Best of Giants Splash: The 1989 Earthquake
Hi I'm Greg Thomas host of the wild West podcast tune in for personal interviews with the world's top. Rock climbers surfers skiers ultra runners. And much more. If you like getting outside exploring you'll dig wild west. Find it wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome. Welcome to a special joint episode of the giant Splash and as plus podcast here on the thirtieth anniversary of a night at candlestick park that none of us. who were there will ever forget? I'm Henry Schulman. The giants beat reporter for the Chronicle and I'm in studio with chronicle features writer Ron Croatia on October Seventeenth nineteen eighty nine. We were both Oh candlestick to cover game. Three of the first and so far only bay bridge world series between the giants and the as at five Oh four. PM The bay area was struck by what what is now known as the Loma Prieta earthquake. A six point nine magnitude Shaker that did so much damage in the bay area killed sixty three people injured compounds in postponed the world series for ten days. This podcast is part of the chronicles extensive thirtieth anniversary remembrance of the Loma Prieta quake. Besides besides Ron and I. You'll hear from our colleagues John Shea and Bruce Jenkins who were there as well you can find. Complete coverage of our thirtieth anniversary remembrance at SF SF CHRONICLE DOT com. That includes an oral history of that night from candlestick compiled by Ron krawczyk including interviews with players executives. In the Mike including will Clark and Dennis Eckersley and we also have audio clips from others who Barrett candlestick chronicle non chronicle of the light. Hi I'm Greg Thomas host of the wild West podcast want to know what's going on with the world's top adventures checkout wild west where I recently chatted with photographer. Chris Burkhard who spends his life traveling to the most remote corners of the world. Some ways I always feel like. I'm just pulled the wool over. Everybody's is always told them like. I'm not good photographer by any means. I've just been the person willing to go to these places. You'll find my conversations with Chris and many more ride adventures. Wherever you get your podcasts wild west? I'd like to bring Ron in here. Now Ron how are you doing good. Thanks for having me thirtieth anniversary boy. I think that we're really this. Also be a podcast About the the aging process and how we're both kind of transitioning into senior citizenship young then we were both young and I was in my second year covering the giants. I was working for the Oakland Tribune. They made me a baseball writer. You're at the Sacramento. Beat now which year of that was was it for you. I was actually backing up. That was Susan Four Nas last year on the beat I backed up on the as most of that year and then took over the beat in nineteen ninety because I was determined only to cover you know. World series champions actually had five good years from nine hundred ninety four. Very the as you know very good team very interesting team full of dynamic personalities But I was writing sidebars during the postseason I was in Toronto with the as and the Al Lcs and then obviously at at the stick that Unforgettable nights and I I was I was the beat reporter for the Oakland Tribune and I it was my second year and I'd covered the one thousand nine hundred eight world series at the A.'s. Were in so. It wasn't my first Rodeo in terms of world series but it was a huge deal. The giants were playing the as it was a world series that people talked about as being not interesting to the people outside the bay area you know other than the fact that you had the bash brothers and the Pacific Stock Exchange Exchange. And you know we all talked about how the networks really didn't think it was anything that was going to garner much attention and then at five. Oh four it garnered a heck of a lot of attention and maybe you could just just. We'll just take turns here. Reciting are most vivid memories of that night. How about you were thinking you bring up a good point that I think it's lost in the history books and rightly so because of the earthquake but before the earthquake hit at least here in northern California? That was a big deal. I mean it's literally a once in a lifetime thing for the as and the giants to get in the world series. I mean I grew grew up in Chicago never happened with the cubs and the White Sox didn't happen to New York until what two thousand and of course New Yorkers thought that was a big deal so it was a pretty cool event sporting event in those that context before the earthquake struck and then obviously acquired a whole new dimension. I was actually sitting in a very small room beneath the upper deck. And I'm one of those makeshift media. workrooms eating a box lunch that we're all used to and going over some game notes and getting ready not a good place to be if you think about it. I mean cement ceiling probably eight ten feet high. Thank God candlesticks stood but my vivid memory is looking up and seeing Tony Kornheiser and I believe it was bill conlon of the Philadelphia Paper freaking out to east coast guys who hadn't been through earthquakes. They they did the right thing. They were in a door doorway and held. But I mean to me. It didn't initially feel any worse than any number of earthquakes we had gone through as Californians. I'd moved moved here at age twelve so I've been through a few in