"Three fifty nine. I'm Ben FOX Ruben. I'm Scott Stein. Today. We're going to talk all about mixed reality headsets, and the Microsoft's hollow lens to which Scott got to check out in Microsoft's headquarters in Washington starting off the new headset is three thousand five hundred dollars is expected to come out later this year. Yes, that is a lot and it's targeted toward business customers, not consumers. That's the thing. So in that regard. Why is it important for consumers to know about it? Well, I don't think it's important for consumers to know about it. I think it's important for readers who follow tech to know about it. I think exactly know that this is not something you're going to buy and Microsoft's not even trying to fit that role. But it is showing where all OB connected things are beginning to digitally merge. It sounds kind of vague. But basically, a is also just as much about things connecting and and going into the cloud. Microsoft is a believer in. That a are is essentially that reread sensors, and so in that sense. It's interesting we're going to start seeing a lot more on phones and Holland's two does work with Android, and I was going to down the line. What was it like using it? So I've used all the big air headsets, and it feels a lot more comfortable than Holland's. I think feels more comfortable than magically. I think its biggest differences are that has I tracking that feels very fast and responsive the first Holland's didn't have it magically as I tracking. That's not implemented in everything. Explain to me actually notices where you're looking and it can if you start flooding your is around you'll you'll be able to see cursor if included to show like looking at this button and not only that but it can also do authentication for windows. Hello logging. So which they Microsoft does the most secure way. So being able to get your experience on a headset using that for for for logging in for security, I laugh because secures a lot of questions about logging in. It's a question of where the data's being stored and in the long run what how much is being tracked about you. Because Microsoft also says that this consensus of motions through your is weird. But also as hand tracking. So you're not using a controller, and that feels nice, but it also doesn't give vibrational or haptic feedback. So okay. That's they let's step back for a second and answer the question. What do you do with it three thousand five hundred dollars? Like what were the demos? Like, what is the supposed to be used for Microsoft demos were all really technical in the sense that they were just showing like here's here is it is that it works or here. It is that here's I tracking. Or is what it's like to pick up. Something is what it's like to collaborate with three people and see somebody standing on virtual hill. Nothing. And there's one demo that was probably the most practical which was about how to work in a shop where there was a real ATV or a model of they set up this tool shop with real objects, and I was guided around with a new app called guides. Got to they pointed with three D aero pick up this wrench now come over. Here is like a three d LEGO experience. And now, I'm learning step-by-step how to do it or feels like turn by turn maps for the real world was easy to follow? Like felt like this was the most like like really applicable use of like teaching you how to do something to fix a machine. It is interesting to follow. I found it was easy except sometimes they didn't seem to exactly blind point. And my question was if you make essentially the wrong turn on a map if I pick up the wrong wrench how to correct? Yeah. And right now, it doesn't sound like there's a there's a clear plan in place for that. Or they're looking at that. But I think that's a really big workplace question. Also, how much you absorb the information because I kind of blank out unturned by turn, you know, how much do does it change what it means to be in a workplace where you're getting that door. You're actually getting training. That's interesting as to just going on autopilot and letting the machine tell you there's. This. Yeah. So that's that's a knowledge absorption question. Which again, Microsoft is sort of sounds like from talking them looking into. But there are no clear answers yet. So let's let's also bring magically into this conversation. Interesting about magically, and you've also got test that out that's really trying to focus on entertainment. Right. Whether it's gaming or experiences. It is this is totally different than what we're talking about. Where this is like like a business environment. Microsoft is connecting through all their cloud, apps and windows ten and really wants us to be connected and Azure to be useful device magically has no answers for that. And is trying to look really artists and creative experiences challenge. There is that still a two thousand plus headset doesn't work with glasses. And but I appreciate that. They're taking wild creative ideas. I think there's I think they are the Microsoft's the egos right now, and they're sort of between the two you gotta fuse magically their graphics might actually be better based on the chip inside. But. But I think it's a little clunky to put on although the Holland's to headset is larger and more expensive. So no one's really crack the answer to this yet. But you can see that the kind of working on parallel to different elements kinda parallel pads in some way. Plus, there's if you wanna get really deep in the weeds, the Qualcomm announce that there are these USB plug in air VR headsets that are glasses that will work with five G, Qualcomm phones. Good grief. Yes. So, you know, who's using that, but those could drop the price and with things he put on almost like headphones that the phone all the powering for if that really is the case, and maybe like what magically has with tethered pack that becomes your phone. The headset gets less expensive. Maybe it's more like that for something that everyday everyday person would use I saying quotes, but we have to see who would use this. And why that's exactly it. Microsoft is field workers people who can't who have their hands. Otherwise occupied also questioned the military contract. So all of those things and high end industrial us. All right. Let's we're we're going to have to call it for now. But really interesting stuff if you want to read more about these stories check us out on CNN. I'm Ben FOX ribbon Scott Stein. Thanks for listening."