Listen: Saudi Arabia, United States And Iran discussed on John Batchelor
"Food at the White House stopped off in Baltimore to speak with me. And now our guest's in Israel. We're very pleased. We're joined by Emily Landau senior research, fellow at I n s s head of the arms control and regional security programs. Well, Emily, I got arms control for you because Saudi Arabia since last we spoke has fallen into some disfavour on Capitol Hill. I speak here. And that raises the question of Saudi Arabia's separating itself from the long standing, very careful alliance with the US on security matters, especially nuclear weapons be bold about this. Because that's the way the F T would do it is Saudi Arabia considering becoming a nuclear weapons power. Good evening to you. Hi, it's a rainy morning here in in nine nine Israel with regard to Saudi Arabia's and ambitions. Let's say in the nuclear realm. What we've been hearing. And since about twenty ten in slightly more open manner from Saudi Arabia is that they don't have an intention to develop a nuclear weapons capability. They're interested in civilian nuclear cooperation. However if Iran attains nuclear weapons. Saudi Arabia will be there right behind them. Now. Nobody knew at the time in twenty ten. Nobody knows today. What exactly that means whether Saudi Arabia seeks and indigenous capability in other words, the ability to build up the capacity to move to nuclear weapons on its own and in this regard the ability to enrich uranium which is something that they are. Demanding right now could serve that military program or whether perhaps there's some agreement that they still have with Pakistan leftover from the time when Saudi Arabia financed Pakistan's nuclear capability, and there's some deal there that that Pakistan will return the favor and provide some kind of nuclear covered the Saudi Arabia and its hour of need in any case right now Saudi Arabia is seeking nuclear cooperation in the civilian area with the United States and the dilemma for the United States right now for the Trump administration is whether to allow that nuclear cooperation without demanding that Saudi Arabia, not be allowed to work on sensitive nuclear technologies, which referred to uranium enrichment and plutonium reprocessing. But I have to add here. That the JCP LA the Iran nuclear deal has made this a challenge that much harder because the J C P O A explicitly legitimizes arena. Uranium enrichment program, so Iran, a state that is known violator of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty a state that works on nuclear capability military capability for decades. And there might even be some aspects that continue to today, we don't know for sure they were allowed to work on a enrichment capabilities under the explicit terms of the deal. They're allowed to work on advanced centrifuges that will spend the uranium and enrich it faster than the ones. They currently. Haven't used Saudi Arabia is a member in the standing of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. So to deny Saudi Arabia, the same activities that are legitimized for Iran is something that is very difficult to demand right now. Especially when Saudi Arabia says our only concern in the nuclear realm is Iran. This country a violator that worked on a military capability in secret that deceive the international community, you're letting them enrich uranium, and we are denied it's a difficult. Can we have about a minute? Go ahead very quickly. Just one of the Trump administration. Do you believe that they will concede and let the Saudi students, obviously, a relationship right now is very entangled Saudis. Don't need the US they can go to others. But the administration hasn't said much on this. Why do you believe that we have about a minute? Well, well, there are suspicions that the Trump administration might concede on this point, according to the New York Times, they're not willing to divulge any information with regard to wear the negotiation stand, which doesn't bode well for for for this issue. They might be conceding on it. I think that the United States needs to stand firm on its demand, you know, for states not to enrich uranium because it is dangerous activity, but they have a, you know, take a hard line also on Iran and not only the United States, but the entire international community. And yes, there are others out there that can work with Saudi Arabia. That might be less concerned with this issue and the United States needs to take that into consideration as well. Emily Landau is a senior research fellow at the I N S S. She is head of the arms control and regional."