southern California and then a couple of my college days in Berkeley So at first it didn't seem that devastating. And then you start hearing the buys and you go outside and you see some cracks in the upper deck and you know we're getting out about the bay bridge and such and it obviously was a whole lot worse than than a normal earthquake. Yeah I mean my first memory was that I had agreed foolishly to speak that afternoon at a luncheon of a Rotary Club in Oakland and I just remember driving to the the Rotary Club. Lunch in the game was supposed to start at about you know just after five and I just remember thinking to myself boy this is GonNa be a long day. I had no idea and You know the earthquake itself. I mean well first of all it was it was a big deal like you said and The the giants had gotten smoke. The smoke them in the first two games stewart and Mike like more pitched jams the giants. I think scored one run total in the two games and there really was a sense that now that those two pitchers were out of the way that the giants at home actually had at a shot to win. This is completely aside of course with a ten day break with the World Series Stewart and more got to pitch again and That's all she wrote. The thing I remember most is is the press box itself at candlestick. It was really just a football. Luxury box That had that is converted to a press box during the off season. It had some tables but had these big you know kind of fluffy chairs that you sat in and you really couldn't move in them and the press box itself at candlestick it was connected to the upper deck. Structurally you didn't worry about it. But it's still kind of hung over the lower deck. If I stood up and looked out my window there was nothing below me other than people in the lower deck and you had the sensation that the thing could just fall apart and would go diving down into the into the first deck back and I had been through the Sylmar earthquake in Los Angeles when I was eleven years old in one thousand nine hundred seventy one. It was a quake that It was over a seven. I believe it was was a seven and actually killed about seventy people in a brand new hospital that collapsed and I just like you I. It just didn't seem like it. was that big an earthquake but I do remember all the East Coast Writers and mid the midwest writers were trying to get out of these big overstuffed chairs to try and get out and they just couldn't move and they kept running. We knew each other. And I remember Nick Peters of the Sacramento Bee the late Nick Peters and I remember him yelling as loud as he could. Don't panic don't panic and then of course yes I heard just like you did like everybody cheers from the crowd. You saw that Famous picture of a fan holding up a sign. Saying something like if you think that was something wait till the giants hit And then my first notion that there was not going to be baseball was when I looked up and I saw that the lights standards were out and that the scoreboard org was all jumbled and I think a lot of us We saw really quickly that the action. The news was now all the way onto the field Did you ever have a sense going to be baseball. One senators quake-hit not really know and it was hard to understand it. I what was happening because you know we're so a accustomed to instant information in twitter and cell phones and none of that really existed at the time so you didn't know right away. One of the people I talked to for the oral history you mentioned was George Kosta. WHO's the head of security and operations at the giants And he said they were trying to put together information in the immediate aftermath around around that police car right behind home plate And one of the you know they kind of said okay. We don't have power we don't have a PA system We don't know when the lights are GonNA come back on or if they're gonNA come back gone and that's when they started sort of going through the list and realizing even before they heard the extent of the damage throughout the bay area. He probably wasn't practical to play a game with sixty thousand thousand people In that facility and who knows about aftershocks so they sort of made a very rational Decision after a a conversation about the situation in you know and and ended up Postponing the game fairly quickly after that and of course the people back home really had no idea what was going going on Because the the broadcast which was just starting was the pre-game show It got cut off and you al.. Michaels was one of the He was one of the announcers. He was the announcer was on the air. let's listen to our colleague John Shea here. At the chronicle he was working for the Gannett papers at the time including the Marin Independent Journal He talks about that briefly at the end of this short remembrance so at five Oh four. PM I was visiting my editor in the last row right behind the plate. I add a bird's eye view of the entire stadium so when the quake hit I saw sections the ballpark. Shift away from other sections of the ballpark. Like the thing was about to come down. There was silence from the crowded. I in then there was a sense so hey that was an earthquake. And we're GONNA be okay and then loud applause like let's play ball. Well no I grew up here so I've been through few of these and none like this. I mean I was not applauding arrest down the steps to the press box behind the plate and tried to check in with the office US then I went down to the field. All the news