim. Floyd or pink Floyd gives me a real coach bring back Doug Collins. Obviously Doug ultimately want with Michael for his last HURRAH YEARS. Thirty eight thirty nine years old in Washington give me Doug Collins back give me anybody who's a made man in the NBA is a head coach. Anybody with credibility stature and experience and I'll go forward why Michael wouldn't do that to this day haunts me because that was the move to be made and I believe Jerry reinsdorf would have compromised with that move. Keep Jerry Krause is legitim- bring in another coach. That Michael Signs off on not Tim Floyd but as we all know Michael stuck by his guns inexplicably which is why can't wait for maybe episode. Ten of the last dance. I want to hear what Michael says about this because I wrote to conclude my column in May and June that year. I said the worst sports thought I could ever think is Michael Jordan. Gone at age thirty five and still still coaching at fifty three. And as we all know Phil went right on it to go near it. Right onto the Lakers and wound up coaching. Shaq and Colby to three straight championships. And what did I always call fill? It everybody called him the master. I called him the spin master. I never trusted him. I never trusted his sort of spin. Golly holdover Michael Michael was very impressionable when it came to fill an believed. That seal talked or almost duped Michael into retiring at a loyalty to fill when he did not need to sill. Didn't retire film went on one three more championships in a row. Shaq and Kobe three beaten. La So I believe that Michael also got taken for a ride by the spin master as I call him an Indian. It was the most confounding and actually the saddest story I've ever covered. Well let me start with your before. I make my escape. The reason why he didn't to Jerry Krause because Jerry Reinsdorf with two people that he can bully because you know why they had more power within organization then him. So you can bully. Steve Kerr and Scotty Rail and some of those others. Because they're player. You are the best player so you have. You're able to to reign over them with your tenure with your plate but you notice she can never bully J. Krav every player that he basically said he wanted skip Envisat documented. Jerry. Crowd went and got somebody totally opposite. If Jerry Reinsdorf it like I said Jerry. Krause took a lot of criticism took a lot of heat but Jerry. Krause who just the she'll this Jerry Reinsdorf because he could make all this a moot point he could have say Jerry. You'RE GONNA stand down on this. We're going to keep this thing rolling until the wheels fall off but when Jerry Krause Jerry Reinsdorf and say this is what I WANNA do okay. You see what happens to it happened again. Rest his soul with a volume polian in Washington. You see when people have more power than you. You can't bully them that's why he couldn't really J. Crowds. He could like you said he could have but he knew what the answer were. Jerry Krause made it abundantly clear. He can go eighty two in with all of his layout gave about thirty and he's still not coming back. And if Michael Retired Michael earned the right to do whatever he wants to do so it will be moved boy so he was like. I'm not wasting my time because there might be a time later in life. I'm GONNA need that energy. I won't need that breath that I wasted J. Across and Jerry Reinsdorf. That's why he didn't do it. Skipped you know why he didn't do it because he couldn't believe them he couldn't put them in a corner like hello. It's about winning. So are you mean to tell me? He said winning. And if you don't WanNa wear get league in the way of moving. Don't do it there have now we do here. Look at the end of the first repeat. He said that he would exhausted. He was tired of the media. Barrage the constant barrage of cosmic criticism. And it started to you know. They started to say well. What happened with your father was a direct correlation of what transpired with Michael in his personal life. I don't believe that but because of criticism scale you mean me tough if the most mentally tough guy in the history of sports couldn't handle media Chris wow imagine what he would have to go through in the social media age today. Imagine what Lebron James. Here's constantly there was no debate. Show there was no twenty. Four Hour News Cycle on fourth in ninety eight. Ninety seven with Michael was in his heyday in him. Prime can you imagine the criticism of some of the thing that was reporting going gambling of the day about? What would that be the night? Outdoor the David Bore playoff game. The constant golfing. Can you imagine the criticism? Imagine a guy player now skipping basketball be Lebron James Kevin Durant Steph. Curry would be covered casino before championship. Game or EPA championship game ream. He got the name he was caught. Everybody wrote about it. Everybody was everywhere and Lapointe the criticism. The BERAR remember magic. Say of Y'all keep being the guy you're going to write him away from the game. Imagine what Lebron has been going through since. He was seventeen because of criticism. I just saying skill. The thing was agree with you on this. You and I agree you and I agree that Jerry Reinsdorf Jared Crouch should've let this thing out let all the gay run out of the car. It's it if it runs religion outside role in the middle of the season. Oh she puts it out in the middle of either but I don't believe he should have broken it up. I believe he should've let somebody else break it up. You normally air positive normally empire. They'll say you know what we're tired of lauding all this bath territory. You know what? Let's give it up normally some body from the outside convinced fixing over or within this case like the Roman empower if they'll with the INSKIP so when I look at agree believe Jerry Krause Jerry Reinsdorf to let it go but Michael Do? I believe Michael should've leaves boy going to Jerry Krause. John Gone Jerry door but I believe like you said with got it. They've never taught my they'd never tour. Michael joins contract so the likelihood of them Scotty contract and extending him when they never did that. Michael was not going to happen. Remember in the ducks. Michael says got new. Jay Across that contract Redo his contract so Michael having been with Jay across basically sits at his first year. Nineteen eighty-five if I'm not mistaken. Step Barat Thorn. He Knew Jerry. Krause brought with him back with Jerry. Krause got something in his hand skill. That was it if there was no turning back but I thought of all this yes killed. J. Across maybe you don't like him but I saw Jerry Reinsdorf jair given been portrayed very favourably in this documentary with you and I both know when you peel everything way. He was owners. How does the general manager have more control more in an organization then the owner Jerry? Reinsdorf just like he did in ninety eight when he brought peel back all that last day he said I'm bringing field back again. And not in or level land's Day five fifty our core. Well I'm breaking could've been the last day of I will do it on the okay. That's the end of the single goes back. Then he come back out and give you a another set. Maybe five Kim fifteen minutes Jay rise could have demanded of JAE crowd. Bring Peel back on call. Encore and we'll see this thing plays out but what. I'm going to take most from documentaries. Is that like I said I knew about the on court stuff but behind the scene the maniacal guy what he was willing to endure what he was willing to go through what he was willing to push his teammates to get to a level. That's what I'm most impressed with like. I said being quarantined for me to watch something other than you politics and so I've watched a lot of documentaries and so I knew Sam Cook could see just like you know Sam Cook and see but when you watch documentary you get an opportunity to see a different side of Sam. Cook that you like. I did not know exists. I did not know he had that type of relationship with Mohammed Ali. I did not know that he was in Miami that fights and he and Jim Brown I think if I'm not mistaken Mohammed Ali within a room. Together I didn't know that. So now you get an opportunity to see Michael Jordan off the court. Everybody saw him on the court specialty. You did you were covering day to day but you saw some of the things behind the scenes. I did not know I did not see that behind the scenes so that was great for me. To see is the show over. I have never heard one person talk along on undisputed in the history show. Is You just talk a whole lot of nothing? Let's get back to the first three peat and you said Oh he burned out. He couldn't take the media he baloney voice. Me When I show you agreed. I think it's my turn to talk. Now you agreed that it had to do with gambling. It was some kind of a suspension slash avis that he took off to play baseball. You agreed the first after the first couple of episodes. Yup that's what was going on your system issues about it. I'm real suspicious about it to this day. It made no sense to me. He caused himself to championships right there. So we miss those two missed a season in about three fourths of the next season and was not ready to play. Orlando obviously in the playoffs and the conference finals. And now we fast forward to Jerry REINSDORF and I I gotTa tell you I resent you calling the vote a bully. He is not a bully. He was simply the greatest leader slash motivator in the history of sports. Now one player who played with them has called him a bully. Now one player has said publicly. I hate him. I couldn't stand him. They all thought there was method to them madness all of his ridicule. Whatever held that he made some pay. It was all to make their weakness a strength and they all contributed down the stretch. And I told you yesterday I showed you that roster it was to quote the Great Lebron James. Top heavy as bleep. It was Scotty Pippin. Nothing but a raw robin to Batman and then a Rodman who barely was able to stay in bounce. Thanks to the guidance of Michael Jeffrey Jordan and after that it was just a bunch of guys that he turned into winners. He toughened all of them up. And when you say Oh Jerry Reinsdorf is the one guy. He couldn't bully Baloney. He couldn't believe him he just didn't try to use his power to power play if he had gone to public. If he'd come to me and said I need you to print this print that I went to Jerry Reinsdorf and I said Jerry pick any coach who is experienced in the NBA. Not Tim Floyd I will stay for two more years and we'll win two more championships if he had said that. That's a power-play I don't think Jerry. Reinsdorf