"One hundred nineteen Friday January the Seventeenth Two thousand and twenty Mac and the bushfires continue here in the stray although there has been a little bit of response that still large to bushfires that merged into one mega bush fire. That's still burning on New South Wales Victorian border and a lot of devastation elsewhere. Elsewhere and amazing thing is people as I mentioned there last episode Markham people dig in and dig deep palm when when when tragedies happen Am happening here and practice. I remind sponsors for the podcast of all been contributing and Doug from microchips. Australia has To Saad it has he said to me the name. I'll put an money where matthews and then dieting every Every micro-chipped Louise sold in January. will be will be tarnishing a percentage of that carrying to the bushfire relief and and route from if ten chemical central's said lots of ten packs out there into the field to help sterilize. Horrible wins and trade ties. 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And I'm really proud to be associated with those people who do impractical and and immediately beneficial things for the animals in the wild so yes and as we discussed discussed affair before we started recording We will be planning on talking about the bushfires next week. Is Emma in topic. I'm unless things I I pay sharpton. Something happens with the Internet's and we can't record makame but that's the plan for next week so make sure you're listening to next week. We'll discuss I guess. Some of the thoughts about how we might have touched on a little bit of politics on we talk about politics. And she'd upon cosmic. We sort PINTA. And we'll talk a little bit about what's well. What's what's happening in Cambodia? Recover from they sent Jay if my throat Santa's sounds a little bit croaky Amal cranky than usually. I'm not surprised because again as we talk you mad before we started recording was at saw this on into. I'm doing a little bit of maintenance on the House and where the Quality here in Melbourne Matt was absolutely terrible tonight. Nothing They Evan reported that it was the Western Australia Drier and second worst in the world at the moment today and has played a little bit but it was shocking and was actually quite surprised. Is it when I briefly went down the shops. I saw numerous paper with face masks on mark. I'm trying to trying to themselves. What are we going to talk about today? Mac Mac. WILL I. The first thing I wanted to touch on was a review brandon. I wanted to just. We both have seen recently. A movie and I felt we might just bounced some thoughts around about the joke movie. What did you think Brennan the joke? Well it isn't the GYGER is it. Is this just joke and I I. I absolutely loved this film I love to I know no. It has been polarized inside. I will be very interested in your thoughts on it and as you know I've been pretty new and probably need to go and say it and I think you ended up watching it. Renting it strained at Heim was that correct. That's correct yeah. We'll raise them why I loved it is they said well I'd fit. It was dock and Tuck and dreary up for a lot of it but it it spoke to me a lot about the issues that are brought up a bat society and mental health and the lack of support for people with mental health issues and it basically followed the deterioration here isolation of of one person and that was your convenience applying joker and It was an amazing Tint well performance that I think of winning the Oscar as well as lots of other awards for that too with shocking to say how much white he'd lost for new lost about thirty or forty kilograms to do the power can part and he said it was good because a mighty angry mark took the time that the get up in the morning. He had signed few calories. I watched him in an interview that he was always fine. Teen need just got so angry at the world and I think it fit a mighty performance all that much better but Tampa I loved it. Might what did you think I was. I was always was in two months when I first saw it. I was it made me sad. It was really a A sad movie and it was. It was remarkably complex for you know what essentially is a I am you know one of the Superhero. That's right A cartoon gene come to life stall maybe what superhero movie. It was remarkably light in complex but it was some. It wasn't inspiring or it as you say it spoke to the the filings of society in this particular Caricature Eric Caturla development over Over the course of that deterioration but tom founded a little bit. Come on no heartbreaking working. Well so did I suddenly found it disturbing and depressing and and as you side as probably great summary for but I think it was a portent movie advocate. Something that People who are thinking that guy into superhero film End Up going and saying and then thinking high. I be talking a little bit about some of the problems that we need to deal with in society and maybe the Bible her ended up tying all that crap I wanted to because he wrote movie And I didn't get it then. Perhaps at so I pin so polarizing but now also it was an excellent fit. The acting was extraordinarily by them. The mind carrying today So and it was basically a monologue. Wasn't it no is really just one film about this one person with all the Monaco Characters Iran and it was just this one person and the deterioration into into into madness. Basically what did you give it brandon. Well I have to give it considering. How now how poor I think most of these days I'll have to go to nine point? Two mark nine point two out of ten. I think I think that's an entirely face score or I'm not going to disagree with you. I think there's not enough movies that That sleep outside the the the the dominant Paradigm Natron Citron. Stay with what successful