was happening down. There players rushed out of the dugouts and club houses because they felt safer on the grass and their families families came on down to join them the faith incident. The commissioner at the time was in his cart police everywhere one with a blow horn telling people what to do a police car on the field Didn't it didn't take long to realize the magnitude of it. All and fans to their credit filed out orderly. I was on the story throughout the next day. I was at the Saint Francis Hotel for Candlelit press conference in Catalan walking up those stairs at the entrance. Listen into the room. Where Vincent laid out a schedule? There'd be no baseball for a while. Obviously and the giant state town and waited it out in the as were we're a little more baseball oriented especially after losing the eighty eight series to Gibson and those guys and they flew to Arizona to work out for a couple of days. Of course they were better anyway and more focused and finished off the sweep but I remember a few east coast writers who vowed never to return though I saw at least he's one of them. Come back for the two world series giants angels so yeah just reflect. The quake hit a half hour before the game was to start. Sixty thousand thousand folks. Were settling into their seats. Willie mays was set to throw out the first pitch. The Gatlin Brothers for whatever reason were going to perform the national anthem and of course those watching TV were into the pre-game show ABC which was showing replays of game. Two Day Parker pulling into second base with a double and then their screens began to lose reception and Al Michaels was heard saying. I think we're having an earth. Yeah that that clip at the end there with Al Michaels sort of become iconic. Now you talk to Al for your oral well history remembrance which you can see on. SF CHRONICLE DOT COM. What did he say about that? Well it was interesting. He has more bay area background than I realize. As I knew he had announced for the giants for three seasons in the seventies nineteen seventy four to seventy six And he told me he lived in Menlo Park at the time and actually stayed in Menlo Park after that when he went to ABC so he lived in the bay area for about twelve years so had some history with familiarity with the area and also with earthquakes. He initially really thought it was kids. 'cause the broadcast booth Much like the press box was sort of tucked in between the upper deck in the next level and he thought it was initially kids heads banging bats above him because the floor of the upper deck was directly above the broadcast booth. That was his. I thought but very quickly when they start when the the stadium ADEEM started moving. You very quickly realized it was an earthquake. As you mentioned Tim. CARVER was commenting on the video. Highlights from game to Dave Parker had doubled in a run Parker's coming in the second on the highlight they're showing Cans Saco scoring then going back to the dugout. And that's when the earthquake hits it's and they lose the picture in Michael's interrupts macarbre say we're having an earth and that's it and that's all he said quake but it obviously got Covered up by the static and the loss signal But michaels was interesting he he. In addition to living in the bay area it described himself as a map freak so he had all the above San Francisco above Paris above New York maps so he kind of knew not only the bay area area but he knew it from a visual from overhead perspective which became relevant because they had the blimp there for the world series. They sent michaels down to the production truck and he basically told the blimp where to go and he provided the commentary and analysis as the blimp was showing the Bay Bridge Judge. The Marina Michaels had lived briefly and Cyprus structure in Oakland so michaels was explaining to viewers. This is the bay bridge. Even though so people in the Midwest and east thought of the Bay Bridge as this majestic thing between your boy island and San Francisco and Michael's explaining this is is the rugged side of the bay bridge between the Treasure Island and Oakland so his background in with bay in the bay area became relevant when he actually was nominated for news emmy for that coverage that night. You know Obviously this was before cell phones right actual phone communications wired phone. Communications were really cut off. It was hard to get a hold of anybody and there was no internet. We we really didn't know what was going on until all a couple of people in the in the ballpark in the press box. Even some of the fans they had this thing called a Sony watchman I have to you know I I mean and I have to explain this to our younger viewers You couldn't just watch. TV on your phone They sold these. It was it was really quite a big deal at the time. The Band Walkman was the the Stereo that you'd listen to music. The watchman was a little TV that had about a three inch screen on it and it worked worked with an antenna so you could actually see broadcast not cable but broadcast and that's how we got our first pictures that the bay bridge had faltered that one section and then of course more shockingly the fires that were consuming the Marina district and then even more shocking than that the site of the Cypress restructure having pancake and and of course at that point. We had thought that there were hundreds dead. I believe the chronicle headline if I'm not mistaken of the examiner actually