Listen: Dwayne Haskins, Cuyler Murray And Kyle Murray discussed on Thursday Night Football - Jaguars at Titans
"He will be joining us instead acts out an hour from now lock on, of course, in the NFL will get to it. Talk about the Alex Smith situation. And you know, like when you really think about it and you break things down. The NFL season. This year has been so. Interesting in the sense of all these teams are so flawed. There's not one team that sticks out to you that you say they're the best. Clearly, they're the best. You could look at the Rams and say, yeah, offensively they're the best. But my goodness. Their defense is atrocious. You bring the Kansas City Chiefs. You can look at the. New England Patriots in the AFC. Same thing. Offense is pretty good defenses. Nothing to write home about right chargers. Do you trust the chargers? No, let them prove that they can win big games until then I don't trust them New Orleans Saints. Okay. Yeah. Pretty good. Right. What happened against the Cowboys? I know isn't Jerry's world. But still if New Orleans is that great shouldn't they score more than ten points rack up more than one hundred and fifty yards of offense. And shouldn't they went on, you know, on the road against a Cowboy's team? That's not that. Great. Yeah. And the excuse of wealth that games played in New Orleans Owen by two touchdowns. Okay. It's great. But. They didn't win on the road against the Cowboys by do touch even a touchdown. They lost by three teams. Kind of makes an interesting one get the college football here because the Heisman Trophy voting is going to be done. And of course, Saturday it will be announced three quarterbacks are going to New York Dwayne Haskins of Ohio State and. Cuyler Murray of Oklahoma to attack Ovalles Loa of Alabama. For how many weeks so have we sat here and thought to ourselves. This is too was award right? Two is gonna win this award. No as not. But after watching the last couple of weeks, and especially in the SEC championship game where. Tag away. Loa threw a touchdown in two hundred exceptions and look over all the the numbers this year. Really good thirty-seven touchdowns foreigner sections completed close to sixty eight percent of his passes on a team that went undefeated. That's that's really good. No question about it. But I'm not so sure it's so cut and dry now that to a tiger Loa is going to win the Heisman Trophy. Tell you right now. I don't think it's so cut and dry that he's going to win the Heisman Trophy. In fact, we know that ten percent of voting was done early. And you can assume at that point that to a probably got those votes. But the other ninety percent you may say to yourself not so fast Dwayne Haskins ended up having a flat out ridiculous season completed seventy percent of his passes lead college football of close to forty six hundred yards passing forty seven touchdowns and eight interceptions. Staggering numbers forty seven touchdowns and eight interceptions Cuyler Murray just won an award and he had a incredible season as well Cuyler Murray. Seventy one percent completion present through for over four thousand yards forty touchdowns seven interceptions and ran for a ton of yards as well. Right. Tough to argue with him. The guy ran for eight hundred and ninety two yards this year total yards. He's nearing five thousand also eleven touchdowns for Kyle Murray. Fifty one touchdowns seven interceptions for Cuyler Murray on the season. When you take the throwing and the running. Pretty flat out ridiculous. So no, it's not cut and dry that Saturday when it rolls around Cuyler Murray and Dwayne Haskins. They're going to be spectators watching this. Watching tiger will go up there and win this award. So I'm just telling you, I don't know who's going to win this award who should win this award. I used to think that it was to about a mile. I did. But now that I've thought it over I. You know, here's the problem though. Kylo Murray plays in a conference where they play no defense. The big big twelve plays. No defense whatsoever. None ridiculously bad. So the numbers are going to be someone inflated because the fact he's playing in a God awful defensive conference. So shouldn't that be held against him in the sense of? Okay. Yeah. You're putting up these huge numbers. But look who you're doing against and. Ultimately, you put in the big twelve he's got to put up huge numbers to and maybe can even say that about the, you know, the maybe look will Greer's in the big twelve and he put up ridiculous number thirty seven touchdowns eight interceptions. So guys do in that conference. But when you look at Wayne Haskins in the big ten, okay? Yeah. He he also benefits. The fact that the big ten was kinda down this year. But Taegu by Loa is not a running quarterback. So he's not going to overwhelm you. A statistics running the football. Alabama's never had a quarterback win the Heisman Trophy. Is this going to be the first year that we actually see that happen? Is the sentimental favourite because he's been kind of the front runner for so long. And he's got that great story having come into the game last year in the second half of the national title game leading Alabama to victory, but does Jalen hurts coming into this last SEC championship game and leaving Alabama victory over Georgia. Does it hurts? Does it hurt him to a point? So just. You know? I don't think it's so cut and dry anymore. I'm confused. Right. I'm really confused. I am this. Maybe it's a good thing. By the way, that I'm confused. Maybe it's a good thing that it's not like ho stories been written. We know what's going to happen. We know who's going to be the guy. Now, not the case. What is the prize? You've Cuyler Murray wins. No, maybe the surprises Dwayne Haskins. Right. I think the expectations Dwayne Haskins finishes last in the voting, but he's the odd man out that he is certainly going to be the spectator. I think that might be legit. But when it comes to, you know. Tagger by lower or Kyla Murray. It's not something that is so easy to understand. The awards have been given out in two and Cuyler have split the big awards. So tag by law receives the Maxwell award for the player of the year Murray wins the Davey O'Brien award as the nation's top quarterback at the college football words in Atlanta. So one guys the player of the year. The other guys a quarterback of the year. The Walter camp award for best player goes to tackle vilo. Berry wins AP player of the year. So Haskins wins nothing. So I think it's fair to say that Haskins probably is going to be the guy that certainly finishes third when the results are announced. But when to and Kyle Murray are splitting all the other major awards. It doesn't pay to any sort of a picture as to what's next the ultimate award the highest been trophy. So I'm actually intrigued. That's the funny thing about it. Like, I'm actually in treat. About who's going to end up winning that Heisman Trophy? I hate the Heisman Trophy presentation. I really do. The darn thing takes forever, right? It's like an hour long show has just announced somebody who wins, and it shouldn't take that long. And they have to say who's here in attendance, and blah, blah, blah. And they have to talk about each of the candidates just give me the damn award. In twenty minutes. Doesn't have to be our one hour long. But I'm gonna watch because I have no idea ultimately who's going to take home the award. And that makes it intriguing that makes it fun that makes it worth it. And if Cuyler Murray wins it I'm not going to sit here and say to a got robbed, and if Taghavi low wins it I'm not going to sit here and say that Keiler Murray got robbed if Dwayne Haskins win wins it I'll say both tag of high Loa and Kyla Murray got robbed. I think that's the fairest way to look at it. Because I think the least deserving of the three is Dwayne Hoskins because tiger by Loa goes undefeated Murray at least loses to a top twenty team in Texas. Meanwhile, Dwayne Hoskins couldn't lead Ohio State to victory against Purdue. That's gotta count against you in a negative manner. Major league baseball winter meetings are about to get started. Couple of signings. More rumors wears Harper going on the Yankees really pursued a Machado do the nationals overpay for Patrick Corbin. Why answer those questions next and in about fifteen minutes. We'll talk with their buddy Scott Miller national baseball columnist for Bleacher report. He's going to join us at the top of the hour. 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