KHUDA withstood the media beating. He would've taken under those conditions but Michael got thin. Golly he got Machiavelli and by by Phil Jackson Phil talked him into. We've gotTa do this together. We've to retire. We've got quit on them and quit together whole and still clear linear and then he goes to La and coach Shaq and Colby. Oh no still no no no. Don't don't worry about save peacoat. You like come back bring back best. Altima power play Kale Jerry. Reinsdorf strange back and let us win to now. You can't. We can't win win it. No P stores deal well. I just told you what happened. Still had turned on Krausz Krauss picked Phil and he earned on it. He duped into getting picked and getting elevated navy turned on him. Michael could not descend that Michael Body and the Spin. Master's spin so it was up to Michael. Step back and say you know what in the end krause fill? They're just to June bugs on my windshield in the final splattering on my windshield. I can go forward by myself. My team is not to hold Scotty. Went on played. Six MORE YEARS Steve. Kerr went on one two more rings. Ron Harper went on and won two. More rings with the Lakers. Every player on that team went on Dennis. Rodman went on an average ten rebounds for the Mavericks Min Fourteen. So the Lakers. They all still had plenty of gas in the tank to win two more championships. It should have been an straight championships in for Michael. Jordan would not have any leg to stand on with just like bullying. It was very selective in who he chose to believe. I read a story. I read a story yesterday about Human Robert Perish Robert Perez. I'll never with you because I have rings. Michael said I'll go kick your you know what she said. I took two steps toward him and say no. You're not Michael. I never had another problem with Michael. You see Michael has elected as Charles. Barkley said he had selected bullying who you knew who the bully and who who could and who he. Why didn't he got if he's what you said He. Why not go to J Ryan Door Matter? Powerplay go to Baylor skill. I won't do the right. Listen I want you to put it in big yellow lead? Gen Door if you bring bail back out comeback. He didn't do that because there is no nobody can bully. A billionaire allows you on their level. Michael Jordan was on their level. Now maybe now if he was a billionaire and you can transport him back he'd be thirty four and half the amount of money that has okay. We can have a different argument but at that time. Jerry Reinsdorf look at it like you still a player. I pay. He'll salary you're rich. Are Wealthy there the difference between the two? That's why he couldn't William feel you can make it all you want to heat it world there pick a coach but that's what bullies do they let guys they'd be with week in they pick on you. He Knew Jerry. Krause had more power with their new organization than he did and Soda. Jerry Reinsdorf because he owned the team. So that's what he did with it. You can dress it up. You can dress up all your vote to share that you and you said absolutely nothing but at the end of the day of this. That's got she'll saying absolutely nothing ever guy the spin master what happened. Everybody feel filled him still convinced him. Let's both take a year. Let's quit. Let's walk into the sunset together and Phil kept walking and walking and walked all the way to La to coach shack and go go. Michael took three years off. May the most mentally tool guy that has the strongest mind in the history of sports gas spy he got. Do let us strength. He got run a muck were different. Jordan. I'm confused now. How can a man that has the strongest man the most indomitable wheel in the history of team fourth? Maybe it's fourth bearden. How could he let a man do? He'll skip out now. You need you need Shantha lying. I'm won't turn it back over to you. You tell me how does may that have intestinal puerto too bad kind of my give? Do I need to hear from you right now? Because as opposed to Lebron James he actually looked up to and respected coaches head coaches. The blonde is always coached his own team. I'M GONNA quit saying I resent it because in the end. All you've got now is bully. Oh now I can dismiss him as a bully. It's the biggest crock you've ever tried to sell on this show before it's all you've got in the end it's over. Thank you last dance. It's the last dance for you. And Your Lebron is the goat argument. Which is the weakest argument in the history of sports but skip you magazine by tooth? Pain can't be true because the person is a great athlete. He must be a great person. He must be a great leader in every great attribute comes along with being a great athlete when you and I both know that's not true but you try to play that because you won't Michael Jordan to be this. This ideally figure this perfect. There's more with Michael no clock. Yes you don't I told you on the star. I told you before. The documentary started. It's going to come across that. He's mercilus ruthless heartless method to madness. Six Championships in six tries was six. Mvp's with a team. That was not that talented. That is basketball genius. That is goat as a two. The two little white guy who food bully the two guys he could move it talk by giants first-round pick from last year de'andre Baker and seahawks corner went and Dunbar while they were both accused of armed robbery in Florida and warrant has been issued for their arrest our according to the warrant now Baker and Dunbar rob guests of money and jewellery at a cookout on Wednesday Shannon here reaction to the story. This is just baffling to me. Is that all your life. You work just can't leave these environments. If you listen to a lot of guys store especially the African American guys that make professional sports. They do everything they possibly could to leave that environment to leave that type of situation make good get mom get dad get others out of that situation so they don't have to go back there. I'm compute reported that they had law they were. They were gambling earlier. They lost money and they returned a day or two later to recoup the losses. So I'm computer. You don't want to lose money. Don't gamble your first round. Pick you got gotTA contract worth over ten million dollars and now all of a sudden you WANNA turn up to it you to turn to Jack Boy. GonNa try to hit a legal somebody. What are you thinking is simple and they show up with no mask simple. There's a civil lots of shady stuff like this. No no face no case no name. No BLAME SKIP. Everybody knew who they were scared. How can I go by bill talking about stick it on? Somebody's kill everybody who I got no faced off with. Nba Playoffs. Try to do a hold up. He was saying put Taller in Detroit. And it's like that too he like. Nah that ain't me and it was the scale you do there. And then you you leave in a Mercedes' Abi on W. Who JACKET PEOPLE IN? Lambo no sense and you be worried about a commission you've got to worry about the Dior Broward County Dade County somewhere. That's what you need to be worried about skipping reported that some teams took Baker up their board because of attitude because a personality. If I can you believe it or not. Maybe it's a case of mistaken identity skill level. You do this. Just chalk it up to the game. We've all those money be a bagels or playing Playing car the role. We all love. Money's that's a part of it but to go back and try to recoup your bet way. Oj OJ here. I know I know exactly what you're talking about. I brought that up to somebody on the show early this morning sounds just like Oj all over again. That's my money my stuff my memorabilia. I'M GONNA go get her back with guns brush. Probably not not a good idea. Okay no so these stories. Tear me apart. Because it's possible that in a flash point of a moment in like five minutes both of these young men through their lives away. It's possible we don't know how it's all going to fall out. All we know for sure. Is that arrest? Warrants have been issued against these two and one is against the Andre Baker for four counts of armed robbery with a firearm and four counts of aggravated assault with a firearm. And Quinton Dunbar. Just got four counts of armed robbery with a firearm. There were some mixed accounts. Did he have a gun or not? Quinton Dunbar. I don't know we don't know all those facts yet. We just know this is not A. It's just good going to come of this and is a horrible look and just to remind everybody of the stature of these two young men de'andre Baker won the Jim Thorpe Award while Georgia for the best defensive back in America he was first team all American and he was a late first round draft choice of the New York football giants number thirty in the first round and he got good money. You got to sign five point seven million signing bonus. His guarantees are supposed to be up to nine million. It's a decent contract. You're making pretty good nine. That a lot of people your age not laking. He's only twenty. Two years of age. Clinton done bar was actually undrafted and by the way. Both of the young men are from as you point out born and raised in Miami D. Andre Baker went to North Western high school. Quinton Dunbar went to booker. T. Washington in Miami. Then Quinton Dunbar went to Florida undrafted but obviously as a redskin rose to prominence and last year pro football focus rank Quinton Dunbar. The second best cornerback in all of Football. He was on the rise. He had just been traded to Seattle. And if I might if you'll give me just a second Shannon to open up my phone. Here's a text. I got last night from Rob Ryan. Obviously Rex's on the show a lot last year year ago. Rob Was the defensive backfield coach in Washington. So he knows Quinton Dunbar very well and he said this quote from an listen rob is a straight shooter. There's no bs in going on here. He said Quinton is a great kid. Very smart in studied all the time. He was the only one in the secondary that knew the opponent. I recommended him to a friend of mine in Seattle meaning to trade for him which they did and he said he was just entering his prime he reminded me of Nandi. Awesome law in again. Nobody failed once he got his money and went to Philly. We know that but there was a time an Oberlin. Nominee was considered a top cornerback. Okay so this stature. Yes D- Top. This is the stature. Were dealing with with Andrei and Clinton and then to your point. I don't know the exact details but it sounds like they lost a ton of money is reported seventy Grand One card game with these people in somebody's backyard and then they went back to the card game a couple of nights later and it's sales like we don't know the exact details in