Aronie Asli. The next morning Said said something like hundreds dead because they base that on what the traffic would have normally been liked at five o'clock and of course. Traffic was lighter than usual. People left work doc early so they could go home to watch the world series and you know there were many many fatalities in the dozens of course but it was a lot the better than it would have been a had there not been a world series and that was our first real sense for sure that you know that baseball was not going to be played in thoughts just started going going through your head about. What are they going to do with the world series? I mean You know and that became an issue. We'll talk about that later. became an issue Down the line what to do and then we just you know realize that again. The story was on the field. The players were on the field They were you know they had brought their families out there. There's a famous picture of Terry Steinbach the as catcher comforting his wife. Who is in hysterics? There's another famous picture. That was on sports illustrated of Kelly downs. who was giants pitcher? And he had his. He was holding carrying one of his nephews off the field that became the cover photo for for sports illustrated the following week. We we gathered up all of our news. We talked to the players. We talked to the stadium officials We both had to write about your situation. But communications with the newspaper newspaper was almost impossible. and you know once we had gotten a hold and talk to all the players and you know we got all our news and we had to write it on our really rudimentary. The Memory Radio Shack laptops You know that that became tough in itself. Because they kicked us out of the Ballpark and I think you and I both had the exact same name experience on how we wrote right. I remember them saying okay. We need to evacuate and some of these coast writers or other writers honestly east coast host but resisted because they had a right and I remember thinking fine. I'm Outta here you know. I didn't want to be in that building I mean my. I'm happy that the one phone call. I made two phone calls one of the office but I I called my mother to assure that was okay. And you're right. There were very few phones available but then when they said evacuate the Press Fox. I'm good I'm gone. Don't have to tell me twice. Yeah exactly and that because the parking lot if you think about it the parking lot seemed like the safest place in the world to be right. Nothing was gonNA fall on you you so yeah I had the same experience you did. I went into the parking lot. Found my old the Toyota Corolla and wrote my story by the Interior Light. Probably draining the battery artery. But it worked because I had like you gathered reaction In the BALLPARK. And and Nick Peters and I Susan Foreign off and others from the be Contributed should be to our coverage. So Yeah I wrote my story in the parking lot I think I dictated from a payphone in San Mateo Because I had been assigned to go on on the peninsula look for damage. Someone else was in the city downtown so so it was a a memorable night I Dunno if you remember Bob Cohn who was with the Arizona Republican time He was a friend of mine. He kinda latched onto me He had nowhere to go so he came with me and rode with me. The same thing he wrote in my passenger seat and we drove around the peninsula and then a friend of mine lives in Daly City. We went to his parents. House slept on the couch that night. Yeah you know the kids can Google payphone phone while. You're also googling Sony watchman you can see. He's older than me. I just want for the. I'm older than than everybody. Yeah I actually wrote my story in the front driver's seat of my Datsun. B Two ten and Alongside of me in the passenger seat was Dave newhouse who was one of our columnist almost for the chronicle I also put the interior. I'm sorry the Oakland Tribune. I also put my interior light on but I also turned my engine on my dad was a very good car repairman and I knew rudimentary things. Like if you don't turn the engine on the battery is going to die and other writers who evacuated actually sat in front of my car and used my headlights to write their stories and teamwork. Yeah so one crazy thing happened We had there was TV. Truck there. right where we were all writing writing and they happen to have one wired phone line and you needed a phone line like that you can you connected up to send your story in an analog fashioned and it took about two or three minutes to send a story now it's instantaneous. You email it and it's a millisecond but then it took about two or three minutes to to send your story it was also taking taking about like ten minutes just to get an open phone line so each one of us was it was taken about thirteen minutes person and we were taking turns and this one radio guy who is still working in the bay area. So I won't mention his name and he. He does a lot of radio for Latin America. He does writing and radio and TV for Latin America and he got his turn on the phone and he wasn't saying anything nothing was happening and it was one of those situations where they're back in whatever country they were in that he was talking to a Venezuela Venezuela or the Dominican or somewhere in Central America. And they said we'll get you in about ten minutes just stand by. And when he told us that people started going crazy and they told Oldham to hang up and he said No. I'm not going to hang