Listen: Family of Shamima Begum, ISIS Teenager, Says Britain Plans to Revoke Her Citizenship
"Home secretary has made an order depriving Shamima Begum of her British citizenship. She's the British teenager who ran away or one of them from her London home when she was fifteen to become a so called Islamic state bright in Syria. She's just had a baby the question is. Of course, what will she do? Now, Dow Babu is a former metropolitan police chief superintendent who is a friend of the Begum family, and he joins us live now on the program. Great to have you with us. Good morning to you. First of what does the family been saying? Quite surprised that they should happened. There seems to be some concern about the ecology of the home office decision. She does not have dual citizenship. So effectively she stripped of citizenship. She's be stateless. Well, there is of course, the issue of Shamim is mom having a benefit is being a Bangladeshi national. And it's believed to be the case and under Bangladeshi law. Shamima then is a Bangladeshi national doesn't that give her Joel citizenship? Legally incorrect, there's no guarantee that the the Bangladeshis will be prepared to accept her as a citizen. So I think the make this option and actually if she today she could government refused average citizen, then she will be she will effectively become stateless. So legally if that happens what happens next in the magically have the right to return. Well, she she remained spacious at the government. The lawyers are challenging the government decision. So the government I think this is a knee-jerk reaction by the government that company I haven't planned ahead in in real what's going to happen with the returning fighters from. Icees families from ISIS and Dave now seeing the public uproar and have played to garrison made the nature decision. I think you'll be legally challenge. And there's no guarantee that the government's position will be upheld in the family has been quite outspoken that they want her back that they're going to take legal avenues to challenge. The home. The home secretary's decision has the family actually spoken to her yet. Details about what what what are the communications that family had what why would like to just remind listeners to. The reality wa- watch when she initially was a grid and radicalized she effectively you had a fifteen year old child who is being. Been radicalized. And the police knew about this the school about these entire council were aware of this. And despite that they didn't share that information with the family. In fact, they gave a letter to the girls takeover decided I wanted to interview the individuals and surprise surprise letter. Never got to the paddock's. Wisconsin the school's back. So we country failed in safeguarding somebody who's been radicalized. And when we say, we talk about jihadi, brides sexual abuse. She went there a fifteen year old girl within within day issues ninety a man almost twice right? This is not normal behavior. I think Jamaica is is was brainwashed. And she was brainwashed over the internet. Do they take the point just the family take the point though of what the home secretary was saying that the priority is the safety and security of Britain and the people of Britain, and that Shamima Begum could potentially be a security threat. If she returns. I think the family except there's a legal process to go through. But there there is several hundred individuals from ISIS area coming back to this country. I think that does appear to be an element of planes that kind of race with actually looking at the legal process the legal law. So there's a lot of some sumptious here that the Bangladesh is just gonna except somebody who has never been to Bangladesh ranks. I want to bring I want to bring you view of guests that we had earlier for Musso any rack were obviously, you know, I the so-called caliphate was announced these people have lived through hell as he put it as Allie put it. For us under the so-called Islamic state. And he's watching this from Iraq saying, I just cannot understand this. This is someone who chose to go and join a so called Islamic state knew exactly what they were up to new exactly what they were capable love didn't show remorse and now is asking for a second chance. What about the people of Iraq? What about the people of Syria? Well, I think. Even organization and tie, basically butchered demoted people. Shimmy shimmy knows part of that. She was a fifteen year old girl that was groomed. And and the authorities were aware the police the school the Tammy's council where where she was being blamed they didn't share that information with the parents, and he was only they gave her letter to take home. I think I think we shouldn't lose sight about the failings of the was in terms of safeguarding. And I nobody is gonna question. No sane person. You're gonna question Caesar's an uneven organization. But the reality was she was a fifteen year old girl old child who is being groomed on the"