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"Mcintyre's on the fan. George mcdonald. Gary Myers hanging around till four all football. I two hours. We'll get some baseball conversation here in our number three Mets and Yankees both made their way out to Vegas for the winter meetings. Metric made one big move Yankees. Have we'll talk about the two New York. Baseball teams over the next five ten fifteen minutes with our buddy from S N Y warmly, the daily news John Harper jumped on board with us here on the fan. John McDonnell, Gary, Mike, how are you buddy? Good. How you guys doing? We're doing great harp. So let's start off with your evaluation of the casino trade. And were you like a short term or you're concerned about giving those prospects long-term? Yeah. I mean, I really like it other one hand the fact that Brodie van wagon comes out and he's aggressive, and they get Edwin DS a twenty four year old clothes, and maybe the best closer baseball last year. Guy. They couldn't have got otherwise. And you get hit Beijing because you're willing to take on money. But I do think I feel feel like they didn't. But they had all the he had all the leverage steel, which she rarely get and for GM's point of view. And I feel like he didn't push that to the ultimate advantage. I think they could have got the done deal done without giving up this kid scouts really just because the Mariners are so desperate. They wanted can allow you had nowhere else to send him because he has a no trade clause. So I like it in the what hand I, you know, the horn thing you have to question to Fenway, maybe bandwagon. Hey is his judgment is a little bit clouded because he was Canoas agent. He has a lotta respect for the guy. Maybe he thinks more him than other people. Do I think don't give a couple of good years? I do think you have great offense. But I don't think he pushed that advantage to fullest in terms of the laboratory deal fair enough. Everything I've read and heard was that he was the key prospect outfielder was the key to the deal. So I don't know if they could have gotten around that. But could they have may have gotten a Mariners kick in a little bit more for salary coverage on the back end the deal? Well, that or I think may also maybe could have gotten him to include the this out, Alex Smith center fielder, which would have filled and other home it forever right hand hitting center fielder. Are they know? Yeah. Right left hand, but he would have given kind of a lagaras platoon. They're out Sarah would have given stole like forty Pacers or something last year. So that was a possibility. Yeah. Maybe more money one way or the other. But you know, that's the one thing. Like, if you're a much you want to take on as much money as as they could have or take on all the money, and then they wouldn't have probably had to give back as much in terms of prospects. So that's that's that's the issue is that, you know, if you're on the Mets, and that you feel like the fans point of view that they they're always looking to save the money rather than, you know, be more Yankee I can take on the money if it means giving up to your heart, total hypothetical is this a deal that sandy Alderson would have made. I don't think so because he just you know, I did a lot of good things there. And but he was girly conservatives did not like taking our salary and that was because he was prohibited from doing it. But at the same time, I heard from some of his people there, you know, they they they want to be creative. Don't think creatively, but they rarely gained. When you look at the Joseph may, so no, I think they'd wagon. He's out there looking at everything. And this is the deal. I nobody would have predicted just because. Canot money, but they managed to do it in a way where to me that you get the kid. I think that really is enticing because he could really. They get him and one other guy actually just now you got it back compete with anybody. Harper of people are reporting that the Mets are one of several teams that are still in the bidding for JT Muto as far as a potential trade with the Marlins go we all know, the Mets could use an upgraded catcher. They did give up a top prospect in the deal to get Conoco. And do they have the pieces to make a deal for a guy like brio Mutoko? Would it be well advised as far as you're concerned? I think yeah. I mean, I think they should do whatever they can get removed. So I if it means you're giving up Rosario, I would do it just because I think the advantage you gain within a catcher like that. Or the best catches in a game defensively. And offensively there's such a dearth of Los Angeles catching in baseball. Now that it gives you an advantage, and you could replace those Ariel. I've suggested maybe three year you get our two years. You get a guy. I like it. Glacier is a real good fielder. As a short term. You've got this kid him and has coming. If they really love who's considered one of their very top prospects. So you could do it that way. But I I just I I don't think they have what it takes as far as matching especially the dodgers. I think the dodgers want this guy real motel and they've got a young catcher. Names keyboard marines. I just wrote about it the twenty year old guy, that's really highly regarded, which would seem to be kind of thing. The Marlins want him and they got young pitching. I'm not sure they met you're gonna be able to match with the dodgers can do give up for him. If you gave it a project now five days down the road. After meetings are over would you anticipate that the Mets will have made another big deal by the time in meetings? And I know there's no real deadline to get done. Then obviously. But do you think that van wagon and comes out of this thing with another big piece? Yeah, I think he'll definitely I think they they'll sign at least one free agent during the meetings, and maybe more they, you know, he's he's he said openly that they are considering AJ Pollock who's a great fit right in center fielder. Good offensive player. Good defensive player. But he's got a history of injuries. That would give you pause, especially if you started about a four year deal pretty big for probably pretty good money because he's