the truth here but it sounds like to your point. Let's get our money back. Maybe they think they got Gedin. I don't know and you know the rest of the story and evil eye. Witnesses says it looked like it was a plan robbery because a third accomplice came in in a mask so they don't have masks on their well known the accomplice don't know has a mask on and they had their three cars lambeau. Bmw WHATEVER THE MERCEDES. They had lined up outside like getaway cars so it's sales like they decided. Let's go get our money back. Don't know the details. Not Trying to convict him in the Court of public opinion but the point is it's just so wrong it. What are you thinking? You have your whole future ahead of your life here view and it's pretty good. It looks like I know. De'andre struggle last year and he got taken out of some games. But he's still he's he's a good young player and he was going to still do good things and he'd already made a whole. Nice Chunk of early twenty two year old money. You don't need this foolish pride foolish Macho McKee's Mo- whatever you WANNA call it and now look net nail. Now they're going to be taken into custody and God bless both of them but Shannon is just hard for me to process what what just happened because they both had so much to lose and they just might have lost it all so true. Skip thing when you did look and I. I didn't speak for me. I I when I go home to Glenville gamble with the guys but I would only. They were shocked. Leave too small for you. You'll need to go to this place with that place where they play. Pod I say boy I I don't know them. I say I know. Y'All I trust you guys. I don't trust them. 'cause I'm telling you as soon as they find. I'M GONNA come. I've got this. Everybody down is not worth it. I lose a couple of grand you got. I don't care I'll take you. We will go to the House. We will eat break. We'll talk about what we did in high school and I'm GonNa Laugh at all still gambling with people around the table out lending them money. Hold on how young people money you guys still at the table. Let's get I knew them. They borrowed money from me. Why pay US BACK IN MY SISTER? Liberty Liberty? The money was killed the relationship that I have with them. I'm not going somewhere that I'm unfamiliar with and Gamble. Because they cheat in pain get out of hand and then somebody going calm. You got a paper with big money skill. Somebody's GONNA come. You already know what to do. Lay Down I've seen situations like that. So no but skill you you gotta You. GotTa be gotTa Mercedes. You plan the. Nfl shot at seventy dollars a month because temporary timber rare moment. Jif could possibly La Lifetime of regret men. Don't put yourself in that situation man you in the NFL and not you. WanNa be boy. You want to go back and try to hit a lick because you lost your Outta your mother Shannon Shannon. You're in the pro football hall of fame in every you go back and you so is and fraternize with other hall of Famers. Entrust every one of them. No matter their color no matter their background. They all hit some work in the road. They all to take that one split-second wrong path. May Ryan wrong decision. That could have cost rial of you guys the hall of fame but fortunately everybody said No. I can't I can't do that no. I can't risk doing that. And you stay on the path that took you to the hall you end. You may continue. You just got five. You got six million dollars just last year and now you want to go hit somebody. Somebody just hit you up for seventy grand. You want to go back but I can't believe it can't what I was reading. I didn't believe it. I like this is a case of mistaken identity in the you here. Whip I witness after witness and they ain't got no mass you just two days before and then you come back. Boy You nasty. They lucky they look big. Catch the right people because skip. That could have ended tragically because normally when you have a backyard car gave. I don't know how they do it but let me tell you when you have backyard car game. When I grew up at two three people gather piece. Own a bleeding. No I got it now. Easy Way to wrap that one up as we wait for more details to come out regarding situation since the packers traded up to draft quarterback Jordan love. We haven't heard from Aaron Rodgers yet. Well that is about to change later today. Rogers is scheduled to speak at three eastern so Shannon as with you. What do you want to hear? From Aaron Rodgers today was overshadowed. Roger would be okay. Rogers. Everybody they gave by understands that while. I'm speaking today. And you WANNA know where we'll Aaron thinking feeling. I'm peed AFA the multiple. Just go pick another quarterback. How does he win this year? We one game from the Super Bowl. How does quarterback help was weird this year? I'M GONNA ask you such. You win catch passes. Can you run the Ball Kenny? Kenny Dr Receiver. No no a note with go. Get A quarterback anyway. But you know what I'm GonNa do. I'm here and I'm a ball now. I'll go to you know what I was. GonNa have one of my season and when I win that. Mvp give we go into the playoffs? I'm not worried about that but I won't everybody from top to bottom and you need to call your name. You know who you are if you were in on this decision. I want you to kill. What don't shy I'll go play. I'M GONNA ball out but I just want you. To know is not my job and get your love reading. I will not turn him away if he asked me a question. I will politely answer that question. If he needs anything from me. It's he comes to me. I will give him information. But if you think I'm inviting him over to my house if you will seem in the hallway and a brothers grabbed steady session. That's not happening. That's the coach's job. They get paid to coach. I get paid to play. I'm going to play my. You know what up but I take the you-know-what off. Y'All make me say. Oh y'all be right about my demise for the last five years I haven't been slowed down the least bit but you know what they have yet to ever draft receiver in the first round. They have yet to draft me tie in the first row but I keep making magic. I keep making chicken salad out of chicken. You know what and I will continue to do it. I'm going to have an unbelievable season this year. And you're gonNA look foolish because the only way he's GonNa play. Y'All have to get rid of me and you know what I can't say I'll I'll be disappointed if it did. Aaron that is simply the most profanity that never been uttered on undisputed and I hope the. Fcc gives us a break because Aaron said it Shannon. Didn't say Aaron said it. Remember Sec. Aaron smyers Yes. Yes you for once. I would love to hear Aaron Rodgers. Look in the mirror and deliver a painfully honest self analysis. That when something like I know I haven't played up to my standards the last year so I don't blame them for drafting Jordan love because they deserve to draft Jordan love. And now it's up to me to lock back in and to rededicate and to rise back to the level that I know I'm capable of playing at. That's what I wish. He would say he would say that today if he would show some humility then it would certainly shut me up because I have often called Aaron on this. Show the Lebron James of the National Football League. I've often said that. Aaron leads the League in finger-pointing blame deflecting diva nece. Because he is a diva and he is a thin skinned diva and he takes everything personally. But it's never his fault. It's always his receivers fault or his management's fault the truth is he has declined over the last three years. The truth is his. Qbr has fallen for each of the last three and his completion percentage has fallen for each of the last three. In the end you cannot condemn his management for taking Jordan love for trading up and taking him in the first round. Because they're going to need a quarterback. It appears sooner than later as Erin. Approach is aged thirty seven and a lot of people out there before the draft thought that Jordan love can turn into Patrick Mahomes. If that's true then they may or nice smooth and again. Aaron didn't get the receiver help in the first round in a very deep draft of receivers that that he deserved. I give you that much. But his play didn't merit it. His play is is getting dangerously average and in the end they have to sit back in management. And say we haven't been to super bowl and almost ten years so Aaron pulled off a miraculously wild-car road wildcard run to Super Bowl. That he won't over the Pittsburgh steelers and yet since then his plan for ECKERD is six and seven and many of those least. Five of those six were questionable. Playoff wins because one came against Joe. Webb came against Kirk cousins when he was really struggling in Washington another came in the DEZ. Caught it game at Lambeau win. Odell took his receivers to South Beach to get ready for the game. Up On the Frozen Tundra at Lambeau the playoff game and the giant stunk. It up in here and was able to take advantage of that and then obviously there was the mason crossbar game. That still haunts me Jerry World in which it took to Inter Galactic field goals of fifty one fifty six yards. I still don't know how they went over the crossbar but they did and it took those to save them from losing that game to tack and company so Aaron has not been great in the playoffs since the Super Bowl. Run and I can't argue with twenty ten and twenty eleven seasons but Shannon. We're in twenty twenty. We're heading toward twenty twenty one. It's been too long so it's time for era. Show a little bit of humility and show that the Jordan. Love Selection has religious fire. That's what I'd like to hear from him. My fire is it. I'm going to show you you food. Air Rogers doesn't that have a fire because he's not posting everything he's doing like Tom Brady. Tom Brady's and evacuated we're shoulder. Tom Brady's throwing passes so you automatically assume because he doesn't do that he's not ignited his fire? He doesn't have the passion like Tom Brady. But still what you didn't tell people that his losses he has a thirty seven point loss. They get home up did they. Give up thirty seven points of defense. Give them points last year in a championship game. They gave up forty four to Atlanta. They gave a fifty one year to marriage on a cargo. They gave up another thirty seven to like manning they gave up thirty two Arizona with overtime. Game Jersualem shoveled paths. That was like thirty point at some point in time. How give him some hill? How deep is one time? Tom Brady had imported playoff giving a thirty thirty points. Or more twice in the last eight years would you? He got overcome their well. I don't you guys should overcame. Give the forty one and the super bowl rights. 