Hey, do Well. Good Right. Um, Why don't you? Uh, uh, I think we can tell your voices apart, uh, steps the girl, the taste, You guys what, you know, they don't really girl in Marios the guy. I think it's pretty obvious. So usually when we have more than one personnel, we hasn't say their name before the answer question or something, But I don't get me necessary. So, um, why don't we start with uh, what are we start with, uh, staff, Uh, and what stiff west tell us a little bit about your background, uh, as the musician, my hounded, how you guys did by the music Bug. And what made you want to, uh, start doing bands who writing songs and stuff like that. Chair. Um, I think I have been, you know, do you, You think related staff and that was very young. I um, kind of singing. I mean, as long as I can remember, I acknowledge that, um, singing songs and um, you know. A little girl I was paying along two songs on the radio and the car ended up picked up Good car when I was fifteen because I. Um, Fed started, You know, riding my own songs that I didn't have an instrument should company by myself. And I, um, I kind of got tired of trying to work with other people like in high school to learn my song. So I just cause can tarp little by little online some court. Um, and then I guess I feel like I really, um, really got more serious about music when I moved to Chapel Hill. Um, and started working with people around here. I moved here in two thousand three should go to you and see. Um, and I've been here every sense, but it probably around two thousand stuff. And I really started focusing more on music and playing with other people on the internet. Learn how to play Banja you know, just sort of expanded what I was doing. Um, wh what Tell me a little bit about your style of music because, um, you know, he got a young people seems like, you know, most of them are interested in, uh, you know, hop or uh, some kind of rock or metal or something like that. And you guys have this, Who's you know your, your passion is off is obviously this and uh, uh, uh, you like Americana, uh, uh, music, this sort of like, uh, as you describe it in your bio who this one-stop shop for, everything then paid country music matter producing description. Um, so House, did you come to that genre? Like what influence you? What did you wouldn't music? Did you liked it? They you feel like this which wanted to do. Um, well, I think a lot of what we are really interested in our songs, and there's just such a heavy tradition of really great song writing. And that's that's central to those into a lot of country music, especially, but in the Americana Can I mean they're they're really seems that everything starts and ends with great songs and all the cool like stylistic things that come with it are kinda sprinkled on top in a nice way and beer for really into that sort of approach rather than you. Yeah, mostly the song and then aesthetics kind of served the solemn in a way. Um, He'll tell what our injury that good. It was that if I'm so I go ahead. I'm just gonna say to you, like I feel like, Um, I mean own I listen to a lot of different kinds of Music. We don't like exclusively listen to country or anyone genre that, uh, and the thing that I really, uh, connect with an country music also. Um, well, they're kind of a couple of elements that I love just the I think there is this real honest. She, um, in the music that isn't always captured in and others honors may be. And then within, like all types of the country music you get, like, you know, blues and jazz and it's it's fun because like they might be one might be this country voice right? That does it saying a makes it sound like country. But within that instruments and on the arrangements can be doing something that makes that have like a different fields. So I think than sponge proposed that a new Mario, we like to experiment with that as well Like highly make it sound like the Country song and bringing other elements from things we like to use. Um, my Mario tell us a little bit about your background. Then we heard a little bit of Steph story. Uh, tell us a little bit about your background getting in the music and the Euro up your Are, you will primarily the like the EU are you doing this the lead guitar work on the record? Yeah, yeah Masud. So you're primarily to tell us about Like how you get started with a bizarre and decided to giving them music? Yeah, um, from a very, very young age, I just probably saw somebody on TV that looked cool playing playing electric. Are, You know, that sort of thing. And uh, and then yeah, from that point I knew I was into the idea of playing guitar and it wasn't until High school that it actually. Um, something happened where I was actually I'm getting lessons and my parents got me, an instrument and all that. Um, and then Yeah, all kind of felt together. And when I was graduating high school slight Krill. I guess I have to go to college for something in. Uh, I studied classical guitar. Um, and kinda got into composition and those exposed to a lot of different. Um, a lot of different kinds of music at that point that I probably wouldn't have found on my own. Um. And then just I was constantly finding new things to listen to always kind of exploring discovering new things all the time. And, um, you have just been playing and really finding new inspiration all the time. That's kind of. Been the bugs for the longest time at this point And, um, yeah, which is really, uh, branched over in the songwriting pretty fun way. I think. Um, So how did We'll take this stuff you had, uh, Steph Stewart in the boyfriends how the blue Cactus. Hey, How did you guys becomes look this? And uh, you could tell us the story because I know there's a cute story about the name of the band as well. But I tell us how like sort of came like, new in Mario together in mind and all that. Yeah, Um, so we had to agree with, um, for about forty years and uh, it was it just a string band with, um, to other friends of ours, Nick Dannenberg in Omar Luiz Lopez. Um, and with four people first of all, um, who also are full-time musicians, You don't everybody was doing on the other guys in a group were doing these at full-time and playing and different groups. Um, there's just, I mean, it's kind of logistics really schedule kids complicated and being together. Um, so Marlin I just budgets fall. I mean, we just started playing as a do of more often. Um, because we were the choose who are available for a lot of the kicks that were coming up too late one plus. Um, and I don't know exactly how he just decided if it was like, I think the things that we were writing at the time, just Kennedy, just feel more country in ways. And so it's sort of happen naturally. But, um. Yeah. I think we just you like to go shopping together than should shots and Mario had gotten. That's really fun. Sure. Um, has creed loud. It's got a lot of different, Not not as loud as some of our new or stuff, but it's got CACT. I am murdered on it and, um, Coyote howling at the moon and it gives the idea, but the cacti are not Green. Um, they're blue and we were just that is show one night and I was consigned. I them a little on stage. And then as I said, blue Cactus out loud. I like immediately realize how nice it, south it. Um, and just is, uh, has a nice sound and it looks a nice image. Um, I think is there's a lot about what are found skin and be without giving too much away. So it made sense and it was like very fortuitous. I guess that I just happen to make fun of Mario regularly. We got a lot of good, uh, material. Let me check. Mmm. So that we just sort of vitamin fault, I guess, started this band and, um, niche who was the base player in the boyfriends, um, sexually are drummer and this fans and he's the person that we've been recording with most of the time, even when we were in the boyfriends them Center recording engineering, our producer. Um, so we also worked with him on this last record with Luc as Well. You know, we're gonna come back and we're gonna talk more about the actual low. The creation of the record. This is set to come up March Uh, in a second, but I would like to go ahead. Were describing the music and we talked to evening has back on this. Go ahead and play for the audience. Uh, one of your crackdowns I believe you guys are gonna released. Its you're going with this is I never knew a heartache. You guys are planning a releasing. This was a single th that would you told me dip. Yep. Okay, Um, so guys as everybody out there in podcast land check this out. Uh, this is uh, I never knew heartache. Uh, by Blue Cactus on the loose Dini rock and roll circus.