"KCRW sponsors include net. Flicks presenting the love me when I'm dead chronicling the last years of Orson Welles life the genius behind citizen. Kane. It's wildly entertaining while full of nuance and depth directed by Morgan Neville, only on net. Flicks. November second I'm Kim masters, and this is the Hollywood breakdown joining me as Bellamy of the Hollywood reporter, and Matt Finally I mean, we sort of expected this for a while but net flicks finally finally is cracking after trying to get into the awards race in a real way for a while. Now, they really want this, and they have in a very I think serious contender in quirones Roma, which is a black and white film very much in art house film. I would save as having seen it very much a film, ironically that you would wanna see on a big screen. You cannot make a movie with Cuaron if you don't bend or an artist like Koran if you don't somewhat bend to his will. So netflix. Has said they will let this movie run exclusively in theaters some theaters for awhile, it's a concession and their couple of other films in this category. But let's focus on the big one for now couple of other films in this category. They're going to allow this with it's a concession. I'm not sure that it's a really fabulous concession. Well. It is a big deal that Netflix, which has steadfastly stuck to this party line that we are releasing movies on Netflix worldwide the same day that we're putting them in a few theaters. That's the key here. They're moving three movies from the exclusive day and date on Netflix to invaders for about two or three weeks in advance and a few theaters. And the message here is that Netflix wants to play ball with elite talent and get into that Oscar race, which they have been unable to do. And is this going to make a difference? I don't know. But it is a big concession from. Netflix to go away from what they? I have said is their model all on net flicks to giving this the window which will allow those audiences to see it in theaters. I'll tell you what I think I think that net. Flicks made such a fetish of this. And I understand they were launching something, but movies are movies, in some cases. It really does matter as I said Romans one of them, I think that they made such a stink about this that certain theaters don't want anything to do with running their movies. They still don't want that relationship. And I also think this is a small number of theaters fifty around the world, I think is the number, and I'm just guessing you've got an otter like Koran and he's not the only one that is going to seem like not enough. Now, you could say, you know, this will be was made without Netflix money and net flicks, then acquired it in in a way made it possible for the world to see it. And you could say many people do it's better to be seen on screens. You know, more people will see it this way. However, I suspect that not only will the theater is still largely shunned it, but an artist like. Warren will say, you know, this really is not enough. And next time. I'm not doing it. Well, not if he wins best picture, which is gonna pour millions of dollars into campaign to win him best picture, and they believe that by putting it in theaters in New York and Los Angeles and couple of other big cities. They will have a better shot at winning best picture for this guy. And you know, it's it's the push pull it's a huge global audience that Netflix can provide. But they don't give you that theatrical push that many filmmakers want, and to me, the most interesting thing here is Netflix is drawing a line. They're saying these three movies are worthy of the releases. But if I'm a filmmaker that has a movie at Netflix, I say to my agent, where's my theatrical release where why am I not getting what L fonds Roan or the Coen brothers or the Sandra Bullock movie? They're putting in theaters why why am I not getting that? So you're going to see I think people like Guillermo del Toro who has a movie project. Net flicks. Michael bay whose movies are gigantic transam erred. But but Michael bay is used to getting his transformers movies in four thousand riders on opening weekend in the US, and he's gonna make net looks movies. You know, you don't think Michael Bay's going to ask for the window, and yeah, I do actually. And I think that if it does win. Yes. Maybe he will be satisfied, but it may not win because net flicks. Thank you, Matt. Thank you. That's not felony aditorial director of the Hollywood reporter. He joins me this Monday at two o'clock on the business. I'm Kim masters, and this is the Hollywood breakdown this podcast was made by public radio station. KCRW our status as a nonprofit enables us to make bold and unusual programs. But we need your support to keep it that way donate or become a member at KCRW dot com slash join. And thanks."