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I'm Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown joining me as Matt Bellamy of the Hollywood reporter and Bat obviously the Emmy nominations came out this past week and my first reaction was really to admire the wealth of material that is so oh good and you know the academy. The television academy has been paddled in the past for the sort of reflexive conservative re-nominating modern family teen times not that there's anything a great series it but got to the point where it seemed crazy just keep nominating and over and over again this time there is some really fresh interesting shows and actually some formidable matchups yeah I mean I think a lot of the headlines that came out of the Emmy nominations were based on game of thrones getting a record thirty two nominations but if you look deeper there are a lot of nuance shows like fleabag getting into the comedy race killing Eve in the drama race bowl shows from phoebe waller bridge if you look. Ed Shits Creek which is a word. I don't know if we can say on the radio <hes> but it is spell with a C. H.. In two TS <hes> that's a show that has been on for a number of years and not gotten much attention but the ground swell of love for the stars Eugene Levy and Catherine O'Hara got popped T._v.. Its first emmy nominations and there's a lot of Nice little narratives like that yeah I I was late to the Shits Creek Party. Yes it is going to say that word and <hes> benched it on Netflix like so many people I was like Oh look what I found on Netflix when really pop would probably like to assassinate me for even saying that except be really can binged on Netflix and it's pretty great. I'm also really impressed by the very high impact series that ran. They're not in the same category we have the R Kelly series from lifetime in the in one category up against <hes> Leah Remedies Scientology series and weirdly comedians in cars. I mean very very very different kind of material. Anthony Bourdain also is going to be I think for a lot of people an emotional choice but that r Kelly dock as we know he's imprisoned or Kelly right now and I think a lot of credit goes not only to Jim de regardless the journalists who pursued. Him For so long but Dream Hampton and lifetime for doing that series and if you look at the authorities who arrested r Kelly they specifically cited that Docu series as being the thing that opened there is to what was going on and if I'm lifetime I'm looking at that and saying wow that should be our emmy materials because this is the best advertisement you could get for winning. An award is that there's real world impact. You might think that the H._B._O.. Series leaving nevertheless would be in the same category with the R Kelly but it's not <hes> and it is up against you know things that are so diverse in and you know again. This is golden age in many ways some of the stuff I mean minding the gap and this points to the confusion. What's a T._v.? Show what's a movie mining. The gap was an Oscar contender this now also an emmy contender. That's happened before in the last few years and it's it's confusing and in the same category you have you know Jane Fonda Series and <hes> thing about Gilda radner and the it's it's a very <hes> odd set of. Things to be competing with each other but talking about cultural impact. I think you know I don't even know if we can measure what the impact of that series was but I think it was huge yeah. The breath of the nominees is one of the reasons that H._B._O.. Oh really clobbered Netflix this year. If you remember from last year the big narrative was at after seventeen years netflix finally overtook H._B._O.. As the top nominee at the emmys this year no such luck now obviously game of thrones was a big reason and for that but even if you take out the number one nominee on both of them game of Thrones H._B._O.. And when they see us the central park five miniseries on Netflix H._B._O.. Would still be the winner this year and that might be the Swan Song. I think in the future is going to be really difficult for H._B._O.. To compete with what Netflix is doing now. We're seeing the output of H._B._O.. Increase via this new streaming service called H._B._O.. Max that was announced last week but in the short term Netflix Netflix is really focused on winning awards and they are green-lighting things with an eye on whether they can win Oscars Emmy's so for the foreseeable future. I predict the emmy champion is going to be Netflix but it's going to be a nice party this year.