probably wanted to top center fielders in the game him. I, you know, they do they're definitely gonna get another reliever as well. I think Andrew Miller is is the worst again now because you have S as you're closer. Now. I'd be more inclined to take a chance with Miller an injury history as well. Because when he's right. We've seen what he can do dominates anybody. And if you get that NTSB at the back end now, you really got something. So I could see either one of those guys they go different way for reliever, maybe maybe it's accurate, and maybe even a David Robertson simply like that. But they'll get one of those and then the catching situations they can't get real motel. They're gonna they're gonna have to sign a free agent. I don't I don't think they're gonna get Ramose. He's gonna be in demand. I think it's more likely to my like Maldonado who's a good defensive catcher. Which is really really what they need. They need to have to catch it. But they need somebody who's going to take charge of that staff. I mean, even you so even the difference a guy like measure Rocco made last year. Catch. Everyone starts just because he was so he was he was so into preparing and working to gain from behind the plate, which is what they'd haven't had in recent years. So I think they'll get in the end, I think they'll get maybe two or three of those guys I think they'll get at least wondering meeting are very from a lot of baseball analysts and the like says the deal came down. Hey, if the Mets get three out of the five years of Canossa remaining years on his contract is good years. You can live with the years four and five turning out little ugly as compared to production and salary that being the case how many years out of the six year deal. Patrick Corbin guide with the nationals. Do you think? We'll be able to say, hey, those were the years the remaining years turn out to be ugly three out of six five out of ten. Yeah. I mean, you would think at least four he's not he's not that old. I just my concern with him is that I'm not sure what he is yet. You know last year he really went up is usually through the slider tremendously and change speeds with it became kind of a different pitcher and had his most dominant year now with a league just to him. Kenny do that he only had really had one big time year. I'm not sure you know, he's worth that kind of. Well, I don't really think he's worth that kind of money. I think the extra smart that's six years one forty, but you know, for the national, you know, he flats right in there. He didn't he's not even their age kind of money you behind sherzer in Strasbourg. So I guess it comes down to if you helped him win a championship. And then it was worth it. But I would think he'll kill pitch to whatever level. He can pitch to for at least four or five years. Harper healing. Who we keep hearing the Yankees distancing themselves at least through back channels. It seems from from Bryce Harper. It seems that Machado is a good fit with DD being hurt at least being out at least first half of the season base based on the Yankees history. Every time it seems that they're kind of thrown a cold or towards a big money player that they wind up they wind up signing. Would would you think that? Oh, who would you put the odds that they signed obviously, not going to sign hop brand Machado. But lay the odds on each of those guys wanting the Angie's. I'm gonna go as high as. Seventy five percent Machado. And I guess on the other end of that is about twenty twenty five percent on Bryce Harper. I just think with who fits in better. I look I think we'll Bryce Harper obviously, the left handed bat they could really use. It just seems like they're much more interested in Machado. I thought Steinbrenner Hal Steinbrenner's comments about him. You know, basically wanting to know what that was all about his, Johnny hustle. Comets comments told me that they have they have interests there. Otherwise, why would he care? So. Yeah, we'll see. I I just think if you're bringing Machado to play short for whatever for forgetting so kitty comes back, and he becomes your long-term third baseman that gives you options as far as trading and do Har, and I think I wrote about this for today an essay why that they can maybe then used to help deter make a trade for Corey kluber, which really gives you another elite starter, which is what really what you're trying to do here after they lost Corbin. So that's why I think Machado fits him in so many ways just because he would help making do her guy. You could use in the trade. I'm gonna hypothetical you wet your way. Gary three one. Machado signs? Elsewhere. He finley's whoever else he signs within the next couple of days and the Yankees are toward it in airtime him Harper says he wants to come here, and he'll come here for the type of deal that he turned down with the nationals ten years three hundred million. But he wants to come to the Yankees because his father was a huge, manifest, whatever the back story. I is that he's always had a soft spot for the Enke's would the Yankees trade Stanton, which we know he has a no trade clause for basically nothing if they just got his nine years in two hundred forty million off the off the salary cap to clear money to get Harper for what they think is a fair market deal. I think absolutely. Yeah. I think they I think even if they didn't get hurt, but they might trade Stanton. If they could not that he's gonna get his numbers for like a season. But I think the Yankees rolling. Richard prize in any known until you watch guy every day. You know, you don't really know what he's at exactly about as a hitter. And if not he he's not a guy. I don't think he's gonna be a guy is gonna hit, you know. They're really good pitching, which you're gonna see in the postseason. He's gonna get his numbers. And all that. But yeah, I would think the problem is, of course, he has the no trade. So where could you send them other than the dodgers where he would agree to go and the dodgers are taking him. So that's that's that's what complicates everything. But yeah, I think actually they would exchange after Bryce Harper with that left handed power, which they don't have a lot of lineup right now. So yeah.."