"The dumbest management fad of all time. That's a quote from Jeffrey Jones, contributing editor at Inc magazine in an article that talks about the research from Harvard that found that in fact, open plan offices are bad for productivity. The reasons they state that people tend to Email and text each other a lot more in these environments than in a traditional environment, traditional office environment and the reasons for that our couple guess Polly's the privacy concern, you don't want other people listening to your conversation or overhearing your conversation. The other part of it is you don't want to distract the more disrupt the office environment. And that's something. I spoke about back in it beside one hundred thirty of this show where I felt that for me open plan offices are a major productivity kill because I just get to easily distracted. I'll go to sticky Nuys icon help listen into other people's conversations. And so it turns out now that have a design these things are actually reality for the same reason. Video conference calls. Don't really work unless you've got a private room set up for it. So the short answer is open plan offices tend to kill productivity because it actually discourages people from face to face interaction, which is a little ironic considering the whole point I created really was doing courage more face to face interaction. The other thing, of course, in an open plan office is you've got that sort of social influence around you because everybody's always watching what you're doing. And so a lot of people, of course, trying to busy when in fact, maybe they're not maybe they need some time to design out. And really think about a problem. It's how to do that plan office eve everyone's looking at you, you're worried the boss things you not doing your job. So next time if your office where you want to get rid of your open plan office environment, the boss wine, have it drop some names on him. You can drop Trent that might not do it. You could drop Jeffrey James, the contributing editor from Inc magazine, also may not do it. But if you drop a Harvard study owning pretty hard to not bag that kind of research. Anyway, that's just my thoughts. Agree open plan offices bad idea or thanks for tuning. I"