'cause that's what goes do goes overcome at birth. They overcome that what you tell me. What do your guy did do? Your guy couldn't go to fifteen in a playoff game last year. Thirteen little measly point what he couldn't get David. Fourteen Shannon. The Best Player on the packers last year was named Aaron Rodgers. It was Jones how that team won. Thirteen Games still makes me scratch my head and many of the sports books right now. Have the over under on. Packers wins this year at eight point five. Do the math eight point. Five is the over under on a team that won thirteen last year. Everybody's saying over rated fluky fluky Gabor was overrun on the cowboys. Nine Care Care and you would you keep saying he killed his number. His trust of the interception ratio his completion his qbr yard for was better than Tom. Brady and use their handle outstanding season. How Tom Brady? Outstanding season in Aaron Rodgers. Numbers are better than you've record. Wives completion percentage touchdown to interception. Qbr If if if Tom Brady had great season how did Aaron Rodgers had a were season would a record and number. That's typically are better than Tom Brady way. That would leave. I Will Tom. Brady did not have Davante Adams whose top five receiver Tom Brady last year did not have a Jimmy Graham. He had the worst collections of tied end in football. He did not have an Aaron Jones he had Sony. Michelle lost in Bella checks doghouse. Which left him with REX. Burkhead really I mean. Tom Had the worst weapons in football and had them in position against the dolphins in the final regular season game with yet another game winning fourth quarter comeback drive to win the two seed in the AFC sensational against huge odds and Aaron backed into what they did in the playoffs last year. I'm sorry he did have devante. Don't take that away from him and he did have Jimmy Graham. Still You keep saying. He had in position for the two seed. The loss of Miami did not out of the play. Offs engaged them the third theme which gave them a home game with. They wondered vision and Tom Brady Scoring. Fourteen points at home in the first half coach. Bela checks defense. Gave up fourteen points over sixty minutes over four quarter of the football. Because the other touchdown that Titan. They should've gave us to Tom. Brady hit low. Logan I ride Logan Ryan in the head with a big fix so called Bella gay fourteen point. No he had reported half to eighty dropped it. Your gas scored fourteen. Let's talk about that. He's four team points. Shannon Sharpe the hottest buzzsaw at the end of the year and pro football last year. Was the Tennessee. Titans the best team in pro football last year was the Baltimore Ravens. What happened to them in a home? Playoff game that titans had just as they happen. Beloved England so you ran into a hot team that had Kansas City on the roads for just a little while until the title forgot how to tackle Patrick Mahomes but but but New England got the Cooler Cool Moon. If you owe. Tom Brady Played Tom. Brady he you right. Brees up genie the the call them at article. 'cause he can call anything that's hot now. All of a sudden he's got fourteen point where bellinger defense gave up a touchdown. The live Dr to Ryan Patrick. What about Tom? Brady's going what about back right now. Right now. They're calling him. Tomba Bay and he's going to be hotter than Tampa Bay is in August book. It go come in. Scotch Eagle coming up this guy and he will give his mind so I flew rare and they book or you know he got he got a googly eyes anyway just paying pop a little bit they ray it steelers Opera Linebacker. James Harrison said that. Hey coach Mike. Tomlin handed him an envelope after delivering a hard head on a brown. Do seaver in one thousand ten arrison was initially find. Seventy five thousand dollars for the hit but it was later reduced to fifty thousand dollars. Harrison's agent has denied this guy's even steelers President Art Rooney is denying that this ever happened. Shannon. What's your reaction to the story from the all. Nfl oversee here. You go to me. They got the wrong address. And so I'm just had of in the ending it to you. Obviously this is not a good look because the way it's being portrayed that it was a it was a money for a hard hit with would be construed as a bounty and Sean Payton talked about this is like I love to see them this and you know so. It's not a good look for the steelers and this is why they're knocking down. The aging is tried to knock it down for me. James knows about he knows how this is. GonNa be construed. He knows this and this was over ten years ago so to bring this up in the NFL go back and look at this and might richer actively do something. Because there's precedent here you cannot pay. Someone asks out of their salary to injure to do something extra that outside of the scope of what you would normally get paid for it and still. They did away with about as they used to be. You come in you know. They were put out on anybody but put about it out on the Kicker for Dallas remember. He kicked off the shit. Knocked the dates so it would be a privilege you when I came into the League if what about people and that was the thing but they've done away with bad for James to bring that back up now I just don't see I just don't see the I I don't see a reason or what good could come out of that. Okay I hear that but you know James I know James because he's on our show a lot as a contributor. I like James Harris. I I believe in James Harrison in his insight into defensive strategy in mentality and him telling truths. I tend to believe this happened. I don't know that it had been but I don't think James Harrison would just flat out make it up it's biggest thing just to make up now. You can argue about. Why bring it up now? It does what good how why you got but remember. He's talked about that. Hit on massacre on our show before and he's made the point. That's sort of a bitter sweetly funny point that if I'd known I was GONNA get fined. Seventy five thousand for that hit. I wouldn't hit him with about fifty percent of what I had. He said he was just trying to dislodge. The football wasn't going after him was not trying to hurt him. In any way shape or form he actually said on the podcast that some receivers on other teams had come to him in pre-game warmups ups and said. Hey I'll shoot you a little something if you'll hit me up high instead of down. Low the receivers as you know Shannon being one yourself you most fearful of your knees at that point. Nobody cared as much about your head as you did about your moneymakers your knees. Your knee goes correct. You might be gone for good so that James is saying I. I'm trying to go higher for the sake of the receivers and he said on my daddy's grave. I hit massive Koi with about half of what I had to deliver. I was just trying to dislodge the football on a receiver run was like hitting a running back in the hole so right. He was shocked that he got fined. Seventy five which finally got reduced to fifty but he also said in the podcast that he had to go talk to the Commissioner in New York and along with him came the GM of the steelers. Kevin Colbert and James. Said he did know. Kevin Colbert that well. They haven't spent that much time around each other and he said he was shocked to find that. Kevin Colbert was to quote James. An assassin. That Kevin Colbert went after the commissioner even harder than James did to defend James in it and that remember Mike Tomlin. At the time there was no flag thrown on the hit so it went on fly and my. Tomlin said right after the game the he believed that was legal. Hit So love your. Gm is yeah. Kevin Colbert's fighting hard for you in the Commissioner's Office and now chronological story evolves. We're now he goes back to Pittsburgh. The fine sticks at I think is reduced to fifty and then he said the Jesus thing that that the coach coach Tomlin ever did for him was he comes up and says here. This is for you and again I. I didn't take that as a bounty. I'm taking it as we tried to find the front because we thought you within. Yeah they were just paying the fine would have been. I don't know if it'd be the fool fifty but maybe it would be half that I don't know but it was. I took it to mean they were paying the fine as you point out. That's also really because it's it's a salary cap violations. You can't just give players more money than the cap will allow so that's balance to. It's not as out of bounds as a bounty program so I'm not seeing bounty. I'm just saying we believe you were okay. You were in balance on this hit. So we're going to help you on this one. We're going pay a portion or all the fine whatever ended up being in remember Shannon. The irony of this was in the end. James and Mike Tomlin sell completely apart. Remember in two thousand seventeen. I think it was James. His third time around in Pittsburgh and he went back because he said Mike Tomlin promised him he play around half the snaps he said it was between forty and fifty percent that he was promised and he was playing. Some games didn't even dress so he would fake falling asleep in meetings and then he just if he didn't know if you weren't supposed to suit up he would just go home and watch the game on television and he was trying to act his way out of. Pittsburgh which finally happened so he doesn't have a lot of good things to say about. Tomlin which is why he said the Jesus thing that Mike ever did for me was way back in two thousand ten so I tend to believe it yesterday. Sean Payton said the. Nfl's not gonNA DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS. He said don't hold your breath. They'll sweep it under the carpet. I it happened so long ago. I think they'll just look the other way. Obviously Art Rooney said that that very certain nothing like this ever happened okay. I don't know I just. I'm just GONNA stand my ground here to say I do believe in James and I don't believe he would lie about something like that happens that when you're telling a story and I do believe James could have decapitated because if you if you look at it a skill he was just ending their if he'd had it running star and put his helmet unethical wads chin. Oh actually been over for sure so he can hit it with his shoulder but because James has such a low centre ravaged. He's a big man but he's short so even even when magic while was Doug because he saw him at the last second. You couldn't get the blown if so James Comey borrowed from their scale and so I understand. He gave me like you said it. Could've it could've been like look. We fought