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"How To Cope During A Crisis" with Therapist Sharon Ellenbogen

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It's likely that our listeners have spent a thousand hours reading and listening and watching news focused on the escalating numbers and cases of deaths in different cities. And we'd like to focus on the other side of that crisis that we haven't really addressed enough for our listeners. And that's the psychological aspects and how to deal with it there's so many aspects of this situation that causes stress and grief for even the most resilient us should. We discuss this crisis in terms of the five stages of grief. Yes I think that really is appropriate because everybody has their own responses to this prices so the stages of Grief Art denial bargaining anger sadness and acceptance. And they're not linear. There are some people that are in denial. There are some people that are bargaining with this disease. Some people are really angry and some people are really sad and some people surprisingly are accepting this and they're hunkering down and they're saying life is so simple now. I don't have to think about where to go and where to be and they're getting very Connected Online and they're doing things that they've never experienced online but we're social beings and we need to stay connected. The kids on the beach in in Miami. We would you say that. That's the denial part of things. Or do we all personally go through. Denial Stage I think that we all personally go through denial stage and these kids. They want their spring break. They've worked really hard. This is really upsetting that. They have the mobility That they want and the Salvatori experience that they want so I think at that point they just said. Hey Yolo your only Lewan like we had the same thing in Malibu last weekend. Bill with the terrible traffic that was on our highways and on our beaches it was certainly all of southern California. Decided they were on spring break? And we're coming to the beach but they were not standing sixty depart not even three three feet apart so I I do feel like. There is a certain amount of denial. That happens after denial. Do you go into anger. Or bargaining bargaining. Is the decision making that you do with yourself? That makes it okay. So if I go to the store and I'm six feet away from somebody and I'm getting three roles of Those big bulk toilet papers then. I don't have to go out for the next month. And so you're bargaining with how. How much anxiety. You have with actually going out and having hoarding behavior. Let's say where you're bargaining with. Oh I only need this much and I'll leave the rest or somebody else. Is there a timeline for this? There's not a time there's an. It's not linear either. He's you can go in and out of denial in and out of Depression in and out of anger. Can you be ages at the same time? Yes because we're not. Linear beings were were very much chaotic people. We can feel more than one feeling at a time right. Exactly yeah. The insecure feeling the uneasiness. The confusion the little bit of anger and being in the dark. Tell us about how we should be thinking about these issues well. Anger is a very in a response to anxiety and stress. Most people get angry when they feel out of control. What I think people usually is that the only thing that you have control over is your own behavior in your spawns. When you don't know what's going to happen. I call that anticipatory anxiety and the not knowing can really disrupt regulate your system into a fight or flight or freeze response But most people know it as fighter flight. The practices is to come back to the presence and censor yourself so what I mean by. That is in the present moment. What are you doing to take care of yourself? And when you're agitated or or dysregulation You're not in a state of rational Sankaran. Need some other person. Or maybe that internal voice that I found to be able to reassure an Souso. We're pack animals. We don't really survive alone very well and so sometimes it's going to a friend. Sometimes it's going to a family member Eh. It's not about telling somebody what they should do but meeting somebody where they are and comforting them in that

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