Trouble Church Browne


On this episode five minutes in Church history, we are talking about Robert Brown he was an English separatist t was born in fifteen fifty and he died in sixteen thirty three. But we've titled This episode Trouble Church Round because that's what he was known as by those who didn't agree with him and those that he tangled with throughout his life. So I'm sure you're intrigued. Let's jump right in he studied at. Cambridge. University and there he fully aligned himself with the puritans he came under a puritan influence. And he sided with the puritans against the Elizabethan forces in the church, of England at that time. Now, the puritans at that moment were attempting to reform the church from within and Robert Brown was part of that movement but by the end of the fifteen seventy. So he began to realize where he decided that that was not the right path to take, and so he gave up on that attempt to reform from within and he decided to separate in fifteen eighty one he is credited as founding what would be the first congregational church. He was the first to officially secede, and we need to realize that he's about thirty years old at this time as he's doing this. Well, he was arrested, but he was very quickly released and within a few months he left for the Netherlands. There in fifteen, eighty, two married he married Alice Allen and together they had nine children she died in sixteen ten. But he married her back in fifteen eighty to fifteen, eighty three. He wrote his book by this title, a treatise of reformation without tearing for any and of the wickedness. which will not reform till the magistrate. Command or compel them. In this book which is really small tract actually he puts forward the notion of the separation of church and state. He believes that the church is not ruled by the monarch by Civil Magistrate, but the church is ultimately ruled over by Christ himself and churches. A Matter Church membership is a matter of private conscience and not a public mandate were law enforced by the magistrate. The Queen was over the civil life and over the magistrate, but the church separate from that, and so this is a very important book in the history of ideas, very important book and political philosophy and in the history of the church. And the first paragraph Robert Trouble Church Brown says it is marvelled an often talked of among many why we should be so reviled and so troubled many and also leave our country we talking there about himself and his fellow dissenters and how they had to leave their country. He continues for Suth say the enemies there is some hidden sing in them more than plainly appear with for they bear evil will to their Queen Elizabeth into their country. They, forsake the Church of God and condemn the same and are condemned of all the also discredit and bring into contempt the preachers of the Gospel in other words these dissenters are something wrong with them. They're against the Queen there against the Church of England, and to that Robert Brown says, we say that they are the men which trouble Israel, these preachers in the Anglican Church. They seek evil to the Prince and not we. And that they forsake in condemn the church and not we. Well, that was Robert. Brown in fifteen, eighty three but in fifteen, eighty five, he decided to go back into the Church of England. So after about five years and after his book which caused many ripples in England he went back into the Anglican Church he wasn't a total conformist however, and he often clashed with the church and its leadership has said that he was arrested thirty two times over the course of his ministry for his views. He did end up in the East Midlands in a small little village Thorpe H. He was there from fifteen ninety one until his death in sixteen, thirty, his followers, the Brown lists you might have heard of them made their way onto the mayflower and cross the Atlantic. Well, that's trouble church. Robert. Brown the English separatists I'm Steve Nicholson. Thanks for listening in five minutes churches.

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