for you and that was the thing if they go five for you. Even if it doesn't at least you fall for me Bro. Good at least I know I got you know. Put you in harm's way now it's like you undisputed. I can't put you on blast point one time L. Blew me no matter what we good go j j you got no matter what transpired between you and Mike Tomlin. At least at one point they thought for you ever remember. They gave you opportunity after opportunity. Now you stand on that being an all pro defensive player of the year but now you turn your back on them and put them in a situation now. I don't know gift. Maybe Roger Goodell call him a Kimber. Let me talk to you we know. How do you believe that happened now? Roger that you know we'll stand the organization. We would never do anything. I that's what I figured. Okay get out of here but you J. J. Clinton the steelers in a very uncomfortable situation. He Mike Tomlin Barry Tom comparable situation and when they back they gonNA ask him about this now. This might have happened here. We go and by the time the media get an opportunity to Mike Tomlin. It might be changed. But they're going to ask him about this. They will so look in the end. Do I believe it happened? I do? I don't know that is just my gut feeling knowing Jane's but it was wrong for him to bring it up because it does no good for anybody and you say it unfortunately puts everybody in a in a tough spot for trending story of the day sponsored by Kia's tough and ready lineup of all wheel drive. Suv's give it everything. Well the final two episodes of Michael Jordan's documentary the last dance air this Sunday. I do not want this to end but Shannon. What do you want to see them? Both episodes nine and ten. Oh what do you WanNa see a baby bonus track about the washing today day to you? The Washington have a right you. He did Brain Scottie. Pippen now if I'm not mistaken was he older roster ninety four so I'm trying to figure how does anything from nine hundred ninety four season? How does that make the last dance only Jamaica Scottie? Pippen look bad because he wouldn't go in and take the take a impact the ball into Toni. Kukoc TO TAKE TONI. Kukoc to take the shot. How did that make the last day what they gotta do? It might might leave it. There probably within Birmingham. Somehow that made that made it so I just WanNa see somebody a bonus track see what it would like your Washington easy because they would be happy to go. See to see play now in all honesty all seriously. All jokes aside. I don't really know what I'm looking for. I want to know how he's obviously. The last shot is going to be in there. But I just WANNA know so we've seen the maturation of Mike and we've seen the behind the scenes of how he got motivated. St Saying we've just it would just motivation. It was hard motivation. It could be construed as bullying. I don't really know where it's going to go now skip. I really don't other than the last shot. Which that's your favorite moment in sports history. 'cause you purchasing you. Purchase that photo to see Michael Jordan. Hold that poll. You probably got him decided to. I bet you did. I bet you got undecided but now you know so I really don't. I really honestly all honesty scale. I do not have any idea what these last two episodes is going to encapsulate. Because you've got to our and basically if the Bible shot so I don't know where we're going from here okay to your first point semi serious. Yes he did. Come back after three years. The last three years of his prime ages thirty five thirty six and thirty seven. He did not play basketball. Why I don't know that's where I'd like to hear but he did come back. This is the last dance. This is about the nineteen ninety eight season the final one in Chicago but four years later he came back at age thirty eight and thirty nine to Washington. He played okay. He wasn't in the best shape. He did smoke too many cigars. At that point he averaged twenty three and six the first year and twenty six the second year. It wasn't pathetic but it wasn't pretty but the point is he had three. Yeah he had his moments here and there but whatever this is about ninety eight this is about how it ended and why it ended and began. I was there in ninety eight as the columnist Chicago Tribune and what was often perplexing to me was. Michael spoke a lot to the media without really speaking. He was the master of show and he could say a whole lot without saying much of anything unless you really backed him into a corner with a pointed question as I did about Michael Phil keeps saying that. It's a done deal. You're just going to quit if when he has to walk out the back door and Michael said that's feels opinion. That's when I had some hope. Okay maybe Michael isn't going to just go with fill out the back door. But the point is he's rarely spoke in his heart on. What really happened so Shannon. I'm hoping that that we get to see that guy who's now kicked back. Anat easy chair in these interviews. And he's got a little little something is glass and they keep filling it and I want him to so to speak. Let his hair down. I know he doesn't have a lot of air left. But whatever's let it down. Let us see what's inside. You let us here on the basketball court. What happened in the? What's called the flu game? The classic game at Utah and the ninety seven finals led us here. What was in your heart soul? Mind against the Pacers it Shannon. I was there a covered. All seven of those games in the conference files ninety eight. It was a hell late contest between a team coached by Larry Bird. Who was the coach of the year in the NBA? That year and the Star was as you know. Reggie Miller but it was deep in talent and firepower rick. Smits the to Davis's obviously Chris. Mullin Jalen Rose Travis. Best a Mark Jackson. It was a loaded basketball team. That 'cause Michael and company a whole lot of problems. The home team won all seven games of that series including the Bulls winning game. Seven eight hundred eighty three at home. It was not down drag out. Reggie says that the Pacers we see the previews for what's coming up in episode nine. Reggie says that the Pacers just better than the Bulls. He might have been right about that. Except for that. One guy on the Bulls and then we come to the last shot at Utah. And I've told you Scotty was sick before the game. And then he wrenched his back on her early wide open dunk and he was virtually useless. The rest of the game scored eight points in that game. Michael scored forty five while the whole rest of the team scored forty two so what? What's going on in his head during that game because they were pretty sure they wouldn't have Scotty through a potential game seven Utah so it is Michael saying it's do or die now. I have to make this shot on Brian. Russell I gotta go steal the ball source from call Malone I gotta close the deal now because we might be able to close it and game seven. I WanNa hear that and finally as we talked about to start the show. Shannon I WANNA hear. Does he have any regrets for not going to Jerry REINSDORF and saying? Hey let's make a deal. Let's compromise here. I'll stay. I Know Phil and Jerry or do not advise them. The bridges burned. I get it. They can't coexist anymore. So give me a made man give me Doug Collins. Back is my my coach next year. Don't give me Tim Floyd Jerry. Krause had fallen in love with Tim. Floyd he's a nice guy. Got To know tim very well the next year but Tim was a rising college basketball coach. Done really well at New Orleans and then at Iowa state they'd gone to three straight double as he was a fine young coach. Who was the disaster? The next three years without Michael and got fired in the fourth year so the point was Michael said give me somebody with some NBA experience. Who I respect. I'll come back for two more years. Well I want to know Michael. Talk about that episode ten on Sunday night. I WANNA know I WANNA ear it from the goats melts what happened. Why did it happen your rights? That would be interesting if he will reflect back and say you know what one of my biggest regrets is that I did not go talk to Jay arrived or and I did not get him to try to change my own bringing bringing field back. Still Look we look. It's hard for me to believe Jerry Reinsdorf in Bill Jackson. They don't have to communicate communicating about game. Playing your officers in one corner of now than the other and so we don't have to get a low. Just hey you you get the players. The contract all that stuff. Let Bill were with the team. You guys stay out of each other's hair so that's the way it's going to be so yeah it'd be interesting if he's going to be that reflective but I go of. Michael is the goddess. Have any regrets about anything that I've done in my career is basketball wise? Skip that that was the thing that would be something that I would like to hear. Does he likes me. What could have been like? I said I believe Jerry. Reinsdorf shoe allow someone outside of the Organization. Crumlin within two this thing out if the pace of big somebody Utah or whomever Antonio if somebody beats I got no problem with that but don't method now so that's going to be blue game. Yeah and also remember this. I think he was like episode. One Jerry Reinsdorf so on camera for the documentary saying Jerry. Krause told me that in ninety eight the team had gotten too old so krause said convinced. Reinsdorf who also own the white sox and didn't have that much rocus on the Bulls. He just lead Jerry. Krause run that basketball operation but the point is Jerry Krause Convinced Jerry Reinsdorf. Did the team was too old so Jerry. Krause get started over and showed that he could win without Michael Jordan Baloney Shannon. Look at the ages of the players. It was not too old Scotty was thirty. Two Rodman was thirty six but he was a below. The Rim rebound. He's still had basketball left in him. Ron Harper winter. One tumor rings as a starter for the Lakers. And then we go all the way down the roster. Toni Kukoc from twenty nine six man of the year. That team could've come back for two more years. I believe it would have been favored to win the next two championships. I believe it would have. Who knows if it would? I don't know would. They have gotten hurt. Would they have broken down? Would Michael run out of sort of psychological gas? Maybe but I really believe that team was physician to win two more championships or at least get to the fight of you like them. You like them over San Antonio FANTONI ONEAL TO DAVID. David got it. Yeah is given up. I forgot about the blue game. I think the thing is we look at Mike. He has such iconic moment know he had the blue game he had the