up. It's my turn and Somebody actually went to the phone. Put his finger on the the little button hangs up the phone and clicked it and I thought we're going to have a fistfight Fortunately there were no fistfights. Now you know driving home from that we of course had a lot of time to reflect and one of the things is that you know we we came to realize was that the infrastructure in the bay area was it was just dead. I mean there were there were power outages everywhere you. You couldn't cross the the bay bridge. Our colleague Bruce Jenkins who had just been named a columnist for the chronicle not too too much earlier He gave his remembrance remembrance to us on on that night and talks a little bit about what it was like in the city that night It's Bruce Jenkins from the San Francisco. Chronicle I had just gotten my column with Sporting in green a few months before and I was up in the upper deck when the earthquake hit and the thing really almost remember most is the sound coming before it hit us. It was his tremendous rumbling. Sound coming from the south heading our way and nobody could pinpoint what it was. Accepted was getting increasingly. Frightening as it got to us and then next thing and overall rocking and rolling up in the upper for deck and I remember. I was standing right next to a guy named lyle. Spencer from the New York Post to I went to high school with played basketball with wrote on the school paper with in Santa Monica Way. Back in the sixties. And we're looking at each other like we're going down. This is the big one and it was pretty frightening to be unable to control your body and watching things sway back and forth but eventually calmed down and there was a lot of cheering and everybody thought. Hey this is great and then the reality hit home very soon when people came to realize what was going on around the bay area We had Several people on the field talking to players and I took it upon myself to Get back to the chronicle office and transport a couple of very important Sports writers along with me. Ken Rosenthal the Baltimore Sun and Tom Boswell The Washington Post. They were very grateful to get a ride down third street to the chronicle which was a heroin trip in the darkness and there are some pretty menacing characters out there. Look like they were bent on mayhem and when we got to the city I remember Tom. Boswell saying where are we. We were in downtown downtown San Francisco with no lights and that was an experience in itself so we met her way into the chronicle building For some reason that we had complete power outage here The third floor was not accessible. assessable were on the second floor with emergency power in extremely dim light trying to hammer out stories on laptops from the war of eighteen twelve and and it was really really primitive creative and as it turned out we printed just an eight page edition for the following morning. There was only one sport story kind of a staff conglomeration and the work that we did Ernest cornices it was didn't appear then the following day we were still dealing with a power outage and a bunch of US managed to get some pieces into a sixteen page chronicle that appeared the following day and that was It was it was definitely an adventure trying to to pull off something like guess with basically no assets but no. We were all rewarded that we're able to do something and you know basically felt lucky to be all in one piece As opposed to some of the horrors does that were unfolding in in the bay area. Yes in a darkened city That's where all the reporters that's where the teams all came to try and find out what what was going to happen to the world series and and we know obviously that It was sort of secondary to the all the the damage and the death and injuries in the city Baseball was relatively attuned to that. And you and I both had a very bizarre experience. Probably the most bizarre press conference that that both you and I had been into five incident had just become commissioner of baseball upon the death of Bart Giamatti the sudden death of Bart Giamatti and he held a press conference inside a ballroom. Home at the Saint Francis. Hotel with no microphones. No lights no anything. It was actually a candlelight press conference you remember that absolutely will after right you know done my duty and San Mateo on Peninsula. You know I slept at my friend's parents house on the couch. Daly city got a few hours. Sleep came to that press conference difference on as it turns out as I learned in doing this oral history preceding. The press conference was a candlelight meeting with Vincent and Bob Murray and the Haas's they were talking about what they were going to say the president's what they were going to do and Mayor and the police chief apparently kind of burst into this meeting and said I'm not going to be able to send anyone to candlestick to inspect it for a while right. And and the and the well. Not only inspecting the ballpark but also The police required for a world series. As I think that ultimately was why they made the decision to postpone the world series You know at first there was talk about canceling all together which had had that had never her that it never happened and they were talking about canceling moving it out of the year? We're moving it out of the area right finding a neutral site and You know the police the lack the say we need our police elsewhere. We need we need all of our People elsewhere and ultimately