Listen: Intelligence officials ask Congress not to hold threats hearings after angering Trump last year
"A year ago today. The president was so mad as he was watching. Those highlights. That sources told us. He was literally early screaming while watching people like Dan Coats. The former director of national intelligence talk about things like Iran North Korea. And the like because they were contradicting a lot of what you hear from the president publicly so now these intelligence officials have made this request thing. They don't WanNa have to testify about this publicly as you noted you can imagine why given what you were just talking about the Soleimani strike all these issues. Where you've seen this intelligence contradicting itself in recent these officials contradicting themselves in recent weeks? So while it's not the expectation take. This request is going to be granted. It hasn't been any kind of a formal request and we do still believe this report. This report that tells us the biggest threat essentially worldwide is still going to be public. Like you've seen these officials make clear is nothing they wanNA talk about publicly because essentially they are worried about angering president trump. All right CAITLIN. Thank you very much out front now. Ashu adopt a former. FBI special agent. Who knows a lot about these briefings obviously? FBI is involved in them and Republican congressman. Mike Turner Member of the House Intelligence Committee which would be holding one of those hearings hearings on the worldwide threat. Assessment Congressman is. We were talking about as you came out obviously committee has these hearings you get classified briefings behind closed doors but this is the one that the world sees the American public see it comes along with the document and you hear the reporting the top intelligence officials. Don't WanNa do this after last year when they did. You know president trump. Go back to school. It's wrong with you guys. It turned turned into a big A BIG FIASCO. Are you okay with them. Not Giving a public assessment will visit. There's a document that is the public assessment that is available for for the public and hate responding to things that are like one source or unnamed sources about what people are saying at the president might think or feel but I can tell you having served through three administration. There's a number of reasons reasons why the public portion is different than the classified portion that we receive and send sometimes many times administrations are reticent to do the public. I've actually sat through one word. Obama official in the public portion of a Russia threat assessment contradicted themselves than in the classified version because the threats are listening to and that's really the environment that they're in. It's not really. The president. United States is the audience the world is the audience our allies are listening to threats are listening and they also take from what this presentation is what they should do next and what. US policy's going to be so AIYSHA. The thing is though and I understand the point right. They've got different audiences and yet last year. And and this is our reporting. I know congressman. You always say what you just said there but this is reporting from multiple sources. It's bad at town. News organizations operate. They're saying that they don't want to do it because they're afraid of what trump will say they don't. I WANNA be belittled demeaned and humiliated after they say whatever it is. They're going to say. Is that a problem. Aisha that is a problem. Because it tells you off the bat that what they I would say would not align with what the president has been saying. Or what the president's thinking this is exactly why it makes them angry. And I think what you see. Here is basically easily an undermining of two fundamental pillars of democracy which is transparency and accountability transparency into. What do these intelligence heads think are threats threats directly from their mouths and accountability in terms of is the president responding to them effectively and for this president in particular particular? Is He telling the truth about them. So on this point okay. You got a closed door briefing on Iran. You were told that you were told. And you were reticent about it because it was classified presidents allowed to declassify hi which which he does? Sometimes there's no rhyme or reason he appeared to declassify or I don't know make I don't know all I know is he said there were four embassies. He's being targeted by Iran and his own National Security Advisor and secretary defense are unable to back that up. This this is what we're talking about. What are they going to say? Let me just play the president. And Ah play secretaries. ESPERER MR O'Brien I can reveal that I believe it would have been four embassies. I didn't see one with regard to four embassies I look. It's always difficult. Even with the exquisite intelligence that we have to know exactly what the targets are. Do you want to hear them publicly. Explain why he he said one thing and they have been unable publicly to even say he's right a couple of reasons and and I think it's not really an inconsistency one you have at the president is able to say things that they're not even if I had not correct once he says it is not in the version I have CanNot then be revealed but the second thing is is there's a number of sources of information there's even foreign intelligence sources that we receive those classified briefings at the president has at the Secretary of defense doesn't have That depending upon what the need is what the action is So the information that the president is receiving is much broader than all. The rest of us are going to be saying. They didn't contradict. They said we don't have that information. I didn't see that information which again is Does not say that. They're they're they're convict him. But I want to say one thing with what you said the chance to just to get in on that so when trump says I can reveal. I believe it would've been four embassies. And his own secretary of defense who was responsible for ordering troops to launch a drone attack back. I didn't see one with regard to pharmacies. You don't see that as a contradiction I see it as a contradiction and I think that if the secretary of defense is not seeing the same information mation that the president of the United States is that is a problem in and of itself. I also think that from people who've been in these highly sensitive meetings that that would be almost impossible that the secretary of defense sees the presidential daily briefing. They are the ones advising him on the options that are available in this this particular case where the military strike so I feel like it. Would I mean I would hope that is congressman. You would be incredibly disturbed. Well as you know. You haven't had a classified briefing and fifteen years and even the time period did you did not have access to the type of information that goes into the policy decision making or even the world threats brief that we have to hear in the Intel. Or are you saying you want an answer to this question. You're fine with it being behind closed doors or you just. You're just fine without no. I think there are certainly as utility to having the public hearing but what I was going to say to ashes. Prior statement is that the public hearing the public representation of this information is not about the president night states. This is not about challenging the president's AIDS and what he said this is about people who choose unwanted to harm and so all of our questions with respect to national security and this probably threats briefing the world threats briefing. The classified portions should be. How do we make America say okay? That's true but I should also be aren't our elected leaders responsible for telling us the truth about what threats we face before we decide where we're go to war over them with the bottom line is if they're afraid to tell the truth. Then we have a fundamental issue on these pillars of democracy. That I mentioned before if they they any themselves are afraid to come forward because what they think will you know the president will retaliate against them or any other blowback. That is that is a big problem. We're going to see what happens with The Chairman Chef and his own the world report the world threats report of course is public itself so the transparency is you have the opportunity to read it and from that you can make your own conclusion about what the administration saying and the report so that no questions from our electric present but I see your point. Yes we will. We will get the pay all"