last shot off ninety eight. He had the acrobatic layup in his first. Nba Finals get so he has that you will never ever forget because you'll remember where you were because you remember. Scotty helping them out the court and he's sitting down and sit down he applauds down. You remember that you remember him holding you remember him. Having the ball turned out the ball and his right hand did all the studies. Eight nine go do that. I won't do so you remember that. It's just that the Lomas. Oh Connie that you'll never forget. You know. Even though he he was great all the time he had some movie. That you've start one out of the bath getting three people around him in somehow he lays the ball up and gets POW. He has moments. But it's moments in game that you will never ever forget you know it. Sounds like you're making the case. He was the goat. And isn't the goat. Go skilled there you go. I think why why you do I get. I'd get a man credit. I got out of bed. Probably a hundred grand on Jordan shoe. And you've got people out here convinced. I pay me all the money back so I could really hate or do I need all the money back. But he joins. I got what I need you guys to do. The for you know all right. Let's get back to talking some football because pro. Football focus release all decade team top one hundred and one players topping the list. Was Tom Brady followed by Aaron? Donald and drew brees to round out the top three. The next quarterback on the list was Shannon's guy. Aaron RODGERS DOWN AT NUMBER SIX SHANNON. Got a problem with this agree. Yeah got a big problem. Big Problem I don't see how says also scenario with you reach and be ranked ahead of Roger. Skip if you look at it. Aaron Rodgers have they super bowl super bowl. Mvp and two regular season MVP INVIS- decade drew. Brees DOES NOT SKIP playoffs. Drew brees is four and six air of tenant. Seven degrees has twenty one touchdowns ten inception Air Roger. Thirty six and eleven and if you look at the championship game loss get two thousand nine hundred. Thirty seven points to the forty niners. Two Thousand Sixteen. Report the Falcons and we know what happened in overtime against the adult. They've failed appeal to kick. So if I just look at it and I understand that drew brees had the numbers. But he's throwing the ball over a thousand more times but Aaron Rodgers dating this decade and the seven to nine a pro bowl appears air. Rogers missed a half or two season. But if you look at what they accomplished. Rogers has six division. Titles Rees has four. You Look at the Super Bowl appearance you look at. Nfc Championship game appearances. Best four to one Roger Favor so I'm surprised that drew breathe is so much higher than Aaron Rodgers. Another one that I thought it was like but then when you look at his. Jj Watt. I think what happened to. Jj Step is that he started off like gangbusters but if you look at over the last three or four years. He's kind of been nick. He's missed a substantial amount of time and I think was passed him so I was a little surprised. Would I be disappointed if? Jj Watt would have been a little higher. No but I understand what they took into account because the last three years three or four years. He's missed a lot of times injury but the biggest problem that I have is with Aaron Rodgers. Being way below drew brees. Wait a SEC in our living room. Here eligible rule. Tom Brady is number one on this list. European Aaron Rodgers is sixth. You have repeatedly told me the greatest thrower of the football. The greatest ever is Aaron bleeding. Rogers you have told me. He is transcendent that he is considerably. He has been better than Tom Brady. So why didn't you go right to the top of the list and say Aaron Rodgers should not just be above drew brees? He should be above Tom. Brady you did not say that because I don't think you really believe that. Skip SKIP IN THIS DECADE. Brady has been the five super bowls. He's one free. His numbers speak for itself mistake. They won the division every single year. Skill Tom Brady deserve to be the quarterback in this decade. That was not. I've made my point. The problem that I have is drew. Brees it three Aaron Rodgers at six I believe should be reversed. I stand by that so you try to bring them. We're not talking about Brady. See You always one. Without Deflect America Shannon. Sharpe just admitted that Tom Brady is better than Aaron. Rodgers. It's over. He has lost the basketball gold argument and the football goat argument in the same week. It's over for Lebron James. It's over for Aaron bleeping Rogers if I might. I read just a couple of lines from the capsule on pro football focus on Tom Brady ranked number one. He has a single season grade pro. Football has ever given a quarterback that was back in twenty sixteen. That's not that long ago. He has the greatest four year. Stretch pro football focus has ever-graded that was from. Twenty fifteen to twenty eight eighteen. That's not that long ago and pro. Football Focus says. Tom Brady defines clutch. I've been trying to tell you that. For four years in the fourth quarter and overtime he still has the highest pro football focus grade of the decade and beyond that as great as he's been in the clutch he's been doing it without making many mistakes. That's what truly makes him. Special says pro football focus. I know the stats can be hard to swallow to sort of. Let it compute but think about this. Tom Brady in the decade had by grade. Only one hundred twenty four. What are called turnover worthy plays? That's out of six thousand one hundred fifty one. That's two percent of his plays in the decade were termed by pro football focus turnover worthy. That's outrageously low. That's by far the best. That's why he is the unquestioned. Vote of the National Football League. Which brings me to sixth ranked Aaron Rodgers. It makes the Point Shannon. And I'll give you this late. Twenty ten all of twenty eleven. Aaron Rodgers was sensational. He made a case for about a year and a half that he was goat but that was a long time ago and that was the end of Air Rogers as you knew and loved him and pro. Football Sunday concludes in its capsule on Aaron Rodgers. What holds him back from the very top of this list is that he just couldn't sustain that level and over the past few seasons has sunk deeper and deeper into a Rut of some bad habits. That's pro football. Because that's not me so they are. Validating what I've told you he's been in decline over the last three seasons. Lots of bad habits they grade ever and lower on pro football focus. Will you better ask something smart? Because I think you're in trouble though a number in trouble I'm glad appropriate bogus his out. But they just didn't start playing quarterback in two thousand fifteen through two thousand eighteen. So it'd be interesting to see if they were to gray some Peyton manning years someone Dan Marino years and so we could see if those are cob are to Tom. Brady's they did they did. And then the end in a decade who turned the ball over Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers and the decade is a civil question. Yes the session. Who had more interceptions Tom Brady? Or Aaron Rodgers Simple question. It wasn't a statement. Look I got gotTa simple answer. They have a chart on both focus. You can look it up over the decade. Tom Brady had by far. The fewest turnover. Worthy plays Aaron Rodgers. To your point was second on that list but by far the Brady terminal workplace place. I'm talking about turn over. I'll talk about smelling the donor. I'm eating doughnut now. Where did you got a doughnut? Smell the donuts guilt Betas win guy turned it over. No most? Sometimes you throw one to the other team in the other team Dr Interception. That happened on your skill based here. Did you eat of the heat down where you know what I wanted to make state last night with some baked potato and Yada Yada? Why did you keep telling me some time? Utah to the guy. He's drops it. Did he have more interceptions than Aaron? Rodgers a simple no or simply yard. Jedi cannot treat a witness as a hostile witness. Mac Avenue the Tom Brady had the fewest turnover worthy. Plays pro football focus. This is their list and they ranked Aaron Rodgers six because fell off after twenty ten slash eleven case closed in involvement game over. If I'm not mistaken so he fell off much that he won the MVP in twenty fourteen. Hey Gabe years accounts in this decade. Play up the twenty two hundred twenty eleven but yet he wanted the MVP or twenty four. So how did it follow up well a lot? The last three years in fact it fell off so much. They decided penalize him all the way down to six on the list and they admitted what holds them back from being at the very top of the list is he just couldn't sustain Shannon. You're clinging to the past you're holding onto what used to be and screaming before your very eyes is the fact that Aaron Rogers has not been very good over the last three years and even last year he was eighteen. Qbr and twenty-third completion percentage. That will sly. That's not going to make you number one in the decade. Still but if you look at it like that that's like you. Same boat fell off okay. Because he doesn't run nine five eight and he won the Olympic tonight eight. Oh usually what he fell off. He's not say well no. He's not. He's still winning you. I mean you compare to that when you compare it to those historically great even the likelihood of somebody going forties forty five and six skill Komo now. What if that's the case? Tom Brady pillow because he's never had another season in which went fifty eight so we fell out if you hold if you hope home to that mythical season five thousand fifty touchdowns thirteen years session if you judge him by that. You're GONNA say he fell off New Judge. Peyton manning about fifty five and ten in. He doesn't have fifty four hundred Dr. Yeah he fell off skip come. Oh he's still had better numberth last year than Tom Brady and he fell off and Tom Brady still played the hot clip. I can't understand. I just don't know how a guy has more judge. Dow You're innocent better completion for a better. Qbr BETTER YARD FOR A. He fell off but the guy that he had better numbers than is feel fallen on. So I ask you one last simple question simple yes or a simple no should aaron rodgers be ranked above. Tom Brady at number one on this list. Shannon Sharpe Simple. Yes or no no due to the attorney for me. I have the right to the pit the memory protection so I use my God. Yup Game Taste closed. The Rams New logo and now new uniform has been met with some public backlash some of that coming from rams legend and friend of the Eric