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"That's not really socialism. Socialism is more like Venezuela. And then say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, socialism, isn't like Venezuela. That's just that's that's not socialism. It's like well. Okay. You don't get redefine. Socialism every five minutes to fit your particular needs. Here's my definition of socialism. It is the dictionary definition nationalism of resources top down command control of the economy and seizure of enormous amounts of private private wealth for purposes of redistribution. That's what socialism is. Now, you can have a mixed economy with drops of socialism or socialist programs topped stacked atop a capitalist superstructure that's largely have in Europe. And then the question becomes ten the stilts of capitalism, hold the giant elephants of socialism longer than a few years. But to pretend that socialism itself is not a threat as a full-scale system. That's just sort of something that people do is really I think kind of dishonest. But according to Bernstein, Jared Bernstein over at Biden's campaign. He says the real debate is about who gets to write the rules and Trump in the conservatives are legitimately scared that a growing group of diverse progressive politicians backed by divers base, that's fed up with its lack of political representation is threatening to take. No, that's not what this is about. Right. So again, this is a recasting of what socialism is into what it isn't. So they're saying that what concerns are worried about is that the people who run the government are going to be black or Hispanic or young or something. No. We are worried about is that people are going to try to run the economy at all. We don't want humans running the economy. We want the economy left alone. So people can make a free and open decisions as individuals. It's not about who runs. This thing. I don't want anybody running this thing. It's one of the problems. I have with the Republican argument that we should restructure the economy from the top down for the interests of particular populations. Right. You hear this on sort of the populace, right? Have just as much of a problem with that. As I have with the left proclaiming that its version of corporatism is an inherent good. So Bernstein says there's no question that Representative Alexandra Okaz you Cortez. Bernie sanders. Elizabeth Warren, and many other progressives want policies that push us up the continuum and put my own cards on the table, I hope to help them. But what's at stake is not the ownership of the means of the production. As the Wall Street Journal editorial board ominously warned when you look at the actual proposals. It's clear the goal is simply as Paul Krugman put it to have a market economy. Both extreme hardship limited by a strong social safety net and extreme inequality. Limited by progressive taxation. That is not socialism. Well, then why are you objecting to our current system? President Trump that's what we have. We have a very strong social safety net in the United States. And we have an extraordinarily progressive taxation system. Far more progressive, it should be noted then the Scandinavian countries, which basically have an enormous flat tax. And then this guy says single payer healthcare provides an instructive example is he no progressive plans for universal coverage that turned the private healthcare delivery system into a public system. Kamla Harrison literally suggested two weeks ago that we should abolish private healthcare insurance in the United States. She literally suggested that Bernie Sanders supports it as well. Sherrod brown. The Senator from Ohio he came out and supported the same thing. So again, they're moving the goalposts over and over and over again, if you want to analyze whether the capitalist economy can Ken survive a little more redistributionism here or little higher taxation there. That's an argument that we can have. But if you're an argument, but if you want to argue that socialism full-scale is not a threat that's idiotic economies fail to the extent that socialism is true. Tried end of story, socialism, simply redistributes the gains of capitalism in the most in the most anodyne and least offensive version in the most offensive version socialism sees the means of production from the top down controls. How the economy works in every aspect and does so for the particular benefit of a select few socialism is indeed the same threat. It always was and if you put a happy face on it, it doesn't make it any less of a threat, it makes it more of a threat because it makes it more palatable to human beings. Okay. Coming up. We're going to get to President Trump yeti dueling rally with beta O'Rourke over in El Paso. We'll get to all of it in just a second. This is the Ben Shapiro show."