"There's a movie now called the public which I think everybody should see it's about a public library and sit in that takes place with the homeless people that are there. But why should I talk about it? When I have the director writer producer and star. You must be exhausted. Amelia, I am. I am here is anyway Amelia. Thank you. Thank you for being so much extra. So you know, we talked a little bit before about how you seem to disappear in the right people who are interviewing now are always saying if that was the last movie you made was the breakfast club. Right. True. True. His back in the library after thirty five years. Imagine that they never thirty five years. Yes. True. But you this one really did take some time for you to get launched. It took. In fact, this week is the is the anniversary of the twelve years that it's where I began this this this started April first two thousand seven it began with the LA times arriving at the house. I open it up. I read an article written by librarian who was retiring from Salt Lake City is named chip ward. And the piece was about how libraries had become defacto homeless shelters and Halliburton's were now tasked with being first responders and effectively being defacto social workers. And so I was really moved by the piece I had done the bulk of my research for Bobby down at the at the downtown branch public library. And so I went back to the library to see if it wasn't fact every bit as bad as. Mr. ward was talking about. And of course, it was not localized to Salt Lake City. This was happening in Los Angeles and in really every urban library across the country. And so I started imagining what it would look like if the patrons most of whom were homeless and some of whom are mentally ill. What if they stayed in old fashioned sixties protests? What would that look like on a particularly cold night? They decided we're not leaving how would law enforcement react. How would the press spin that? And how might oh politician who is in the middle of an election cycle. How might he use that event and change their for political gain? You hear about that? And you think oh, there's a sit in its the public library, and I'm not knocking any documentaries that are made about it. You know, who wasteman or actually his great. It's about this. But in order for an audience to be paying attention. You can't give them a sermon and say you can't. Should be doing this. No, it can't be didactic. It can't you can't beat the audience over the head. It is. I didn't make a what someone called a kale salad kill salads. Good free. And you should eat it. I don't want it. Yeah. So so I think this is more like a gluten free cheesecake continue to food analogy wanna see that post. This movie is a rule in free. She. But but we've we're on a thirty city tour. I've taken the film from Seattle down the coast cross the country, we screened at libraries at at at the convention Llabres convention in New Orleans. We did it in up in Seattle at the at the midwinter conference screen it for a homeless advocacy groups screened in homeless shelters, and what's what has been so gratifying for me as a filmmaker is to watch the story unfold for the people I made it for this movie celebrates the misfits and the outcast and the marginalized and the poor and they're seeing themselves on screen and there. Wow. That's that's me. That's and it's inspiring them. They're feeling empowered as they see it. And so that is ultimately who I made the movie for so it's it's been quite a ride, and I believe worth every bit of the twelve years that I've invested in in this like. Just because how many days did you actually have to shoot it? So will you know? What it takes to take independent movie this day and a half? Right. But it takes twelve years to get exactly you're in twenty three days. Again, was I had to be very well prepped, and it was a feat really of the editor of this film because the movie has an enormous cast. And it had we had to make it look like they were all there at the same time. And so you reach out the Jeffrey. A lot of the more are now. Right. So Alec Baldwin. You've got for five days Jeffrey Wright comes in and out of shooting Westworld. And he's got six days and Taylor shillings in the middle of doing oranges, a new black and she's got four days. So and you're looking at everybody schedule, and you're thinking don't they understand don't they get it? But actors they don't unless you've directed. You. Don't totally understand what the director is is going through trying to make all that. And I don't bring any of that stress to the set. I don't they never know what's going on"