Dickerson. Who JOINS US now? Eric it is so good to have you routier undisputed. We're so glad to have you with us. But I gotta ask Eddie you a little critical of the new logo of the uniform. Tell us why would they be calling? You know call in you know went to the I bet and Innocent be honest and thought the logo a logo was was indicative of the Los Angeles Wayans and then they took the same thing. The uniforms are or the uniforms. This is the history of the lambs forest. The whole they came in one thousand nine hundred and sixty first team in Los Angeles on into so johnny with the full box. Will I mean I'll uniforms Joan fearsome foursome? You think about it slater all great players and it's almost taken away the history of the Los Angeles rams and understand the with the codes. I think the main thing I just asked him why would you? Why would you on and then asked us? After the fact I'm Marcia Marcia Clark was on the call and more guys the question he said anything and goodness someone else to take credit. We'll do we look to. Do we blame for this and it was a gallon college so well. I guess you blame me on a sense it say so. What did you talk to former players current players about the logo and a uniform? Does anybody know what we talked to two office? Talk to women which is fine in the in the office. We didn't talk the player me. That just didn't make sense. Why does after the fact I mean although an interesting I want to thank you for the name the embassador because I really think of the name I I take it from. My Band is one of about their football team. They'll go out actually skill for you. Would it was took the star of The Dallas convoy? Since we've said Mary I did give you that nickname because you do live and die. Fear Rams So. I must admit when I read your remarks from your radio interview. Yesterday I was shocked that you publicly condemned these uniforms but I did not know that they had sought your approval. Well they'd already decided that it's all in order that that you didn't really get any input they'd already decided this is the way it's going to be so. I was shocked at how critical you were because you still work with and Ford. The team and yet you weren't really consulted before they released the new uniform so now. I have sympathy for you and I'm on your side. At first I was shocked. The hypercritical of this but they didn't really ask your opinion until it was too late right exactly. I asked him when when they showed US showed them to us. I said okay. Can THEY CHANGE THEM INTO? Who Don't like him. It's not changing them. Ask You know they would've asked me what I would have seen it this. Let's let's make this fun. Let's elway bringing some great artists that we have in Los Angeles and let's take the tufty the top therm the top twenty top Sam by and the topics who've been topic on this this to take those calls arteries and say we're GonNa let you take our logo work we should take our yelled. And and we're GONNA leave you say fifty thousand season tickets was so great in. La when our fans the fans were ended. I mean you talk to the fans they said the thing is we'd like the caller why mess with the I mean it doesn't look like all the guy on the phone. I said. This doesn't look like a horn anymore. I mean you know time I'm this time of the past. An enclave on the pass is time Jalen Ramsey towns and probably the worst time but I still think that woman was on is an iconic piece of the Los Angeles Rams Football Team that we've lost that I do like the colors is so I need you to get married. Aaron Donald Jersey Autograph. I appreciate that sort of problem that you have if that Bay they tinker with the Horn because it looked like they broke the horn. It's not a single horn is like to have horns that's not connected so they would have just left the hornby intact. Bring new colors brighter colors. You would have been okay with that. You just have a problem with the horn being have on. Not a complete on one hundred percents. Yeah that's my problem. That's the problem with all of the fans. 'cause Mike The Shield shoulder a little bit wider ram curve living. Wow that's not my article on on the hill and why mess with the understood elected. That's a no no no. That was my main issue and said they asked us this the wanting it was after the see. I don't take any change you know. We're not saying okay. So they basically yeah took everybody on the com- groups to home was all pretty much the same so eric while we have you you did. Bring out my cowboys. Were haven't been able to get your opinion of how the deck contract stalemate will play out. How do you see it ending? Good or bad will also be this month soon online. Jerry Jones you know and I was the COBB was not a cobweb and feel like when you when you hear the details of all the opposite of off. It's great about a guy who was found and I'm not saying I think is is in your rape. Water Office is Great. And it's like it's for the Dallas Cowboys going. GonNa make so much more than off. The field is look at Tony. Romo only eighteen million dollars a year. You know at the college football so about you argue over another and I'm not. It's not my money five and ten million dollars but jeering then kind of only okay. I'm Asia Faira offer very fair and you don't WanNa take it. We'll just step back and they were just saying look. We're going to know what anti say fifty million dollars and we'll put that someone defects and help you you playing with fire. Because I mean being a cowboy and I hate to say this new as a great great value and being doubt and then the starting quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. You of all people should know avid having hailed twice living it late. You wanted to arrange because you felt you want what you deserve. They thought they would give you fair market value for money you will live. You will never get la and you end up going indie you talking about the Alabama Dallas. Now be here all at least not the player and I don't want to do this by how spinach being a quarterback of the Dallas Cowboy quarterback in the New York Jets Cincinnati. Being to be leaders. And we know that. I'm not telling. The mayor wants to do but ours is and I said look look at this very close and think about this because let's see Particularly and in the end he does son Steven John Green author. That's enough and we just leave it at that. We go Kirkland Minnesota and so Shannon Sharpe you realize that time that you're talking about Eric Dickerson. Had established himself as the best running back in all pro football he was dominating the lead and he was a sure fire first ballot hall of. Famer by the time that he was at his contractual stalemate with his team. So that's a whole different situation than a still young quarterback who is one into in the play offs. Nobody considers Dak Prescott even a top tin quarterback yet. Maybe he'll come to to prove that at some point but again as Eric says the author on the table of thirty six million a year with maybe one hundred ten million guaranteed is more than fair. But he understand. Ed Haven't played and understands contract. Contract is not what they're reading written to be. How much of that? Money is fully guarantee that not injured protection. Not if I'm on the roster at the start of the New Year because we've seen them start started the new year start cutting player agag early target and all that money guarantee targe earlier in Atlanta. You see what happened to linen fluent in Chicago talking about money for the New Year skip. I'm talking about money. That's fully guarantee when I signed my name. How much money am I getting? E D know how that work is basically the money that I'm going to get no matt come hell or high water. I'm they'll be able to put that money in my pocket and I think they keep if thirty five million and we're GONNA with guarantee. How much is fully guarantee of air? Rodney got about seventy nine million. Russell Wilson got about seventy million. How much of that is fully guaranteed? Okay Eric Dickerson. While we still have you. Let's go one last direction. You have called Tom Brady here on undisputed an old ask. The old man is now a Tampa Bay buccaneer. You have not been able to weigh in here on the show. How Will Tom? Brady's bucket ears do next year. Well with Tom Brady you always Evanston. Don't get the coastal areas. But you know can play in that offense can. He pushed the ball down. Field get can get a boost. Ahrends office you need a little bit. More time rate is forty years old uncle. Tom Brady Brady's forty two years on these guys would stand. Those can stand the play. You Know Tom Brady is not known for that. You know he's having leisure to sit back in the pocket personally. I think the box would do okay. I mean they have some weapons over there for sure. The office is pretty good. I'm not sure that the back because this is solid but you know. He's Tom Brady. He has with him also in a thousand red zone situations because it pretty tight him. But you know he's placing whether it's kind of like Lebron James. Wherever he goes they gotTA HEAD. You Championship. Lebron goals where he went to Cleveland. You Fall Championship. He goes to Miami About Championship. Tonight Lakers Championship. That's the way he can swing the pendulum of power with the the thing he did. I agree within. This is what I've been telling skip if you look at Bruce Arians opposites bear about pushing the ball down the field. Can he get Tom Brady to hold the ball nor longer than even normally and take unnecessary risks that? Tom Really never took in his previous office. Because if you look at James they put James and a lot of situation. That James is really reckless. What the Pope Paul. But they asked him to do things that they a order for you to be successful long term. You can't put the ball in harm's way like bruise area wants you to Tom. Brady is going to go twelve and four next year and you guys are going to happen to eat a lot of undisputed fried crow with with give give you do hold. I imagine the Super Bowl in Tampa if Tampa Bay the Super Bowl. I know goodwill will take down to Tampa Bay. I can't live with you. I'd say I know that Bill. No no no so. It's been a pleasure to have you on. We can't wait to get you back in the studio. We hope to be back in the studio soon and it will be much easier for me to school. Both you and Shannon say face then by Zuma's not trying to do right now. We'll reading a little bit after. Say Eating you definitely have the best backdrop. I'm sorry you win. What does that up there on the show? We will see you back hopefully in studio student minute perkins is siding with Lebron and the goat. Debate