and I think it's excellent that they That they tried something different and and it does work in its own way. I M Good Ed just briefly before we get onto our topic. Did your lovely wife. What would you you see Dayton? And there's a we watched it between It's a long movie I think yes we watched it. We started watching heightened Normal time to head off debate is about between thirty and nine and it has to be a very special movie invariably Eh for ninety percent of babies that we begin to what I kite will have to chase the end up at another time but this movie kept her awake and asking asking questions so I don't think they can be a higher writing for Maga dwarf excellent. Well let's jump into the mind topic have takeaway for this one mark. But you suggested this particular topic. And it's one that some. I'm sure you've done plenty of surgeries for this particular problem. And that that is foreign bodies in parrots in particular Biswas. MCI Think Motor what we typically do when we have an Ivan gene type topic. And then I will quiz you on the topic and you can far off your words of wisdom back to me. What is a bizarre? I love the way you pronounce it. a It and I'm sure you'll correct but I've long pronounced it B.'s. All these Anyway someone someone should write to us until this the critic correct pronunciation of these oil is I am affordable a a handful maybe some sort of indigestible fibre that's turned into not And ended up in the guts of some animal so they they are the sorts of bezos but the one. I wanted to talk that today is is one that I see. Surprisingly commonly in Avian Practice Senate to be honest. It's a little bit distressing that I do say it so of because At least a proportion of them which will talk about lighter A very very serious and often Life affecting sometimes life ending ending problem so so yeah. I thought it was a good idea for us to touch base on this topic. Brennan let's jump into Basil's mark of To Death Hindia India. The most common pronunciation is Biz. Also I stand corrected with this. We'll play some of the other pronunciations ca shins as As a put put myself in Paula's fall you're answering questions so typically As I always what percentage of them would you suggest Just clumps of of of the guns that you That you mentioned or do do we get all sorts of things in there that can end up causing a blockage. Well that's an interesting question because I think like many of these sorts of things. They're a multifactorial Event We definitely they have a process. Way The m the got stoned move normally so some buds who might be don't have normal contractions attractions. They more likely to get them. But for most of our normal parents who The sorts of animals. Would you know take shreds of plants. Listen droppings around the place and generally make Amiss they pretty good at Passing what they swallow and end they definitely will Swallow some indigestible FOB. In small amounts along with the The more digestible foods a but they don't as a general rule. I don't see significant numbers of wild birds with this problem. It's largely Booed problem I think the key thing now. The key contributing factors these access to artificial fibers to things like non-oil One of the Pali fleeces. Those sorts of artificial fibres access to those Definitely makes for a problem. So is that why you you particularly want to talk about it in parrot. Have you seen in non parrot species of birds. No I have not So most of the non parrot species species that we would say would be the pass rains which say dating birds. Maybe some of the Soft bill birds but they're unlikely to have the same aimed degree exploratory an investigative behavior that parents do And so even when they do collect indigestible material fobbing. They might collect that for making. This stole some such But they unlikely to ingest it whereas pats and particularly nesting testing parents particularly female parents They will definitely You know try to perfect their environment and I think I think this this strange thing that happens particularly with Rainbow Lorikeets That they they probably get multiple they get stimulation of several different sorts. Win They perform this behavior they They definitely get a good sensation station. Tidying up their environment And particularly those reproductive females will get an endorphin release as a result but I also think it may make some of the Allo praying that these bids on wall. It's not directed to a companion. I think they also get Those positive neurotransmitters squinting into the Brian when they do it because it mimics some of the sensations of La Printing. So I think there's some powerful addictive qualities to this and so when birds way particularly state commonly cockatiels and Ryan Beller cates when those birds have access to those indigestible fathers And the two primary sources shrouds Maybe a blanket or something that's been tossed over the top of the cage wjr at night to provide darkness and insulation And Dame things called heavy hats now a highpoint get us into legal trouble with a commercial name but the the Um triangular-shaped choose That that is sold in many pet stores as nist sants forbids Their police fleece fiber a very very common source of of these fibers. That trigger the problem buds. All I think we should do without them in to at triangles while that's an interest is doing after that one Denmark So what are the signs of but a parrot that has has one of these days is in. Will these two important points to make the first one is that the Basil's like heading to they can be located in two spots. The first one is the the crap the first sort of dilation of the ESOPHAGUS way food is stored and the second one is the is the the first of the two stomachs pro ventricular us now.."