the decision was made to restart it Ten days later. And I I got the sense And I don't think this is an original thought that you know that at a p at by that point ten days after I think that people wanted the world series they I needed the world series as a as a diversion to You know sort of sort of get back to baseball now. The giants as had two very different ways of approaching this The giants held these workouts at candlestick everyday they played a couple of simulated games I remember having to take the ferry from the East Bay to get there To to get into the city because of the bridge but the as did something completely different And I did you. Did you travel down to Arizona with the as I did. Not because like I said Susan Foreign Office still the beat writers. I just think she might have But they had talked about doing it. You know within a day or two after the quake sort of realized it was too soon and I think waited awhile. I don't think they went bound for five or six days. Might have been that weekend right because it was. The quake was on a Tuesday. The seventeen th. The series resumed Friday. The twenty seventh which I think we can say given the detachment detachment of thirty years was inappropriate delay. Absolutely my Dad always tells me about the NFL. Starting playing games two days after Kennedy was assassinated. And how horrible no decision. It seemed at the time and it looks even worse now you know given the power of time and detachment so I think baseball made the right decision on many levels the the practicality of not having the police officers but also the respect for the victims and and you're right at some point life needed to go on but not two days later maybe ten days later and the as Were credited for bringing taking their players away to a warm weather place where they were free from the distractions. I'm not minimizing. What happened to the people who passed away and and the damage and the injuries but From baseball since those were distractions and actually in your oral history. You Talk to Sandy Alderson. He told you something interesting from a baseball fan. I I couple of things. First of all he said The Night of game three which I never heard this until recently Steve Kroner actually talked to sandy in contributed contributed to our story That they weren't sure Bob Welch was going to be able to pitch You mentioned you know Stewart and more had had shackled the giants and the first two games and as it turned ironed out Stuart Moore came back and Games three and four given the delay but originally Bob Welch's scheduled pitch game three but apparently he had strained his hamstring. A few days earlier shag ing fly balls and batting practice so the as were not sure at all he could pitch in game three they were going to let them warm up. See how it went and if he could pitch Kurt. Young who more recently has been the giants pitching coach but was on that a staff was gonNA pitch that game So that I had never heard that before that I found that kind of interesting and the other point sandy made about about going Arizona was that he thought at some point. People were going to get past the earthquake. It didn't seem like it immediately. But he's right. Eventually you move on. And he wanted their fans to remember world series victory. You know that thirty years later as we hear we stand in two thousand nineteen that people were GonNa remember the outcome almost as much as the earthquake. Maybe not but certainly people remember that the as role to victory so that was part of their thinking and to their credit. You know Dave was very very involved in the community efforts here and they sold ten. They sold out Phoenix Municipal Stadium and donated all the money earthquake relief so I think they did it in a in in a respectful way and they played a couple of inter squad games in in Arizona. Much like the giants did at candlestick. And kind of got away from the the mayhem or the Uncertainty here in the bay area for a couple of days and then came back and obviously finished off finished sweet. Yeah there's a revisionist history that If they had gotten to play an uninterrupted world series the giants would have no. You're shaking your head. No no giants were a very good team. Diana's team once they acquired Ricky Henderson in June. It's one out of the best teams of all time. And and you and I covered the eighty nine reunion this year for the giants and I talked a lot of the players and they they all said we were GONNA get smoked. One way or another I will tell you the Sir my one of my lasting memories of my life not just of you know that series and the earthquake was when they did resume before game three at candlestick when people were filing in to a ballpark that actually stood up extremely well. The the damage that had occurred to candlestick was it was cosmetic it was like there were some. I mean. People said there were holes that you could look down from the upper deck but that was just the expansion joints doing their jobs and swim and moving back and forth which had the effect of maybe pushing some of the concrete stairs stairs out. But that that's cosmetic that that was not structural. I'll never forget this and and really it. It may be the only time I ever remember crying at a baseball stadium. Liam was when vowel diamond and the members of the beach. Blanket Babylon show They came out onto the field in full costume and Sang Sang. The Song San Francisco which was from an old an old