perk tweeted a side by side. Comparison Lebron having averaged more points rebounds assists and a higher shooting percentage in his last three finals losses. The Jordan had in his last three finals win so Shannon. Does this prove lover? Odd is go go the great job of highlighting kind of what I try to do. But I think the thing is ginny people again. And they chose them aside and they're not moving out that side of these are very compelling compelling numbers when you look at it he's averaging more points three and a half more points five rebounds five more and shoot a higher for Senate and he's losing these Games but I forget the being of looking at the other day the twenty fifteen sixteen and seventeen are ranked the highest opponents that either Michael or Lebron could possibly played Bible the talk seven that might they graded the teams but teams that Michael Play in the team. That Lebron play Lebron had five hundred seven. Now Mind you the twenty eighteen. The second year that Kevin Durant there they did he make now we know what Kevin Durant represents. That team did not even make it. Let Rica for just a second so another words. Lebron James and pilots competition has faced tougher up on this one Michael Jordan. He loved all these dasm bag that he loved the point out I just warning out stats and facts of what the what these articles that. Lebron James Competition and final have been tougher than magic of Michael Jordan in final. I mean I don't really know what you can ask. Commanded do a man average is thirty five Levin and ten and and he's Ludovic. I don't really know what else what you're GONNA ask a man to do skill. I really don't the article in question was on the website. Five thirty eight. That's what you read. I read that analysis correct. The overall premise was Michael. Jordan's playoff opponents were tougher than lebrons playoff opponents. That's because in Michael's Day. The east was the beast and Lebron's Day the east was the least. He had just easy pass. He had superhighways to the finals. I will give you that. Golden State was the toughest files opponent. Either Lebron or Michael Ever had to contend with I give you that but remember spurs remember. Lebron had his biggest meltdown against the Dallas Mavericks who were ranked by five thirty eight. The easiest finals opponent. Either Lebron or Michael Ever play the Twenty Eleven Mavericks Easiest Finals Opponent and the Chosen. One became the frozen one in that series. Michael never melted down in any series of any round of the playoffs. So now let's go back to Kendricks idea his panel that he put up on his twitter. It's so misleading because it's a bunch of Phony Baloney here's what's not included in those numbers and Kendrick. It was a nice try that you've failed again to make Lebron the goat he's the phony goat rated. Pg Here's why in the Final Bulls three peat. They played Seattle. Utah AND UTAH. The games were played. Much more physically. Then in the scores were far lower. The Lebron Golden State scores so are far more points to be scored against Golden State. Because it's more run and gun against Seattle and Utah here. The that average scores of those finals against Utah. Ninety three to eighty nine with the average score the first Utah Series the files. The files. That average funnel was eighty-seven then in these three peat finals against Utah. The average was eighty eight to eighty. So all the scores are down in the eighties. But guess what so the average score of those three peat finals for Michael? The second three peat was ninety two eighty six. He scored thirty five percent of the ninety points. Now you look at Lebron against Golden State. The average score of all three of those finals was one twelve to one. Three many more points scored by both sides. Lebron scored thirty four percent of those points. So Michael Thirty. Five percent of his three P. points and they won a Lebron thirty four percent of more points scored and they lost. They lost in six then in five and then in soar. They got swept Req- killed. But this is what. I don't understand why you never make that now. We're Tom Brady that. They don't attack the quarterback the why received more freedom. They throw the ball more. No no no I just WanNa know because every all you do is talk about whether the pace the style of pace Lebron. They're getting more shots. So this is why his number but you do that for Brady. You know what I'm saying. They don't attack the quarterback like they did in the seventies eighties nineties. You Donald say they cut and grab the receiver and the receiver. They're the defenders receiver. And they call you. Don't make that argument. All you do is highlight. What Tom Brady is doing? But every time I give you numbers about Lebron you try to highlight. Why he's doing it. You won't just give him credit. Say May this guy is great. He played unbelievable. You always try to find a caveat you try to find reasons to why again our audience is hip to Shannon Sharpe. They get it that. When he's losing an argument he always has to change the subject so all of a sudden owned the run with some cold hard facts and you say what about Tom Brady. This isn't about Tom Brady. This is about Kendrick Perkins trying to make a weak case a lame taste. That Lebron is better than Michael because some bogus stats misleading. For Analog with ROB would have made sure rick so in other words. Lebron James is really not scoring thirty five points to thirty five. Thirty five twelve assists or not. Is it ten rebounds? I just need to know if it is it that you know okay. Look I give you that. Scores higher scoring more points. I also gave you this if you remember. I've said this many times on spirit in twenty fifteen the greatest three games. Lebron is ever played his playoff lights games. One two and three of the twenty fifteen the first files against Golden State before they had Kevin Durant Lebron had lost Kevin love before the final started. He Lost Kyrie in overtime of game. One and what did he do? He put that team on his back and carried them to a two games to one lead with game sore in his house in Cleveland. If you win that game I'm going to be backed into a corner because you're going to be on your way to the greatest seat of your career. You by yourself are on the way to beating Golden State was Steph and clay and Draymond and for that matter and what happened in Game Four. Lebron spit the MIT or swallowed the bid on small his own house. He Shot Seven for twenty two that game. He went five of ten from the free throw line any disappeared and everybody told me back on. I take oh it just ran out of gas well. Odi is the latest athlete in Sports. That's all I ever hear Warburg George. He was running out of gas at the last laugh. Repeat which we say that my you dislike anything. Michael said there eighty one Michael say one way to TAP BAZ? Why he took time off. He was running out again. Would he say it? Call Him so he ran out of gas chain. Took all your behalf. All Happened Happen Kim yesterday did it have in. I want you to know that. I'm not saying that. Seattle or Utah in the last three. Pete were Golden State but they were really good basketball teams because Seattle that year had the second best record to the Bulls in ninety six when the Bulls were since Asia they went seventy two and ten and Seattle was one sixty four games and we're best in first best obviously in the West and then Utah was the second best record in ninety seven and then Utah tied the Bulls Ninety eight for the best record. So don't tell me. They weren't quality opponents. There was nothing underdog about either of those teams. They were really tough minded very good. Well coached basketball teams skill. If you don't mind me asking blazers how many hall of famers did it have on the Blazers? How many did they have on Seattle? And how many DID THEY HAVE ON UTAH? You'll mind me asking Clyde Drexler. One SEATTLE GARY PAY ONE UTAH to stock into below. Okay let's go to the Spurs. They got four. I have four. Tony Parker Monitor Nobly Tim. Donkey KUWATA winner. That's right skip that a lot as you always. Tell me that Tony Parker and Monir completely overrated there Broccoli. And they don't belong. They told me talk. Have to you to stop their first of all. You know Tony Parker going to the hall of fame because he would finals. Mvp models going to the hall of fame because those ring and if an international play he led Argentina to the gold medal. Going to two-time different player of the year to zero BP. Tim Duncan with write in top. He was writing the head of shacking Kobe. So Stop Stop here right now and go to four hall of Famer. A highlight of CD leeann returning upon high has gone viral. Where he makes several defenders before scoring a touchdown so Shannon theonest here? How impressive this from one to ten zero so you mean to tell me. Janney. There's a wide receiver a skill position player in the NFL. A wide receiver tidy and running back or defensive back. That didn't have an impressive playing high school out. Here you got to the NFL. Everybody plays like this. This is not unique. We're talking about this. This skill Henry had one game at high school in which he rushed for fewer than two hundred yards. So all the game between two hundred and five hundred and we're talking about port return. It's kept US Seymour. Impressive retards than college and the NFL. Highest COOL GIVE OUT NO. You're not impressed by this. Please tell me skill leave. Tell me you're not impressed by this. Leave Filming Shannon. You could already see it coming in high school. He could make you miss. Lord have mercy. I told you he's got wiggle as you see demonstrated. Look look at the make you mrs in this one wiggle plus power. I told you that he plays faster and plays quicker than even he was tied. He's very special as run after catch. I believe he will also return some punts. I don't know maybe even some kickoffs but definitely punts for the Dallas Cowboys. I told you the day after the draft he will change life in Dallas. And this early glimpse of what you're going to see next year I know is just high school. But that's pretty special. I've watched it seventy five times. Now Seventy six seventy seven. I can watch the rest of the day because I'm going to get you shit. Live this fall. Skip every player in the. Nfl was special in high school. You could see it coming. There's not one player in the NFL. Bill was not special in school. You didn't stop giving you a ridiculous. I can't believe you I really I wouldn't eh. I love it. Take me on ice called no way or making those big plays at guys. Enjoy the end of the last dance. Have a good weekend. We'll be back Monday.