Self-driving cars are still going to take a long time, people


A few years ago I visited a super promising company called Lanar which makes light our technology or light detection and ranging. It's the technology that helps autonomous cars. See the world around them now luminary is going public it plans to enable autonomous driving on highways, but only on highways by twenty, twenty two, it's kind of like what Tesla promises with autopilot accept less human intervention is required. Austin Russell is CEO and founder of Luminaires. He told me. Yeah. Getting self driving cars working in cities is really hard but autonomous highway driving is easier and cheaper. You'll actually be able to get on a highway with this enable autonomous mode. You know take your hands off is off read a buck, use your phone work on your Laptop Watch a movie, take a nap, and then a couple of minutes before the final exit of planned manual take over to drive to the final destination we're talking you know cost on the order of one. Thousand Dollars as opposed to one hundred, thousand dollars for these kinds of autonomous vehicles. That's something. They can actually put into a consumer vehicle something that you could buy this approach though has also been referred to as kind of mushy middle of automation. We've already sort of seen people over rely. Let's say on technology like autopilot not take control when they need to this feels like it almost even increases the opportunity for that like straight up go to sleep on the freeway and the expectation is I'll wake up in time to take my exit. I can kind of see where that could go wrong in a hurry. The main difference between a level two assisted driving system and an automated driving system like in this case, it has end end functionality within a given operational domain. That's really what is there you know ultimately, it's up to the OEM to determine the specific functionality and domain on the day specifically determined and fully tested and validated over these areas ukases to be safe in you know I. It doesn't necessarily mean that initially every car that you buy, we'll be able to convert a transformer into asleep pot. I understand the technical difference. That, you're describing between autonomy assisted, driving I suspect most consumers will not, and we actually know that most consumers use us to driving in a way that is frankly closer to. Drivers would behave if they were expecting full autonomy, you know. But. It feels like a distinction without a difference and. Then anything that goes wrong is really highly publicized. Does that ultimately hurt adoption you know does taking a stair step approach make the long-term adoption. Less likely because there's a lack of trust. The answer is as it relates to systems day right now absolutely I mean the the amount of folks that are calling assist driving systems autonomous right now I'd say it actually happens more often than not. You know in described inaccurately than accurately and. It will an has posed challenges for sure I, mean even for the you know for the various accidents that have happened today, all of these systems are because. They rely on a backup driver to be constantly paying attention because he would be getting an accident left and right. If there wasn't anyone paying attention, they don't pay attention for some finite amount of time. That happens to be that time when they didn't need to be and then it gets an accident and either leads to some kind of serious injury or fatality, which is extremely unfortunate. It gives the whole autonomous vehicle space of a bad name for those things. It's like, okay. Well, why didn't want to prevent it? Well, it wasn't designed to do that was not the purpose of what that technology is in this current state. So there needs to be a very clear distinct difference I. Mean. That's why when we're talking about the deployment of this kind of system. It really is an has to be before it's deployed otherwise, it just won't be deployed. Safer, than human level capability in the operating domain that is defined to be in, there has to be very clear lines very clear distinction. I don't think to be frank. There's a huge use case for us the the level to assist driving systems that are out there today I think it's to be frank a little bit gimmicky in the sense that. It kind of as you said, lows you into a false sense of security that you can. Kind of you know take your hands off relax. The reality is, is that just like when you're driving at any other point anything can happen at any moment you have to be ready to take over at an instantaneous notice you know on average it'll maybe only give you a a second heads up. Before, you actually need to take over. So I think that's where there needs to be a fundamental shift there needs to be very clear distinction and when you're operating in autonomous mode. With, our sending system software on the car that's where you know. On average would be safer than human level capability that that's the baseline level of what's needed to be able to see this through. On these vehicles. So in that respect domain. I feel like when we talked a couple of years ago you were the guy who's GonNa. Fix It all and I wonder like why not just kind of go all the way? Why not be the person who solves the urban autonomy problem why not release the full end end solution? The way that it is, this is the entry way into the long-term vision around you level for five rebel taxis. The main challenge though is there has to be a commercially viable application of the technology in the near term to be able to really ensure this industry get successfully realized from a data perspective if you WANNA be able to successfully deploy something outside of one specific city you're. Going to need a huge amount of high quality data including this three light our data everywhere around the world we'll have our own fleet out on the road giving data back to be able to better inform the system, and that's the kind of foundation. You can build a global scale urban Robo taxi system off of not just the near Trump Lauder Austin wrestles CEO and founder of luminaires her.

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