Oscars still so white and so male

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I'm Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown joining me as Melanie of the Hollywood reporter and Matt had emmy. Awards are upon us of course and once again. We have a controversy controversy The so white movement started in two thousand fifteen that really shamed the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and sciences into trying to become more more diverse And here we are again with very poor representation of people of Color and women in various important categories so so the Hollywood reporter did something really. I think spectacular. They looked at the progress that has been made and hasn't been made in trying to diversify. I trying to represent the population of the country really in the Oscar. Nominations and awards right because over the past five years. The academy has been openly openly and aggressively recruiting inviting diverse. People or trying to and the question we asked was okay. So how is it working and the answer is it is working but the numbers are still very very depressing. If you're looking for a more inclusive academy for instance. The academy is still eighty. I four percent white. It is still sixty eight percent male. Those numbers are a lot better than they were. Seven years ago when the Academy was shockingly early ninety four percent white and seventy seven percent male. But it's still not very diverse electorate. Yeah I mean I think what was so. Striking was the conclusion of our colleagues Rebecca Keegan and A person who did data analytics for us. Benza Zimmer is they could keep going forever try at the program that they're on trying to reflect what the country's population is like but they started from such a place of Whiteness Whiteness. maleness that if they if they keep this up they will never get there right and it's interesting because when you look at the breakdown of the member that had been invited over the past five years. The numbers are actually pretty good. I mean fifty. Three percent of the actors invited over the past. Five years have been non on white forty eight percent of the directors invited over the past. Five years are non white however the numbers were so bad going into this that it really only. It's like putting a drop of food coloring in a bathtub of water. That's a good analogy. Also you know there are people sort of say. Well you know the best movies we should win and we should be colorblind. But when you're talking about people who see things from us. Generally speaking specific point of view whiteness maleness. Then that informs informs how material is received. You know that it doesn't necessarily read with Equality if you're looking from a specific cultural perspective and you know and I know Matt. Ah You know Hollywood is a club and people tend to be you know somewhat slow to put it mildly to expand the membership in the club beyond the academy. I think it's really interesting to read this piece. That is just running the New York Times where they talked to a bunch of filmmakers and individuals at the academy and various people most of them black lack of about the Oscarssowhite movement. And how it reads today and you really get a sense of how there was this moment where everything seemed so great for a year or two we know and but I thought it was really interesting for example that Berry Jenkins Who had the Oscar winning movie moonlight you know. He felt like if they hadn't made the efforts they made. Maybe nobody would have ever bothered even watching it in the academy and it wouldn't have shot so that was on the positive side and on the negative side is here we are again and we just ran what we call the brutally honest Oscar ballot which we do a series of where people are non. Asli talk about their choices. And you know you read what I read. Yeah I mean these are cringe-worthy sometimes this voter who is an older actress. Basically said that she thinks that the Oscars are in American thing and that an American directors. You should win so she was not going to vote for parasite which is a South Korean film. And that really shows that we can say you think the best movie should win except in some cases on less that's right and then maybe not thank you matt thank you. That's Matt Bellamy editorial director of the Hollywood reporter. He joins me this Monday at one. Thirty on the business. I'm Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown.

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