movie and You Know San Francisco Open Your Golden Gate etc.. And that's that's when you you know how it is when you have you know ten. It's like riding a bicycle. You have ten days of this. You're just working working working and you didn't really have a chance to kind of fully appreciate. She ate what happened with this earthquake. And that was the moment I fully appreciate it And I just kind of broke down a little bit in the press box. Now I had mentioned earlier that Terry Steinbach wife in that iconic picture was was crying and he was comforting her but she came back and you actually talked. Talk to her At the You know you actually talked to her for the oral history story What did she say I did? Yeah I mean I know the Terry pretty well from my days covering the as and Mary was always around very sweet person So she had the the the reason behind that was they only have three children three grown kids now but they only had one and child at the time a two year. Old Girl named Jill who usually came to the Games but they decided to keep with the babysitter and Alameda that night Just because it was the world series and want what the distraction of a two year old and so they couldn't reach her you know and they were there for Minnesota and and they were unnerved obviously by the earthquake and ah even though they thought she was probably okay. They couldn't get a hold of the babysitter to confirm that. So that's wise. Mary was so upset. She didn't get Terry said she didn't get hit by brick. She didn't she wasn't isn't physically injured at all. She was just unnerved by the uncertainty of it all And that's why that picture became sort of famous and the funny little story. I'll tell on that or she told me two things one. Her three kids as they went through middle school in Minnesota would take earth science class and they would learn about earthquakes and and in each of their three classes they would be shown the video from the world series and they saw their mother crying hysterically. Oh that's amazing so. She actually apologized to her kids because her kids became very self conscious about this middle school right seeing her on the video and the other thing is she did go back to the world series ten days later when it resumed and she walked on the wives bus US and all the other wives gave her an ovation because they weren't sure she was coming back but she realized after ten days. You need to be there. Wanted to be there to see Terry the NBA's play and it was just sort of emotional. Momentary Reaction Yeah you know and I mean obviously the as have not won a world series this since and You know the giants went on to win three. That remains a very iconic moment In as history when I believe the final out was it was a ground ball to first that The ball was thrown to Dennis Eckersley and he caught the ball and celebrated as she would celebrate. One thing. I do recall. You can tell me if this is true or not. True this is was I do know that the giants and as clubhouses houses were They were next to each other They were you know the two doors were about ten feet apart in the same tunnel down the right field line and the one thing that you know. I don't remember hearing was a lot of screaming the whole Champagne Party and what we were told and I think what was written was that The the celebration was a little bit subdued just because of what that world series represented and for the people who lost their lives said it was that all right yeah. I don't recall specifics but I do know it was subdued. I believe there was no champagne. I believe there was nobody spraying champagne. The way traditionally is done and that was I think ink on order of the houses the owners who are very civic minded and community conscious and and it was an awkward line to Balance Right. Because that's a big achievement achievement to win the world series and they hadn't done it since the run in the early seventies and to be their cross bay rivals So they had to find a way to kind of celebrate respectfully and I think they did and it was kind of subdued and the players You know the the players didn't know how to really handle it. I mean it was really you know. untried ground at that point but But it was definitely muted because of the circumstances. Yes right but I mean that was a great team and you know I think some people thought that the championship was At least a little bit You know tainted because of the ten day delay. I don't feel that way. I think the as were the best team in baseball that year as they were the year before when they lost the world series to the dodgers and They certainly deserve the championship We'll listen Ron. This was this was a great shot and I wanNA thank you for for for joining us on our giant splash as plus podcast and This is going to be an interesting day here. Remembering the thirtieth anniversary of the Loma Prieta earthquake quite thanks Henry. Thank you for listening to this. Special giants splash and as plus joint. podcast make sure to visit. SF CHRONICLE DOT COM for or are extensive coverage of the thirtieth anniversary of the Loma Prieta earthquakes. And we'll have more podcasts. As the off season continues giants double plays part for the San Francisco. Chronicle podcast network. Audrey Cooper is editor in chief. If you like this show please subscribe Tele Friend or give us a review you can support the giants double play in a lot of great journalism. 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